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I don't waste my life. I learned not to, almost lost it in a car wrech and have dedicated my life to spreading the word of God to the world. Cowboy.....so after all this time of denial... you finally admit that you're not only here in the forum to debate or discuss....but to preach No I'm just discussing. Preaching is done to those whom wish to listen, a discussion is to those whom disagree and or have different views. This is true, because if it is preaching when someone is here to spread their side of the belief, it is also preaching when someone else is here to spread their side of the belief eg., none belief. Preaching goes both way, not just from the one that believes in the spiritual discussion at hand. Cowboy...you admitted that you are here to preach the gospel...perhaps mostly a false gospel ...but anyway there is no need to try to say that you're not,when you have already admitted that you are I'm here to spread the gospel, and that would be preaching to those whom believe. But for the one's whom do not believe, it is spreading the good news the Lord has given us. Also keep in mind, preaching goes both ways. If one wishes to see what I do as preaching, then what they do is preaching as well eg., if me spreading the word is preaching, then the one's denying the lord would be preaching as well. Definition of preach - To proclaim or put forth in a sermon Definition of sermon - A religious discourse delivered as part of a church service. This is not church nor a church service, so therefore not preaching cause I'm not putting forth a sermon for again this is not a church nor a church service. Merely discussing different spiritual views depending on the subject at hand. I so like it when I can get a religious person to hide behind the dictionary instead of running to or following the bible Cowboy..... Jesus commanded you to spread his word and stated that if you do not obey him that you do not Love him ...so as long as you keep trying to deny that you are obeying Jesus, it only prove that you don't Love him Nice try Funches, you're very witty. Yes Jesus did command us to do this, i've never once said that I wasn't doing that. All I was showing is this does not justify as "preaching". Preaching is only done to those whom wish to hear it in a sermon at a church. Outside of that it is discussing. Cowboy...you call it spreading the gospel others refer to it as preaching....it's that simple Doesn't matter what other people call it. By definition for it to constitute as "preaching" it would be done by giving a sermon. I'm not giving a sermon, merely discussing the topic at hand. If what I'm doing is preaching, then what you are doing is preaching as well. We are doing the same, we are both telling out spiritual beliefs and or discussing the lack thereof. |
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Just a little further and we have this verse. Genesis 2:24 24Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. The word cleave means - to adhere firmly and closely or loyally and unwaveringly With it being "loyally" this would mean for the man to remain with that ONE woman and that woman to remain with that ONE man. isn't "cleave" something that happens doing sex No, someone could have "sex" with many different people. Cleave is remaining loyal to the one you cleave to. Cleave - to adhere firmly and closely or loyally and unwaveringly perhaps during Tantrist Sex you don't have to cleave....but with sexual intercourse you generally have to cleave on to something... |
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An animal that is not human, has sex naturally. I doubt if they know that they are doing it to reproduce. Its all instinct. Humans are considered to be part of the animal kingdom. They also do things on instinct. Most human males are not trying to reproduce when their interest turns to having sex. They are just doing what comes natural. They are not thinking about having children or raising a family. Two young adults who have sex and the girl gets pregnant are not planning or trying to have children. They are acting on instinct. This instinct is natural and God-given. Don't demonize sex. That is demonizing God's creation. That is demonizing something that is natural and instinctual. That desire is of the flesh. We are to live of the spirit. The flesh will die, you live by the flesh, you will die with the flesh. *disclaimer* "You" in this comment is on a general note and not specifically directed at anyone in particular. so you believe that when people have sex they don't desire the other person? ...I think they call that marriage Sex between two in love and married is not about the physical pleasures of sex. It is about the emotions shared between the two. This is where the term "making love" came into play. It's not about the physical pleasures of sex, it's about the emotional connection that occurs during such an action. |
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Just a little further and we have this verse. Genesis 2:24 24Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. The word cleave means - to adhere firmly and closely or loyally and unwaveringly With it being "loyally" this would mean for the man to remain with that ONE woman and that woman to remain with that ONE man. isn't "cleave" something that happens doing sex No, someone could have "sex" with many different people. Cleave is remaining loyal to the one you cleave to. Cleave - to adhere firmly and closely or loyally and unwaveringly perhaps during Tantrist Sex you don't have to cleave....but with sexual intercourse you generally have to cleave on to something... Never said you didn't have to cleave. But my point is if you cleave to someone, you remain loyal to them, if not, you would not be cleaving to the one. Cleaving to someone is the same as marriage. You remain faithful, loyal, and loving to that ONE person. For if there is another person involve you would not cleave to the first, for you would not be loyal to the first. |
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Doesn't matter what other people call it. By definition for it to constitute as "preaching" it would be done by giving a sermon. I'm not giving a sermon, merely discussing the topic at hand. If what I'm doing is preaching, then what you are doing is preaching as well. We are doing the same, we are both telling out spiritual beliefs and or discussing the lack thereof. Preachings is a follower spreading the gospel...I'm not a follower...but you are ..that makes you the Preacher man and you are constanty giving sermons. so much that I was going to place in the Mingle2 suggestion box that they make a way so that the forum can donate you tithes |
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An animal that is not human, has sex naturally. I doubt if they know that they are doing it to reproduce. Its all instinct. Humans are considered to be part of the animal kingdom. They also do things on instinct. Most human males are not trying to reproduce when their interest turns to having sex. They are just doing what comes natural. They are not thinking about having children or raising a family. Two young adults who have sex and the girl gets pregnant are not planning or trying to have children. They are acting on instinct. This instinct is natural and God-given. Don't demonize sex. That is demonizing God's creation. That is demonizing something that is natural and instinctual. That desire is of the flesh. We are to live of the spirit. The flesh will die, you live by the flesh, you will die with the flesh. *disclaimer* "You" in this comment is on a general note and not specifically directed at anyone in particular. so you believe that when people have sex they don't desire the other person? ...I think they call that marriage Sex between two in love and married is not about the physical pleasures of sex. It is about the emotions shared between the two. This is where the term "making love" came into play. It's not about the physical pleasures of sex, it's about the emotional connection that occurs during such an action. if sex is not out of desire...then it's a chore |
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Doesn't matter what other people call it. By definition for it to constitute as "preaching" it would be done by giving a sermon. I'm not giving a sermon, merely discussing the topic at hand. If what I'm doing is preaching, then what you are doing is preaching as well. We are doing the same, we are both telling out spiritual beliefs and or discussing the lack thereof. Preachings is a follower spreading the gospel...I'm not a follower...but you are ..that makes you the Preacher man and you are constanty giving sermons. so much that I was going to place in the Mingle2 suggestion box that they make a way so that the forum can donate you tithes Preaching isn't secluded to the believer. sermon - : to urge acceptance or abandonment of an idea or course of action; specifically : to exhort in an officious or tiresome manner You are doing just as I. So are we preaching to each other? :s... No, we're discussing in a discussion forum. But if you wish to call what I do, "preaching" then by definition what you do is preaching as well. |
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An animal that is not human, has sex naturally. I doubt if they know that they are doing it to reproduce. Its all instinct. Humans are considered to be part of the animal kingdom. They also do things on instinct. Most human males are not trying to reproduce when their interest turns to having sex. They are just doing what comes natural. They are not thinking about having children or raising a family. Two young adults who have sex and the girl gets pregnant are not planning or trying to have children. They are acting on instinct. This instinct is natural and God-given. Don't demonize sex. That is demonizing God's creation. That is demonizing something that is natural and instinctual. That desire is of the flesh. We are to live of the spirit. The flesh will die, you live by the flesh, you will die with the flesh. *disclaimer* "You" in this comment is on a general note and not specifically directed at anyone in particular. so you believe that when people have sex they don't desire the other person? ...I think they call that marriage Sex between two in love and married is not about the physical pleasures of sex. It is about the emotions shared between the two. This is where the term "making love" came into play. It's not about the physical pleasures of sex, it's about the emotional connection that occurs during such an action. if sex is not out of desire...then it's a chore Do you truly read things like that? Or you still playing games? Never once did I say it wasn't a desire. It's not a PHYSICAL desire, it's a desire to be emotionally one. Sex is for the emotions and procreation if possible, it's not about the physical pleasure. |
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Just a little further and we have this verse. Genesis 2:24 24Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. The word cleave means - to adhere firmly and closely or loyally and unwaveringly With it being "loyally" this would mean for the man to remain with that ONE woman and that woman to remain with that ONE man. isn't "cleave" something that happens doing sex No, someone could have "sex" with many different people. Cleave is remaining loyal to the one you cleave to. Cleave - to adhere firmly and closely or loyally and unwaveringly perhaps during Tantrist Sex you don't have to cleave....but with sexual intercourse you generally have to cleave on to something... Never said you didn't have to cleave. But my point is if you cleave to someone, you remain loyal to them, if not, you would not be cleaving to the one. Cleaving to someone is the same as marriage. You remain faithful, loyal, and loving to that ONE person. For if there is another person involve you would not cleave to the first, for you would not be loyal to the first. if what you said was True .. no one would ever get Divorce ..... |
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Doesn't matter what other people call it. By definition for it to constitute as "preaching" it would be done by giving a sermon. I'm not giving a sermon, merely discussing the topic at hand. If what I'm doing is preaching, then what you are doing is preaching as well. We are doing the same, we are both telling out spiritual beliefs and or discussing the lack thereof. Preachings is a follower spreading the gospel...I'm not a follower...but you are ..that makes you the Preacher man and you are constanty giving sermons. so much that I was going to place in the Mingle2 suggestion box that they make a way so that the forum can donate you tithes Preaching isn't secluded to the believer. sermon - : to urge acceptance or abandonment of an idea or course of action; specifically : to exhort in an officious or tiresome manner You are doing just as I. So are we preaching to each other? :s... No, we're discussing in a discussion forum. But if you wish to call what I do, "preaching" then by definition what you do is preaching as well. I'm debating the bible as I would debate a book about Spiderman...in which I consider either to be nothing more than a book....it's you that take this book as truth ...it's you that are under Jesus's Command to spread the gospel in the book....that's makes you The Preacher Man |
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Doesn't matter what other people call it. By definition for it to constitute as "preaching" it would be done by giving a sermon. I'm not giving a sermon, merely discussing the topic at hand. If what I'm doing is preaching, then what you are doing is preaching as well. We are doing the same, we are both telling out spiritual beliefs and or discussing the lack thereof. Preachings is a follower spreading the gospel...I'm not a follower...but you are ..that makes you the Preacher man and you are constanty giving sermons. so much that I was going to place in the Mingle2 suggestion box that they make a way so that the forum can donate you tithes Preaching isn't secluded to the believer. sermon - : to urge acceptance or abandonment of an idea or course of action; specifically : to exhort in an officious or tiresome manner You are doing just as I. So are we preaching to each other? :s... No, we're discussing in a discussion forum. But if you wish to call what I do, "preaching" then by definition what you do is preaching as well. I'm debating the bible as I would debate a book about Spiderman...in which I consider either to be nothing more than a book....it's you that take this book as truth ...it's you that are under Jesus's Command to spread the gospel in the book....that's makes you The Preacher Man Just because I believe and you don't doesn't change what one does in this situation. The laws are for us all, doesn't change the fact if they believe it or not. So what you are doing is the same thing as what I am doing. I'm not doing this cause Jesus told me, not doing this cause I HAVE to. I'm doing this cause I wish to, but I willingly want to. Again, Funches you must take this way to far. We're merely two people having a discussion on what we believe and or what we don't believe. |
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An animal that is not human, has sex naturally. I doubt if they know that they are doing it to reproduce. Its all instinct. Humans are considered to be part of the animal kingdom. They also do things on instinct. Most human males are not trying to reproduce when their interest turns to having sex. They are just doing what comes natural. They are not thinking about having children or raising a family. Two young adults who have sex and the girl gets pregnant are not planning or trying to have children. They are acting on instinct. This instinct is natural and God-given. Don't demonize sex. That is demonizing God's creation. That is demonizing something that is natural and instinctual. That desire is of the flesh. We are to live of the spirit. The flesh will die, you live by the flesh, you will die with the flesh. *disclaimer* "You" in this comment is on a general note and not specifically directed at anyone in particular. so you believe that when people have sex they don't desire the other person? ...I think they call that marriage Sex between two in love and married is not about the physical pleasures of sex. It is about the emotions shared between the two. This is where the term "making love" came into play. It's not about the physical pleasures of sex, it's about the emotional connection that occurs during such an action. if sex is not out of desire...then it's a chore Do you truly read things like that? Or you still playing games? Never once did I say it wasn't a desire. It's not a PHYSICAL desire, it's a desire to be emotionally one. Sex is for the emotions and procreation if possible, it's not about the physical pleasure. isn't "Lust" an emotion? |
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Just a little further and we have this verse. Genesis 2:24 24Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. The word cleave means - to adhere firmly and closely or loyally and unwaveringly With it being "loyally" this would mean for the man to remain with that ONE woman and that woman to remain with that ONE man. isn't "cleave" something that happens doing sex No, someone could have "sex" with many different people. Cleave is remaining loyal to the one you cleave to. Cleave - to adhere firmly and closely or loyally and unwaveringly perhaps during Tantrist Sex you don't have to cleave....but with sexual intercourse you generally have to cleave on to something... Never said you didn't have to cleave. But my point is if you cleave to someone, you remain loyal to them, if not, you would not be cleaving to the one. Cleaving to someone is the same as marriage. You remain faithful, loyal, and loving to that ONE person. For if there is another person involve you would not cleave to the first, for you would not be loyal to the first. if what you said was True .. no one would ever get Divorce ..... Very true, and if one gets a divorce, they are a liar. For when they got married, they agreed to better or WORSE. If two people truly love one another and cleave to one another, they will never get a divorce. |
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An animal that is not human, has sex naturally. I doubt if they know that they are doing it to reproduce. Its all instinct. Humans are considered to be part of the animal kingdom. They also do things on instinct. Most human males are not trying to reproduce when their interest turns to having sex. They are just doing what comes natural. They are not thinking about having children or raising a family. Two young adults who have sex and the girl gets pregnant are not planning or trying to have children. They are acting on instinct. This instinct is natural and God-given. Don't demonize sex. That is demonizing God's creation. That is demonizing something that is natural and instinctual. That desire is of the flesh. We are to live of the spirit. The flesh will die, you live by the flesh, you will die with the flesh. *disclaimer* "You" in this comment is on a general note and not specifically directed at anyone in particular. so you believe that when people have sex they don't desire the other person? ...I think they call that marriage Sex between two in love and married is not about the physical pleasures of sex. It is about the emotions shared between the two. This is where the term "making love" came into play. It's not about the physical pleasures of sex, it's about the emotional connection that occurs during such an action. if sex is not out of desire...then it's a chore Do you truly read things like that? Or you still playing games? Never once did I say it wasn't a desire. It's not a PHYSICAL desire, it's a desire to be emotionally one. Sex is for the emotions and procreation if possible, it's not about the physical pleasure. isn't "Lust" an emotion? No, lust is a physical desire. It is an action. It is a verb to be grammatically correct. |
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Doesn't matter what other people call it. By definition for it to constitute as "preaching" it would be done by giving a sermon. I'm not giving a sermon, merely discussing the topic at hand. If what I'm doing is preaching, then what you are doing is preaching as well. We are doing the same, we are both telling out spiritual beliefs and or discussing the lack thereof. Preachings is a follower spreading the gospel...I'm not a follower...but you are ..that makes you the Preacher man and you are constanty giving sermons. so much that I was going to place in the Mingle2 suggestion box that they make a way so that the forum can donate you tithes Preaching isn't secluded to the believer. sermon - : to urge acceptance or abandonment of an idea or course of action; specifically : to exhort in an officious or tiresome manner You are doing just as I. So are we preaching to each other? :s... No, we're discussing in a discussion forum. But if you wish to call what I do, "preaching" then by definition what you do is preaching as well. I'm debating the bible as I would debate a book about Spiderman...in which I consider either to be nothing more than a book....it's you that take this book as truth ...it's you that are under Jesus's Command to spread the gospel in the book....that's makes you The Preacher Man Just because I believe and you don't doesn't change what one does in this situation. The laws are for us all, doesn't change the fact if they believe it or not. So what you are doing is the same thing as what I am doing. I'm not doing this cause Jesus told me, not doing this cause I HAVE to. I'm doing this cause I wish to, but I willingly want to. Again, Funches you must take this way to far. We're merely two people having a discussion on what we believe and or what we don't believe. you admitted that you are here to spread the word because you were commanded to do so.....I not under any law to be here....that's why you're The Preacher Man |
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Edited by
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Two people don't join to "become one." That is a romantic analogy, but it seldom works that way. That is the same as believing in a soul mate.
If you have a lot in common with someone and you learn to accept the differences you may be able to form a productive relationship. but you will each still be separate individuals. When two people form a partnership and are compatible together they can create what some people call a "group mind." Their energy and their minds form to compliment each other. That can happen in larger groups also. They form a group mind and toss around and share ideas. I've seen this happen. This is why a group is often more successful at getting something accomplished than just a single person. Like droplets of water. They get together and all join together sharing their properties. When you separate the water, each drop goes away with some of the properties of the group. That can be good, or it could be contaminated. Liquids are the vehicle for life. Swapping bodily fluids can get you a STD or pregnant. |
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An animal that is not human, has sex naturally. I doubt if they know that they are doing it to reproduce. Its all instinct. Humans are considered to be part of the animal kingdom. They also do things on instinct. Most human males are not trying to reproduce when their interest turns to having sex. They are just doing what comes natural. They are not thinking about having children or raising a family. Two young adults who have sex and the girl gets pregnant are not planning or trying to have children. They are acting on instinct. This instinct is natural and God-given. Don't demonize sex. That is demonizing God's creation. That is demonizing something that is natural and instinctual. That desire is of the flesh. We are to live of the spirit. The flesh will die, you live by the flesh, you will die with the flesh. *disclaimer* "You" in this comment is on a general note and not specifically directed at anyone in particular. so you believe that when people have sex they don't desire the other person? ...I think they call that marriage Sex between two in love and married is not about the physical pleasures of sex. It is about the emotions shared between the two. This is where the term "making love" came into play. It's not about the physical pleasures of sex, it's about the emotional connection that occurs during such an action. if sex is not out of desire...then it's a chore Do you truly read things like that? Or you still playing games? Never once did I say it wasn't a desire. It's not a PHYSICAL desire, it's a desire to be emotionally one. Sex is for the emotions and procreation if possible, it's not about the physical pleasure. isn't "Lust" an emotion? No, lust is a physical desire. It is an action. It is a verb to be grammatically correct. lust is an emotional state of being not an action .....lust is what makes you want to perform some actions see how you are slowly beginning to see the meaning of "Fruitful" |
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if what you said was True .. no one would ever get Divorce ..... Very true, and if one gets a divorce, they are a liar. For when they got married, they agreed to better or WORSE. If two people truly love one another and cleave to one another, they will never get a divorce. "WORSE" could be a result of being "cleaved" over the head in an abusive marriage......so are you claiming that because someone gets a divorce because of abuse the person is a liar? |
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Edited by
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Cowboy said:
Very true, and if one gets a divorce, they are a liar. For when they got married, they agreed to better or WORSE. If two people truly love one another and cleave to one another, they will never get a divorce.
That's a big IF. 
People change. Also, people mistake infatuation and sexual attraction for love, then they find out that they married a jerk. 
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Edited by
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Yes Cowboy...being fruitful can also mean to live
productive lives...and being fruitful to a christian means to bear spirtual fruit...yes I agree.... BUT that is NOT the meaning of "be fruitful" in those particular passages in GENESIS , where God says to sea creatures , fowls of the air, and ALSO man , to" be fruitful and multiply"!!! God , when addressing the sea creatures and fowls , AND ALSO man in Genesis(with the EXACT same words ,"be fruitful and multiply"}, was talking about BEARING or PRODUCING OFFSPRING!!!! NOT just living fruitful lives!! Lord God, , asking, trusting and believing, that You Will make Your Word very CLEAR to Cowboy now. 
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