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Topic: The Problem With Evolution?
RKISIT Joined Tue 01/08/08 Posts: 16721	Sat 01/28/12 07:55 PM Edited by RKISIT on Sat 01/28/12 07:58 PM
Why is it that so many theists have a problem with the Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection as proposed by Darwin? Why is it so hard for them to accept that after a few thousand years of development mankind began to use the brainpower granted them [by God?] to observe the natural world and develop an explanation of the origin and evolution of biological beings using reason, logic and evidence - rather than the guesswork and superstison of primitive desert-dwellers who knew far less than their descendants would? Why should a 7000(?) year old theory be held accountable to a 150 year old theory? It was forgivable of primitive Man to believe in Geocentricism, since from our perspective is does indeed appear that the heavens revolve around a static Earth. Now we know the truth about our planet's position in the cosmos - but we do not grant the theory of Geoncentricism the same respect that we do of Creationism, yet we now have far better explanations for the origins of life than those hypothesised by ancient Hebrews. So why is it that modern-day theists easily accept that our planet orbits around a star yet find it so difficult to acknowledge that humans are just another species of animal? Why believe in gravity but not evolution? Think about who you're typing about.You're typing about grown adults who believe a magic man poofed everything into existance and have no idea why their magic man did it.They believe a man lived in a whale,a snake that talked,a donkey that talk,a man who screwed his daughters after they got him drunk,a woman that was turned to salt,when the magic man got pissed he commited genocide. This magic man also put a baby in a "virgin",the baby became a minime magic man and turned water into wine and walked on water....so really think about who you're debating with.They worship this magic man and his baby,but have never seen this magic man.On top of all this all 3 Abrahamic religions were stolen from the Sumerian,Babylonian,Greek and whatever other mythos it wanted to steal the stories from.

Sin_and_Sorrow Joined Sun 01/01/12 Posts: 5757	Sat 01/28/12 07:56 PM
• "Debating Creationists on the topic of Evolution is rather like trying to play chess with a pigeon; it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory." - Scott D. Weitzenhoffer This pigeon just put all you atheists into checkmate. Is that the part when the pigeon goes back to his flock to claim his (false) victory?? Eh, you may want to prove his statement wrong.. ..or you'll be playing the part of the pigeon. :X ..just saying. >.>

MorningSong Joined Mon 02/11/08 Posts: 4505	Sat 01/28/12 07:59 PM
Sin and Sorrow wrote: One is the Father. One is the Son. One is the Holy Spirit. Only one is God Sin n Sorrow...There is only ONE GOD.... the Father ,Son ,and Holy Spirit are 3 PERSONS in ONE GOD. THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD ALMIHTY . Again....The Father,Son,and Holy Spirit are NOT three Gods...but 3 PERSONS IN ONE GOD(and no,the bible does NOT teach they are 3 Gods...some on here are just misinterpreting the bible ) The bible teaches there is only One God Almighty.

Sin_and_Sorrow Joined Sun 01/01/12 Posts: 5757	Sat 01/28/12 08:00 PM
Why is it that so many theists have a problem with the Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection as proposed by Darwin? Why is it so hard for them to accept that after a few thousand years of development mankind began to use the brainpower granted them [by God?] to observe the natural world and develop an explanation of the origin and evolution of biological beings using reason, logic and evidence - rather than the guesswork and superstison of primitive desert-dwellers who knew far less than their descendants would? Why should a 7000(?) year old theory be held accountable to a 150 year old theory? It was forgivable of primitive Man to believe in Geocentricism, since from our perspective is does indeed appear that the heavens revolve around a static Earth. Now we know the truth about our planet's position in the cosmos - but we do not grant the theory of Geoncentricism the same respect that we do of Creationism, yet we now have far better explanations for the origins of life than those hypothesised by ancient Hebrews. So why is it that modern-day theists easily accept that our planet orbits around a star yet find it so difficult to acknowledge that humans are just another species of animal? Why believe in gravity but not evolution? Think about who you're typing about.You're typing about grown adults who believe a magic man poofed everything into existance and have no idea why their magic man did it.They believe a man lived in a whale,a snake that talked,a donkey that talk,a man who screwed his daighters after they got him drunk,a woman that was turned to salt,when the magic man got pissed he commited genocide. This magic man also put a baby in a "virgin",the baby became a minime magic man and turned water into wine and walked on water....so really think about who you're debating with.They worship this magic man and his baby,but have never seen this magic man.On top of all this all 3 Abrahamic religions were stolen from the Sumerian,Babylonian,Greek and whatever other mythos it wanted to steal the stories from. lol

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sat 01/28/12 08:00 PM
• "Debating Creationists on the topic of Evolution is rather like trying to play chess with a pigeon; it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory." - Scott D. Weitzenhoffer This pigeon just put all you atheists into checkmate. still waiting on one of you pigeons to explain why the bible makes reference that God have hands and legs .... ..weren't you the one just preaching to me about we were made in His image? If he didn't have either.. neither would we. jeez dude... the point is why would God need them

Sin_and_Sorrow Joined Sun 01/01/12 Posts: 5757	Sat 01/28/12 08:01 PM
Sin and Sorrow wrote: One is the Father. One is the Son. One is the Holy Spirit. Only one is God Sin n Sorrow...There is only ONE GOD.... the Father ,Son ,and Holy Spirit are 3 PERSONS in ONE GOD. THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD ALMIHTY . Again....The Father,Son,and Holy Spirit are NOT three Gods...but 3 PERSONS IN ONE GOD(and no,the bible does NOT teach they are 3 Gods...some on here are just misinterpreting the bible ) The bible teaches there is only One God Almighty. ..Meh, basically what I meant.. Not a three-headed God..

Dragoness Joined Wed 10/17/07 Posts: 23320	Sat 01/28/12 08:01 PM Edited by Dragoness on Sat 01/28/12 08:03 PM
• "Debating Creationists on the topic of Evolution is rather like trying to play chess with a pigeon; it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory." - Scott D. Weitzenhoffer This pigeon just put all you atheists into checkmate. Is that the part when the pigeon goes back to his flock to claim his (false) victory?? Eh, you may want to prove his statement wrong.. ..or you'll be playing the part of the pigeon. :X ..just saying. >.> I can't be the pigeon, I am not a creationist. But it sure does seem to fit that part of the statement. Going back to the flock claiming false victory... But we are used to it from some posters anyway. That is how it goes.

Dragoness Joined Wed 10/17/07 Posts: 23320	Sat 01/28/12 08:03 PM
Why is it that so many theists have a problem with the Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection as proposed by Darwin? Why is it so hard for them to accept that after a few thousand years of development mankind began to use the brainpower granted them [by God?] to observe the natural world and develop an explanation of the origin and evolution of biological beings using reason, logic and evidence - rather than the guesswork and superstison of primitive desert-dwellers who knew far less than their descendants would? Why should a 7000(?) year old theory be held accountable to a 150 year old theory? It was forgivable of primitive Man to believe in Geocentricism, since from our perspective is does indeed appear that the heavens revolve around a static Earth. Now we know the truth about our planet's position in the cosmos - but we do not grant the theory of Geoncentricism the same respect that we do of Creationism, yet we now have far better explanations for the origins of life than those hypothesised by ancient Hebrews. So why is it that modern-day theists easily accept that our planet orbits around a star yet find it so difficult to acknowledge that humans are just another species of animal? Why believe in gravity but not evolution? Think about who you're typing about.You're typing about grown adults who believe a magic man poofed everything into existance and have no idea why their magic man did it.They believe a man lived in a whale,a snake that talked,a donkey that talk,a man who screwed his daughters after they got him drunk,a woman that was turned to salt,when the magic man got pissed he commited genocide. This magic man also put a baby in a "virgin",the baby became a minime magic man and turned water into wine and walked on water....so really think about who you're debating with.They worship this magic man and his baby,but have never seen this magic man.On top of all this all 3 Abrahamic religions were stolen from the Sumerian,Babylonian,Greek and whatever other mythos it wanted to steal the stories from.

Sin_and_Sorrow Joined Sun 01/01/12 Posts: 5757	Sat 01/28/12 08:04 PM
• "Debating Creationists on the topic of Evolution is rather like trying to play chess with a pigeon; it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory." - Scott D. Weitzenhoffer This pigeon just put all you atheists into checkmate. still waiting on one of you pigeons to explain why the bible makes reference that God have hands and legs .... ..weren't you the one just preaching to me about we were made in His image? If he didn't have either.. neither would we. jeez dude... the point is why would God need them ..and what in the holy parrot bay would that even matter? So, he has arms.. so he has legs. What of it? If he was a puff of smoke, then you'd be questioning why he doesn't have arm or legs..

Dragoness Joined Wed 10/17/07 Posts: 23320	Sat 01/28/12 08:06 PM
Man created some gods in his image.

Sin_and_Sorrow Joined Sun 01/01/12 Posts: 5757	Sat 01/28/12 08:09 PM
Man created some gods in his image. Oh, no, this is Funches. He takes the religious side, the Atheist's side and the agnostic side. Somehow you have to appease all his personalities at once.

MorningSong Joined Mon 02/11/08 Posts: 4505	Sat 01/28/12 08:14 PM
I figured you did.....but just wanted to be sure... some on this forum have been exposed to incorrect teaching in the past ...hence the reason for some misinterpretation of scriptures that might take place on here. But hopefully,we are all learning and growing on here.... Amen.

MorningSong Joined Mon 02/11/08 Posts: 4505	Sat 01/28/12 08:25 PM Edited by MorningSong on Sat 01/28/12 08:30 PM
Man created some gods in his image. Oh, no, this is Funches. He takes the religious side, the Atheist's side and the agnostic side. Somehow you have to appease all his personalities at once. No..that quote was not made by Funches. But Funches does have a very brilliant mind....and likes to look at all different angles... But also, he be yankin yo chain.....

Sin_and_Sorrow Joined Sun 01/01/12 Posts: 5757	Sat 01/28/12 08:28 PM
Man created some gods in his image. Oh, no, this is Funches. He takes the religious side, the Atheist's side and the agnostic side. Somehow you have to appease all his personalities at once. Funches just has a very brilliant mind....and likes to look at all different angles... But also, he be yankin yo chain..... ...lol. Third most hilarious thing I've ever heard in my entire life..

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sat 01/28/12 08:29 PM
• "Debating Creationists on the topic of Evolution is rather like trying to play chess with a pigeon; it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory." - Scott D. Weitzenhoffer This pigeon just put all you atheists into checkmate. still waiting on one of you pigeons to explain why the bible makes reference that God have hands and legs .... ..weren't you the one just preaching to me about we were made in His image? If he didn't have either.. neither would we. jeez dude... the point is why would God need them ..and what in the holy parrot bay would that even matter? So, he has arms.. so he has legs. What of it? If he was a puff of smoke, then you'd be questioning why he doesn't have arm or legs.. I asked why would he need them...the thread is about evolution...so if you can't comprehend why I asked that question...then the debate may be beyond your comprehension

Sin_and_Sorrow Joined Sun 01/01/12 Posts: 5757	Sat 01/28/12 08:31 PM
• "Debating Creationists on the topic of Evolution is rather like trying to play chess with a pigeon; it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory." - Scott D. Weitzenhoffer This pigeon just put all you atheists into checkmate. still waiting on one of you pigeons to explain why the bible makes reference that God have hands and legs .... ..weren't you the one just preaching to me about we were made in His image? If he didn't have either.. neither would we. jeez dude... the point is why would God need them ..and what in the holy parrot bay would that even matter? So, he has arms.. so he has legs. What of it? If he was a puff of smoke, then you'd be questioning why he doesn't have arm or legs.. I asked why would he need them...the thread is about evolution...so if you can't comprehend why I asked that question...then the debate may be beyond your comprehension ..and who said God evolved the same as we did? If something's beyond my comprehension, I don't get involved, I merely inquire. After all, my name ain't Funches.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sat 01/28/12 08:35 PM
..and who said God evolved the same as we did? that point is that you are admitting that God evolved

Sin_and_Sorrow Joined Sun 01/01/12 Posts: 5757	Sat 01/28/12 08:41 PM
..and who said God evolved the same as we did? that point is that you are admitting that God evolved Why? Cause I'm just agreeing with you and saying he did? Simply because I said, 'the same as we did'.. that means that suddenly out of nowhere, I'm agreeing that he evolved? Wow.. Again, the way you pick words to go strict with the meaning of while ignoring others.. is impressive.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sat 01/28/12 08:48 PM
..and who said God evolved the same as we did? that point is that you are admitting that God evolved Why? Cause I'm just agreeing with you and saying he did? Simply because I said, 'the same as we did'.. that means that suddenly out of nowhere, I'm agreeing that he evolved? Wow.. Again, the way you pick words to go strict with the meaning of while ignoring others.. is impressive. sorry... but you suggested that God evolved...either take responsibility for what you post or think twice before you post it....also you can opt to use the edit button

Sin_and_Sorrow Joined Sun 01/01/12 Posts: 5757	Sat 01/28/12 08:51 PM
..and who said God evolved the same as we did? that point is that you are admitting that God evolved Why? Cause I'm just agreeing with you and saying he did? Simply because I said, 'the same as we did'.. that means that suddenly out of nowhere, I'm agreeing that he evolved? Wow.. Again, the way you pick words to go strict with the meaning of while ignoring others.. is impressive. sorry... but you suggested that God evolved...either take responsibility for what you post or think twice before you post it....also you can opt to use the edit button I didn't suggest chit. You did, I just didn't argue it. ..and if you notice, I don't use edit much. That's your deal, not me.