Most of what is written in this thread, done not

line up with what the bible says at all.


Best way to always get the true biblical account...is to go

straight to the source itself....the B.I.B.L.E.....not man.

The "dogma" of religions is a good opportunity to spread the knowledge of this belief to many people. This also helps in it not being altered by misunderstandings or anything of such. The faith isn't being placed in the "dogma". The faith is being placed in the knowledge it possesses.

Ooo sorry can't resist this one

While the bible does have merit as both a historical document and a coded book of instruction it has one fundamental flaw. Its purpose in being written was to confuse, mis-inform and mis-lead those not privvy to its hidden meanings.

In truth there will be no final destruction. What is coming is the time of the soul harvest. As the our solar system moves through the great cycle into the time of the great winter solstice so the energies which come through the continuum and the light means our planet will experience great upheaval. It's no coincidence that this is also a time of great human negativity encouraged and to a certain extent created by the house of Lucifer ( meaning Light Bringer ). This is a nescersary condition of the time due to Yahweh our logos ( Local god ) creating us without free will. It's Lucifers job to give us that free will by manipulating the six disciplines of life and encouraging us to adopt confrontational attitudes in order to spread aggression, despair and misery. It's our duty to use our free will to refuse these conditions and understand that it is unconditional love for our fellow man and selfless thought / action which will help us to ascend to what most think of as heaven. Our souls will be harvested according to the lights of our chakras or spiritual centers which reflect our level of understanding and love for each other and the infinite creator. Those who make the grade ascend to the next level and those who don't move sideways to another incarnation on this level and continue to do so until they learn enough to ascend. The good news? You only have to be more light ( good ) than dark ( bad ) and guess what???? There is no such thing as evil. This is another phallacy to reinforce fear in order to create the negativity I referred to earlier. Our only true purpose in life is to give the infinite creator experience of himself in order that he know himself. In this way we see we are all one and each of us a tiny part of the infinite creator contributing to the whole. It therefore follows that we are all eternal spirits inhabiting a body of clay in order to create catalyst from which to learn and enlighten ourselves.

Isn't life wonderful

True biblical account...

Let take Revelations... and Jerimahia.

Both are the foward look through time at the authors 'glimpse' of their 'now'.

Both are projected by that perception of 'now' and how it would move foward.

Yet 'now' is a moving event and introduces many fluctuations on the probabilities foward.

If a major conditional 'thread' within each prophesied 'projection' was removed... That 'projection' would no longer be valid.

Remove the Beast of War from the Earth and such dire predictions will not come true.

(such action would require most of the humans on the planet to become adults and quit allowing the children to squabble)

Eternal Spirits. where Has Yahweh Elohim as ( Logos) greek Hebrew mixure of words that are different, but mainly I would ask you in your 5 decades where Eternal spirits of us is a given?

also why is ( Lucifer) a Latin greek mixure that is nowhere to be found in the Tanak or Hebrew scriptures of the OT as light bringer, ever accepted by modern scholars who monitor themselves? Blessings..Miles

Well in my Lakota religion the father is the heavans and the mother is the earth that brings a guidance in life. Nature is the driving force on Earth that Mankind is distroying In the name of God! Nature is our church and there is no collection plates except to benifit your fellow man. My native brothers and sisters had Christianity forced on us by the Catholic church and our lands were stolen in the name of "progress", so does the Bible condone slavery and stealing as they did to my people? the day all churches are made into centers to help the poor and Priests and Pastors get payed only in the satisfaction of helping mankind is the day I might look an say they are truly Gods People!!

Wow the abrahamic God is one mean S.O.B i think i'll stick to my freethinking.

God Gave the The Holy Spirit to Believers....to Lead

and Guide them into All Truth.

But even for the Unbeliever , enough of God's Word is able to be

Understood ,in order that the Unbeliever may Hear and Recieve

the Basic Truth of God's Word.

The Basic Truths of the Bible are written, so that even a

child may understand.

But the deeper things of God are revealed to the

Believer..and becomes his daily bread...as the the Holy

Spirit living in him now,becomes his Teacher.....and Leads and

Guides him into All Truth.

Adventurebegins...God is a NOW God.

God's Word is the Same....

Yesterday, Today, and Forever.


God's Word Shall Never Pass Away.


God's Word is the Same for Every Generation....

and Speaks to Every Generation.


God is a NOW God.....

as Can be Seen here in His Word:


"NOW Faith is the Substance of Things Hoped For, and the Evidence

of Things Not Yet Seen...."

Well in my Lakota religion the father is the heavans and the mother is the earth that brings a guidance in life. Nature is the driving force on Earth that Mankind is distroying In the name of God! Nature is our church and there is no collection plates except to benifit your fellow man. My native brothers and sisters had Christianity forced on us by the Catholic church and our lands were stolen in the name of "progress", so does the Bible condone slavery and stealing as they did to my people? the day all churches are made into centers to help the poor and Priests and Pastors get payed only in the satisfaction of helping mankind is the day I might look an say they are truly Gods People!!

So many different beliefs, so many justifications for those beleifs, but in the end there is only one source of those beleifs - the FAITH an individual places in the beliefs on which they have chosen to base their value systems upon.

What I can't figure out is why every individual includes in their value system the need to defend their particular dogma when it is their faith that is the source of the dogma. Faith is defensible but the dogma is not.

Faith is benign, dogma is malignant but too many people reason that dogma is necessary to have faith but when one has faith there should be no reason for dogma.

Ok, let me see if I understand this. Prophacy about the so-called 'end-times' occurrs according to some set seriers of events. The course of these events can be stretched over an unknown period of time.

All of the events MUST take place and must occur in the order of which they are foretold.

But at anytime during the course of these events unfolding, humans can become aware that they are witnessing the end times and they change something which then changes the outcome.

However, in the avoidance of the end times the prophecy was not fulfilled so humans are forced to repeat this series of events over and over until the sequence has been completed because, as all good believers know, prophecy MUST necessarily be fulfilled or it has failed - right?

So if we forced to repeat the whole series of events until completion ... well there we go messing with free will again.

Can we just make up our minds - either we are free or we are controlled...

That we are eternal spirits is obvious when it is considered that we are all individual parts of the whole. We create our own lives through thought and in that manner reflect the power of the infinite creator though in a lesser degree.

I'm confused by your use of the term 'Yahweh Elohim' as it's my understading that Yahweh being the logos that created this area of the space / time contiuum is seperate and distinct from the Elohim who were the first race of beings genetically adapted by the Nephilim after being 'thrown down' the second being the Adams and Eves. Incidentally for the Nephilim read House of Lucifer Miles. Also bear in mind that they were 'thrown down' long before any of the written languages had been developed.

Look at the woods instead of the trees and you see so many common elements in all the different societies and races of Earth that it raises the question why? The obvious answer is that all of them had a common ancestry in history so ancient that there are few traces left. Any that are found are quickly hidden away in order to maintain the status quo.

Be well in the Light my friend.