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Edited by
heavenlyboy34
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No I would not. Any man that uses a Hooker is not somebody I want to be with. I feel they are most likely the type of man that has very little respect for women. So what? If this hypothetical man get sex for free, does that mean he "has no respect for women"? Nonsense. I don't see myself patronizing a prostitute in the future, but it's fundamentally no different than any other exchange of services for cash. (See the section on prostitution in Block's "Defending the Undefendable" and John Stossel's special on prostitution for more) I would argue that a John is at least honest in what he wants-whereas other men typically have to butter up women with dinner, etc. before getting them in the sack. |
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No I would not. Any man that uses a Hooker is not somebody I want to be with. I feel they are most likely the type of man that has very little respect for women. So what? If this hypothetical man get sex for free, does that mean he "has no respect for women"? Nonsense. I don't see myself patronizing a prostitute in the future, but it's fundamentally no different than any other exchange of services for cash. (See the section on prostitution in Block's "Defending the Undefendable" and John Stossel's special on prostitution for more) I would argue that a John is at least honest in what he wants-whereas other men typically have to butter up women with dinner, etc. before getting them in the sack. Sorry..I think there is a huge difference. But if you don't that's ok..its your opinion. |
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I did say if it happened in the past, it wouldn't be a big deal. I don't put up with cheaters now, whether it's a prostitute or someone else. I tend to agree but I also agree with Betty as far as the respect issue and klc - I just agree with anyway usually  this time no exception
I don't think paying for/not paying for sex really shows that someone respects women less or more. There are men out there who don't pay for sex who don't respect women. And I'm sure men who have paid for sex who do respect women. I don't think that's a deciding factor, though. |
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I did say if it happened in the past, it wouldn't be a big deal. I don't put up with cheaters now, whether it's a prostitute or someone else. I tend to agree but I also agree with Betty as far as the respect issue and klc - I just agree with anyway usually this time no exception
I don't think paying for/not paying for sex really shows that someone respects women less or more. There are men out there who don't pay for sex who don't respect women. And I'm sure men who have paid for sex who do respect women. I don't think that's a deciding factor, though. I do see the respect side of it tho I also agree that there are men who do not pay for sex who are not respectful. I am in this thread referring to men who are in a relationship while paying another for sex. I do not see anything respectful there...just my .02 |
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Ah. In your first post, when you said they had visited prostitutes/strip clubs, I thought you meant in the past rather than while currently dating. Going to a strip club with friends is not a big deal. Getting a prostitute while in a relationship, just like cheating, is a big no no.
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I did say if it happened in the past, it wouldn't be a big deal. I don't put up with cheaters now, whether it's a prostitute or someone else. I tend to agree but I also agree with Betty as far as the respect issue and klc - I just agree with anyway usually this time no exception
I don't think paying for/not paying for sex really shows that someone respects women less or more. There are men out there who don't pay for sex who don't respect women. And I'm sure men who have paid for sex who do respect women. I don't think that's a deciding factor, though. I do see the respect side of it tho I also agree that there are men who do not pay for sex who are not respectful. I am in this thread referring to men who are in a relationship while paying another for sex. I do not see anything respectful there...just my .02 I see your .02 cents and raise you .o4 cents lol |
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No I would not. Any man that uses a Hooker is not somebody I want to be with. I feel they are most likely the type of man that has very little respect for women. So what? If this hypothetical man get sex for free, does that mean he "has no respect for women"? Nonsense. I don't see myself patronizing a prostitute in the future, but it's fundamentally no different than any other exchange of services for cash. (See the section on prostitution in Block's "Defending the Undefendable" and John Stossel's special on prostitution for more) I would argue that a John is at least honest in what he wants-whereas other men typically have to butter up women with dinner, etc. before getting them in the sack. no one has to pay me OR butter me up (actually HB THAT sounds kinda kinky   )
seriously tho no one has to butter me up or pay me in any form for sex. If we're in the groove & he's my man then that is what it is so I agree that there is a huge difference there between sex with a partner & sex for pay |
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Edited by
heavenlyboy34
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Sun 08/14/11 05:06 PM
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No I would not. Any man that uses a Hooker is not somebody I want to be with. I feel they are most likely the type of man that has very little respect for women. So what? If this hypothetical man get sex for free, does that mean he "has no respect for women"? Nonsense. I don't see myself patronizing a prostitute in the future, but it's fundamentally no different than any other exchange of services for cash. (See the section on prostitution in Block's "Defending the Undefendable" and John Stossel's special on prostitution for more) I would argue that a John is at least honest in what he wants-whereas other men typically have to butter up women with dinner, etc. before getting them in the sack. no one has to pay me OR butter me up (actually HB THAT sounds kinda kinky )
seriously tho no one has to butter me up or pay me in any form for sex. If we're in the groove & he's my man then that is what it is so I agree that there is a huge difference there between sex with a partner & sex for pay Ah, but nothing in this world is free. All men pay for sex, one way or another.
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if a guy is in a relationship, he is paying for sex. ok jk. but if a guy is in a relationship and he is paying prostitutes for sex than there is a problem. could be with her (like sex is too painful, or just withholding sex) or it could be with him (sex addict, cheater) but the problem is not solved with the prostitute
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Ah. In your first post, when you said they had visited prostitutes/strip clubs, I thought you meant in the past rather than while currently dating. Going to a strip club with friends is not a big deal. Getting a prostitute while in a relationship, just like cheating, is a big no no. well correct, yes, actually I was referring to either or both.... just what a woman's parameters might be - for example you & I are OK if it's in the past of a man but some of the gals are a little skeptical even if it's only in the past and some prolly think it's fine/don;t care |
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Something another member posted got me to thinking....it was in a thread about sex and the subject of patronizing prostitutes came up. Now Ima not so interested in a lot of moralizing about whether it is right or wrong to become a prostitute but what I am wondering from the other ladies on here is: If you were dating someone, and were fairly well into the friendship and it became apparent that your male friend visited or had habitually visited prostitutes, or strip clubs would you continue to see him? Would you continue to see him if he made it clear that this behavior would not stop/has not stopped? I'd be like deuces, I'm out of here. It's over! |
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In an age where you can die from sexually transmitted diseases, I would say goodbye. I agree with you on that one. |
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I think a mans 'preferences' says alot to me about how compatible we would be based upon my own 'preferences'.
its as simple as that really because I take 'sex' as something intimate and serious, I would steer clear of the type of man for whom sex is 'just' an activity(which the use of prostitution would indicate to me) IF I was into casual sex, the only objection I would have to the prostitution is the idea of picking up COMPLETELY random women who have probably(by definition of their means of income) had sex with any number of other random people in the same night even when you give blood, thats on the list of high risk behavior, and I wouldnt want to engage in activities with those engaged in high risk sexual behaviors on the other hand, escort services or brothels which have some type of decorum and health screening mandates, would be no different a choice than picking up someone in a bar(its possibly a better choice in my opinion) for sex and if casual sex were my thing, I wouldnt have an issue with men who used such services |
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No I would not. Any man that uses a Hooker is not somebody I want to be with. I feel they are most likely the type of man that has very little respect for women. So what? If this hypothetical man get sex for free, does that mean he "has no respect for women"? Nonsense. I don't see myself patronizing a prostitute in the future, but it's fundamentally no different than any other exchange of services for cash. (See the section on prostitution in Block's "Defending the Undefendable" and John Stossel's special on prostitution for more) I would argue that a John is at least honest in what he wants-whereas other men typically have to butter up women with dinner, etc. before getting them in the sack. no one has to pay me OR butter me up (actually HB THAT sounds kinda kinky )
seriously tho no one has to butter me up or pay me in any form for sex. If we're in the groove & he's my man then that is what it is so I agree that there is a huge difference there between sex with a partner & sex for pay Ah, but nothing in this world is free. All men pay for sex, one way or another.
well we will have to agree to disagree there none of my former partners ever had their feet held to the fire to share my bed and I say that with complete confidence |
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if a guy is in a relationship, he is paying for sex. ok jk. but if a guy is in a relationship and he is paying prostitutes for sex than there is a problem. could be with her (like sex is too painful, or just withholding sex) or it could be with him (sex addict, cheater) but the problem is not solved with the prostitute OK thanks for the clarification I think we are on the same page with that |
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I think a mans 'preferences' says alot to me about how compatible we would be based upon my own 'preferences'. its as simple as that really because I take 'sex' as something intimate and serious, I would steer clear of the type of man for whom sex is 'just' an activity(which the use of prostitution would indicate to me) IF I was into casual sex, the only objection I would have to the prostitution is the idea of picking up COMPLETELY random women who have probably(by definition of their means of income) had sex with any number of other random people in the same night even when you give blood, thats on the list of high risk behavior, and I wouldnt want to engage in activities with those engaged in high risk sexual behaviors on the other hand, escort services or brothels which have some type of decorum and health screening mandates, would be no different a choice than picking up someone in a bar(its possibly a better choice in my opinion) for sex and if casual sex were my thing, I wouldnt have an issue with men who used such services so then a man in a relationship presumably is or was serious, yes? I am not sure if I could even accept it from a man I was currently dating....I am just not good at sharing - if he's with me -even if we;re just at the talking stage - the MO with the HO has to GO I need that respect
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Edited by
sweetestgirl11
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Sun 08/14/11 05:24 PM
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Something another member posted got me to thinking....it was in a thread about sex and the subject of patronizing prostitutes came up. Now Ima not so interested in a lot of moralizing about whether it is right or wrong to become a prostitute but what I am wondering from the other ladies on here is: If you were dating someone, and were fairly well into the friendship and it became apparent that your male friend visited or had habitually visited prostitutes, or strip clubs would you continue to see him? Would you continue to see him if he made it clear that this behavior would not stop/has not stopped? I'd be like deuces, I'm out of here. It's over! I would be gone also if he was not planning to cease & desist - willingly I would want him to want me - only me - that much geez IMA selfish biotch 
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I think a mans 'preferences' says alot to me about how compatible we would be based upon my own 'preferences'. its as simple as that really because I take 'sex' as something intimate and serious, I would steer clear of the type of man for whom sex is 'just' an activity(which the use of prostitution would indicate to me) IF I was into casual sex, the only objection I would have to the prostitution is the idea of picking up COMPLETELY random women who have probably(by definition of their means of income) had sex with any number of other random people in the same night even when you give blood, thats on the list of high risk behavior, and I wouldnt want to engage in activities with those engaged in high risk sexual behaviors on the other hand, escort services or brothels which have some type of decorum and health screening mandates, would be no different a choice than picking up someone in a bar(its possibly a better choice in my opinion) for sex and if casual sex were my thing, I wouldnt have an issue with men who used such services so then a man in a relationship presumably is or was serious, yes? I am not sure if I could even accept it from a man I was currently dating....I am just not good at sharing - if he's with me -even if we;re just at the talking stage - the MO with the HO has to GO I need that respect
 well said!
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I think a mans 'preferences' says alot to me about how compatible we would be based upon my own 'preferences'. its as simple as that really because I take 'sex' as something intimate and serious, I would steer clear of the type of man for whom sex is 'just' an activity(which the use of prostitution would indicate to me) IF I was into casual sex, the only objection I would have to the prostitution is the idea of picking up COMPLETELY random women who have probably(by definition of their means of income) had sex with any number of other random people in the same night even when you give blood, thats on the list of high risk behavior, and I wouldnt want to engage in activities with those engaged in high risk sexual behaviors on the other hand, escort services or brothels which have some type of decorum and health screening mandates, would be no different a choice than picking up someone in a bar(its possibly a better choice in my opinion) for sex and if casual sex were my thing, I wouldnt have an issue with men who used such services so then a man in a relationship presumably is or was serious, yes? I am not sure if I could even accept it from a man I was currently dating....I am just not good at sharing - if he's with me -even if we;re just at the talking stage - the MO with the HO has to GO I need that respect
well said!
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Ah, but nothing in this world is free. All men pay for sex, one way or another.
This is actually a good way to look at it. If we accept this to be the case, we must also accept that when men arent getting sex, then there is an issue with the account book that needs tending.
I really do not feel that sex is a trade off but I see this sentiment echoed a lot it scares me it saddens me and it has certainly not been the case for me....but I have met some guys who think that way and I think men who think that way belong to the fraternity of men that really do not particularly like women, as people, but view them primarily as sex objects thus needed for sex but not wanted for any other reason - in this frame of mind it is easy to see how a man feels it's a "trade off" but that is a fraternity whose members I'd prefer to avoid - I like men who are ladies men - really enjoy female company - for it's own sake - as I enjoy theirs (men) |
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