well, every child is different

parents really have to decide what works best for THEIR children

santa and the easter bunny have yet to cause any harm in my family, ,,,perhaps in other families it doesnt work as well or teaches poor lessons,,,,

well, every child is different

parents really have to decide what works best for THEIR children

santa and the easter bunny have yet to cause any harm in my family, ,,,perhaps in other families it doesnt work as well or teaches poor lessons,,,,

well, every child is different

parents really have to decide what works best for THEIR children

santa and the easter bunny have yet to cause any harm in my family, ,,,perhaps in other families it doesnt work as well or teaches poor lessons,,,,

Then people who were lied to about Santa grow up and they think it is okay to lie to their own children about it. It goes on and on. Teaching children that its okay to tell tall tales and fool little children.

tsk tsk tsk...

whats a lie to you is a fairytale to me

and fairytales are indeed ok and inspire children's imaginations,,,


like I said, the proof is in the pudding, honesty is prime in our family, even with fairytales, and most of those in my immediate family are creatively gifted in some area...

but , thats my individual case, and everyone is different

The difference between a fairy tale and a lie is this.

If you tell me a story and tell me that it is the truth and it is NOT truth then it is a lie.

If you tell me a story and tell me that it is just a "fairy tale" then it is fiction.

If you tell me a story from the Bible and I say "I don't believe that because that is not possible." and you say, "But it is true!" and you believe it, then I will believe that you believe in a lie.

A person who passes on an untrue story that they believe to be true, cannot be said to be a liar, just as a person who passes on a fatal disease cannot be said to be a murderer.

But you are just as dead if you catch the disease.

this is the difference , TO YOU

as stated before, everyone is different,,,


of the thousands or millions of things my parents told me, there were half a dozen fairytales in the form of holiday stories

I didnt let that half dozen cast doubt on all the thousands that these people who sacrificed everyday for my well being told me label them as untrustworthy

i saw the difference, I saw the harmlessness in it and, FOR ME, I saw it as creative story telling for the effect of creating wonder and excitement

not a lie to mislead, hide, or harm ,,,,,,


which is the difference TO ME,,,,intent and outcome are all the difference to me,,,

Well Santa is a fun and innocuous tradition! It is a good way for
parents to find out what kids want for Christmas. Besides, Santa
is fun! He is jolly and bright and fanciful and charitable and good
to all - plus he has candy canes!

When kids are older they can learn about charity and the original
St. Nick.

1. I don't think it hurts anyone at all because it is a little (red and)
white lie.

2. It benefits everyone because it is fun.

3. We just sort of went along with the whole Santa thing and looked
him up on Norad radar. Once the kids found out - we told them not
to tell other smaller children and ruin it for them.

So - you know - it is all in good fun and in the tradition of the
the holiday - so enjoy without hesitation.



and here is what the Mall Santa won't tell you:

http://www.rd.com/slideshows/13-things-your-mall-santa-won%E2%80%99t-tell-you/

No, that is the difference.
When I ask someone to please tell me the truth and they look me strait in the eye and lie, that is NOT a harmless thing to do if you want my trust.



La dee da! So what? We all know that everyone is different. But truth is truth and a lie is a lie.



Then you simply didn't learn the Santa lesson.



If it was not the truth, and your child asks you for the truth and you lie anyway, there is no way that does no harm. I was a very mature person as a child and I meant it when I asked for the truth. I did not appreciate being lied to and being fooled by adults that I trusted.

But I do appreciate the valuable lesson I learned from the experience. Where the truth was concerned, I have always been a very serious person. I understand that people lie for all kinds of reasons and that does not bother me. But when I am sincere, and I ask for the truth and I am lied to, they have, at that point, lost my trust.

From that point on, everything they tell me is suspect. I have to discern whether or not they are lying.

So basically you taught your older children that it is okay to lie to and fool the smaller children. After all they are too innocent and inexperienced and trusting to know what a lie is. This is where children learn to lie and where they learn that older people lie and cannot be trusted.

Good going. This is where they learned that lying is okay and fun.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0039628/

I'm sorry to have to break it to you. There is no Santa Claus. It is a big fat lie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4xKAfh0-1E

Translation:

"I grew up to mistrust everyone and believe in meritless conspiracy
theories all because THEY LIED to me about Santa Claus."

Basically that is almost an accurate assessment. But I don't believe in conspiracy theories. And I don't believe what the official government propaganda puts forth either. Between all of it, I consider all information and within that information there is truth to be found by looking at motive and agendas.

I believe that some conspiracy theories are very likely possible, and I am aware that corruption and lies do exist and cover-ups are rampant. That does not mean I know what the truth is, but it does mean that I know where the lies are.

I certainly don't "mistrust" everyone.

I expect people and politicians to lie. But in those lies you can always deduce the truth somewhere.

But the main lesson learned was when the establishment tried to lay the Biblical myth on me. First, not much of it made sense, and everyone seemed to disagree about the details, and there was not any real evidence to support it, so guess what?

I don't believe that either.

I would venture to estimate that 97% of everything you think you know is a lie.

Ho! Ho! Ho!

I never learned this, my children havent learned this, the children in my family havent learned this,,,no matter how many times someone repeats that they did,,,,lol


we do, however, pass on traditional fairytales , read mother goose, and tell 'once upon a time' stories

realizing our children will mature someday to realize they were all different types of 'fairytales'....

If you tell your children stories and fairy tales, be sure to tell them that the are only stories. If they ask you if what you say is true, don't lie to them and say that it is. At least say that you don't know or that you don't think it is true.

Don't tell them that Santa is real and lives in the north pole and has flying reindeer and that he delivers presents every year to everyone in the world and goes down chimneys.

If you tell them this is true, then you are lying.

Don't tell them to lie to younger children. If you do, then you are teaching them that it is okay to lie.