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yes, IM sure we could make plenty of political policies based upon the ideas from 8 year olds of what needs 'fixing',,,,, You REALLY need to get over this gay issue you have. The boy LOVES his mother, he doesn't see her as broken like haters do. It wouldn't be a bad idea to get ideas about the world from children,. They are innocent, have no agenda and are able to see things from a different perspective than stuffy, old, stuck in their ways grownups. An 8 year old child knows more about love an acceptance than most adults. ![]() The child has it absolutely correct. His mother doesn't need to be fixed, she needs to have the same rights as everyone else. |
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http://www.prosebeforehos.com/video-of-the-day/02/02/19-year-old-delivers-incredible-speech-gay-marriage/
perhaps some can accept the concept if the child is 19 and not 8 |
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Gay people do not need fixing . . . that is my opinion. I agree. |
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yes, IM sure we could make plenty of political policies based upon the ideas from 8 year olds of what needs 'fixing',,,,, You REALLY need to get over this gay issue you have. The boy LOVES his mother, he doesn't see her as broken like haters do. It wouldn't be a bad idea to get ideas about the world from children,. They are innocent, have no agenda and are able to see things from a different perspective than stuffy, old, stuck in their ways grownups. An 8 year old child knows more about love an acceptance than most adults. I also agree with this! |
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@ emily...
aren't you just the agreeable one today ![]() |
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Gay people do not need fixing . . . that is my opinion. I agree. Second that. |
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Coaxed or not, people could learn a lot from kids like that. We need to take the logs out of own eyes and quit judging everyone else. Someone choosing to love and be with someone of the same sex, is NOT affecting anyone else but them. I don't care what the religious right says about it. It only starts affecting people because they CHOOSE to be offended, nothing else.
People need to get over themselves, the world is not gonna end because two guys or two girls marry, men and women will still get together, still have sex, still have kids, etc. Life will go on like it always has. Besides that, if all this was so unnatural why does it show up in animals for? Do they need "fixing" too? |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Thu 12/08/11 04:54 PM
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Coaxed or not, people could learn a lot from kids like that. We need to take the logs out of own eyes and quit judging everyone else. Someone choosing to love and be with someone of the same sex, is NOT affecting anyone else but them. I don't care what the religious right says about it. It only starts affecting people because they CHOOSE to be offended, nothing else. People need to get over themselves, the world is not gonna end because two guys or two girls marry, men and women will still get together, still have sex, still have kids, etc. Life will go on like it always has. Besides that, if all this was so unnatural why does it show up in animals for? Do they need "fixing" too? tell people who have contacted std and passed them along that sex is only affecting them tell people who lay down with strangers and bring in fatherless children that sex is only affecting them its a false belief we can learn from children that love is possible in SPITE of people being imperfect, or having flaws, or making mistakes I hardly think anyone objects to who people LOVE who people lie down and share fluids with, or what people do with their bodies however,,,is a different story life goes on in spite of all types of unhealthy behaviors, the world spins even when people DIE, yet we still manage to advise people against things which might lead to their death,, even if it doesnt immediately affect 'US' I think people do need to get over themself, but I think the notion that anything that doesnt affect me directly shouldnt concern me is one of those mentalities that is just as egotistical ,,,,, and different species have different 'natural' things, so comparing humans to animals is irrelevant some species in nature even kill their mate after they have mated with them, some kill their babies if they dont come out strong enough but I wouldnt suggest that is therefore the 'natural' thing for humans,,, |
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http://www.prosebeforehos.com/video-of-the-day/02/02/19-year-old-delivers-incredible-speech-gay-marriage/ perhaps some can accept the concept if the child is 19 and not 8 I accept the opinion, I just dont agree with it. I could post opinions that agree with mine and Im sure plenty would not 'accept' that. its not about accepting, its just about agreeing. I dont think an 8 year old has enough understanding about sex to be looked to for advice. An adult holds more credibility for me, but on this subject, even their opinions fall on both sides of the debate. |
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Edited by
Ladylid2012
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Thu 12/08/11 06:24 PM
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http://www.prosebeforehos.com/video-of-the-day/02/02/19-year-old-delivers-incredible-speech-gay-marriage/ perhaps some can accept the concept if the child is 19 and not 8 I accept the opinion, I just dont agree with it. I could post opinions that agree with mine and Im sure plenty would not 'accept' that. its not about accepting, its just about agreeing. I dont think an 8 year old has enough understanding about sex to be looked to for advice. An adult holds more credibility for me, but on this subject, even their opinions fall on both sides of the debate. At least the boy grew up with some manners, don't ya think he was polite?!?. Can ya look for one good thing?!? DANG! It's NOT about sex~~ Your the one who brings up all the weird ****...animals, molesters, incest..bla, bla, bla. You make it ugly, no one is wanting that garbage to be ok. Nobody said go to an 8 year old for sex advise. Your missing the point msharmony ! Full moon energy abounds tonight, not going to waste mine on this. peace |
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Pure indoctrination.
Kids being taught that homosexing is acceptable behavior. ![]() |
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Ah hell, it's almost 2012! Not the 1950's.........to each his/her own I say!
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http://www.prosebeforehos.com/video-of-the-day/02/02/19-year-old-delivers-incredible-speech-gay-marriage/ perhaps some can accept the concept if the child is 19 and not 8 I accept the opinion, I just dont agree with it. I could post opinions that agree with mine and Im sure plenty would not 'accept' that. its not about accepting, its just about agreeing. I dont think an 8 year old has enough understanding about sex to be looked to for advice. An adult holds more credibility for me, but on this subject, even their opinions fall on both sides of the debate. At least the boy grew up with some manners, don't ya think he was polite?!?. Can ya look for one good thing?!? DANG! It's NOT about sex~~ Your the one who brings up all the weird ****...animals, molesters, incest..bla, bla, bla. You make it ugly, no one is wanting that garbage to be ok. Nobody said go to an 8 year old for sex advise. Your missing the point msharmony ! Full moon energy abounds tonight, not going to waste mine on this. peace as stated before, I do find the ignorance of youth to be 'sweet' sometimes,, especially in how children can often feel their parents do no wrong and are perfect,,, |
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Fri 12/09/11 04:55 AM
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So.... the basic fact is that "parenting" is the problem? I can agree with that.
How about economic hardship? Too much TV and not enough peer to peer activity, sports, outside interests? How about religion? Maybe it's bad teachers, or bad laws, or bad people who decide what the laws should be? Perhaps we need a dictator and a military to keep them in power telling us what's right or wrong? 8 year olds DO have opinions! They base them on their environment, actions and words within it. They are not always sound nor informed, but that is the result of their involvement in those issues, and their comprehension of them. Yep, it's parenting! ![]() I remember a Star Trek episode about kids ruling a planet.... They called anyone over 14 "Grumps"...short for "grownups"! ![]() Plot On stardate 2713.5, the starship USS Enterprise, under the command of Captain James T. Kirk, follows an old planetary distress call leading to a planet that looks exactly like Earth in every detail. Kirk assembles a landing party consisting of himself, Mr. Spock, Dr. McCoy, Yeoman Janice Rand, and two security personnel, to investigate this remarkable find. Upon their arrival, they find the planet is virtually a duplicate of Earth of the 1960s, but it all seems abandoned. As the team curiously inspects a tricycle, they are attacked by a ragged man who seems infected by a horrible disfiguring mutation, but shows incredible strength. Spock attempts to stun the man with his phaser, but the man drops dead at that point. The security guards then spot another figure running into a building. The team chases the figure down, discovering that it's a terrified girl, who appears physically normal. She identifies herself as Miri (Kim Darby), and when asked why she ran away from them, she tells them because they are "grups" (a contraction of "grown ups"), and the grups killed and hurt the children before they died. When asked where her family are, Miri tells them that she is an "Onlie", and she and her friends are the "only ones" left as all the adults are dead. Soon the landing party starts to notice painful blue sores are forming on their bodies; Spock however remains immune. Miri informs them that these are the first sign of the disease, and they will soon become like the other adults. The team searches an abandoned hospital for clues to the mysterious condition. They discover the disease infects only those who have reached puberty. It is an accidental side-effect of an experiment to prolong life; the technique works on children, but when they reach puberty, they enter a short period of violent rage and then die. Shockingly, they learn that the children are over 300 years old, having aged only one month's time every century. McCoy also discovers that once the disease starts, they only have 7 days to live. Even though Spock seems immune to the disease, he believes he is still a carrier and could infect the Enterprise if he returns. Meanwhile, the rest of the hiding children, who do not trust these new grups, decide to meddle with their plans. Their leader, a boy named Jahn, steals the landing party's communicators, which renders McCoy's search for a cure nearly impossible without assistance from the Enterprise computers. Miri however, doesn't agree with the other children's mischief and stays near Captain Kirk, on whom she appears to have a crush. However, when Yeoman Rand becomes hysterical over their impending fate and Kirk tries to console her, Miri becomes jealous and runs away to scheme with her friends. The children devise a "foolie" prank and kidnap Rand. Returning later, Miri is confronted by Kirk, who tells her she and the others will eventually contract the disease just like the grups if they don't help him find a cure. In fact, he grabs Miri's arms and shows her the blue sores that are already forming on her skin. Miri takes Kirk to the schoolhouse where Rand is held captive. He confronts the children and tries to get it through their heads that none of this is a game. At first the children don't listen and continue to harass him, encouraged by Jahn. They become increasingly menacing until one of them finally beats Kirk nearly senseless with a wrench. Bruised and bloodied, Kirk implores them to think of the youngest onlies, who will be left without resources when the older ones are dead. He warns them that the stores of food and supplies are nearly depleted. He also points out that the children have hurt him and now have blood literally on their hands, exactly like the grups they are afraid of. "I'm a grup," he says, "and I want to help." Kirk rounds up the children and returns to the hospital, but finds that Spock has previously found that McCoy, unable to accurately test his experimental serum, has injected himself with a full dose and collapsed to the floor. Soon however, his sores fade away. The serum is found to be safe and completely destroys the disease. After curing the landing party and the children, Kirk informs Starfleet to send teachers and advisers to the duplicate Earth, to help the children start their lives over again. Friggin Gov't involvement! ![]() ![]() |
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Ah hell, it's almost 2012! Not the 1950's.........to each his/her own I say! I have seen. Three generations since the fifties lose morality and and value life much less. Mine, with sex, drugs and rock-n-roll. Hence, aids and other sex oriented diseases. My kids generation, now in their 30's with the Rap, Gangster, drugs. The new, upcoming generation lacking value of life with filming beat-downs, gang invasions of stores. They are much more violently inclined. Pop-a-cap just to see what it feels like to kill. New movies rated R and every other word is Fck this or that. Lack imagination. It was a great movie and didn't need the excess fcking. Just more, lack of dignity, honor and respect being drilled into the up and running generation. I will not buy into the, 'homosex is a wholesome family value'. |
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Ah hell, it's almost 2012! Not the 1950's.........to each his/her own I say! I have seen. Three generations since the fifties lose morality and and value life much less. OH REALLY..YA THINK????? I WONDER WHY, HMMMM..MUST BE THOSE DYKES AND FAGS ![]() ![]() Every military intervention and or....war since the 50's PHILIPPINES 1948-54 Command operation CIA directs war against Huk Rebellion. PUERTO RICO 1950 Command operation Independence rebellion crushed in Ponce. KOREA 1951-53 (-?) Troops, naval, bombing , nuclear threats U.S./So. Korea fights China/No. Korea to stalemate; A-bomb threat in 1950, and against China in 1953. Still have bases. IRAN 1953 Command Operation CIA overthrows democracy, installs Shah. VIETNAM 1954 Nuclear threat French offered bombs to use against seige. GUATEMALA 1954 Command operation, bombing, nuclear threat CIA directs exile invasion after new gov't nationalized U.S. company lands; bombers based in Nicaragua. EGYPT 1956 Nuclear threat, troops Soviets told to keep out of Suez crisis; Marines evacuate foreigners. LEBANON l958 Troops, naval Army & Marine occupation against rebels. IRAQ 1958 Nuclear threat Iraq warned against invading Kuwait. CHINA l958 Nuclear threat China told not to move on Taiwan isles. PANAMA 1958 Troops Flag protests erupt into confrontation. VIETNAM l960-75 Troops, naval, bombing, nuclear threats Fought South Vietnam revolt & North Vietnam; one million killed in longest U.S. war; atomic bomb threats in l968 and l969. CUBA l961 Command operation CIA-directed exile invasion fails. GERMANY l961 Nuclear threat Alert during Berlin Wall crisis. LAOS 1962 Command operation Military buildup during guerrilla war. CUBA l962 Nuclear threat, naval Blockade during missile crisis; near-war with Soviet Union. IRAQ 1963 Command operation CIA organizes coup that killed president, brings Ba'ath Party to power, and Saddam Hussein back from exile to be head of the secret service. PANAMA l964 Troops Panamanians shot for urging canal's return. INDONESIA l965 Command operation Million killed in CIA-assisted army coup. DOMINICAN REPUBLIC 1965-66 Troops, bombing Army & Marines land during election campaign. GUATEMALA l966-67 Command operation Green Berets intervene against rebels. DETROIT l967 Troops Army battles African Americans, 43 killed. UNITED STATES l968 Troops After King is shot; over 21,000 soldiers in cities. CAMBODIA l969-75 Bombing, troops, naval Up to 2 million killed in decade of bombing, starvation, and political chaos. OMAN l970 Command operation U.S. directs Iranian marine invasion. LAOS l971-73 Command operation, bombing U.S. directs South Vietnamese invasion; "carpet-bombs" countryside. SOUTH DAKOTA l973 Command operation Army directs Wounded Knee siege of Lakotas. MIDEAST 1973 Nuclear threat World-wide alert during Mideast War. CHILE 1973 Command operation CIA-backed coup ousts elected marxist president. CAMBODIA l975 Troops, bombing Gassing of captured ship Mayagüez, 28 troops die when copter shot down. ANGOLA l976-92 Command operation CIA assists South African-backed rebels. IRAN l980 Troops, nuclear threat, aborted bombing Raid to rescue Embassy hostages; 8 troops die in copter-plane crash. Soviets warned not to get involved in revolution. LIBYA l981 Naval jets Two Libyan jets shot down in maneuvers. EL SALVADOR l981-92 Command operation, troops Advisors, overflights aid anti-rebel war, soldiers briefly involved in hostage clash. NICARAGUA l981-90 Command operation, naval CIA directs exile (Contra) invasions, plants harbor mines against revolution. LEBANON l982-84 Naval, bombing, troops Marines expel PLO and back Phalangists, Navy bombs and shells Muslim positions. 241 Marines killed when Shi'a rebel bombs barracks. GRENADA l983-84 Troops, bombing Invasion four years after revolution. HONDURAS l983-89 Troops Maneuvers help build bases near borders. IRAN l984 Jets Two Iranian jets shot down over Persian Gulf. LIBYA l986 Bombing, naval Air strikes to topple nationalist gov't. BOLIVIA 1986 Troops Army assists raids on cocaine region. IRAN l987-88 Naval, bombing US intervenes on side of Iraq in war. LIBYA 1989 Naval jets Two Libyan jets shot down. VIRGIN ISLANDS 1989 Troops St. Croix Black unrest after storm. PHILIPPINES 1989 Jets Air cover provided for government against coup. PANAMA 1989 (-?) Troops, bombing Nationalist government ousted by 27,000 soldiers, leaders arrested, 2000+ killed. LIBERIA 1990 Troops Foreigners evacuated during civil war. SAUDI ARABIA 1990-91 Troops, jets Iraq countered after invading Kuwait. 540,000 troops also stationed in Oman, Qatar, Bahrain, UAE, Israel. IRAQ 1990-91 Bombing, troops, naval Blockade of Iraqi and Jordanian ports, air strikes; 200,000+ killed in invasion of Iraq and Kuwait; large-scale destruction of Iraqi military. KUWAIT 1991 Naval, bombing, troops Kuwait royal family returned to throne. IRAQ 1991-2003 Bombing, naval No-fly zone over Kurdish north, Shiite south; constant air strikes and naval-enforced economic sanctions LOS ANGELES 1992 Troops Army, Marines deployed against anti-police uprising. SOMALIA 1992-94 Troops, naval, bombing U.S.-led United Nations occupation during civil war; raids against one Mogadishu faction. YUGOSLAVIA 1992-94 Naval NATO blockade of Serbia and Montenegro. BOSNIA 1993-? Jets, bombing No-fly zone patrolled in civil war; downed jets, bombed Serbs. HAITI 1994 Troops, naval Blockade against military government; troops restore President Aristide to office three years after coup. ZAIRE (CONGO) 1996-97 Troops Troops at Rwandan Hutu refugee camps, in area where Congo revolution begins. LIBERIA 1997 Troops Soldiers under fire during evacuation of foreigners. ALBANIA 1997 Troops Soldiers under fire during evacuation of foreigners. SUDAN 1998 Missiles Attack on pharmaceutical plant alleged to be "terrorist" nerve gas plant. AFGHANISTAN 1998 Missiles Attack on former CIA training camps used by Islamic fundamentalist groups alleged to have attacked embassies. 1998 Bombing, Missiles Four days of intensive air strikes after weapons inspectors allege Iraqi obstructions. YUGOSLAVIA 1999 Bombing, Missiles Heavy NATO air strikes after Serbia declines to withdraw from Kosovo. NATO occupation of Kosovo. YEMEN 2000 Naval USS Cole, docked in Aden, bombed. MACEDONIA 2001 Troops NATO forces deployed to move and disarm Albanian rebels. UNITED STATES 2001 Jets, naval Reaction to hijacker attacks on New York, DC AFGHANISTAN 2001-? Troops, bombing, missiles Massive U.S. mobilization to overthrow Taliban, hunt Al Qaeda fighters, install Karzai regime, and battle Taliban insurgency. More than 30,000 U.S. troops and numerous private security contractors carry our occupation. YEMEN 2002 Missiles Predator drone missile attack on Al Qaeda, including a US citizen. PHILIPPINES 2002-? Troops, naval Training mission for Philippine military fighting Abu Sayyaf rebels evolves into combat missions in Sulu Archipelago, west of Mindanao. COLOMBIA 2003-? Troops US special forces sent to rebel zone to back up Colombian military protecting oil pipeline. IRAQ 2003-? Troops, naval, bombing, missiles Saddam regime toppled in Baghdad. More than 250,000 U.S. personnel participate in invasion. US and UK forces occupy country and battle Sunni and Shi'ite insurgencies. More than 160,000 troops and numerous private contractors carry out occupation and build large permanent bases. LIBERIA 2003 Troops Brief involvement in peacekeeping force as rebels drove out leader. HAITI 2004-05 Troops, naval Marines & Army land after right-wing rebels oust elected President Aristide, who was advised to leave by Washington. PAKISTAN 2005-? Missiles, bombing, covert operation CIA missile and air strikes and Special Forces raids on alleged Al Qaeda and Taliban refuge villages kill multiple civilians. Drone attacks also on Pakistani Mehsud network. SOMALIA 2006-? Missiles, naval, troops, command operation Special Forces advise Ethiopian invasion that topples Islamist government; AC-130 strikes, Cruise missile attacks and helicopter raids against Islamist rebels; naval blockade against "pirates" and insurgents. SYRIA 2008 Troops Special Forces in helicopter raid 5 miles from Iraq kill 8 Syrian civilians YEMEN 2009-? Missiles, command operation Cruise missile attack on Al Qaeda kills 49 civilians; Yemeni military assaults on rebels LIBYA 2011-? Bombing, missiles, command operation NATO coordinates air strikes and missile attacks against Qaddafi government during uprising by rebel army. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Fri 12/09/11 06:59 PM
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I think we have gone more towards an egocentric, materialistic, technological existence than a communal, integrity based, intimate social one
and the causes are high in number and complex,, but do indeed involve a changing egocentric value and outlook on life,, in my opinion, equating to lower morals,, |
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