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lol, exactly I remember when it was a 'given' that guys and girls start as friends now 'friend' is a putdown or a dirty word when guys hear it,,, ,,,changing times,, really? I don;t think there isa negative perception about being friends - maybe being "friend zoned" as a guy knows then that the woman isn;t interested romantically but the best romance starts with the foundation of a friendship I think which is why the friendship is important if you want something long term. I'd be cautious about a guy who dissed a friendship - he's a player then and not boyfriend material IMO |
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My thought is, if I am interested in a woman and she would rather hang out with some other male "friend" rather than me, then she is not that interested in me or is just shopping around. that would be my perception also if the shoe was on the other foot... |
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My thought is, if I am interested in a woman and she would rather hang out with some other male "friend" rather than me, then she is not that interested in me or is just shopping around. excuse my ditziness(please remember I havent been out in over a decade,,lol) when you say 'interested' in,,can you explain that a bit further... from my personal experience, I am totally capable of being 'interested' in more than one person at a time,,but at some point that 'interest' becomes more than just an interest for example, had a friend who loved to dance, I was interested in him because he was cool to go dancing with had another friend who was merely a friend, I had no interest in pursuing romance nor did he (to the best of my knowledge), I could totally depend upon him and trust him and talk to him about anything of all my friends(of any gender) I had known him the longest(more than ten years) had another friend who played guitar, I was interested in him because he had cool jam sessions had another friend that knew my family a while, I Was interested in him because we spent alot of time in the same environment and he made ma laugh,,, I wasnt intimate with any (initially) because we were only 'friends', we didnt even do the kissing thing during the 'friend' phase,, but once one became more than a friend (the family acquaintance),,, I cut out seeing all those other 'interests'. but not my friend who I had known for over a decade do you think the average guy would have an issue with me still spending time (much much less time, obviously) with my friend of ten years? The family acquintance didnt seem to worry about it. |
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so, heres the deal I was with ONE man the past ten years, and I wasnt with him very often. I have two children(one is over 18 the other a toddler) who I am pretty determined to raise in a certain way. I also feel any future partner would have to be on board with me in raising whatever children were in our home TOGETHER, regardless of biology. Now, cut to the chase. I am considering doing the whole 'dating' thing again next year after I am moved, and starting over. I am completely CLUELESS about the expectations these days though. So my question is more a request for opinions. I know I want to start as 'friends', but I dont plan to limit myself to making only one friend. How do men usually view the situation of a female having more than one male friend? Would a guy that was interested in a female generally change his mind about pursuing a relationship if he found that she was the 'type' with multiple male friends? How does a guy usually bring up the topic 'I want to be mutually exclusive' and does that apply only once a relationship is intimate, or do guys generally like to be the only one the girl spends any time with? I dont like to generalise in such matters.guy/girl any opinionated person wont like to see anything that he dont like into/with his partner. Now to my personal opinion I'll certainly expect my partner to be loyal in anticipation & equally interested in me.If I found she is much more interested in & attracted to anyone else by any means then it will be a worst turn off for me & I cant live with her any more if she isnt able to refrain herself from it.I'm a peaceloving person,I'll get away silently & will even help her if she wish me to in building new relationship with the person she want. |
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oh, I see.
hmmm, How do you tell when you have met someone who feels that way or someone (like me) who feels interested just means 'takes an interest in' |
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Edited by
sweetestgirl11
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Sat 08/27/11 11:22 AM
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My thought is, if I am interested in a woman and she would rather hang out with some other male "friend" rather than me, then she is not that interested in me or is just shopping around. excuse my ditziness(please remember I havent been out in over a decade,,lol) when you say 'interested' in,,can you explain that a bit further... from my personal experience, I am totally capable of being 'interested' in more than one person at a time,,but at some point that 'interest' becomes more than just an interest for example, had a friend who loved to dance, I was interested in him because he was cool to go dancing with had another friend who was merely a friend, I had no interest in pursuing romance nor did he (to the best of my knowledge), I could totally depend upon him and trust him and talk to him about anything of all my friends(of any gender) I had known him the longest(more than ten years) had another friend who played guitar, I was interested in him because he had cool jam sessions had another friend that knew my family a while, I Was interested in him because we spent alot of time in the same environment and he made ma laugh,,, I wasnt intimate with any (initially) because we were only 'friends', we didnt even do the kissing thing during the 'friend' phase,, but once one became more than a friend (the family acquaintance),,, I cut out seeing all those other 'interests'. but not my friend who I had known for over a decade do you think the average guy would have an issue with me still spending time (much much less time, obviously) with my friend of ten years? The family acquintance didnt seem to worry about it. well we are generalizing a little in our responses probably - I know I am - for brevity sake but it would probably depend on how well you know each other and the nature of the friendship - if my guy talked with an old family friend now & then and I knew about it....we had been introduced...we all all knew each other fairly well....that's different than him, say, striking up convos with random bar slags = totally unacceptable so ya I think all situations are a little unique but at the same time, it doesn;t hurt to have general guidelines |
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oh, I see. hmmm, How do you tell when you have met someone who feels that way or someone (like me) who feels interested just means 'takes an interest in' My partner to be a tastefull person in cultured manner will be a great delight for me,She being interested / impressed with art,music etc. etc. upto being a fan level will be alright for me but if she wish to go beyond limit,she will have to lose me. Being associated with me she must have found something interesting in me before,I'll certainly like to know (if she wish to let me know)what was that & is it not there now.I'll openly tell her my feelings that I've gr8 attraction for her & I expect her to be equally coupled with me,that her excessive emotional involvement with her friend is irritating me.If she is expecting any changes in me I will certainly try to excercise for the same; but if she is over & out then I'll guide her upto HIS GATE. |
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yup pretty much agree klc
but until the intimacy equation comes up (no pun intended ![]() I look for: Does he gravitate to me, for example, even when we are not romantically linked? want to spend time with me even tho it might not - or probably won't mean sex? The sexual thing is big for me too, but I know he can get that anywhere. I want him to want it only with me because I have been his good friend to become his best friend, then |
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oh, I see. hmmm, How do you tell when you have met someone who feels that way or someone (like me) who feels interested just means 'takes an interest in' My partner to be a tastefull person in cultured manner will be a great delight for me,She being interested / impressed with art,music etc. etc. upto being a fan level will be alright for me but if she wish to go beyond limit,she will have to lose me. Being associated with me she must have found something interesting in me before,I'll certainly like to know (if she wish to let me know)what was that & is it not there now.I'll openly tell her my feelings that I've gr8 attraction for her & I expect her to be equally coupled with me,that her excessive emotional involvement with her friend is irritating me.If she is expecting any changes in me I will certainly try to excercise for the same; but if she is over & out then I'll guide her upto HIS GATE. I respect that, and that type of communication would make it simpler. I just dont think most guys are communicating (or most girls) and they just expect the other to 'assume' certain things. To go out with a guy that clearly indicated what he could offer and what he wanted, would be refreshing, and open the door for me to do the same so we wouldnt have to 'assume'. |
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yup pretty much agree klc but until the intimacy equation comes up (no pun intended ![]() I look for: Does he gravitate to me, for example, even when we are not romantically linked? want to spend time with me even tho it might not - or probably won't mean sex? The sexual thing is big for me too, but I know he can get that anywhere. I want him to want it only with me because I have been his good friend to become his best friend, then I love this sweet,, especially 'want to spend time with me even tho it might not - or probably won't mean sex? ' |
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yup pretty much agree klc but until the intimacy equation comes up (no pun intended ![]() I look for: Does he gravitate to me, for example, even when we are not romantically linked? want to spend time with me even tho it might not - or probably won't mean sex? The sexual thing is big for me too, but I know he can get that anywhere. I want him to want it only with me because I have been his good friend to become his best friend, then I love this sweet,, especially 'want to spend time with me even tho it might not - or probably won't mean sex? ' thank you, and not that it will not mean sex eventually....once we have "chosen" each other. What I mean is, to me, sex means something special. I am very intense in that department. It's not meant for just anyone....or just any friend simply because we are friends. and men are wonderful friends even if there is a double standard sometimes when it comes to sex. I think after all is said and done, double standard or not, a wonderful man-partner wants to know that HE is special as much as we girls want to know that we are special to our man |
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It all really depends.
If the guy friend is shy, dumpy and a eunoch...go get an ice cream, laugh and hang out. If he is anything like me....I wouldn't trust him. |
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I think maybe an important factor here is individual trust
how much do you know and TRUST the person you are interested in,,,maybe there shouldnt be any romantic relationsihp if that isnt there first |
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I think maybe an important factor here is individual trust how much do you know and TRUST the person you are interested in,,,maybe there shouldnt be any romantic relationsihp if that isnt there first I think krupa was sayin he doesnt trust his competition (even if he's really not). If I was msHarmony's man, I would trust her entirely. I would be annoyed with the man who secretly wants to have you under the guise of friendship. He may even wink at me as he leaves with you. meh. lol,, I do expect my friends to respect my relationships and my partners,, so I would be correcting that if it happened,,, |
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Ya, but I dont kiss my friends. A lover to me is actually a friend who truly enjoys my company in every way. At times, they can be apart with independent interests...that we can share stories from, and enjoy each others company, some more. I think the separation of 'friend' and 'lover' is awkward. For me its happening at the same time. I would feel strange if I were attracted to this friend of mine without testing the kiss idea. When I look for a lover, it is a friend I seek, who can be more. Some people say, 'its all in the kiss'...I cant move forward into romance without it really. And I dont want to be 'frustrated' with an attraction while I continue to be just friends for any given period. If I kiss this friend, and there is a spark, I would not be calling my other guy friend to spend saturday nite with. And you can be dern sure I would be upset if he did that. disclaimer: I am currenly not involved, in love, or in friend with any prospects so take it all with a grain of salt please. That is to say: I know nothing, and feel my way in the dark as best I can. ![]() same here - I mean theoretically this is how I feel about things but the reality is sometimes a little different....in an evolving romantic relationship I doubt any of us has a carved in stone timetable...or set of rule - particularly when thinking with the heart |
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How would you feel if noticed that your man is every woman's man? Weigh the odds from both sides
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How would you feel if noticed that your man is every woman's man? Weigh the odds from both sides this is where the communication breaks down I dont assume because a male spends time with me that he is 'my man' do men assume spending time with them makes you 'their woman'? |
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when you say 'interested' in,,can you explain that a bit further... at some point that 'interest' becomes more than just an interest I wasnt intimate with any (initially) because we were only 'friends but once one became more than a friend, I cut out seeing all those other 'interests'. but not my friend who I had known for over a decade do you think the average guy would have an issue with me still spending time (much much less time, obviously) with my friend of ten years? Much less time obviously. I think you answered your own question. |
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Some dudes will handle this situation with class. Others won't. Some will stick around for a bit in the hopes of getting laid, and then leave. Some guys will stick around and once they see what is happening, they will tell you they have a business trip in Kragystan. You'll never hear from that dude again. My point? Not all men will handle it in the same manner. Best thing you can do is date and stick to your own guns. Decide how you want to date and DO IT!
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Now, cut to the chase. I am considering doing the whole 'dating' thing again next year after I am moved, and starting over. Well, move to my community, and we can discuss your issues over dinner. |
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