Dunno.
Mohammed loves it.
Death to the infidel!

ME?? That's just genetic English, German, Scottish and Native American Genetics. American MUTT.

I thought you were a Christian , not a Muslim...
huh, learn something new everyday

I'm kinda' partial to her.

..that's mild in comparison to what I
would've done.

I saw that war movie..

"Shut up before I rip off your head and pi** in your skull, dirtbag!"

They were marines.

So, I believe it totally falls in line.

Just wish I could remember what movie....

Ring any bells?

Yeah....
Thank you. :)

the Dork on the right is shouldering his Rifle on the wrong side!

Um? Just the one in the front? Or do you mean the whole row?

I was under the impression if it's a split line, you carry the opposite shoulder as the CO who walks the center. i.e., away from him?

As you see, most vets feel the same as I do. There are bad elements in all "groups" and while it casts a reflection on the whole, does not represent it!

This same logic applies for condemning the attacks on nations, resentments of its people, for the actions of a few within its confines.... radical thinking and actions are NOT the answer!

http://news.yahoo.com/outrage-video-marines-urinating-taliban-corpses-veterans-view-055500933.html

Outrage at Video of Marines Urinating on Taliban Corpses: A Veteran's View
By ALEX LEMONS | Time.com – 10 hrs ago

Alex Lemons, a former Marine sergeant who deployed to Iraq three times -- including once as scout sniper -- reflects on the video of four Marines urinating on the corpses of three dead Taliban in Afghanistan:

This is all very painful to me on so many different levels. Back in 2004 one of my fellow snipers shot someone in a mosque in Fallujah. You will probably remember it getting on TV. It was very confusing. I have tried stopping things like this before or I've been a coward and let them happen. (See a graphic on storming Fallujah.)

In my eyes, there are several discomforting or significant things about this event:

-- If you aren't surprised and disgusted by this as a combatant, veteran or as a civilian whose country has been at war for a decade, then maybe you need to take a look in the mirror. Have you become this callous? (See pictures of the U.S. Marines' offensive in Afghanistan.)

-- I'd like to know how many tours those grunts have been on. Do we know what condition they are in mentally? Are any on medications?

-- This happened a lot in Fallujah II 2004 and I have a couple explanations. There were a lot of kids who imitated things they saw or read in Vietnam War films or literature. You always look back on the last war to explain your own.

Sometimes, Marines needed to take pictures and laugh about the death swirling around them because if they took it seriously and grieved then they would not be able to function and continue the fight.

Sometimes, Marines were simply brutal and took trophy photos or pissed or defecated on bodies because it actually felt good after you had been fighting someone for a hour or a day.

Maybe it was also the kind of fighting, insurgency, that produced experiences like this. You fight ghosts (IEDs, booby traps, snipers, potshots, loudspeaker recordings) and when you finally get one enemy grunt who isn't even in a uniform you choose to take out all the frustrations of fighting an invisible enemy on a lifeless but symbolic corpse. (See pictures of Afghanistan's dangerous Korengal Valley.)

-- Events like this have the power of a stone thrown into a calm lake. The circumstances and people that created the rippling effects are irrelevant. We don't know who the dead men are, if they had weapons or if they were simply pushing that wheelbarrow around. It's too late to ask those questions outside of a tribunal.

Anyone looking at the United States presence is going to hold this up as a symbol for all our actions past, present and future. That might sound like too high of a standard to measure ourselves against, but purportedly this is the principle we stand for and fight on.

-- War is not a moral agent. "War is hell, **** happens and trophies get taken," is a copout from an irresponsible person. War doesn't make anyone do anything because it is not a living thing.

People make war and they make choices in war. Most of these choices are made along the lines of rules of engagement, other war conventions, and training.

The Marine Corps doesn't teach anyone to do this.

Choices were made and they were not good ones. This is what maintains our moral high ground. It doesn't matter if the Taliban cut heads off and videotape them.The whole point, as I was told since 2001, was not to become like them, or to be comparable to them.

Thanks for posting that S_Soul Man...
Covers all the replies in here.

My father was a Marine, I've dated Marines,
I have friends who are Marines...
not ONE of those I know feel this is acceptable
and that these boys are just more war victims.

Really, the only "oh well, way is hell" attitude
I've seen about it is here...

It wouldn't be fair to these soldiers to NOT
point out the error of their ways..so to speak.
Part of their own healing from the damage of war is
to understand WHAT was wrong about what they did.
I'll add, I don't want to see any of them in jail though.

peace

I suppose if all our troops did was unrinate on a few dead bodies that would be a better deal than Iraq got.


how the Americans, beginning in 1991, bombed for 12 years, with one dubious excuse or another; then invaded, then occupied, overthrew the government, tortured without inhibition, killed wantonly, ... how the people of that unhappy land lost everything — their homes, their schools, their electricity, their clean water, their environment, their neighborhoods, their mosques, their archaeology, their jobs, their careers, their professionals, their state-run enterprises, their physical health, their mental health, their health care, their welfare state, their women's rights, their religious tolerance, their safety, their security, their children, their parents, their past, their present, their future, their lives ... More than half the population either dead, wounded, traumatized, in prison, internally displaced, or in foreign exile ... The air, soil, water, blood, and genes drenched with depleted uranium ... the most awful birth defects ... unexploded cluster bombs lying anywhere in wait for children to pick them up ... a river of blood running alongside the Euphrates and Tigris ... through a country that may never be put back together again …
The facts set forth are simply that: facts

http://powerofnarrative.blogspot.com/2012/01/varieties-of-pissing.html

Allen West couldn't have expressed my views better: “I have sat back and assessed the incident with the video of our Marines urinating on Taliban corpses. I do not recall any self-righteous indignation when our Delta snipers Shugart and Gordon had their bodies dragged through Mogadishu. Neither do I recall media outrage and condemnation of our Blackwater security contractors being killed, their bodies burned, and hung from a bridge in Fallujah. “All these over-emotional pundits and armchair quarterbacks need to chill. Does anyone remember the two Soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division who were beheaded and gutted in Iraq? “The Marines were wrong. Give them a maximum punishment under field grade level Article 15 (non-judicial punishment), place a General Officer level letter of reprimand in their personnel file, and have them in full dress uniform stand before their Battalion, each personally apologize to God, Country, and Corps videotaped and conclude by singing the full US Marine Corps Hymn without a teleprompter.

Reasonable

Well what would you do if hired mercenaries invaded america for trumped up reasones? These horrors are americas own makeing no one is comeing to this country and destroying our homes and families because they
"suspect" we may have WMDS lets not forget eh?

Mercenaries used to be considered a lower form of human life back when america had some morality.

Families were destroyed on 9/11.

Because we go to them first!

The story goes something like 22 saudis were involved, sounds like we hit the wrong country if you buy that 911 fairy tale.

If you do it was a criminal act by a group of criminals who should have been brought to justice. It was not an act of war by any nation or group of nations. It simply was the excuse the banksters needed to loot our treasury and enslave most of america to poverty and ignorance.

Mission accomplished

http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2012/01/12/americans-cheered-gen-patton-when-he-urinated-on-the-enemy/?