What are you doing other than complaining since you refuse to vote?

If my vote isn't gonna change a damn thing, what the hell is the point? Until people completely stop voting for either side of the left-right paradigm, nothing is going to change. That is the only way anything will ever get better. The status quo simply does not work.

Until we realize that, it doesn't matter what myself or others who think like me may think, because there isn't enough of us. Hell even if there was, I wouldn't be surprised if they STILL found a way to fix the damn elections.

Fact is, the system is flat out broken.

You didn't answer the question. I didn't ask about your vote changing anything. I asked what you were doing. So, what are you doing to change things?

Well for one, I'm trying to educate people. People are blissfully unaware of what is actually happening around them. They need to know the truth of who really runs things. That's really where any change is gonna start, is through education. Until we know our enemy, we won't be able to fix anything. Many still don't. As the saying goes, we perish for our lack of knowledge. Nowhere else is that as true as it is today.

Except you don't post truth on here. You post your opinion.

I am quoting you here too sing but I am answering the previous.

Hell yea if you don't vote you need to STFU and STFD about politics in general. Your opinion doesn't matter if you don't vote. You accept whatever screwing comes your way and best like it cause you didn't even try to stop it.

As for voting we are all at the whim of the people who we vote for.

I knew that Obama was going to have hell to pay with what he inherited but he was the best choice.

He isn't perfect.

I am fighting against the white racists in this country who vote their way, the uber rich who vote their way, the fanatic religious who vote their way, the "tax cut" "stick in the mud Barneys" who vote their way, etc... but I am giving it all I can to make this country the best it can be.

No vote, no voice. Period.

So again this counts if your county didn't allow you to chose from all running candidates and also didn't offer a write in option? IMO that is different than just not voting. I wanted to vote, I had a candidate I wanted to vote for, my county didn't allow me to make that vote and I didn't wish to vote for the other options.

Why didnt they allow you to votefor who you wanted?

They didn't have him on the ballet and they didn't offer a write in option. I don't know why. Thats how my county was.

We all have to choose the best of what is offered us if we do not have the option to write it in, I would think. In your situation I would have petitioned to get a write in option on the ballet so I could write in who I want.

Especially since the vote is our voice not the only voice we have but it is our deciding voice.

So what you are saying is I should have taken personal time from work to cast a meaningless vote for McCain who I didn't like but would rather than Obama in one of the bluest states in the country? Personally I would rather just work.

They had a rally in Houston today. I didn't go.

No it's the facts, and any bit of research will prove as much. It doesn't matter whether anyone agrees with me or not, it is what it is regardless. Matter of opinion it simply is not.

Except it's really not, the elections are fixed. It really means jack what we think. They'll put whomever they want in office no matter what we say. There's a reason Paul is not being given a fair chance, and it's not because he's crazy. It's the exact opposite. He's a threat to the balance of power, as such he cannot be allowed a fair shot.

Oh and further, a "choice" between the lesser of two evils is not really a choice. If I don't like either candidate given me and I have no other option, than I'm not voting. I refuse to accept anything less than my own right to pick whom I want. If I can't do that, I won't pick anyone. Screw it.

This is the entire problem with the system, we are always given this choice, as I said puppet a, or puppet b. If I don't like either one, why should I vote for them? What's the point? There isn't one.

It's the same reason I don't see much point in voting for anyone else, because in the end it's not gonna change anything if so many others are still asleep and voting for the left-right paradigm that hasn't and won't change a damn thing. If I saw any proof that everyone would be given a fair shot, and that enough people were awake to where a change could actually happen I might think different. But I'm not holding my breath.

I've said before and I will say it again now, the ONLY way anything will ever change is if we STOP voting by party, or voting for any of these Republican and the Democrat puppets. They are the same thing, one party under the guise of two. So long as we keep voting like we are, nothing will ever change but for the worse.

I don't think a protest, peaceful or otherwise, will accomplish much.

Your pictures will probably be taken and you could end up on a list of possible dissenters who are protesting globalization and capitalization. (Don't give anyone your name if you want to remain anonymous, and don't get arrested and fingerprinted.)

This is what I would do before I got involved in any movement. I would investigate the people who are behind the movement -- and I mean really investigate!

Find out what they hope to accomplish and HOW they think they will accomplish it.

Do you really think that globalist billionaires and international bankers care what a few underpaid protesters want?

They don't. They will keep doing what they are doing and pretend they care. They don't.

So these people are going to "come up with just and sustainable solutions to the crises we face and demand that these solutions be presented and that the people's needs be addressed."

Really? Do you think that will work?

It sounds like an invitation to a riot to me. I'll pass.

What would you do then Jeannie?

Covert infiltration.

Stop paying taxes, stop getting loans, stop spending money. Use trade and barter, grow a garden, be as independent as possible.

I must say my time at "Stop the Machine! Create a New World! AKA www.october2011.org was enlightening, inspiring & empowering. I am attending Occupy Seattle now in my free time. Yes...I do have a job as a social worker in a non-profit healthcare facility. You CAN protest & work, too. We still have the right to ffreedom of speech. We need to use it. If you don't change your path, your path won't change. I don't like America's path anymore (corporate greed, political corruption, etc.)...so I occupy! Join me...it's liberating!