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Topic: origin of left and right
lilott's photo
Wed 01/11/12 07:15 AM
I often wondered why it is that Conservatives are called right and Liberals are called left.

By chance I stumbled across this verse in the Bible.

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.

Ecclesiastes 10:2 (NIV)

Thus sayeth the lord...Amen

Can't get any simpler than that.

Optomistic69's photo
Wed 01/11/12 07:23 AM
Here is another view....drinker





msharmony's photo
Wed 01/11/12 07:27 AM
Edited by msharmony on Wed 01/11/12 07:30 AM
both interesting perspectives

its why I find political labels basically useless,,,


although, I think strictly in extremes (which is oppositional to my support of balance in life),,,,

life with NO Rules where everyone does what they feel

or


life with rigid rules where people do only whats got no chance of harming others


ID choose the latter, Id feel alot safer

but I know others would gladly be less safe to do whatever they felt whenever they felt..

no photo
Wed 01/11/12 07:36 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V6zBSvD-Hk&feature=g-all-c&context=G22b0c37FAAAAAAAADAA



Optomistic69's photo
Wed 01/11/12 07:38 AM
Edited by Optomistic69 on Wed 01/11/12 07:41 AM

both interesting perspectives

its why I find political labels basically useless,,,


I was just striking a balance to the bible thingy there.

Yes I agree with you regarding the political labels...drinker

America sure is a melting pot.

There are little or no differences between political parties these days.

If we all agree that Left and Right is outdated and instead concentrate on Whats Right and whats wrong the sooner the world can be a better place.

Health Care....for all

Housing..we are buldozing brand new housing in Ireland..only three years ago we couldn't build fast enough..false economy

Food... we can feed the world no problem

Clothing...we are in the throw-away era.

We all know it can be done...


Lets do it....drinker drinker drinker




Conrad_73's photo
Wed 01/11/12 07:41 AM


both interesting perspectives

its why I find political labels basically useless,,,


I was just striking a balance to the bible thingy there.

Yes I agree with you regarding the political labels...drinker

America sure is a melting pot.

There are little or no differences between political parties these days.

If we all agree that Left and Right is outdated and instead concentrate on Whats Right and whats wrong the sooner the world can be a better place.

Health....for all

Housing..we are buldozing brand new housing in Ireland..only three years ago we couldn't build fast enough..false economy

Food... we can feed the world no problem

Clothing...we are in the throw-away era.

We all know it can be done...


Lets do it....drinker drinker drinker




Opto is treating!!!!!!!!!!!!!!bigsmile

msharmony's photo
Wed 01/11/12 07:44 AM


both interesting perspectives

its why I find political labels basically useless,,,


I was just striking a balance to the bible thingy there.

Yes I agree with you regarding the political labels...drinker

America sure is a melting pot.

There are little or no differences between political parties these days.

If we all agree that Left and Right is outdated and instead concentrate on Whats Right and whats wrong the sooner the world can be a better place.

Health Care....for all

Housing..we are buldozing brand new housing in Ireland..only three years ago we couldn't build fast enough..false economy

Food... we can feed the world no problem

Clothing...we are in the throw-away era.

We all know it can be done...


Lets do it....drinker drinker drinker







flowerforyou drinker drinker

Optomistic69's photo
Wed 01/11/12 07:47 AM




flowerforyou drinker drinker


We know it makes sense...drinker

Now let us try and lead the misguided to a better world...drinker

Optomistic69's photo
Wed 01/11/12 07:47 AM




flowerforyou drinker drinker


We know it makes sense...drinker

Now let us try and lead the misguided to a better world...drinker

InvictusV's photo
Wed 01/11/12 07:54 AM


both interesting perspectives

its why I find political labels basically useless,,,


I was just striking a balance to the bible thingy there.

Yes I agree with you regarding the political labels...drinker

America sure is a melting pot.

There are little or no differences between political parties these days.

If we all agree that Left and Right is outdated and instead concentrate on Whats Right and whats wrong the sooner the world can be a better place.

Health Care....for all

Housing..we are buldozing brand new housing in Ireland..only three years ago we couldn't build fast enough..false economy

Food... we can feed the world no problem

Clothing...we are in the throw-away era.

We all know it can be done...


Lets do it....drinker drinker drinker






You couldn't have better illustrated the differences between conservatives and liberals any better than this..

Good Job..

Optomistic69's photo
Wed 01/11/12 08:14 AM
I am looking out my front window and I see Garages...one of which I rent for £5 per week

There are millions of people in the world that would love to have one of those Garages as a place to live in.

Can we honestly say that we are an enlightened people....??????


InvictusV's photo
Wed 01/11/12 09:11 AM

I am looking out my front window and I see Garages...one of which I rent for £5 per week

There are millions of people in the world that would love to have one of those Garages as a place to live in.

Can we honestly say that we are an enlightened people....??????




This is the question..

Do we give people houses or do we give people the tools to build their own houses?


Optomistic69's photo
Wed 01/11/12 09:56 AM


I am looking out my front window and I see Garages...one of which I rent for £5 per week

There are millions of people in the world that would love to have one of those Garages as a place to live in.

Can we honestly say that we are an enlightened people....??????




This is the question..

Do we give people houses or do we give people the tools to build their own houses?





I asked a Question in my last post and you answer with a Question.

Apart from that....Who are the [we]in your Question?

Do we give people houses or do we give people the tools to build their own houses?


When I say we I mean all the people on the planet.

You are implying that your we have control over people






no photo
Wed 01/11/12 10:13 AM
Left, Right, and Other States of Insanity

I am not quite sure what the meaning of “Conservative” and or “Liberal” is or what it means to different people. I am quite sure it is not so cut and dried as one might think. But below are my over all impressions of what people think they are.

If I had to describe myself, with either one of these labels… I would have to say I was a liberal, although I don’t fit my own sterio-type description below, but that is just in fun anyway.Yet I am sure that part of me is conservative. I don’t know what part that is, but I am sure there is something conservative about me… oh yeh, I don’t get welfare checks or food stamps. Too damn much paperwork involved. I don’t know if that is conservative or just lazy, which might be considered liberal. Its so confusing.

Conservatives:

Your average run-of-the-mill idea of conservatives tend to be thought of as white, republican, Christian, and usually Protestant.

*they are hunters, warriors,and industry leaders,

*They send their sons to war,

*they believe what their president tells them,

*they are anti-abortion, (anti-choice,)

*they are for the death penalty

*they preach “family values” and “patriotism.”

*they would like to plant the ten commandments on the courthouse lawn

*they want to pray to Jesus in public school auditoriums, anyone who doesn’t like it can leave.

*they believe what they hear on CNN, and other network major media.

*they are anti-change

*they claim to want less government (anti-change, no new laws, etc.)

*they want to form a militia

*they have flags on their lawns and yellow ribbons on their cars with the Christian fish symbol.

*they take too many perscription drugs.


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Wed 01/11/12 10:15 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Wed 01/11/12 10:18 AM





Liberals:

Your average run-of-mill idea of liberals tend to be thought of as poor white, and minorities, mostly catholic, Democrat, atheists or godless pagans.


*They are ex-hippies, draft dodgers, trailer trash

*they don’t trust their president

*they are pro-choice, pro-abortion, free love types

*they are against the death penalty

*they are “atheists” who don’t want the ten commandments on the court house lawn.

*they don’t care one way or another about prayer in schools or they are against it.

*they don’t watch the news

*they want to change the world but don’t know how exactly

*they want to make new laws

*they are probably on welfare or food stamps

*they want to form a commune

*they have flamingos or other tacky things on their lawn and sport all mannor of bumper stickers.

*they live in trailers and drive big cars.

*They smoke pot.



heavenlyboy34's photo
Wed 01/11/12 10:23 AM
Edited by heavenlyboy34 on Wed 01/11/12 10:24 AM

I often wondered why it is that Conservatives are called right and Liberals are called left.

By chance I stumbled across this verse in the Bible.

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.

Ecclesiastes 10:2 (NIV)

Thus sayeth the lord...Amen

Can't get any simpler than that.

"Left" and "Right" originate from popular partisan terms in British Parliament. In this country, it's just a false paradigm.

Optomistic69's photo
Wed 01/11/12 10:28 AM






Liberals:

Your average run-of-mill idea of liberals tend to be thought of as poor white, and minorities, mostly catholic, Democrat, atheists or godless pagans.


*They are ex-hippies, draft dodgers, trailer trash

*they don’t trust their president

*they are pro-choice, pro-abortion, free love types

*they are against the death penalty

*they are “atheists” who don’t want the ten commandments on the court house lawn.

*they don’t care one way or another about prayer in schools or they are against it.

*they don’t watch the news

*they want to change the world but don’t know how exactly

*they want to make new laws

*they are probably on welfare or food stamps

*they want to form a commune

*they have flamingos or other tacky things on their lawn and sport all mannor of bumper stickers.

*they live in trailers and drive big cars.

*They smoke pot.





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8964iLV2M6w

no photo
Wed 01/11/12 10:40 AM
I watched that video, its great!!


no photo
Wed 01/11/12 10:44 AM

"Left" and "Right" originate from popular partisan terms in British Parliament.


Wait... are you tarnishing this perfectly good bit of inflammatory nonsense with facts ?


InvictusV's photo
Wed 01/11/12 11:30 AM
Edited by InvictusV on Wed 01/11/12 11:31 AM



I am looking out my front window and I see Garages...one of which I rent for £5 per week

There are millions of people in the world that would love to have one of those Garages as a place to live in.

Can we honestly say that we are an enlightened people....??????




This is the question..

Do we give people houses or do we give people the tools to build their own houses?





I asked a Question in my last post and you answer with a Question.

Apart from that....Who are the [we]in your Question?

Do we give people houses or do we give people the tools to build their own houses?


When I say we I mean all the people on the planet.

You are implying that your we have control over people








I thought this was a general statement since you didn't quote anyone. I don't really get how a garage for rent equates into are we an enlightened people..

My reference to "we" are the able bodied, the educated, those that have skills and tools to pass along to others.

Pretty basic stuff..

Your theory, apparently, is that the "we" I refer to should hand over cash so the humanitarians can build people houses.

My theory, which is simply, those with skills pass them along to others through education and liberty so they can build a house for themselves.

When something is done for you there is always an expectation that something is owed to them.

When you are given an education, that equals liberty and being able to build your own house... how you see fit... is freedom..




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