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The provision of chemical precursors from United States companies to Iraq was enabled by a Ronald Reagan administration policy that removed Iraq from the State Department's list of State Sponsors of Terrorism. Leaked portions of Iraq's "Full, Final and Complete" disclosure of the sources for its weapons programs shows that thiodiglycol, a substance needed to manufacture mustard gas, was among the chemical precursors provided to Iraq from US companies such as Alcolac International and Phillips. Both companies have since undergone reorganization and Phillips, once a subsidiary of Phillips Petroleum is now part of ConocoPhillips, an American oil and discount fossil fuel company, while Alcolac International has since dissolved and reformed as Alcolac Inc.[24] Alcolac was named as a defendant in the Aziz v. Iraq case presently pending in the United States District Court (Case No. 1:09-cv-00869-MJG).[citation needed] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_poison_gas_attack To easy eh? 
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Conrad_73
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The provision of chemical precursors from United States companies to Iraq was enabled by a Ronald Reagan administration policy that removed Iraq from the State Department's list of State Sponsors of Terrorism. Leaked portions of Iraq's "Full, Final and Complete" disclosure of the sources for its weapons programs shows that thiodiglycol, a substance needed to manufacture mustard gas, was among the chemical precursors provided to Iraq from US companies such as Alcolac International and Phillips. Both companies have since undergone reorganization and Phillips, once a subsidiary of Phillips Petroleum is now part of ConocoPhillips, an American oil and discount fossil fuel company, while Alcolac International has since dissolved and reformed as Alcolac Inc.[24] Alcolac was named as a defendant in the Aziz v. Iraq case presently pending in the United States District Court (Case No. 1:09-cv-00869-MJG).[citation needed] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_poison_gas_attack To easy eh?
 actually that's not what I said!
as to absurd Statements! 
Sad that you all can only win by making ad-Hominem Attacks! |
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The provision of chemical precursors from United States companies to Iraq was enabled by a Ronald Reagan administration policy that removed Iraq from the State Department's list of State Sponsors of Terrorism. Leaked portions of Iraq's "Full, Final and Complete" disclosure of the sources for its weapons programs shows that thiodiglycol, a substance needed to manufacture mustard gas, was among the chemical precursors provided to Iraq from US companies such as Alcolac International and Phillips. Both companies have since undergone reorganization and Phillips, once a subsidiary of Phillips Petroleum is now part of ConocoPhillips, an American oil and discount fossil fuel company, while Alcolac International has since dissolved and reformed as Alcolac Inc.[24] Alcolac was named as a defendant in the Aziz v. Iraq case presently pending in the United States District Court (Case No. 1:09-cv-00869-MJG).[citation needed] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_poison_gas_attack To easy eh?
actually that's not what I said!
as to absurd Statements! You only need to look as far as your Mirror!
Mr.Conrad said "maybe check how easy it is to go from Insecticide to Chemical Weapon!" source. two posts up. case closed. |
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Edited by
Conrad_73
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Sat 12/03/11 07:49 AM
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The provision of chemical precursors from United States companies to Iraq was enabled by a Ronald Reagan administration policy that removed Iraq from the State Department's list of State Sponsors of Terrorism. Leaked portions of Iraq's "Full, Final and Complete" disclosure of the sources for its weapons programs shows that thiodiglycol, a substance needed to manufacture mustard gas, was among the chemical precursors provided to Iraq from US companies such as Alcolac International and Phillips. Both companies have since undergone reorganization and Phillips, once a subsidiary of Phillips Petroleum is now part of ConocoPhillips, an American oil and discount fossil fuel company, while Alcolac International has since dissolved and reformed as Alcolac Inc.[24] Alcolac was named as a defendant in the Aziz v. Iraq case presently pending in the United States District Court (Case No. 1:09-cv-00869-MJG).[citation needed] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_poison_gas_attack To easy eh?
actually that's not what I said!
as to absurd Statements! You only need to look as far as your Mirror!
Mr.Conrad said "maybe check how easy it is to go from Insecticide to Chemical Weapon!" source. two posts up. case closed. The Antidotes to Nerve-Agents and those Insecticides based on them ought to give you a Clue! If you don't believe me,go into your Bathroom and stay there while you set off a Can of that Stuff,or if you have access to the Undiluted Insecticide take a Whiff or two,and I ain't talking about Pyrethrum! A number of insecticides, the phenothiazines, organophosphates such as dichlorvos, malathion and parathion, are nerve agents. The metabolism of insects is sufficiently different from mammals that these compounds have little effect on humans and other mammals at proper doses; but there is considerable concern about the effects of long-term exposure to these chemicals by farm workers and animals alike. At high enough doses, however, acute toxicity and death can occur through the same mechanism as other nerve agents. Organophosphate pesticide poisoning is a major cause of disability in many developing countries and is often the preferred method of suicide.WIKI http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerve_agent |
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The provision of chemical precursors from United States companies to Iraq was enabled by a Ronald Reagan administration policy that removed Iraq from the State Department's list of State Sponsors of Terrorism. Leaked portions of Iraq's "Full, Final and Complete" disclosure of the sources for its weapons programs shows that thiodiglycol, a substance needed to manufacture mustard gas, was among the chemical precursors provided to Iraq from US companies such as Alcolac International and Phillips. Both companies have since undergone reorganization and Phillips, once a subsidiary of Phillips Petroleum is now part of ConocoPhillips, an American oil and discount fossil fuel company, while Alcolac International has since dissolved and reformed as Alcolac Inc.[24] Alcolac was named as a defendant in the Aziz v. Iraq case presently pending in the United States District Court (Case No. 1:09-cv-00869-MJG).[citation needed] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_poison_gas_attack To easy eh?
actually that's not what I said!
as to absurd Statements! You only need to look as far as your Mirror!
Mr.Conrad said "maybe check how easy it is to go from Insecticide to Chemical Weapon!" source. two posts up. case closed. The Antidotes to Nerve-Agents and those Insecticides based on them ought to give you a Clue! If you don't believe me,go into your Bathroom and stay there while you set off a Can of that Stuff,or if you have access to the Undiluted Insecticide take a Whiff or two,and I ain't talking about Pyrethrum! A number of insecticides, the phenothiazines, organophosphates such as dichlorvos, malathion and parathion, are nerve agents. The metabolism of insects is sufficiently different from mammals that these compounds have little effect on humans and other mammals at proper doses; but there is considerable concern about the effects of long-term exposure to these chemicals by farm workers and animals alike. At high enough doses, however, acute toxicity and death can occur through the same mechanism as other nerve agents. Organophosphate pesticide poisoning is a major cause of disability in many developing countries and is often the preferred method of suicide.WIKI http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerve_agent |
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The provision of chemical precursors from United States companies to Iraq was enabled by a Ronald Reagan administration policy that removed Iraq from the State Department's list of State Sponsors of Terrorism. Leaked portions of Iraq's "Full, Final and Complete" disclosure of the sources for its weapons programs shows that thiodiglycol, a substance needed to manufacture mustard gas, was among the chemical precursors provided to Iraq from US companies such as Alcolac International and Phillips. Both companies have since undergone reorganization and Phillips, once a subsidiary of Phillips Petroleum is now part of ConocoPhillips, an American oil and discount fossil fuel company, while Alcolac International has since dissolved and reformed as Alcolac Inc.[24] Alcolac was named as a defendant in the Aziz v. Iraq case presently pending in the United States District Court (Case No. 1:09-cv-00869-MJG).[citation needed] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_poison_gas_attack To easy eh?
actually that's not what I said!
as to absurd Statements! You only need to look as far as your Mirror!
Mr.Conrad said "maybe check how easy it is to go from Insecticide to Chemical Weapon!" source. two posts up. case closed. The Antidotes to Nerve-Agents and those Insecticides based on them ought to give you a Clue! If you don't believe me,go into your Bathroom and stay there while you set off a Can of that Stuff,or if you have access to the Undiluted Insecticide take a Whiff or two,and I ain't talking about Pyrethrum! A number of insecticides, the phenothiazines, organophosphates such as dichlorvos, malathion and parathion, are nerve agents. The metabolism of insects is sufficiently different from mammals that these compounds have little effect on humans and other mammals at proper doses; but there is considerable concern about the effects of long-term exposure to these chemicals by farm workers and animals alike. At high enough doses, however, acute toxicity and death can occur through the same mechanism as other nerve agents. Organophosphate pesticide poisoning is a major cause of disability in many developing countries and is often the preferred method of suicide.WIKI http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerve_agent |
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F-22 was not extended cause they wanted it...
It was extended cause the replacement craft developed a design flaw. and the money 'facts' listed in OP are slanted. Replacement aircraft for F-22 cost 12 Billion more than does that bird, (at initial deploy) and proper 'replacement & maintenance' costs can not become 'fact' until a deployemnt has occured (and 'maintance' becomes a reality). |
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F-22 was not extended cause they wanted it... It was extended cause the replacement craft developed a design flaw. and the money 'facts' listed in OP are slanted. Replacement aircraft for F-22 cost 12 Billion more than does that bird, (at initial deploy) and proper 'replacement & maintenance' costs can not become 'fact' until a deployemnt has occured (and 'maintance' becomes a reality). |
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F-22 was not extended cause they wanted it... It was extended cause the replacement craft developed a design flaw. and the money 'facts' listed in OP are slanted. Replacement aircraft for F-22 cost 12 Billion more than does that bird, (at initial deploy) and proper 'replacement & maintenance' costs can not become 'fact' until a deployemnt has occured (and 'maintance' becomes a reality). |
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F-22 was not extended cause they wanted it... It was extended cause the replacement craft developed a design flaw. and the money 'facts' listed in OP are slanted. Replacement aircraft for F-22 cost 12 Billion more than does that bird, (at initial deploy) and proper 'replacement & maintenance' costs can not become 'fact' until a deployemnt has occured (and 'maintance' becomes a reality). Yep this Multi billion dollar baby has no mission and if it did it would not be able to fullfill it, just another example of hard working tax paying americans being defrauded by the 1% |
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F-22 was not extended cause they wanted it... It was extended cause the replacement craft developed a design flaw. and the money 'facts' listed in OP are slanted. Replacement aircraft for F-22 cost 12 Billion more than does that bird, (at initial deploy) and proper 'replacement & maintenance' costs can not become 'fact' until a deployemnt has occured (and 'maintance' becomes a reality). Yep this Multi billion dollar baby has no mission and if it did it would not be able to fullfill it, just another example of hard working tax paying americans being defrauded by the 1% Now isn't that absurd? |
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Edited by
Bestinshow
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Sun 12/04/11 09:13 AM
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F-22 was not extended cause they wanted it... It was extended cause the replacement craft developed a design flaw. and the money 'facts' listed in OP are slanted. Replacement aircraft for F-22 cost 12 Billion more than does that bird, (at initial deploy) and proper 'replacement & maintenance' costs can not become 'fact' until a deployemnt has occured (and 'maintance' becomes a reality). Yep this Multi billion dollar baby has no mission and if it did it would not be able to fullfill it, just another example of hard working tax paying americans being defrauded by the 1% Now isn't that absurd? However maybe its just me but I will not comment in a thread unless I have at least a little information that is accurate and can be supported either with facts or logic. I would recomend this to others as well, we are not here to argue but to present facts and opinions based on facts not some slag someone got from Fox news |
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F-22 was not extended cause they wanted it... It was extended cause the replacement craft developed a design flaw. and the money 'facts' listed in OP are slanted. Replacement aircraft for F-22 cost 12 Billion more than does that bird, (at initial deploy) and proper 'replacement & maintenance' costs can not become 'fact' until a deployemnt has occured (and 'maintance' becomes a reality). Yep this Multi billion dollar baby has no mission and if it did it would not be able to fullfill it, just another example of hard working tax paying americans being defrauded by the 1% Now isn't that absurd?
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F-22 was not extended cause they wanted it... It was extended cause the replacement craft developed a design flaw. and the money 'facts' listed in OP are slanted. Replacement aircraft for F-22 cost 12 Billion more than does that bird, (at initial deploy) and proper 'replacement & maintenance' costs can not become 'fact' until a deployemnt has occured (and 'maintance' becomes a reality). Yep this Multi billion dollar baby has no mission and if it did it would not be able to fullfill it, just another example of hard working tax paying americans being defrauded by the 1% Now isn't that absurd?
 
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And in other News..........
Almost half of the RAF's new Typhoon jets are grounded at any given time - because the military does not have the spare parts to fix them. At times only 20 are available for use in Britain's Forward Fleet - used to protect our skies - because so many are undergoing repairs, Ministry of Defence data revealed. Webmaster's Commentary: The American F-15s are grounded half the time, for the same reason. The F-22s are currently all grounded because they asphyxiate their own pilots, the F-35 cannot fly in the rain because the electronics start to malfunction when wet, and the B-2 cannot fly in the rain because it loses its radar stealth when wet. The US and UK are buying their expensive weapons (over $30,000 per air-hour to keep the F-22 flying) from the same people who make products designed to fail after the warranty expires to force you to buy another one. And the war may already be lost because of that! http://whatreallyhappened.com/ |
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