I've let my son know Santa is a fable and myth, I take the honest approach. We still celebrate a modest Christmas but I find many of these traditions a bit strange.

I told one of the residents that she better be good or Santa would huff and puff and blow her house down.

Hard to say this written thousands of years ago is not talking of the season we are in.
No Faith Yahweh tells us how to live. No Faith.. Blessings..Miles
this verse seems to imply that we should neither worship nor fear trees,,,,,
Has thier ever been people who feared Trees?
yes, when they were carved into false idols and graven images


Yep you are right on point; Santa and "The Bible" two fantasies. Santa and the bible were both made up by man.

Good for you.

That's getting your myth and mother goose mixed up.

Next thing:

Santa died for our sins.

I know. Children of all ages can be impressionable. She laughed so I know she has a sense of humor.

Some similar myths can have similar outcomes. Some myths just have more devastating effects on the subconscious mind I think though.

Nutcracker Sweet

For the love of coconuts; I never saw a skull so thick.
You totally amaze; My beautiful and lovely Neanderthal.
I have not a clue how you get any knowledge to stick.
Your juice is so inviting; I just need to get an awl.
Of all the cravings I have met; You take the cake.
You would make such a wonderful nut for me to treat.
I have no choice; I either have to drill or break.
I fight my temptation longer; Nutcracker sweet.

I believed in Santa Clause when I was a little girl. As an adult I opted to tell my kids the truth. My thought pattern was if you you teach your children about santa clause, the tooth fairy, the easter bunny and they then find out they are all lies. . How would you expect them to believe you when you teach them about God.

Exactly.

That's why when my parents sent me to church and tried to tell me about some guy called Jesus I thought, "Yeh, sure, another fairy tale."

Who can you trust if you can't trust your own parents to tell you the truth?

How would anyone expect me to fall for another lie especially from total strangers at church?

But in hindsight, I am glad I wised up. Otherwise I would probably be waiting for Jesus to come back like so many other people.

I guess it all depends upon the family and their personal relationships,,,I was told all those fairytales and still was able to appreciate their fantasy while still believing in the Bible


I guess coming of an age where I was able to find out how others bought my gifts, or hid my eggs, was a clue to the fantasy

while no counter truth ever became apparent to refute the things in the Bible,,,,


there were no large congregations and no best selling centuries old accounts of santa or an easter bunny, unlike the bible


,,,there were plenty of differences that I was able to use to discern imaginative , harmless childhood fantasy from more serious historical study and accounts,,,,

I did not and still do not appreciate "fantasy" when I am told that it is truth. I wanted the truth, not fantasy. I always wanted the truth. If we are taught not to lie, by adults then the adults SHOULD NOT LIE to the children. That's the bottom line.

A thing is either true or it is not true. If it is not true and someone you trust (a parent) tells you it is true then they are lying.

I did not really logically believe the Santa story upon hearing about it. My logical mind rejected it. But I trusted the adults who told me it was true, and so I placed my faith in them and accepted the story.

The whole Santa thing is a lesson. The lesson it taught me was to only trust myself and not just believe someone in authority.



The stories in the Bible are worse than the story of Santa Claus. There was/is no need to find any "counter truth to refute them." They are simply lies, myth, fantasy and tall tales from the beginning. There is no truth to refute. The only reason people believe them is that they have placed their trust and faith in the authority of the Church.



No, apparently you did not learn to discern and you did not learn the lesson of Santa Clause.

There is nothing in or about the Bible that is believable except on pure faith. That faith is NOT faith in God, it is faith in the Church and in the authority of the Church that tells you that the fantasy of the Bible is true.

My faith in a trusted authority was shattered with the Santa Lie. I would have to be stupid to believe the Bible/Jesus story.

I was very young when I decided that most adults don't know the truth and don't tell the truth.

No, apparently you did not learn to discern and you did not learn the lesson of Santa Clause.

There is nothing in or about the Bible that is believable except on pure faith. That faith is NOT faith in God, it is faith in the Church and in the authority of the Church that tells you that the fantasy of the Bible is true.

My faith in a trusted authority was shattered with the Santa Lie. I would have to be stupid to believe the Bible/Jesus story.






I would respectfully submit, your 'trust' in those around you was weak to begin with

mine was not,,,,,I trusted in my family, that they love me and want the best for me, and always have

I understood the imaginative fairytales they told me and why, and none of it changed how much I Trusted them in any other area of life

the bible is 66 books, just the statement that there could not possibly be 'anything' that is believable is a testament to ones own feelings about trust and nothing to do with a logical ability to discern truth from fairytale

Respectfully.....You would be wrong. I heard what I surmised logically a fantastic and unbelievable story which in my mind was ridiculous... a man in a sleigh with flying reindeer... etc.

and I did not believe it. YET my trust in my parents and other adults to tell me the truth was very strong. Strong enough that I set aside my own logical thinking and common sense and accepted the fantastic lie I was being told.




The difference there is that you understood that they were telling you imaginative "fairytales."

I wanted the truth. I did not want imaginary fairytales. What I got was a lie.



There might be something in the Bible that is "true" but I was being told that everything in the Bible was absolutely true. It was God's word. God does not lie. Blah blah blah...

Ridiculous. I was five years old and I thought most adults were idiots. I could see that most of them actually believed those lies.

The Santa Lesson was a hard one for me, but one that I am grateful for. I trust only my own ability to ascertain the truth and I am not taken in by any authority no matter who they are, and that would include the Pope himself.

I guess its all perception.

I believed it as truth too, as much as I believed mother goose stories as truth,, until I understood what a fictional book was, or until I understood what a fairytale was

I did not feel 'lied' to behind either

prior to school age, I think my priorities were very much centered around creativity and imagination, more so than rigid 'truth'

maybe thats why I came through it unscathed and still completely trusting in my family,,,

I still believe in the Bible and that God does not lie, I cant prove it true, but noone has yet proven it false, , and it makes perfect logical sense to me,,,

I honestly believe that children learn how to lie when they find out that they were lied to about Santa. It teaches them that its okay to "fool" people or "tease" people with untruths. After all, their parents did it to them...


Santa did not teach me that it was okay to lie. He taught me not to believe something just because someone you trust or some authority tells you it is true.

perhaps some children do


I just learned that fairytales were a passage of life from childhood to adulthood and a wonderful tool to inspire excitement and imagination,,, one of those things adults earn the right to pass on, and that children will earn once they are adults as well,,,


it was never in the same category as a lie,, to me


it was a lesson in 'context', which even today is very important to me and something it seems so many people just dont get,,,,

I think there are plenty of better wonderful tools to inspire excitement and imagination that don't involve tall tales or lies.

well, every child is different

parents really have to decide what works best for THEIR children

santa and the easter bunny have yet to cause any harm in my family, ,,,perhaps in other families it doesnt work as well or teaches poor lessons,,,,