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S1owhand, I have told you that I appose political movement called Zionism and that Zionism does NOT represent all Jews and yet you continue to completely ignore these statements and just rattle off a bunch of canned Zionist propaganda. You have argued that "Jews" are not a "race" and yet now you are lumping all Jews together as a race and comparing them to Blacks. Everyone knows that there are Jews with completely different genetic and ethnic backgrounds and they even discriminate against each other. Guess what? They even kill each other!! They are no different than anyone else. No surprize. There are both good and evil Jews. There are clearly anti-Zionist religious Jews and you refuse to listen or acknowledge that fact. There are even Jewish citizens living in Israel who are aware that their leadership and their government is corrupt, even evil. Jews for Jesus in Israel are treated as second class citizens. It is stupid to attempt to portray all Jews as good or bad, but that is what you are trying to suggest by lumping them all together. Jews, like anyone else, are individuals. Some good, some bad just like the rest of us. I would hate the world to judge all Americans because of our own corrupt leaders. Jews are decent good people and and yet there are vicious Zionists criminals who claim to be Jews and they are the worst enemy of the Jews because they try to claim that they are "innocent poor persecuted Jews" who are only defending themselves and only occupying Israel because they need a "safe haven" to live. Yet their "safe" place is surrounded by their enemies which they have created themselves by their own aggressive violent actions of conquest and war. And they have people like you who continue to aid them in blurring the distinction between a corrupt criminal Zionist movement and all other Jewish people of the world. You are not doing the Jewish people any favors. Millions of Jews live in America and people are not out there trying to kill them. Yet the Jews in Israel are screaming and crying that everyone around them wants to annihilate them. I am through reading or responding to your posts. You are close to accusing me of being anti-Semitic and nothing could be further from the truth. Yes, there are all sorts of Jews but to say the Jews in America are safe is wrong. Jews worldwide have to suffer antisemitic attacks and there was one in Brooklyn just yesterday. Jewish graves desecrated is one that comes to mind. Antisemitism hasn't stopped. I know you have been wondering of the whys and wherefores as to why but it is most likely that Jews don't fight back and therefore are scapegoats. You have often mentioned "Yet their "safe" place is surrounded by their enemies which they have created themselves by their own aggressive violent actions of conquest and war." I wonder where you get your views of that from. The Jews were given the land just after World War 1, as it was their land from thousands of years ago. Of course you posted you don't believe in the existence of the historical facts of the Old Testament so basically you really do not know or have sympathy for the Jews at all do you. Never mind - thank goodness there are plenty that do and you are in the minority. So are you saying that sympathy is what Jews want? Really? Why? What do they gain by getting sympathy? Jews are just as safe in America as anyone else. Blacks are more persecuted for their race than Jews worldwide. Where do I get my views? From reading world news not just Zionist controlled media. Why should I have sympathy for Jews? They are no different from anyone else. Jews don't want sympathy. They want a cessation of the crap constantly thrown at them. They want to get on with their lives in peace without fear of hate from others. I certainly don't ask for sympathy. |
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Conrad_73
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It's called Israel, not Palestine. And as I said muslims infiltrate over the border to escape persecution from other muslims, and they infiltrate into Israel and Israel gives them refuge. So as I said Israel is good to everyone. And yes, the beauty of working from home is my time is my own and I can dip into the internet when I want to! Whatever...Palestine..Israel...Occupied Territories.....Bantustans...Apartheid Land. The End Solution Return to Borders of 1967 Right of Return for Refugees (agreed numbers) And East Jerusalem as Capital of Palestine 
Ta me ag dul amach anois. Ta suil agam go mbeigh me ag caint leat faoi lathair. Slan Leat anois. 
The Arabs made sure they were called Armistice Lines! 
No Borders! 1949 Armistice-Lines! In fact, Article II of the Armistice with the Jordanians explicitly specified that the agreement did not compromise any future territorial claims of the parties, since it had been "dictated by exclusively by military considerations." In other words, the old Armistice Line was not a recognized international border. It had no finality. As a result, the Jordanians reserved the right after 1949 to demand territories inside Israel, for the Arab side. It was noteworthy that on May 31, 1967, the Jordanian ambassador to the UN made this very point to the UN Security Council just days before the Six-Day War, by stressing that the old armistice agreement "did not fix boundaries". http://www.dore-gold.com/2010/04/the-myth-of-the-1967-borders.php Yet in recent years a reverse process has been underway to re-establish the 1949 Armistice line, calling it the 1967 border and sanctifying it as a legitimate international boundary. This is one of the side effects of the 2002 Arab Peace Initiative, which talks about the 1967 lines. The 2003 Road Map introduced a problematic terminology that a peace settlement "ends the occupation that began in 1967." This was partially offset by the reference to Resolution 242 in the Road Map, as well, with its caveats against a full Israeli withdrawal from the territories and its call for establishing secure boundaries. |
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S1owhand, I have told you that I appose political movement called Zionism and that Zionism does NOT represent all Jews and yet you continue to completely ignore these statements and just rattle off a bunch of canned Zionist propaganda. You have argued that "Jews" are not a "race" and yet now you are lumping all Jews together as a race and comparing them to Blacks. Everyone knows that there are Jews with completely different genetic and ethnic backgrounds and they even discriminate against each other. Guess what? They even kill each other!! They are no different than anyone else. No surprize. There are both good and evil Jews. There are clearly anti-Zionist religious Jews and you refuse to listen or acknowledge that fact. There are even Jewish citizens living in Israel who are aware that their leadership and their government is corrupt, even evil. Jews for Jesus in Israel are treated as second class citizens. It is stupid to attempt to portray all Jews as good or bad, but that is what you are trying to suggest by lumping them all together. Jews, like anyone else, are individuals. Some good, some bad just like the rest of us. I would hate the world to judge all Americans because of our own corrupt leaders. Jews are decent good people and and yet there are vicious Zionists criminals who claim to be Jews and they are the worst enemy of the Jews because they try to claim that they are "innocent poor persecuted Jews" who are only defending themselves and only occupying Israel because they need a "safe haven" to live. Yet their "safe" place is surrounded by their enemies which they have created themselves by their own aggressive violent actions of conquest and war. And they have people like you who continue to aid them in blurring the distinction between a corrupt criminal Zionist movement and all other Jewish people of the world. You are not doing the Jewish people any favors. Millions of Jews live in America and people are not out there trying to kill them. Yet the Jews in Israel are screaming and crying that everyone around them wants to annihilate them. I am through reading or responding to your posts. You are close to accusing me of being anti-Semitic and nothing could be further from the truth. Yes, there are all sorts of Jews but to say the Jews in America are safe is wrong. Jews worldwide have to suffer antisemitic attacks and there was one in Brooklyn just yesterday. Jewish graves desecrated is one that comes to mind. Antisemitism hasn't stopped. I know you have been wondering of the whys and wherefores as to why but it is most likely that Jews don't fight back and therefore are scapegoats. You have often mentioned "Yet their "safe" place is surrounded by their enemies which they have created themselves by their own aggressive violent actions of conquest and war." I wonder where you get your views of that from. The Jews were given the land just after World War 1, as it was their land from thousands of years ago. Of course you posted you don't believe in the existence of the historical facts of the Old Testament so basically you really do not know or have sympathy for the Jews at all do you. Never mind - thank goodness there are plenty that do and you are in the minority. So are you saying that sympathy is what Jews want? Really? Why? What do they gain by getting sympathy? Jews are just as safe in America as anyone else. Blacks are more persecuted for their race than Jews worldwide. Where do I get my views? From reading world news not just Zionist controlled media. Why should I have sympathy for Jews? They are no different from anyone else. Jews don't want sympathy. They want a cessation of the crap constantly thrown at them. They want to get on with their lives in peace without fear of hate from others. I certainly don't ask for sympathy. Then why did you accuse me of not having sympathy for the Jews? Why should I have sympathy for them? If they don't want sympathy then they should stop whining that they are persecuted and milking that to death. That is what the Zionist movement does. They whine and cry that everyone is trying to destroy Israel. Yet they oppress their neighbors and steal land via conquest and war. They bomb Egypt and claim that they were about to be annihilated. That is a crock. They just wanted control of the area, which is what the six day war was all about. And they attacked an American Spy Ship and killed 35 people. They knew what they were doing. I don't believe it was a mistake. They are not that stupid. |
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S1owhand, I have told you that I appose political movement called Zionism and that Zionism does NOT represent all Jews and yet you continue to completely ignore these statements and just rattle off a bunch of canned Zionist propaganda. You have argued that "Jews" are not a "race" and yet now you are lumping all Jews together as a race and comparing them to Blacks. Everyone knows that there are Jews with completely different genetic and ethnic backgrounds and they even discriminate against each other. Guess what? They even kill each other!! They are no different than anyone else. No surprize. There are both good and evil Jews. There are clearly anti-Zionist religious Jews and you refuse to listen or acknowledge that fact. There are even Jewish citizens living in Israel who are aware that their leadership and their government is corrupt, even evil. Jews for Jesus in Israel are treated as second class citizens. It is stupid to attempt to portray all Jews as good or bad, but that is what you are trying to suggest by lumping them all together. Jews, like anyone else, are individuals. Some good, some bad just like the rest of us. I would hate the world to judge all Americans because of our own corrupt leaders. Jews are decent good people and and yet there are vicious Zionists criminals who claim to be Jews and they are the worst enemy of the Jews because they try to claim that they are "innocent poor persecuted Jews" who are only defending themselves and only occupying Israel because they need a "safe haven" to live. Yet their "safe" place is surrounded by their enemies which they have created themselves by their own aggressive violent actions of conquest and war. And they have people like you who continue to aid them in blurring the distinction between a corrupt criminal Zionist movement and all other Jewish people of the world. You are not doing the Jewish people any favors. Millions of Jews live in America and people are not out there trying to kill them. Yet the Jews in Israel are screaming and crying that everyone around them wants to annihilate them. I am through reading or responding to your posts. You are close to accusing me of being anti-Semitic and nothing could be further from the truth. Yes, there are all sorts of Jews but to say the Jews in America are safe is wrong. Jews worldwide have to suffer antisemitic attacks and there was one in Brooklyn just yesterday. Jewish graves desecrated is one that comes to mind. Antisemitism hasn't stopped. I know you have been wondering of the whys and wherefores as to why but it is most likely that Jews don't fight back and therefore are scapegoats. You have often mentioned "Yet their "safe" place is surrounded by their enemies which they have created themselves by their own aggressive violent actions of conquest and war." I wonder where you get your views of that from. The Jews were given the land just after World War 1, as it was their land from thousands of years ago. Of course you posted you don't believe in the existence of the historical facts of the Old Testament so basically you really do not know or have sympathy for the Jews at all do you. Never mind - thank goodness there are plenty that do and you are in the minority. So are you saying that sympathy is what Jews want? Really? Why? What do they gain by getting sympathy? Jews are just as safe in America as anyone else. Blacks are more persecuted for their race than Jews worldwide. Where do I get my views? From reading world news not just Zionist controlled media. Why should I have sympathy for Jews? They are no different from anyone else. Jews don't want sympathy. They want a cessation of the crap constantly thrown at them. They want to get on with their lives in peace without fear of hate from others. I certainly don't ask for sympathy. Then why did you accuse me of not having sympathy for the Jews? Why should I have sympathy for them? If they don't want sympathy then they should stop whining that they are persecuted and milking that to death. That is what Zionist movement does. They whine and cry that everyone is trying to destroy Israel. Yet they oppress their neighbors and steal land via conquest and war. They bomb Egypt and claim that they were about to be annihilated. That is a crock. They just wanted control of the area, which is what the six day war was all about. Empathy was the word I should have used, not sympathy. Now you see everyone of their neighbours does have the aim to destroy Israel. Rockets were launched from Lebanon into Israel yesterday, and from Gaza. Iran wants to destroy Israel. Egyptians are also crying for Israel's destruction. You do not seem to get this 1967 Egypt massing on Israel's borders. They were not massing on the border hoping to be invited round for tea - they were on the brink within a few hours of attacking, and you still feel Israel should have waited until Egypt was in Israeli territory before retaliating. No matter how many links of proof I and others give you you deny it because you simply don't want to believe it. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Thu 12/01/11 10:49 AM
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S1owhand, I have told you that I appose political movement called Zionism and that Zionism does NOT represent all Jews and yet you continue to completely ignore these statements and just rattle off a bunch of canned Zionist propaganda. You have argued that "Jews" are not a "race" and yet now you are lumping all Jews together as a race and comparing them to Blacks. Everyone knows that there are Jews with completely different genetic and ethnic backgrounds and they even discriminate against each other. Guess what? They even kill each other!! They are no different than anyone else. No surprize. There are both good and evil Jews. There are clearly anti-Zionist religious Jews and you refuse to listen or acknowledge that fact. There are even Jewish citizens living in Israel who are aware that their leadership and their government is corrupt, even evil. Jews for Jesus in Israel are treated as second class citizens. It is stupid to attempt to portray all Jews as good or bad, but that is what you are trying to suggest by lumping them all together. Jews, like anyone else, are individuals. Some good, some bad just like the rest of us. I would hate the world to judge all Americans because of our own corrupt leaders. Jews are decent good people and and yet there are vicious Zionists criminals who claim to be Jews and they are the worst enemy of the Jews because they try to claim that they are "innocent poor persecuted Jews" who are only defending themselves and only occupying Israel because they need a "safe haven" to live. Yet their "safe" place is surrounded by their enemies which they have created themselves by their own aggressive violent actions of conquest and war. And they have people like you who continue to aid them in blurring the distinction between a corrupt criminal Zionist movement and all other Jewish people of the world. You are not doing the Jewish people any favors. Millions of Jews live in America and people are not out there trying to kill them. Yet the Jews in Israel are screaming and crying that everyone around them wants to annihilate them. I am through reading or responding to your posts. You are close to accusing me of being anti-Semitic and nothing could be further from the truth. Yes, there are all sorts of Jews but to say the Jews in America are safe is wrong. Jews worldwide have to suffer antisemitic attacks and there was one in Brooklyn just yesterday. Jewish graves desecrated is one that comes to mind. Antisemitism hasn't stopped. I know you have been wondering of the whys and wherefores as to why but it is most likely that Jews don't fight back and therefore are scapegoats. You have often mentioned "Yet their "safe" place is surrounded by their enemies which they have created themselves by their own aggressive violent actions of conquest and war." I wonder where you get your views of that from. The Jews were given the land just after World War 1, as it was their land from thousands of years ago. Of course you posted you don't believe in the existence of the historical facts of the Old Testament so basically you really do not know or have sympathy for the Jews at all do you. Never mind - thank goodness there are plenty that do and you are in the minority. So are you saying that sympathy is what Jews want? Really? Why? What do they gain by getting sympathy? Jews are just as safe in America as anyone else. Blacks are more persecuted for their race than Jews worldwide. Where do I get my views? From reading world news not just Zionist controlled media. Why should I have sympathy for Jews? They are no different from anyone else. Jews don't want sympathy. They want a cessation of the crap constantly thrown at them. They want to get on with their lives in peace without fear of hate from others. I certainly don't ask for sympathy. Then why did you accuse me of not having sympathy for the Jews? Why should I have sympathy for them? If they don't want sympathy then they should stop whining that they are persecuted and milking that to death. That is what Zionist movement does. They whine and cry that everyone is trying to destroy Israel. Yet they oppress their neighbors and steal land via conquest and war. They bomb Egypt and claim that they were about to be annihilated. That is a crock. They just wanted control of the area, which is what the six day war was all about. Empathy was the word I should have used, not sympathy. Now you see everyone of their neighbours does have the aim to destroy Israel. Rockets were launched from Lebanon into Israel yesterday, and from Gaza. Iran wants to destroy Israel. Egyptians are also crying for Israel's destruction. You do not seem to get this 1967 Egypt massing on Israel's borders. They were not massing on the border hoping to be invited round for tea - they were on the brink within a few hours of attacking, and you still feel Israel should have waited until Egypt was in Israeli territory before retaliating. No matter how many links of proof I and others give you you deny it because you simply don't want to believe it. I have asked for proof that they were amassing at the borders of Israel and no one has offered any. If it were true, then the USS Liberty Spy ship would have known exactly what was going on as that ship picks up any and all kinds of electronic and radio communication. And yet, Israel attacked that ship and destroyed any evidence that there was no such massing at the borders. At no time was Israel in danger of annihilation. And by proof, I simply want real proof, not media spin, Lies and propaganda. Your use of the word "retaliating" is wrong. They were attacking. In order to retaliate, they first have to be attacked. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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If you live in a bad neighborhood where people are armed, you don't go across the street into their homes and kill people just because they have weapons and you are afraid they might use them on you.
That is NOT defense. And you certainly don't take control of their land and their homes and move in. That might happen in a primitive chaotic anarchy but it should not happen in a civilized world. |
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I have asked for proof that they were amassing at the borders of Israel and no one has offered any. If it were true, then the USS Liberty Spy ship would have known exactly what was going on as that ship picks up any and all kinds of electronic and radio communication. And yet, Israel attacked that ship and destroyed any evidence that there was no such massing at the borders. At no time was Israel in danger of annihilation. And by proof, I simply want real proof, not media spin, Lies and propaganda. Your use of the word "retaliating" is wrong. They were attacking. In order to retaliate, they first have to be attacked. All the proof you need: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War |
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I have asked for proof that they were amassing at the borders of Israel and no one has offered any. If it were true, then the USS Liberty Spy ship would have known exactly what was going on as that ship picks up any and all kinds of electronic and radio communication. And yet, Israel attacked that ship and destroyed any evidence that there was no such massing at the borders. At no time was Israel in danger of annihilation. And by proof, I simply want real proof, not media spin, Lies and propaganda. Your use of the word "retaliating" is wrong. They were attacking. In order to retaliate, they first have to be attacked. All the proof you need: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War That is a lot to read, have you read it? It sounds like the war was well planned and well practiced and that the agenda was not defense but the control of Jordan. In reading over it quickly, the first impression is that the Egyptians were defending themselves against an attack from Israel. The Egyptians had constructed fortified defenses in the Sinai. These designs were based on the assumption that an attack would come along the few roads leading through the desert, rather than through the difficult desert terrain. The Israelis chose not to risk attacking the Egyptian defenses head-on, and instead surprised them from an unexpected direction. They had practiced driving vehicles through soft dunes in the Negev, and discovered that vehicles would get greater maneuverability in desert terrain if tires were partially deflated. As a result, they could choose their angle of attack, and advance through areas the Egyptians least expected.
Israel sent in spies well in advance of the attack, long enough for trees to grow... In order to strike the Golan Heights, the Mossad (Israeli secret service) had sent agent Eli Cohen to infiltrate the Syrian government, where he exploited his high-ranking position to provide crucial intelligence.
Feigning sympathy for Syrian soldiers, he ordered trees planted by every Syrian emplacement to shade them. These trees were later used as targeting markers by the Israelis. Intelligence had revealed where the most difficult terrain was, so a route of attack was chosen that would avoid natural tank traps and surprise the Syrians. In order to successfully storm the Syrian bunkers, the Israelis used the Uzi submachine gun, which was more suitable for close combat than the AK-47, the standard weapon of the Syrian Army. This does not sound like "defense" to me. This sounds like Israeli storm troopers. Thanks for the link, to wiki. I will read is better later. |
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You're welcome. Wiki is good for facts. And as to your comments, when Israel was on the brink of anialation I consider they used their brains in this war. Remember, Israel is tiny and the surrounding nations had absolutely no idea they would be defeated which is why they boasted so much that Israel would very quickly be defeated. Some would call it good warfare on Israel's part and I would call it a miracle to win a war like that in six days.
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You're welcome. Wiki is good for facts. And as to your comments, when Israel was on the brink of anialation I consider they used their brains in this war. Remember, Israel is tiny and the surrounding nations had absolutely no idea they would be defeated which is why they boasted so much that Israel would very quickly be defeated. Some would call it good warfare on Israel's part and I would call it a miracle to win a war like that in six days. If they are smart then why do they use the excuse (lie) that attacking the USS Liberty was a "mistake?" 
I believe they are smart, and that they don't make stupid mistakes. I don't believe they were ever on the brink of annihilation. That is propaganda. The size of a country speaks nothing about their access to nuclear weapons and their outside support from America. No, they are not "tiny.." They could easily annihilate their neighbors with nuclear weapons. I think the surrounding nations boast because they are not so smart and they have their own national pride and propaganda going on. I think both sides were preparing for a war. I doubt if there was anything anyone could do to stop it. Everyone wants control of the holy land and the temple mount. All because of the mythical stories in the Bible. It is such a shame. |
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You're welcome. Wiki is good for facts. And as to your comments, when Israel was on the brink of anialation I consider they used their brains in this war. Remember, Israel is tiny and the surrounding nations had absolutely no idea they would be defeated which is why they boasted so much that Israel would very quickly be defeated. Some would call it good warfare on Israel's part and I would call it a miracle to win a war like that in six days. If they are smart then why do they use the excuse (lie) that attacking the USS Liberty was a "mistake?"
I believe they are smart, and that they don't make stupid mistakes. I don't believe they were ever on the brink of annihilation. That is propaganda. The size of a country speaks nothing about their access to nuclear weapons and their outside support from America. No, they are not "tiny.." They could easily annihilate their neighbors with nuclear weapons. I think the surrounding nations boast because they are not so smart and they have their own national pride and propaganda going on. I think both sides were preparing for a war. I doubt if there was anything anyone could do to stop it. Everyone wants control of the holy land and the temple mount. All because of the mythical stories in the Bible. It is such a shame. Their "access to nuclear weapons" has not been confirmed, but if Israel has nuclear weapons then it is as a deterrent, certainly a good deterrent to stop Iran striking into Israel. |
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and around and around and around we go again!
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and around and around and around we go again!
Yeah, ain't it fun 
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@ 5apphire What a ridiculous statement The Jews were given the land just after World War 1, as it was their land from thousands of years ago. America and Australia and New Zealand plus nearly every Country in the world should be handed back to its original inhabitants at that rate. You obviously have no idea of history. Probably best if you read up on it. Right, work beckons. I hope you get enlightened about historical facts, but I suppose you won't bother. You Go and Learn History and Tell it as you see it Go Tell it to the Māori Go tell it to The Aboriginal Indigenous Australians Go Tell it to the Indians.....Not the Cowboys Indigenous Australians are the original inhabitants of the Australian continent and nearby islands. The Aboriginal Indigenous Australians migrated from the Indian continent around 75,000 to 100,000 years ago. The Māori are the native or indigenous Polynesian people of New Zealand . And of course The Original Americans Apache . . . . . Cherokee . . . Chippewa . . . . . . Choctaw . . . . . Creek . . . . Iroquois . . . . Lumbee . . . . Navajo . . . . . . Pueblo . . . . . Sioux How did I DO? |
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You're welcome. Wiki is good for facts. And as to your comments, when Israel was on the brink of anialation I consider they used their brains in this war. Remember, Israel is tiny and the surrounding nations had absolutely no idea they would be defeated which is why they boasted so much that Israel would very quickly be defeated. Some would call it good warfare on Israel's part and I would call it a miracle to win a war like that in six days. If they are smart then why do they use the excuse (lie) that attacking the USS Liberty was a "mistake?"
I believe they are smart, and that they don't make stupid mistakes. I don't believe they were ever on the brink of annihilation. That is propaganda. The size of a country speaks nothing about their access to nuclear weapons and their outside support from America. No, they are not "tiny.." They could easily annihilate their neighbors with nuclear weapons. I think the surrounding nations boast because they are not so smart and they have their own national pride and propaganda going on. I think both sides were preparing for a war. I doubt if there was anything anyone could do to stop it. Everyone wants control of the holy land and the temple mount. All because of the mythical stories in the Bible. It is such a shame. Their "access to nuclear weapons" has not been confirmed, but if Israel has nuclear weapons then it is as a deterrent, certainly a good deterrent to stop Iran striking into Israel. Seriously? Israel definitely has nuclear weapons. |
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You're welcome. Wiki is good for facts. And as to your comments, when Israel was on the brink of anialation I consider they used their brains in this war. Remember, Israel is tiny and the surrounding nations had absolutely no idea they would be defeated which is why they boasted so much that Israel would very quickly be defeated. Some would call it good warfare on Israel's part and I would call it a miracle to win a war like that in six days. If they are smart then why do they use the excuse (lie) that attacking the USS Liberty was a "mistake?"
I believe they are smart, and that they don't make stupid mistakes. I don't believe they were ever on the brink of annihilation. That is propaganda. The size of a country speaks nothing about their access to nuclear weapons and their outside support from America. No, they are not "tiny.." They could easily annihilate their neighbors with nuclear weapons. I think the surrounding nations boast because they are not so smart and they have their own national pride and propaganda going on. I think both sides were preparing for a war. I doubt if there was anything anyone could do to stop it. Everyone wants control of the holy land and the temple mount. All because of the mythical stories in the Bible. It is such a shame. Their "access to nuclear weapons" has not been confirmed, but if Israel has nuclear weapons then it is as a deterrent, certainly a good deterrent to stop Iran striking into Israel. Seriously? Israel definitely has nuclear weapons. If you say so! |
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You're welcome. Wiki is good for facts. And as to your comments, when Israel was on the brink of anialation I consider they used their brains in this war. Remember, Israel is tiny and the surrounding nations had absolutely no idea they would be defeated which is why they boasted so much that Israel would very quickly be defeated. Some would call it good warfare on Israel's part and I would call it a miracle to win a war like that in six days. If they are smart then why do they use the excuse (lie) that attacking the USS Liberty was a "mistake?"
I believe they are smart, and that they don't make stupid mistakes. I don't believe they were ever on the brink of annihilation. That is propaganda. The size of a country speaks nothing about their access to nuclear weapons and their outside support from America. No, they are not "tiny.." They could easily annihilate their neighbors with nuclear weapons. I think the surrounding nations boast because they are not so smart and they have their own national pride and propaganda going on. I think both sides were preparing for a war. I doubt if there was anything anyone could do to stop it. Everyone wants control of the holy land and the temple mount. All because of the mythical stories in the Bible. It is such a shame. Their "access to nuclear weapons" has not been confirmed, but if Israel has nuclear weapons then it is as a deterrent, certainly a good deterrent to stop Iran striking into Israel. Seriously? Israel definitely has nuclear weapons. If you say so! So what have they got to be afraid of then???? |
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Israel is believed to possess the largest and most sophisticated arsenal outside of the five declared nuclear powers. Israel has never admitted possessing nuclear weapons, but abundant information is available showing that the capability exists.
http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Israel/Isrhist.html http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/israel/nuke/ http://www.wisconsinproject.org/countries/israel/nuke.html Today, Israel is the world's sixth most powerful nuclear state, with a stockpile of more than 100 nuclear weapons and with the components and ability to build atomic, neutron and hydrogen bombs. Israel's nuclear program began and still operates under tight secrecy, but in the 1980s a series of revelations showed the crucial role played by foreign suppliers. |
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Israel is believed to possess the largest and most sophisticated arsenal outside of the five declared nuclear powers. Israel has never admitted possessing nuclear weapons, but abundant information is available showing that the capability exists. http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Israel/Isrhist.html http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/israel/nuke/ http://www.wisconsinproject.org/countries/israel/nuke.html Today, Israel is the world's sixth most powerful nuclear state, with a stockpile of more than 100 nuclear weapons and with the components and ability to build atomic, neutron and hydrogen bombs. Israel's nuclear program began and still operates under tight secrecy, but in the 1980s a series of revelations showed the crucial role played by foreign suppliers. If that is true, and it is a big IF - Israel's never had intentions to world domination as has Islamic states including Iran and I can back that up. Radical Islam as I have said many times is the greatest threat to world peace. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Thu 12/01/11 01:50 PM
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Israel is believed to possess the largest and most sophisticated arsenal outside of the five declared nuclear powers. Israel has never admitted possessing nuclear weapons, but abundant information is available showing that the capability exists. http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Israel/Isrhist.html http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/israel/nuke/ http://www.wisconsinproject.org/countries/israel/nuke.html Today, Israel is the world's sixth most powerful nuclear state, with a stockpile of more than 100 nuclear weapons and with the components and ability to build atomic, neutron and hydrogen bombs. Israel's nuclear program began and still operates under tight secrecy, but in the 1980s a series of revelations showed the crucial role played by foreign suppliers. If that is true, and it is a big IF - Israel's never had intentions to world domination as has Islamic states including Iran and I can back that up. Radical Islam as I have said many times is the greatest threat to world peace. It is not a big If. I am 99.99% certain that Israel is well equipped with nuclear weapons. I see no reason to suspect otherwise. Not all Islam is "radical." But if they had nuclear weapons, they would probably use them given that they are fighting with Israel and are massively out gunned and out maneuvered. I think all of the crazy zealots who are following an Abrahamic religion would like to "take over the world" and convert everyone to their beliefs. They have been doing it for hundreds of years. The core of all world conflict always seems to be grounded in religion and the mythical Bible, including the silly idea that Jews are God's chosen people. I just don't believe any of the Bible has any truth to it whatsoever. |
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