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Topic: The Prophecy
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Tue 09/06/11 07:09 AM




none of those verses mention anything about being a 'blind' follower, nor do they say that not following anyone will lead to fire


MsHarmony ...Jesus said to "OBEY" his teachings and those that do not will be tossed in the fire ....that verse sure implies "blindly" and leading to fire

you have a habit of running to the dictionary instead of the bible...run there and look up the word "obey"



no, jesus did not say that, Funches interpreted/paraprased what JEsus said INTO That,,,,

obey: to follow the commands or guidance of
2: to conform to or comply wit


...nothing about being 'blind', nothing that excludes reasoning or logic in the choice to follow or conform or comply,,,


MsHarmony...if you as a follower are questioning about following God blindly...is that an indication that you yourself personally wouldn't

befor you answer that question allow me to place your Free Will under "duress" by reminding you of the story of Adam and Eve

so MsHarmony....

1)would you follow God blindly
2)should we change the title of the biblical story from Adam and Eve to Adam and MsHarmony



no

blind: having no regard to rational discrimination, guidance, or restriction


IT wouldnt be blind if I consider the guidance rational, which I do and would,,,,

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Tue 09/06/11 07:15 AM





The religion nor the people condemn anyone. No one condemns anyone but themselves. We are foretold the outcome of certain actions, so if this someone wishes to do these certain actions, they would be condemning them self would they not be?

And no, the love of the father is not "homosexual" love, nor would it be if he impregnated me. HomoSEXual actions are those when two of the same gender have SEX. There would be no sexual intercourse involved if God wished for me to bare his child. Nor was there any sexual intercourse when Marry was impregnated with Jesus.


Cowboy...you and your father are of the same gender and if he place his holy spirit into you a Man like he place himself into Mary...then that would be homosexual sex

a person or entity that place "himself" inside a host for the purpose of reproduction is called sex


Only if placing himself inside of me involved a penis or some instrument used for sexual purposes. The father is in me, I invited him in a long time ago.

Once again, Sex = a man placing his penis inside of a woman or another man, and or fondling of the sexual organs. Or a woman fondling the sexual organs of another woman. And so forth, in one way or other it would involve two people fondling the sexual organs of another.

There would be none of this nor was there any of this when Marry was impregnated with Jesus.


Cowboy....you are a perfect example as to why they need to teach biology in sunday school....because you would have learn that sex and reproduction can occur without having to stick a tallywhacker into a forbidden fruit ..

speaking of fruit...do you also believe that fruit trees uproot in order to find another fruit tree to stick a tallywhacker in ....it is said that a vagina is the forbidden fruit but please tell me that you don't believe that fruit trees have a big old vaginas between it's tree bark

so please enough of that kiddy talk that the only form of sex is a man sticking his penis in a vagina ...

sex is reproduction ....and since you claim that you a Man was willing to becomes like woman so that your father could place himself into you for reproduction purposes....then that is homosexual sex

but anyway you claimed that you were willing to do anything for Jesus .....so if Jesus asked you to have homosexual sex...would you not do it?

please don't use the excuse of what Jesus won't ask you....since you claim that Jesus is God then God have asked many of his creations to violate his commandments and laws

so again Cowboy.....would you have homosexual sex if Jesus asked you


oversimplifying it doesnt make it true

sex is not reproduction, it is a MEANS of reproduction as not everyone who engages in SEX Will reproduce


In vitro fertilization is a way of reproduction that does not require 'sex'

so the two are not mutually inclusive


MsHarmony...sex is whatever method that is used to reproduce, sex other than the purpose of reproduction in the religious context refers to "Lust" ...weren't you paying attention to Cowboy's sermons about Lust ...in which he claims that sex is for reproduction and that lust is naughty

but anyway we are talking about God reproducing....are you trying to claim that God sometimes shoot blanks ...I'm not sure Mary would agree with you

this is why if it's God intentions to place himself inside Cowboy with the sole purpose of getting Cowboy pregnant...then that is reproduction and therefore sex....and since both Cowboy and his Father are Male...that makes it homosexual sex

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Tue 09/06/11 07:21 AM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 09/06/11 07:23 AM






The religion nor the people condemn anyone. No one condemns anyone but themselves. We are foretold the outcome of certain actions, so if this someone wishes to do these certain actions, they would be condemning them self would they not be?

And no, the love of the father is not "homosexual" love, nor would it be if he impregnated me. HomoSEXual actions are those when two of the same gender have SEX. There would be no sexual intercourse involved if God wished for me to bare his child. Nor was there any sexual intercourse when Marry was impregnated with Jesus.


Cowboy...you and your father are of the same gender and if he place his holy spirit into you a Man like he place himself into Mary...then that would be homosexual sex

a person or entity that place "himself" inside a host for the purpose of reproduction is called sex


Only if placing himself inside of me involved a penis or some instrument used for sexual purposes. The father is in me, I invited him in a long time ago.

Once again, Sex = a man placing his penis inside of a woman or another man, and or fondling of the sexual organs. Or a woman fondling the sexual organs of another woman. And so forth, in one way or other it would involve two people fondling the sexual organs of another.

There would be none of this nor was there any of this when Marry was impregnated with Jesus.


Cowboy....you are a perfect example as to why they need to teach biology in sunday school....because you would have learn that sex and reproduction can occur without having to stick a tallywhacker into a forbidden fruit ..

speaking of fruit...do you also believe that fruit trees uproot in order to find another fruit tree to stick a tallywhacker in ....it is said that a vagina is the forbidden fruit but please tell me that you don't believe that fruit trees have a big old vaginas between it's tree bark

so please enough of that kiddy talk that the only form of sex is a man sticking his penis in a vagina ...

sex is reproduction ....and since you claim that you a Man was willing to becomes like woman so that your father could place himself into you for reproduction purposes....then that is homosexual sex

but anyway you claimed that you were willing to do anything for Jesus .....so if Jesus asked you to have homosexual sex...would you not do it?

please don't use the excuse of what Jesus won't ask you....since you claim that Jesus is God then God have asked many of his creations to violate his commandments and laws

so again Cowboy.....would you have homosexual sex if Jesus asked you


oversimplifying it doesnt make it true

sex is not reproduction, it is a MEANS of reproduction as not everyone who engages in SEX Will reproduce


In vitro fertilization is a way of reproduction that does not require 'sex'

so the two are not mutually inclusive


MsHarmony...sex is whatever method that is used to reproduce, sex other than the purpose of reproduction in the religious context refers to "Lust" ...weren't you paying attention to Cowboy's sermons about Lust ...in which he claims that sex is for reproduction and that lust is naughty

but anyway we are talking about God reproducing....are you trying to claim that God sometimes shoot blanks ...I'm not sure Mary would agree with you

this is why if it's God intentions to place himself inside Cowboy with the sole purpose of getting Cowboy pregnant...then that is reproduction and therefore sex....and since both Cowboy and his Father are Male...that makes it homosexual sex



still wrong

SEX Is not defined in the bible, it is defined in our modern dictionaries and text books

being FRUITFUL was one command given by God that involves sex
but it was not the ONLY purpose of SEX Between a (married) couple, it was also an expression of each belonging to the other(reproduction or not)

Sex , as an action, involves the desire for sexual gratification which may or may not lead to reproduction

as stated before, IN VITRO fertilization is not an act of SEX because it serves no purpose for sexual gratification, and is in fact actually painful and far from pleasant or gratifying from what I have read


so, to recap

SEX- an act performed for SEXUAL gratification which might result in reproduction

REPRODUCTION- being able to create something again, in this case , human life


much like doctors place sperm in eggs to reproduce human life without ever having to involve SEX

(refer to the woman who decided to have man change her appearance to male and then decided to become 'pregnant' through non sexual measures, obviously)

God , IM sure, can pull that off and more

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Tue 09/06/11 07:29 AM





none of those verses mention anything about being a 'blind' follower, nor do they say that not following anyone will lead to fire


MsHarmony ...Jesus said to "OBEY" his teachings and those that do not will be tossed in the fire ....that verse sure implies "blindly" and leading to fire

you have a habit of running to the dictionary instead of the bible...run there and look up the word "obey"



no, jesus did not say that, Funches interpreted/paraprased what JEsus said INTO That,,,,

obey: to follow the commands or guidance of
2: to conform to or comply wit


...nothing about being 'blind', nothing that excludes reasoning or logic in the choice to follow or conform or comply,,,


MsHarmony...if you as a follower are questioning about following God blindly...is that an indication that you yourself personally wouldn't

befor you answer that question allow me to place your Free Will under "duress" by reminding you of the story of Adam and Eve

so MsHarmony....

1)would you follow God blindly
2)should we change the title of the biblical story from Adam and Eve to Adam and MsHarmony



no

blind: having no regard to rational discrimination, guidance, or restriction


IT wouldnt be blind if I consider the guidance rational, which I do and would,,,,


which is the same rational that Adam and Eve used....MsHarmony..it appears that you too would have had the human race fall from Grace ...

so let's change the story from Adam and Eve to Adam and MsHarmonty

and think about it... Adam and Eve didn't have the Bible or The Internet or any hindsight to make a decision from ...you do and still wouldn't follow God blindly....which points to a lack of faith

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Tue 09/06/11 07:45 AM







The religion nor the people condemn anyone. No one condemns anyone but themselves. We are foretold the outcome of certain actions, so if this someone wishes to do these certain actions, they would be condemning them self would they not be?

And no, the love of the father is not "homosexual" love, nor would it be if he impregnated me. HomoSEXual actions are those when two of the same gender have SEX. There would be no sexual intercourse involved if God wished for me to bare his child. Nor was there any sexual intercourse when Marry was impregnated with Jesus.


Cowboy...you and your father are of the same gender and if he place his holy spirit into you a Man like he place himself into Mary...then that would be homosexual sex

a person or entity that place "himself" inside a host for the purpose of reproduction is called sex


Only if placing himself inside of me involved a penis or some instrument used for sexual purposes. The father is in me, I invited him in a long time ago.

Once again, Sex = a man placing his penis inside of a woman or another man, and or fondling of the sexual organs. Or a woman fondling the sexual organs of another woman. And so forth, in one way or other it would involve two people fondling the sexual organs of another.

There would be none of this nor was there any of this when Marry was impregnated with Jesus.


Cowboy....you are a perfect example as to why they need to teach biology in sunday school....because you would have learn that sex and reproduction can occur without having to stick a tallywhacker into a forbidden fruit ..

speaking of fruit...do you also believe that fruit trees uproot in order to find another fruit tree to stick a tallywhacker in ....it is said that a vagina is the forbidden fruit but please tell me that you don't believe that fruit trees have a big old vaginas between it's tree bark

so please enough of that kiddy talk that the only form of sex is a man sticking his penis in a vagina ...

sex is reproduction ....and since you claim that you a Man was willing to becomes like woman so that your father could place himself into you for reproduction purposes....then that is homosexual sex

but anyway you claimed that you were willing to do anything for Jesus .....so if Jesus asked you to have homosexual sex...would you not do it?

please don't use the excuse of what Jesus won't ask you....since you claim that Jesus is God then God have asked many of his creations to violate his commandments and laws

so again Cowboy.....would you have homosexual sex if Jesus asked you


oversimplifying it doesnt make it true

sex is not reproduction, it is a MEANS of reproduction as not everyone who engages in SEX Will reproduce


In vitro fertilization is a way of reproduction that does not require 'sex'

so the two are not mutually inclusive


MsHarmony...sex is whatever method that is used to reproduce, sex other than the purpose of reproduction in the religious context refers to "Lust" ...weren't you paying attention to Cowboy's sermons about Lust ...in which he claims that sex is for reproduction and that lust is naughty

but anyway we are talking about God reproducing....are you trying to claim that God sometimes shoot blanks ...I'm not sure Mary would agree with you

this is why if it's God intentions to place himself inside Cowboy with the sole purpose of getting Cowboy pregnant...then that is reproduction and therefore sex....and since both Cowboy and his Father are Male...that makes it homosexual sex



still wrong

SEX Is not defined in the bible, it is defined in our modern dictionaries and text books

being FRUITFUL was one command given by God that involves sex
but it was not the ONLY purpose of SEX Between a (married) couple, it was also an expression of each belonging to the other(reproduction or not)

Sex , as an action, involves the desire for sexual gratification which may or may not lead to reproduction

as stated before, IN VITRO fertilization is not an act of SEX because it serves no purpose for sexual gratification, and is in fact actually painful and far from pleasant or gratifying from what I have read


so, to recap

SEX- an act performed for SEXUAL gratification which might result in reproduction

REPRODUCTION- being able to create something again, in this case , human life


much like doctors place sperm in eggs to reproduce human life without ever having to involve SEX

(refer to the woman who decided to have man change her appearance to male and then decided to become 'pregnant' through non sexual measures, obviously)

God , IM sure, can pull that off and more


wow MsHarmony finally goes to the bible.....unfortunely it was a bad time to do so....according to Genesis God commanded humans to be Fruitful and Multiply..but he also gave the same command to the animals ....whichs means sex and reproduction is not only about sticking a penis into a vagina since not ever animal on Earth reproduce using that method of sex ...you refuse to acknowledge that they are other methods of having sex


if God used himself as the method of getting Cowboy pregnant..then that is the method of sex God use to reproduce ...an egg simply can not be fertilize without sex being involved in some shape form of fashion ...all you are attmepting to do is deny that God is the Father of Cowboy's baby

CowboyGH's photo
Tue 09/06/11 08:07 AM








The religion nor the people condemn anyone. No one condemns anyone but themselves. We are foretold the outcome of certain actions, so if this someone wishes to do these certain actions, they would be condemning them self would they not be?

And no, the love of the father is not "homosexual" love, nor would it be if he impregnated me. HomoSEXual actions are those when two of the same gender have SEX. There would be no sexual intercourse involved if God wished for me to bare his child. Nor was there any sexual intercourse when Marry was impregnated with Jesus.


Cowboy...you and your father are of the same gender and if he place his holy spirit into you a Man like he place himself into Mary...then that would be homosexual sex

a person or entity that place "himself" inside a host for the purpose of reproduction is called sex


Only if placing himself inside of me involved a penis or some instrument used for sexual purposes. The father is in me, I invited him in a long time ago.

Once again, Sex = a man placing his penis inside of a woman or another man, and or fondling of the sexual organs. Or a woman fondling the sexual organs of another woman. And so forth, in one way or other it would involve two people fondling the sexual organs of another.

There would be none of this nor was there any of this when Marry was impregnated with Jesus.


Cowboy....you are a perfect example as to why they need to teach biology in sunday school....because you would have learn that sex and reproduction can occur without having to stick a tallywhacker into a forbidden fruit ..

speaking of fruit...do you also believe that fruit trees uproot in order to find another fruit tree to stick a tallywhacker in ....it is said that a vagina is the forbidden fruit but please tell me that you don't believe that fruit trees have a big old vaginas between it's tree bark

so please enough of that kiddy talk that the only form of sex is a man sticking his penis in a vagina ...

sex is reproduction ....and since you claim that you a Man was willing to becomes like woman so that your father could place himself into you for reproduction purposes....then that is homosexual sex

but anyway you claimed that you were willing to do anything for Jesus .....so if Jesus asked you to have homosexual sex...would you not do it?

please don't use the excuse of what Jesus won't ask you....since you claim that Jesus is God then God have asked many of his creations to violate his commandments and laws

so again Cowboy.....would you have homosexual sex if Jesus asked you


oversimplifying it doesnt make it true

sex is not reproduction, it is a MEANS of reproduction as not everyone who engages in SEX Will reproduce


In vitro fertilization is a way of reproduction that does not require 'sex'

so the two are not mutually inclusive


MsHarmony...sex is whatever method that is used to reproduce, sex other than the purpose of reproduction in the religious context refers to "Lust" ...weren't you paying attention to Cowboy's sermons about Lust ...in which he claims that sex is for reproduction and that lust is naughty

but anyway we are talking about God reproducing....are you trying to claim that God sometimes shoot blanks ...I'm not sure Mary would agree with you

this is why if it's God intentions to place himself inside Cowboy with the sole purpose of getting Cowboy pregnant...then that is reproduction and therefore sex....and since both Cowboy and his Father are Male...that makes it homosexual sex



still wrong

SEX Is not defined in the bible, it is defined in our modern dictionaries and text books

being FRUITFUL was one command given by God that involves sex
but it was not the ONLY purpose of SEX Between a (married) couple, it was also an expression of each belonging to the other(reproduction or not)

Sex , as an action, involves the desire for sexual gratification which may or may not lead to reproduction

as stated before, IN VITRO fertilization is not an act of SEX because it serves no purpose for sexual gratification, and is in fact actually painful and far from pleasant or gratifying from what I have read


so, to recap

SEX- an act performed for SEXUAL gratification which might result in reproduction

REPRODUCTION- being able to create something again, in this case , human life


much like doctors place sperm in eggs to reproduce human life without ever having to involve SEX

(refer to the woman who decided to have man change her appearance to male and then decided to become 'pregnant' through non sexual measures, obviously)

God , IM sure, can pull that off and more


wow MsHarmony finally goes to the bible.....unfortunely it was a bad time to do so....according to Genesis God commanded humans to be Fruitful and Multiply..but he also gave the same command to the animals ....whichs means sex and reproduction is not only about sticking a penis into a vagina since not ever animal on Earth reproduce using that method of sex ...you refuse to acknowledge that they are other methods of having sex


if God used himself as the method of getting Cowboy pregnant..then that is the method of sex God use to reproduce ...an egg simply can not be fertilize without sex being involved in some shape form of fashion ...all you are attmepting to do is deny that God is the Father of Cowboy's baby



wow MsHarmony finally goes to the bible.....unfortunely it was a bad time to do so....according to Genesis God commanded humans to be Fruitful and Multiply..but he also gave the same command to the animals ....whichs means sex and reproduction is not only about sticking a penis into a vagina since not ever animal on Earth reproduce using that method of sex ...you refuse to acknowledge that they are other methods of having sex


What are you talking about? Doesn't matter if there are other methods of having sex, sex is sacred between a married WOMAN and MAN.

What purpose does homosexual sex present? What does one gain from homosexuality? No reproduction occurs from it, it potentially can be life threatening with many diseases attached to that form of sex.

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Tue 09/06/11 11:33 AM


2 Timothy 2:23


Don't have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels.



1 Timothy 1:4

nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies. These promote controversies rather than God's work--which is by faith.


1 Timothy 6:4

he is conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions


2 Timothy 2:14

Keep reminding them of these things. Warn them before God against quarreling about words; it is of no value, and only ruins those who listen.


Titus 3:9

But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless.


James 4:1

What causes fights and quarrels among you? Don't they come from your desires that battle within you?

New International Version



:heart::heart::heart:


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Tue 09/06/11 11:36 AM



2 Timothy 2:23


Don't have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels.



1 Timothy 1:4

nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies. These promote controversies rather than God's work--which is by faith.


1 Timothy 6:4

he is conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions


2 Timothy 2:14

Keep reminding them of these things. Warn them before God against quarreling about words; it is of no value, and only ruins those who listen.


Titus 3:9

But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless.


James 4:1

What causes fights and quarrels among you? Don't they come from your desires that battle within you?

New International Version



:heart::heart::heart:




Very nice post MorningSong :) very nice uplifting verses.

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Tue 09/06/11 11:47 AM
Edited by MorningSong on Tue 09/06/11 11:53 AM
Asking Questions to LEARN is One thing........


Asking FOOLISH questions to just "get one's goat" ,is

Another thing entirely.


flowerforyou

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Tue 09/06/11 11:52 AM

Asking Questions to learn is One thing........


Asking FOOLISH questions to just "get one's goat" ,is

Another thing entirely.


flowerforyou


You are so wise! flowerforyou :banana:

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Tue 09/06/11 04:34 PM








The religion nor the people condemn anyone. No one condemns anyone but themselves. We are foretold the outcome of certain actions, so if this someone wishes to do these certain actions, they would be condemning them self would they not be?

And no, the love of the father is not "homosexual" love, nor would it be if he impregnated me. HomoSEXual actions are those when two of the same gender have SEX. There would be no sexual intercourse involved if God wished for me to bare his child. Nor was there any sexual intercourse when Marry was impregnated with Jesus.


Cowboy...you and your father are of the same gender and if he place his holy spirit into you a Man like he place himself into Mary...then that would be homosexual sex

a person or entity that place "himself" inside a host for the purpose of reproduction is called sex


Only if placing himself inside of me involved a penis or some instrument used for sexual purposes. The father is in me, I invited him in a long time ago.

Once again, Sex = a man placing his penis inside of a woman or another man, and or fondling of the sexual organs. Or a woman fondling the sexual organs of another woman. And so forth, in one way or other it would involve two people fondling the sexual organs of another.

There would be none of this nor was there any of this when Marry was impregnated with Jesus.


Cowboy....you are a perfect example as to why they need to teach biology in sunday school....because you would have learn that sex and reproduction can occur without having to stick a tallywhacker into a forbidden fruit ..

speaking of fruit...do you also believe that fruit trees uproot in order to find another fruit tree to stick a tallywhacker in ....it is said that a vagina is the forbidden fruit but please tell me that you don't believe that fruit trees have a big old vaginas between it's tree bark

so please enough of that kiddy talk that the only form of sex is a man sticking his penis in a vagina ...

sex is reproduction ....and since you claim that you a Man was willing to becomes like woman so that your father could place himself into you for reproduction purposes....then that is homosexual sex

but anyway you claimed that you were willing to do anything for Jesus .....so if Jesus asked you to have homosexual sex...would you not do it?

please don't use the excuse of what Jesus won't ask you....since you claim that Jesus is God then God have asked many of his creations to violate his commandments and laws

so again Cowboy.....would you have homosexual sex if Jesus asked you


oversimplifying it doesnt make it true

sex is not reproduction, it is a MEANS of reproduction as not everyone who engages in SEX Will reproduce


In vitro fertilization is a way of reproduction that does not require 'sex'

so the two are not mutually inclusive


MsHarmony...sex is whatever method that is used to reproduce, sex other than the purpose of reproduction in the religious context refers to "Lust" ...weren't you paying attention to Cowboy's sermons about Lust ...in which he claims that sex is for reproduction and that lust is naughty

but anyway we are talking about God reproducing....are you trying to claim that God sometimes shoot blanks ...I'm not sure Mary would agree with you

this is why if it's God intentions to place himself inside Cowboy with the sole purpose of getting Cowboy pregnant...then that is reproduction and therefore sex....and since both Cowboy and his Father are Male...that makes it homosexual sex



still wrong

SEX Is not defined in the bible, it is defined in our modern dictionaries and text books

being FRUITFUL was one command given by God that involves sex
but it was not the ONLY purpose of SEX Between a (married) couple, it was also an expression of each belonging to the other(reproduction or not)

Sex , as an action, involves the desire for sexual gratification which may or may not lead to reproduction

as stated before, IN VITRO fertilization is not an act of SEX because it serves no purpose for sexual gratification, and is in fact actually painful and far from pleasant or gratifying from what I have read


so, to recap

SEX- an act performed for SEXUAL gratification which might result in reproduction

REPRODUCTION- being able to create something again, in this case , human life


much like doctors place sperm in eggs to reproduce human life without ever having to involve SEX

(refer to the woman who decided to have man change her appearance to male and then decided to become 'pregnant' through non sexual measures, obviously)

God , IM sure, can pull that off and more


wow MsHarmony finally goes to the bible.....unfortunely it was a bad time to do so....according to Genesis God commanded humans to be Fruitful and Multiply..but he also gave the same command to the animals ....whichs means sex and reproduction is not only about sticking a penis into a vagina since not ever animal on Earth reproduce using that method of sex ...you refuse to acknowledge that they are other methods of having sex


if God used himself as the method of getting Cowboy pregnant..then that is the method of sex God use to reproduce ...an egg simply can not be fertilize without sex being involved in some shape form of fashion ...all you are attmepting to do is deny that God is the Father of Cowboy's baby



still falsely assigning definitions...

SEX is not a biblical term, it is a word we use in the english language to describe an ACTIVITY involving use of the body for SEXUAL GRATIFICATION

being fruitful only means reproducing, reproducing doesnt require SEX for every species,,,,

reproduction that occurs without sex is called ASEXUAL

several species are capable of such ASEXUAL reproduction,,,IM sure their creator would be too,,,,




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Tue 09/06/11 04:36 PM






none of those verses mention anything about being a 'blind' follower, nor do they say that not following anyone will lead to fire


MsHarmony ...Jesus said to "OBEY" his teachings and those that do not will be tossed in the fire ....that verse sure implies "blindly" and leading to fire

you have a habit of running to the dictionary instead of the bible...run there and look up the word "obey"



no, jesus did not say that, Funches interpreted/paraprased what JEsus said INTO That,,,,

obey: to follow the commands or guidance of
2: to conform to or comply wit


...nothing about being 'blind', nothing that excludes reasoning or logic in the choice to follow or conform or comply,,,


MsHarmony...if you as a follower are questioning about following God blindly...is that an indication that you yourself personally wouldn't

befor you answer that question allow me to place your Free Will under "duress" by reminding you of the story of Adam and Eve

so MsHarmony....

1)would you follow God blindly
2)should we change the title of the biblical story from Adam and Eve to Adam and MsHarmony



no

blind: having no regard to rational discrimination, guidance, or restriction


IT wouldnt be blind if I consider the guidance rational, which I do and would,,,,


which is the same rational that Adam and Eve used....MsHarmony..it appears that you too would have had the human race fall from Grace ...

so let's change the story from Adam and Eve to Adam and MsHarmonty

and think about it... Adam and Eve didn't have the Bible or The Internet or any hindsight to make a decision from ...you do and still wouldn't follow God blindly....which points to a lack of faith




no , Blind faith is still a pointless human term

faith can and does involve logic and choice as much as any other decision does

I would have trusted in God, thinking logically, before trusting some animal slithering in the ground who had created NOTHING and provided me NOTHING so far,, Id have trusted in Gods words and instructions to avoid death

AdventureBegins's photo
Tue 09/06/11 07:46 PM
Edited by AdventureBegins on Tue 09/06/11 07:50 PM
'being FRUITFUL was one command given by God that involves sex
but it was not the ONLY purpose of SEX Between a (married) couple, it was also an expression of each belonging to the other(reproduction or not)'


perfect example of a 'penile' slip...

By an entire Generation,.


Be fruitful as in genesis applies to a plethora of concepts and mankind sees only sex...

A community built is a form of 'fruitfull'.

A producing farm is a form of 'fruitfull'.

an advancing civilization is a form of ''fruitfull'...

and yet most see only the least portion of the cornucopia that is present in the word of god.

What do YOU think god meant by this?

CowboyGH's photo
Tue 09/06/11 08:34 PM

'being FRUITFUL was one command given by God that involves sex
but it was not the ONLY purpose of SEX Between a (married) couple, it was also an expression of each belonging to the other(reproduction or not)'


perfect example of a 'penile' slip...

By an entire Generation,.


Be fruitful as in genesis applies to a plethora of concepts and mankind sees only sex...

A community built is a form of 'fruitfull'.

A producing farm is a form of 'fruitfull'.

an advancing civilization is a form of ''fruitfull'...

and yet most see only the least portion of the cornucopia that is present in the word of god.

What do YOU think god meant by this?


Very good reasoning, being fruitful isn't secluded to sexual things.

He said be fruitful and fill the Earth.

The being fruitful is separated from filling the Earth. Two different instructions. So therefore as your post is accurate. We are to be fruitful in what we do and not to do things that could bring any harm, that would not be fruitful, we are to do good, which is fruitful, brings joy to families and helps them out if the specific occasion of being fruitful was helping a family out.

Genesis 1:28

28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

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Tue 09/06/11 09:05 PM
I don't know about that. I think "be fruitful and multiply" definitely means... go have children.

You can't "build a community" without people.

You can't work a farm without workers... people.

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Tue 09/06/11 09:07 PM

I don't know about that. I think "be fruitful and multiply" definitely means... go have children.

You can't "build a community" without people.

You can't work a farm without workers... people.


Then why would the same thing be mentioned in the same sentence in a different way?

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Tue 09/06/11 09:10 PM


I don't know about that. I think "be fruitful and multiply" definitely means... go have children.

You can't "build a community" without people.

You can't work a farm without workers... people.


Then why would the same thing be mentioned in the same sentence in a different way?


I don't know what sentence you are referring to.

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Tue 09/06/11 09:13 PM
Edited by CowboyGH on Tue 09/06/11 09:14 PM



I don't know about that. I think "be fruitful and multiply" definitely means... go have children.

You can't "build a community" without people.

You can't work a farm without workers... people.


Then why would the same thing be mentioned in the same sentence in a different way?


I don't know what sentence you are referring to.


If being fruitful pertained solely to procreation, why would it the procreation statement have to be made twice in one sentence? And or why would it be? God said to be fruitful AND multiply in the Earth. Two separate instructions.

Genesis 1:28

28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

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Tue 09/06/11 09:20 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 09/06/11 09:22 PM




I don't know about that. I think "be fruitful and multiply" definitely means... go have children.

You can't "build a community" without people.

You can't work a farm without workers... people.


Then why would the same thing be mentioned in the same sentence in a different way?


I don't know what sentence you are referring to.


If being fruitful pertained solely to procreation, why would it the procreation statement have to be made twice in one sentence? And or why would it be? God said to be fruitful AND multiply in the Earth. Two separate instructions.

Genesis 1:28

28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.


It was not stated twice.

The "be fruitful" was the blessing given and "multiply" was the result of the blessing.

You cannot multiply if you cannot be fruitful.

"...and God blessed them..."

God blessed them by saying "Be fruitful!" (If you are blessed with being fruitful, you will multiply your numbers.)

BE FRUITFUL was the blessing.

It's like saying, HAVE A NICE DAY!

It is the blessing.




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Tue 09/06/11 09:23 PM





I don't know about that. I think "be fruitful and multiply" definitely means... go have children.

You can't "build a community" without people.

You can't work a farm without workers... people.


Then why would the same thing be mentioned in the same sentence in a different way?


I don't know what sentence you are referring to.


If being fruitful pertained solely to procreation, why would it the procreation statement have to be made twice in one sentence? And or why would it be? God said to be fruitful AND multiply in the Earth. Two separate instructions.

Genesis 1:28

28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.


It was not stated twice.

The "be fruitful" was the blessing given and "multiply" was the result of the blessing.

You cannot multiply if you cannot be fruitful.

"...and God blessed them..."

God blessed them by saying "Be fruitful!" (If you are blessed with being fruitful, you will multiply your numbers.)

BE FRUITFUL was the blessing.

It's like saying, HAVE A NICE DAY!

It is the blessing.






Sure you can, there are many people whom can not have kids but lead fruitful lives.

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