Topic: Sen. Rand Paul detained by TSA for standing up for his right
msharmony's photo
Mon 01/23/12 07:30 PM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 01/23/12 07:30 PM
noone has the right to fly, if its a right you arent paying for it

if you do PAY for it, and it is a service, there are usually some guidelines or requirements, just like I can PAY for a ticket to a movie, but I wont be permitted to ENTER With recording devices,,,

if you dont get the service you paid for, because of refusal to cooperate with whatever was AGREED to in the contract you sign,, its your own responsibility,,,

if its not explicit in a contract, there is room for arbitration about whether the money is due to be returned,,,

heavenlyboy34's photo
Mon 01/23/12 07:39 PM





Rand Paul should be removed from the Senate. Thinking he is above the law and trying to break the law. He is a a$$hat just like his dad.

Not when the laws invade a citizens rights and privileges. I don't like being touched at all or my space invaded by another, unless I give express permission. I think this comes from being abused. I wouldn't submit to it either, nor will I ever.


Rights don't apply here because nobody has a RIGHT to fly, but it is invasive and congress made sure to include in this bill/law that they are not to be subjected to TSA at airports, they bypass them and get right on the plane.

It's true that noone has a right to fly. However, the ticket holder has a right to the service he's paid for.


True, and if he/she goes through the dog and pony show (TSA)bucking the system they will get what they paid for.

True. It's unfortunate the TSA was ever created in the first place. It's one of the numerous unnecessary, unconstitutional, irrational government agencies that needs to be abolished.

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Mon 01/23/12 08:49 PM






Rand Paul should be removed from the Senate. Thinking he is above the law and trying to break the law. He is a a$$hat just like his dad.

Not when the laws invade a citizens rights and privileges. I don't like being touched at all or my space invaded by another, unless I give express permission. I think this comes from being abused. I wouldn't submit to it either, nor will I ever.


Rights don't apply here because nobody has a RIGHT to fly, but it is invasive and congress made sure to include in this bill/law that they are not to be subjected to TSA at airports, they bypass them and get right on the plane.

It's true that noone has a right to fly. However, the ticket holder has a right to the service he's paid for.


True, and if he/she goes through the dog and pony show (TSA)bucking the system they will get what they paid for.

True. It's unfortunate the TSA was ever created in the first place. It's one of the numerous unnecessary, unconstitutional, irrational government agencies that needs to be abolished.


*Should have said without bucking the system

Seakolony's photo
Mon 01/23/12 09:00 PM
Edited by Seakolony on Mon 01/23/12 09:01 PM



Rand Paul should be removed from the Senate. Thinking he is above the law and trying to break the law. He is a a$$hat just like his dad.

Not when the laws invade a citizens rights and privileges. I don't like being touched at all or my space invaded by another, unless I give express permission. I think this comes from being abused. I wouldn't submit to it either, nor will I ever.
drinker

Guess that's why I don't fly anymore. It became too invasive.

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Mon 01/23/12 09:46 PM
Not flying would be a great way to protest the bull crap. I never liked flying and now I will never fly again. Airports creep me out these days.

Especially the Denver airport. That is one very creepy place.

Lpdon's photo
Mon 01/23/12 09:50 PM





Our country would be a better place if all of our senators were as principled as Ron and Rand Paul are.


whoa
LOL......yes, principles.....as opposed to an ethic committee and fines..........lol Lpdon, you'll never win an argument trying to claim RP has no principles.


I didn't say he didn't have principles, I said he's a lunatic.
Prove it......or else it's just your opinion, not factual.


Your right, it is my opinion and the opinion of MANY people.

Lpdon's photo
Mon 01/23/12 09:52 PM


Rand Paul should be removed from the Senate. Thinking he is above the law and trying to break the law. He is a a$$hat just like his dad.

Not when the laws invade a citizens rights and privileges. I don't like being touched at all or my space invaded by another, unless I give express permission. I think this comes from being abused. I wouldn't submit to it either, nor will I ever.


I've beenabused as well and I have no problem being searched to get on a plane or go in a business. It gives me peace of mind actually knowing I am safer for it.

Lpdon's photo
Mon 01/23/12 09:53 PM




Rand Paul should be removed from the Senate. Thinking he is above the law and trying to break the law. He is a a$$hat just like his dad.

Not when the laws invade a citizens rights and privileges. I don't like being touched at all or my space invaded by another, unless I give express permission. I think this comes from being abused. I wouldn't submit to it either, nor will I ever.


Rights don't apply here because nobody has a RIGHT to fly, but it is invasive and congress made sure to include in this bill/law that they are not to be subjected to TSA at airports, they bypass them and get right on the plane.

It's true that noone has a right to fly. However, the ticket holder has a right to the service he's paid for.


Only if he abides by the terms and conditions and airline and security regulations.

Kleisto's photo
Tue 01/24/12 04:53 AM
Edited by Kleisto on Tue 01/24/12 04:54 AM



Rand Paul should be removed from the Senate. Thinking he is above the law and trying to break the law. He is a a$$hat just like his dad.

Not when the laws invade a citizens rights and privileges. I don't like being touched at all or my space invaded by another, unless I give express permission. I think this comes from being abused. I wouldn't submit to it either, nor will I ever.


I've beenabused as well and I have no problem being searched to get on a plane or go in a business. It gives me peace of mind actually knowing I am safer for it.


You really don't have any idea, NONE of this is about safety. Never was, nor will it ever be. That's just the story they push on us to make us agree to their demands.

If they truly gave two ***** about safety why do repeat events still happen? Some safety checkers they are, a guy can board a plane with a man in a suit accompanying him, and no valid boarding pass just fine, but don't worry, they're protecting you from people who dare to bring cupcakes on board.

Wake the hell up.

msharmony's photo
Tue 01/24/12 07:05 AM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 01/24/12 07:05 AM
IF police really care, why does crime still happen?

IF doctors really care, why do people still get sick and die?

If teachers really care, why are students still graduating sub par?

If the media really cares, why dont they tell us about every event that happens at every moment at every place in the world?

IF they care about our safety, why do 'events' still happen?

ANSWER: nothing is absolute or perfect, and life happens,,,,

check reality and balance, leave tunnelvision at the door,,,,

Seakolony's photo
Tue 01/24/12 07:08 AM
I have a boat and vehicle.....I can go anywhere I want.

msharmony's photo
Tue 01/24/12 07:17 AM

I have a boat and vehicle.....I can go anywhere I want.




that works too


for those who dont wish to be searched, UNLESS< you are going to another country where customs is likely to do the same thing,,,,

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 01/24/12 07:26 AM



Rand Paul should be removed from the Senate. Thinking he is above the law and trying to break the law. He is a a$$hat just like his dad.

Not when the laws invade a citizens rights and privileges. I don't like being touched at all or my space invaded by another, unless I give express permission. I think this comes from being abused. I wouldn't submit to it either, nor will I ever.


Rights don't apply here because nobody has a RIGHT to fly, but it is invasive and congress made sure to include in this bill/law that they are not to be subjected to TSA at airports, they bypass them and get right on the plane.
Maybe so the People wouldn't find out that they have no Ball$!laugh

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Tue 01/24/12 07:38 AM

..seems to me he just has an over inflated ego..if the rest of us have to go through the routine so can he..just another one in the government who thinks he's above it all..tuff chit for him..it's

about time someone in the government is made to realize he's no better than anyone else,and if he doesn't like it ..who cares ..get in line buddy and be thankful they didn't ask you to bend over and cough..:laughing:

..i realize there are those who don't agree with these routines but they're probably the same ones who would raise a ruckus if a plane was to get blown up,they would be wanting to know why more wasn't being done to insure their safety..well this is more..welcome to the world of terrorism..smokin

Seakolony's photo
Tue 01/24/12 07:41 AM


I have a boat and vehicle.....I can go anywhere I want.




that works too


for those who dont wish to be searched, UNLESS< you are going to another country where customs is likely to do the same thing,,,,

They don't always search boats, depends on the port you access. Alot of, the smaller Islands don't.

Ladylid2012's photo
Tue 01/24/12 07:53 AM

Rand Paul should be removed from the Senate. Thinking he is above the law and trying to break the law. He is a a$$hat just like his dad.


Of all the senators and the crap their pulling.. your worried about this guy.

Unbelievable!!

He isn't breaking any law, he is objecting to an unjust law.
The apple doesn't fall far from the tree and we should be thankful there are some politicians who still want to preserve our freedoms.

Those who wish to sit back and justify your rights being taken away and buy into the terrorism game by living in fear, can just do so, I suppose. The rest of us will be out there fighting for you to.

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Tue 01/24/12 09:56 AM


..seems to me he just has an over inflated ego..if the rest of us have to go through the routine so can he..just another one in the government who thinks he's above it all..tuff chit for him..it's


No, actually, you have it backwards. The wealthy elite senators who think they are above the rest of us charter their own jets. Paul is flying on a commercial plane just like the rest of us.

You don't have to be a rich senator to refuse to be searched. Many people have refused the TSA scan since it was introduced. But when a senator stands up for freedom, the message is a bit more powerful: even those who help craft the laws feel that the TSA is out of line.


well this is more..welcome to the world of terrorism..smokin


Welcome to the world where terrorist threats are overblown, and we are all encouraged to live in fear of terrorism.


boredinaz06's photo
Tue 01/24/12 10:09 AM



Rand Paul should be removed from the Senate. Thinking he is above the law and trying to break the law. He is a a$$hat just like his dad.

Not when the laws invade a citizens rights and privileges. I don't like being touched at all or my space invaded by another, unless I give express permission. I think this comes from being abused. I wouldn't submit to it either, nor will I ever.


I've beenabused as well and I have no problem being searched to get on a plane or go in a business. It gives me peace of mind actually knowing I am safer for it.


So your one of the numb skulls willing to give up liberties for a false feeling of being safe. No wonder you hate Ron Paul!

msharmony's photo
Tue 01/24/12 09:38 PM




Rand Paul should be removed from the Senate. Thinking he is above the law and trying to break the law. He is a a$$hat just like his dad.

Not when the laws invade a citizens rights and privileges. I don't like being touched at all or my space invaded by another, unless I give express permission. I think this comes from being abused. I wouldn't submit to it either, nor will I ever.


I've beenabused as well and I have no problem being searched to get on a plane or go in a business. It gives me peace of mind actually knowing I am safer for it.


So your one of the numb skulls willing to give up liberties for a false feeling of being safe. No wonder you hate Ron Paul!



liberty: the quality or state of being free:


when you pay for a service or product, you are no longer in a realm that has to do with your 'freedoms'

and therefore no longer relevant to ..'liberty'

Seakolony's photo
Wed 01/25/12 04:01 AM





Rand Paul should be removed from the Senate. Thinking he is above the law and trying to break the law. He is a a$$hat just like his dad.

Not when the laws invade a citizens rights and privileges. I don't like being touched at all or my space invaded by another, unless I give express permission. I think this comes from being abused. I wouldn't submit to it either, nor will I ever.


I've beenabused as well and I have no problem being searched to get on a plane or go in a business. It gives me peace of mind actually knowing I am safer for it.


So your one of the numb skulls willing to give up liberties for a false feeling of being safe. No wonder you hate Ron Paul!



liberty: the quality or state of being free:


when you pay for a service or product, you are no longer in a realm that has to do with your 'freedoms'

and therefore no longer relevant to ..'liberty'


That's just ridiculous nonsense.......Considering goods and services never connected to civil liberties and my right not to be molested by an agent sticking their hands in my clothing like I were a common criminal in a prison search.....or someone subjecting my self for an in person or conjugal visit to a prisoner....