Topic: I met him here...he seemed jsut right 4 me
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Sat 09/03/11 07:05 PM

life is full of risk,whether your dating online or in real life..the true test that we take is moving in together...just because you date someone for a while doesnt mean that they will be easy to live with.

living with and dating are two serperate issues,issues that can change the way people view each other..most of the time you dont know what an insensitive guy your with till he cant get the simple hint to keep the toilet seat down.its a snowball effect,one thing that ticks you off that he does,turns into 10 things that you hate,and most often come out when you move in together.I think the trick is to date long enough and give your relatioship enough time so that your feelings are so strong that when you decide to live together,the little anoying thing dont matter that much over what your heart wants.

its a part of life,and there is no solution to this problem,you just have to take the chance and find out..but you would be surprised what you can live with.

or maybe he did change...but it was there all along and you didnt see it because you were blinded by the fact that he was an azzhole when you met him,just your type of azzhole.


jmo..tucker


ya but once the decision is made to move in together you KNOW that compromise will be needed - gotta suck it up and let the little stuff ride...

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Sun 09/04/11 12:54 AM

and he's totally different now. As soon as we moved in together, it started to become difficult. He was no longer on the up and up with his manorisms, appearance, or interests. It's so sad. Why do some people do this?


How long did you date before moving in together? Moving in together changes everything. Now there are no more completely alone time. You both have adjustments to make. Just like how some people get a very rude awakening when they don;t live together until after they're married. It takes away all mystery when you live with someone and some people after moving in figure "why try anymore".
My suggestion is have a sit down and talk it out. Good Luck with it.

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Sat 10/01/11 11:01 PM

it is like asking how many licks it takes to get to the center of a tootsie pop (the world may never know). i think the internet has opened doors for people who would not do well in social settings. they can pretend to be anything. once they come in contact with real people the jig is up and they have to be themselves. if you are still living under said conditions, you may want to get while the getting is good. sounds like things can only get worse. godspeed


I think you nailed it right there.... don't know why I didn't think of that myself... I'm supposed to be smart... guess love is blind as they say. Thanks for reminding me. You win the prize.

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Sat 10/01/11 11:07 PM


and he's totally different now. As soon as we moved in together, it started to become difficult. He was no longer on the up and up with his manorisms, appearance, or interests. It's so sad. Why do some people do this?


I'm with Motown on this and with your guy on this. A person needs to be able to relax in their own dwelling. Perhaps you moved in together too soon and maybe had u spent some more "informal" time together just "letting your hair down'....seeing what he looks like with mustard spilled on his boxers & his hair a mess - you'd be more ready now

accept him for who he is or leave. If I were the person u are talking about I'd be gone

I don;t want to be with someone who is not totally happy with me and I'm sure he doesn't either

I also agree with the krup man - this guy's job in life is to love u maybe but NOT to be responsible for your happiness - that comes from within


No no.... I guess I didn't give details... my bad... I'm not into long assed stories.
It's not about accepting him for who he is.... who he WAS is totally different. Do I have to explain? lol
I'm not talking about farting right out as aposed to holding it in. Hell, in my world... fart away I don't care... I'm talking about a TOTAL turn around. From day to night. THATS not cool.

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Sat 10/01/11 11:11 PM


life is full of risk,whether your dating online or in real life..the true test that we take is moving in together...just because you date someone for a while doesnt mean that they will be easy to live with.

living with and dating are two serperate issues,issues that can change the way people view each other..most of the time you dont know what an insensitive guy your with till he cant get the simple hint to keep the toilet seat down.its a snowball effect,one thing that ticks you off that he does,turns into 10 things that you hate,and most often come out when you move in together.I think the trick is to date long enough and give your relatioship enough time so that your feelings are so strong that when you decide to live together,the little anoying thing dont matter that much over what your heart wants.

its a part of life,and there is no solution to this problem,you just have to take the chance and find out..but you would be surprised what you can live with.

or maybe he did change...but it was there all along and you didnt see it because you were blinded by the fact that he was an azzhole when you met him,just your type of azzhole.


jmo..tucker


ya but once the decision is made to move in together you KNOW that compromise will be needed - gotta suck it up and let the little stuff ride...


Man... you're on the defense for my dood aren't you lol
NO ONE here is talking about "little stuff" in any way, shape, or form... I never implied it in beginning this thred.
I'm talking about total personality change... the "you're mine now" and "I don't have to put on my ACT anymore" attitude. This guy, started to TOTALLY ignore me, when he once doted on me. Was the life of the party... then became inverted and drawn to himself. This type of thing... like split personality stuff.

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Sun 10/02/11 01:07 AM

and he's totally different now. As soon as we moved in together, it started to become difficult. He was no longer on the up and up with his manorisms, appearance, or interests. It's so sad. Why do some people do this?

he obviously feels too comfortable(secure) with your relationship. do something to make him realize that just because you're with him it doesn't mean you have to stay with him.
people stop trying once they feel they've "won" or accomplished their goal. in his mind, he's won you. make it clear that he can be replaced if he doesn't start acting properly. and be willing to leave if he doesn't revert back to the way he was.
obviously there's going to be some level of comfort and some relaxing of mannerisms, nobody is going to be preened 24/7, but there has to be a line drawn.
unfortunately, even if he does change his behavior for the better, he'll likely get lazy again and you may have to repeat the process.


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Sun 10/02/11 01:48 AM


it is like asking how many licks it takes to get to the center of a tootsie pop (the world may never know). i think the internet has opened doors for people who would not do well in social settings. they can pretend to be anything. once they come in contact with real people the jig is up and they have to be themselves. if you are still living under said conditions, you may want to get while the getting is good. sounds like things can only get worse. godspeed


I think you nailed it right there.... don't know why I didn't think of that myself... I'm supposed to be smart... guess love is blind as they say. Thanks for reminding me. You win the prize.


I win it to laugh ..because this is what I would of responded to your question...starting from I think the internet... right up to... be themselves

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Sun 10/02/11 02:49 AM

and he's totally different now. As soon as we moved in together, it started to become difficult. He was no longer on the up and up with his manorisms, appearance, or interests. It's so sad. Why do some people do this?


to give a fair answer i'd have to blow suds off a few cold ones with the guy. you know, hear his side of the story. you're buying the beer.

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Sun 10/02/11 02:53 AM
I understand putting in the extra effort to sweep a girl off her feet, but also to be quite geninuine behind that helps too. As for going as far as moving in with each other, then changing completely, it does sound like somebody was ignoring the signs. Anyone that fakes it from the start are only wasting their own time. It's pointless & in the end just lying to themselves.

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Sun 10/02/11 05:07 AM
Once a trophy is attained, it sets on the shelf for all to see.

Opinion; we forget that a relationship NEEDS to be worked at, EVERYDAY. Once living together or married, it is to easy to take things for granted & let life's daily worries divert our attention.
Learned from second marriage, we got help & were very glad we did.

You BOTH need to decide to work at it, OR????

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Sun 10/02/11 10:15 AM

Just an honest opinion...this party is over.

When a man is done trying...he is done trying.

Get him out or move out cause he will only regress.

You gave it a shot. At least you tried but, this post is THE RED FLAG.

Give yourself a fair shot instead of dragging out an unwinnable situation.

No one can make you happy but you girl. Your dude ain't doing it for you.


but krup, he shouldn't have to do it for her - happiness does come from within. I guess I'd wonder what her expectations were - had she never seen him in last Saturday's frumpy sweats before they moved in together? If not, they prolly moved in too soon.

Clearly I can keep myself looking like a fashion model for a date or even a weekend but my expectation would be that a man would realistically know that at home my hair gets messy and I wear jammy bottoms......and am not the world's most picky housekeeper & definitely would want people around me to be able to relax in their home....

So I guess as far as the OP, it would depend on the degree to which he had become too relaxed & abut what. But if it bothers her she will have to choose what she wants...

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Sun 10/02/11 10:19 AM



and he's totally different now. As soon as we moved in together, it started to become difficult. He was no longer on the up and up with his manorisms, appearance, or interests. It's so sad. Why do some people do this?


I'm with Motown on this and with your guy on this. A person needs to be able to relax in their own dwelling. Perhaps you moved in together too soon and maybe had u spent some more "informal" time together just "letting your hair down'....seeing what he looks like with mustard spilled on his boxers & his hair a mess - you'd be more ready now

accept him for who he is or leave. If I were the person u are talking about I'd be gone

I don;t want to be with someone who is not totally happy with me and I'm sure he doesn't either

I also agree with the krup man - this guy's job in life is to love u maybe but NOT to be responsible for your happiness - that comes from within


No no.... I guess I didn't give details... my bad... I'm not into long assed stories.
It's not about accepting him for who he is.... who he WAS is totally different. Do I have to explain? lol
I'm not talking about farting right out as aposed to holding it in. Hell, in my world... fart away I don't care... I'm talking about a TOTAL turn around. From day to night. THATS not cool.



I guess that's true. It's hard to say. But if you aren't happy that is the important thing. It is hard for me to understand how the signs were not there earlier? But actually I have also seen that happen - just over a longer period of time as my ex & I grew apart over the years, but that's a little different. To turn into someone else immediately is kinda weird.

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Sun 10/02/11 10:26 AM


Just an honest opinion...this party is over.

When a man is done trying...he is done trying.

Get him out or move out cause he will only regress.

You gave it a shot. At least you tried but, this post is THE RED FLAG.

Give yourself a fair shot instead of dragging out an unwinnable situation.

No one can make you happy but you girl. Your dude ain't doing it for you.


but krup, he shouldn't have to do it for her - happiness does come from within. I guess I'd wonder what her expectations were - had she never seen him in last Saturday's frumpy sweats before they moved in together? If not, they prolly moved in too soon.

Clearly I can keep myself looking like a fashion model for a date or even a weekend but my expectation would be that a man would realistically know that at home my hair gets messy and I wear jammy bottoms......and am not the world's most picky housekeeper & definitely would want people around me to be able to relax in their home....

So I guess as far as the OP, it would depend on the degree to which he had become too relaxed & abut what. But if it bothers her she will have to choose what she wants...


it doesnt sound like its little things tho... i fell for that scheme before as well (i posted about it in here)... The guy was great! treated me like gold, was honest and sweetn and all that.... until we moved in together and he decided to treat me like crap!...

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Sun 10/02/11 10:37 AM



Just an honest opinion...this party is over.

When a man is done trying...he is done trying.

Get him out or move out cause he will only regress.

You gave it a shot. At least you tried but, this post is THE RED FLAG.

Give yourself a fair shot instead of dragging out an unwinnable situation.

No one can make you happy but you girl. Your dude ain't doing it for you.


but krup, he shouldn't have to do it for her - happiness does come from within. I guess I'd wonder what her expectations were - had she never seen him in last Saturday's frumpy sweats before they moved in together? If not, they prolly moved in too soon.

Clearly I can keep myself looking like a fashion model for a date or even a weekend but my expectation would be that a man would realistically know that at home my hair gets messy and I wear jammy bottoms......and am not the world's most picky housekeeper & definitely would want people around me to be able to relax in their home....

So I guess as far as the OP, it would depend on the degree to which he had become too relaxed & abut what. But if it bothers her she will have to choose what she wants...


it doesnt sound like its little things tho... i fell for that scheme before as well (i posted about it in here)... The guy was great! treated me like gold, was honest and sweetn and all that.... until we moved in together and he decided to treat me like crap!...


ya I have never had that happen, but I think as I reread the thread I have a better idea of what she means. At first I thought she was talking about stuff like not keeping up his appearance, but it does seem to go a little deeper than that. I have really only had 1 other relationship for any length of time other than my marriage, and we didn't live together but we spent enough time together so that I know exactly what he'd be like to live with...a lot of fun probably but not too good on responsibility so if I had chosen to live with him, I'd have known that going into it....that is why I think maybe they co habitated too soon

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Sun 10/02/11 10:37 AM
Does Familiarity Breed Contempt?
Do you really believe that familiarity creates contempt?

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/shift-mind/201010/does-familiarity-breed-contempt

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Sun 10/02/11 11:31 AM
Happiness or a life together based on lies is a house of cards just waiting to be blown over. A person can be happy with themselves, yet, if someone comes along and lies to that person, all happiness is blown out the window. OP, only you can decide what you can and can not live with.

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Sun 10/02/11 12:51 PM


It is hard for me to understand how the signs were not there earlier? But actually I have also seen that happen - just over a longer period of time as my ex & I grew apart over the years, but that's a little different. To turn into someone else immediately is kinda weird.


You are correct. If you have not experienced it, it can be hard to beleive someone would be so dishonest. I know I was surprised when it happened to me.

It is about deceit. Not about accepting differences, and not about being responsible for your own happiness. This guy thinks if he can trick her into being with him, he's all set.

Like Krupa said...Get outta there.


yes intentionally deceiving someone for a hidden agenda of some sort is not what I was seeing - if that is what happened then yes, that is very weird

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Thu 01/24/13 09:20 AM
Edited by mountainwatergirl on Thu 01/24/13 09:34 AM
This thread is really old, but I think I forgot to come back and read these posts. All of them are very good to read, thank you.
I must say though, that I was not referring to small mannerisms that I couldn't tolerate like toilet seats and mustard dripped on boxers. lol
I was an extremely happy person when I met this guy. This is one of the things he said he fell in love with was my humor, and happy go lucky nature. I don't hang out with people for them to make me happy lol, they hang out with ME because I am happy and they want me to make them laugh and be happy.
I am talking about a total disregard of attention and affection. He professed and displayed a huge amount of love and affection, and expressed it openly. He was attentive and offered to buy all my friends their round of drinks etc. Then he moved in, and I found out he could squeeze a nickle till the buffalo poops, and rarely got up from his computer except to go to work and smoke. He took my company for granted for the next 3 years. Yes, I gave it that long because he kept telling me he understood what I was saying, and he would work on it. The compliance kept me hopeful. I had a very deep love and attraction for this man. So a very high tolerance to small things. I never complained much about small things. I told him to NOT worry about the toilet seat. I think it's funny when I don't look and fall in the bowl in the middle of the night. lmao.
He also had several very bad, hurtful addictions and was a convicted felon. I told him in the beginning what my boundaries were with porn, lies, betrayal, etc...he stepped over them all.
I did leave finally. But he is still after me. He says he wants to change, and gets impatient with me that I don't trust him now. wth?

I agree with one of the posters here that you have to roll the dice no matter what. You will not know what it's like to live with someone until you do. You can waste a year going slow to make sure it all fits, just to move in together and find out he's a big fat turd wrapped in a pretty paper. I don't like wasted time. I like to know right away who someone is inside. I don't want some fake crap to get used to just to have him pull out the con artist card.... And next time, if there is one, I will boot him out after 30 days of ignoring me.

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Thu 01/24/13 11:31 AM

and he's totally different now. As soon as we moved in together, it started to become difficult. He was no longer on the up and up with his manorisms, appearance, or interests. It's so sad. Why do some people do this?


Yes, that is sad. Men sometimes hide who they really are until you live with them. Women need to really get to know the man, test him out in many ways, the real self usually comes out in a few months, if you test him out. lol

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Thu 01/24/13 11:52 AM
Humans pretend a lot. It's something most if not all of us are guilty of.