Topic: what guys really commit to....
Ruth34611's photo
Sun 11/13/11 05:35 PM

I think well done tattoos are awesome.


I do, too. I got one and that's all I want. But, I have never regretted getting it.

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Sun 11/13/11 05:36 PM


Yay...I love when I belong. laugh drinker :banana:


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Sun 11/13/11 05:36 PM


I think well done tattoos are awesome.


I do, too. I got one and that's all I want. But, I have never regretted getting it.


Good. There's on reason to regret it. If someone has a problem with it, that's their issue.

stefy's photo
Sun 11/13/11 05:36 PM
I love my tattoo! I am actually getting another one in two weeks.

navygirl's photo
Sun 11/13/11 05:47 PM
I guess how I look at it is that I won't dress, act, or look a certain way to attract a man. If I can't be accepted for who I am, then a guy needs to move on. Should I suddenly act like I can't do things for myself merely to appease a man's ego? I get this advice all the time. Women are telling me to lie to the man; pretend to be something I am not. I find it sad that this is the cornerstone of relationships but from what I am seeing; its been like that for years. When I say its lying; they say its just a white lie so its okay. No matter how hard I try to wrap my head around that; I just can't get behind that concept.

Ruth34611's photo
Sun 11/13/11 05:51 PM

I love my tattoo! I am actually getting another one in two weeks.


What are you going to get?

Ruth34611's photo
Sun 11/13/11 05:54 PM

I guess how I look at it is that I won't dress, act, or look a certain way to attract a man. If I can't be accepted for who I am, then a guy needs to move on. Should I suddenly act like I can't do things for myself merely to appease a man's ego? I get this advice all the time. Women are telling me to lie to the man; pretend to be something I am not. I find it sad that this is the cornerstone of relationships but from what I am seeing; its been like that for years. When I say its lying; they say its just a white lie so its okay. No matter how hard I try to wrap my head around that; I just can't get behind that concept.


I agree for the most part. But, I also think this can be taken to the extreme (not saying you are....just talking in general) when people seriously let themselves go and say "Well, if he/she loved me it shouldn't matter that I gained 100 pounds and look like a slob." I think it's important for both sides to take a reasonable amount of care with their appearance for their partner.

And, of course it's important to be financially reasonable. My ex drove us into the ground with new cars and hunting trips. That'll break a marriage just as fast as anything.

Anyway, as with all things there needs to be a balance.

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Sun 11/13/11 06:05 PM


I guess how I look at it is that I won't dress, act, or look a certain way to attract a man. If I can't be accepted for who I am, then a guy needs to move on. Should I suddenly act like I can't do things for myself merely to appease a man's ego? I get this advice all the time. Women are telling me to lie to the man; pretend to be something I am not. I find it sad that this is the cornerstone of relationships but from what I am seeing; its been like that for years. When I say its lying; they say its just a white lie so its okay. No matter how hard I try to wrap my head around that; I just can't get behind that concept.


I agree for the most part. But, I also think this can be taken to the extreme (not saying you are....just talking in general) when people seriously let themselves go and say "Well, if he/she loved me it shouldn't matter that I gained 100 pounds and look like a slob." I think it's important for both sides to take a reasonable amount of care with their appearance for their partner.

And, of course it's important to be financially reasonable. My ex drove us into the ground with new cars and hunting trips. That'll break a marriage just as fast as anything.

Anyway, as with all things there needs to be a balance.


I wear what I want to wear - things I like, but I do want to be attractive to a man...that's not THE reason I wear what I wear, but if I am going on a date I will definitely take into account his POV & what he likes

I guess I cannot understand not wanting to be attractive to a man

navygirl's photo
Sun 11/13/11 06:06 PM


I guess how I look at it is that I won't dress, act, or look a certain way to attract a man. If I can't be accepted for who I am, then a guy needs to move on. Should I suddenly act like I can't do things for myself merely to appease a man's ego? I get this advice all the time. Women are telling me to lie to the man; pretend to be something I am not. I find it sad that this is the cornerstone of relationships but from what I am seeing; its been like that for years. When I say its lying; they say its just a white lie so its okay. No matter how hard I try to wrap my head around that; I just can't get behind that concept.


I agree for the most part. But, I also think this can be taken to the extreme (not saying you are....just talking in general) when people seriously let themselves go and say "Well, if he/she loved me it shouldn't matter that I gained 100 pounds and look like a slob." I think it's important for both sides to take a reasonable amount of care with their appearance for their partner.

And, of course it's important to be financially reasonable. My ex drove us into the ground with new cars and hunting trips. That'll break a marriage just as fast as anything.

Anyway, as with all things there needs to be a balance.


Oh I totally agree there are extremes as you mentioned and there certainly has to be a balance; but I was talking about initial attraction of someone; not really talking about a couple who have been together for a while.

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Sun 11/13/11 06:07 PM

I'm still wondering what makes a woman a tramp. Is it sleeping with someone too quickly? If so, what is too quickly? Is it sleeping with too many men? If so, what's too many?


what makes a man a tramp? frankly I don;t want the wick that's been dipped in every bucket

just sayin'

Ruth34611's photo
Sun 11/13/11 06:11 PM


Oh I totally agree there are extremes as you mentioned and there certainly has to be a balance; but I was talking about initial attraction of someone; not really talking about a couple who have been together for a while.


:thumbsup:

stefy's photo
Sun 11/13/11 06:13 PM


I love my tattoo! I am actually getting another one in two weeks.


What are you going to get?

A heartagram!:smile:

Ruth34611's photo
Sun 11/13/11 06:13 PM


I'm still wondering what makes a woman a tramp. Is it sleeping with someone too quickly? If so, what is too quickly? Is it sleeping with too many men? If so, what's too many?


what makes a man a tramp? frankly I don;t want the wick that's been dipped in every bucket

just sayin'


I've known (not in the Biblical sense) guys like that. I've worked with cops who would have sex with ANYONE and it was definitely gross.

navygirl's photo
Sun 11/13/11 06:14 PM



I guess how I look at it is that I won't dress, act, or look a certain way to attract a man. If I can't be accepted for who I am, then a guy needs to move on. Should I suddenly act like I can't do things for myself merely to appease a man's ego? I get this advice all the time. Women are telling me to lie to the man; pretend to be something I am not. I find it sad that this is the cornerstone of relationships but from what I am seeing; its been like that for years. When I say its lying; they say its just a white lie so its okay. No matter how hard I try to wrap my head around that; I just can't get behind that concept.


I agree for the most part. But, I also think this can be taken to the extreme (not saying you are....just talking in general) when people seriously let themselves go and say "Well, if he/she loved me it shouldn't matter that I gained 100 pounds and look like a slob." I think it's important for both sides to take a reasonable amount of care with their appearance for their partner.

And, of course it's important to be financially reasonable. My ex drove us into the ground with new cars and hunting trips. That'll break a marriage just as fast as anything.

Anyway, as with all things there needs to be a balance.


I wear what I want to wear - things I like, but I do want to be attractive to a man...that's not THE reason I wear what I wear, but if I am going on a date I will definitely take into account his POV & what he likes

I guess I cannot understand not wanting to be attractive to a man


I guess with me; I have to dress in what is comfortable for me and appropriate for the occassion. I met guys that wanted me to wear mini skirts and spike heels to a symphony as that is what they preferred but that isn't the way I dress as well it is very inappropriate for the symphony. Then they try to make me feel bad by not dressing for them. So, if a guy thinks I am unattractive to him because of that; then so be it.

Optomistic69's photo
Sun 11/13/11 06:14 PM
Edited by Optomistic69 on Sun 11/13/11 06:16 PM

I guess how I look at it is that I won't dress, act, or look a certain way to attract a man. If I can't be accepted for who I am, then a guy needs to move on. Should I suddenly act like I can't do things for myself merely to appease a man's ego? I get this advice all the time. Women are telling me to lie to the man; pretend to be something I am not. I find it sad that this is the cornerstone of relationships but from what I am seeing; its been like that for years. When I say its lying; they say its just a white lie so its okay. No matter how hard I try to wrap my head around that; I just can't get behind that concept.


Good for you...stick to your beliefs.drinker



To thine own self be true..Hamlet

There are some women who are all things to all mendrinker

Ruth34611's photo
Sun 11/13/11 06:15 PM



I love my tattoo! I am actually getting another one in two weeks.


What are you going to get?

A heartagram!:smile:


I had to google it. laugh Very nice!

I have a triquetra. One day, maybe, I'll add some color to it.

navygirl's photo
Sun 11/13/11 06:16 PM


I guess how I look at it is that I won't dress, act, or look a certain way to attract a man. If I can't be accepted for who I am, then a guy needs to move on. Should I suddenly act like I can't do things for myself merely to appease a man's ego? I get this advice all the time. Women are telling me to lie to the man; pretend to be something I am not. I find it sad that this is the cornerstone of relationships but from what I am seeing; its been like that for years. When I say its lying; they say its just a white lie so its okay. No matter how hard I try to wrap my head around that; I just can't get behind that concept.


Good for you...stick to your beliefs.drinker

To thine own self be true..Hamlet


Yes, those are words to live by. :thumbsup:

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Sun 11/13/11 06:21 PM


I'm still wondering what makes a woman a tramp. Is it sleeping with someone too quickly? If so, what is too quickly? Is it sleeping with too many men? If so, what's too many?


what makes a man a tramp? frankly I don;t want the wick that's been dipped in every bucket

just sayin'


Do you ask a man how many sexual partners he's had before you have sex with him?

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Sun 11/13/11 06:22 PM




I love my tattoo! I am actually getting another one in two weeks.


What are you going to get?

A heartagram!:smile:


I had to google it. laugh Very nice!

I have a triquetra. One day, maybe, I'll add some color to it.


I had to google both of those, but they look really cool.

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Mon 11/14/11 06:26 AM


I'm still wondering what makes a woman a tramp. Is it sleeping with someone too quickly? If so, what is too quickly? Is it sleeping with too many men? If so, what's too many?


what makes a man a tramp? frankly I don;t want the wick that's been dipped in every bucket

just sayin'

I like your preference. But like someone said, 'how many is too many?'