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Redykeulous
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By virture of the term 'mono' ALL monotheistic religions are intolerable, sometimes even among those who claim the same label. How can they be otherwise? The idea that any one is worse than another may only be a matter of what one has grown accustom to. I agree. I will go further to argue that 'intolerable' is a fairly vague term devoid of any positive or negative absolute. as humans we all have some things we cannot 'tolerate' , which makes us 'intolerant' to some things the bible and our laws are examples of what a culture will not 'tolerate as well as what it will,, Yes - WELL that and one other little thing. Each monotheistic religion has a singular god. When there is a singular god with very specific characteristics and attributes and a set of rules bestowed by the god, then we have the conditions of "my god is the one and only 'right' god. Thus the claim "all monotheisitc religions are intolerable,they do not tolerate the god of any other religion. I thought monotheistic merely designated the number of Gods,, not which God that is to say, If I believe in GOD, and someone else believes in ALLAH,,, it is not impossible for me to consider they are one in the same just as some call me by one name (my first) and others by my middle, yet they refer to the same individual... Well Redy - you are wrong here. Monotheism by it's nature is not intolerant of other religions. Jews and Muslims in particular hold that righteous people will be recognized on their actions alone regardless of their religion or observances. Many Christians also would accept that good people would never be punished by Jesus on the basis of their ignorance despite the active missionary movement. As I have said in other threads if there is only One God then it is clearly the same God for everyone. So it would be rather silly for such a God to discriminate based on whether someone observed Easter or Ramadan or Yom Kippur. 
Which gets to MsHarmonys comment. If there is only One God it is logically the same God for everyone. But of course it makes no difference what you call God - Jesus, Buddha, Allah, Yahweh or Redd Foxx and it certainly makes no sense to attempt to describe God in anthropomorphic terms. Although if you wish to picture him as an Asian 3 month old girl then it is fine. And God doesn't care whether you "believe" in One God or faeries either. God has made me come to realize this all on my own - but I do not claim to be a prophet.
The following are different Christian sects. They all claim to have the same god - yet they often point to each other and say "I'm right, you're wrong and you will not be saved". If monotheism was merely the acceptance of a single godhead, then all monotheistic religions would be tolerant of each other. But monotheism tends to be accompanied by specific beliefs about that one god which seems totally contradict the theory that all monotheistic religions have only a single godhead. No matter, one god or many, tolerance is not a built in feature of monothesim or every sect on the list would still be Catholic. Catholic Church Eastern Catholic Churches Independent (self-identified as Catholic) Orthodoxy Protestantism Lutheranism Anglicanism Reformed Churches Presbyterianism Congregationalist Churches Anabaptists Brethren Methodists Pietists and Holiness Churches Baptists Spiritual Baptists Apostolic Churches – Irvingites Pentecostalism Charismatics Neo-Charismatic Churches Latter Day Saints Oriental Orthodoxy Assyrian Church Oneness Pentecostalism Unitarianism and Universalism Swedenborgianism Messianic Judaism Jewish Christians Esoteric Christianity |
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nor of mankind,,,,,
survival instincts , environmental adaptation, all affect mans 'tolerance' levels |
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Because we're free...If you don't agree with that you are in the wrong country. define "free"... Doesn't matter, religion is still covered. There is nothing you, or anyone else can say that is going to change that because it has been, and more than likely will always be covered. Freedom is a *****, don't agree with it...Leave. |
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By virture of the term 'mono' ALL monotheistic religions are intolerable, sometimes even among those who claim the same label. How can they be otherwise? The idea that any one is worse than another may only be a matter of what one has grown accustom to. I agree. I will go further to argue that 'intolerable' is a fairly vague term devoid of any positive or negative absolute. as humans we all have some things we cannot 'tolerate' , which makes us 'intolerant' to some things the bible and our laws are examples of what a culture will not 'tolerate as well as what it will,, Yes - WELL that and one other little thing. Each monotheistic religion has a singular god. When there is a singular god with very specific characteristics and attributes and a set of rules bestowed by the god, then we have the conditions of "my god is the one and only 'right' god. Thus the claim "all monotheisitc religions are intolerable,they do not tolerate the god of any other religion. I thought monotheistic merely designated the number of Gods,, not which God that is to say, If I believe in GOD, and someone else believes in ALLAH,,, it is not impossible for me to consider they are one in the same just as some call me by one name (my first) and others by my middle, yet they refer to the same individual... Well Redy - you are wrong here. Monotheism by it's nature is not intolerant of other religions. Jews and Muslims in particular hold that righteous people will be recognized on their actions alone regardless of their religion or observances. Many Christians also would accept that good people would never be punished by Jesus on the basis of their ignorance despite the active missionary movement. As I have said in other threads if there is only One God then it is clearly the same God for everyone. So it would be rather silly for such a God to discriminate based on whether someone observed Easter or Ramadan or Yom Kippur.
Which gets to MsHarmonys comment. If there is only One God it is logically the same God for everyone. But of course it makes no difference what you call God - Jesus, Buddha, Allah, Yahweh or Redd Foxx and it certainly makes no sense to attempt to describe God in anthropomorphic terms. Although if you wish to picture him as an Asian 3 month old girl then it is fine. And God doesn't care whether you "believe" in One God or faeries either. God has made me come to realize this all on my own - but I do not claim to be a prophet.
The following are different Christian sects. They all claim to have the same god - yet they often point to each other and say "I'm right, you're wrong and you will not be saved". If monotheism was merely the acceptance of a single godhead, then all monotheistic religions would be tolerant of each other. But monotheism tends to be accompanied by specific beliefs about that one god which seems totally contradict the theory that all monotheistic religions have only a single godhead. No matter, one god or many, tolerance is not a built in feature of monothesim or every sect on the list would still be Catholic. Catholic Church Eastern Catholic Churches Independent (self-identified as Catholic) Orthodoxy Protestantism Lutheranism Anglicanism Reformed Churches Presbyterianism Congregationalist Churches Anabaptists Brethren Methodists Pietists and Holiness Churches Baptists Spiritual Baptists Apostolic Churches – Irvingites Pentecostalism Charismatics Neo-Charismatic Churches Latter Day Saints Oriental Orthodoxy Assyrian Church Oneness Pentecostalism Unitarianism and Universalism Swedenborgianism Messianic Judaism Jewish Christians Esoteric Christianity I have actually attended church at several of the denominations on the list,, they use the same book,, say basically the same things the differences are too minute to really argue over,, for me anyhow I even study with jehovah witnesses because of their knowledge of the bible,,, although I am not in agreement with some of their numeric calculations,,, |
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By virture of the term 'mono' ALL monotheistic religions are intolerable, sometimes even among those who claim the same label. How can they be otherwise? The idea that any one is worse than another may only be a matter of what one has grown accustom to. I agree. I will go further to argue that 'intolerable' is a fairly vague term devoid of any positive or negative absolute. as humans we all have some things we cannot 'tolerate' , which makes us 'intolerant' to some things the bible and our laws are examples of what a culture will not 'tolerate as well as what it will,, Yes - WELL that and one other little thing. Each monotheistic religion has a singular god. When there is a singular god with very specific characteristics and attributes and a set of rules bestowed by the god, then we have the conditions of "my god is the one and only 'right' god. Thus the claim "all monotheisitc religions are intolerable,they do not tolerate the god of any other religion. I thought monotheistic merely designated the number of Gods,, not which God that is to say, If I believe in GOD, and someone else believes in ALLAH,,, it is not impossible for me to consider they are one in the same just as some call me by one name (my first) and others by my middle, yet they refer to the same individual... Well Redy - you are wrong here. Monotheism by it's nature is not intolerant of other religions. Jews and Muslims in particular hold that righteous people will be recognized on their actions alone regardless of their religion or observances. Many Christians also would accept that good people would never be punished by Jesus on the basis of their ignorance despite the active missionary movement. As I have said in other threads if there is only One God then it is clearly the same God for everyone. So it would be rather silly for such a God to discriminate based on whether someone observed Easter or Ramadan or Yom Kippur.
Which gets to MsHarmonys comment. If there is only One God it is logically the same God for everyone. But of course it makes no difference what you call God - Jesus, Buddha, Allah, Yahweh or Redd Foxx and it certainly makes no sense to attempt to describe God in anthropomorphic terms. Although if you wish to picture him as an Asian 3 month old girl then it is fine. And God doesn't care whether you "believe" in One God or faeries either. God has made me come to realize this all on my own - but I do not claim to be a prophet.
The following are different Christian sects. They all claim to have the same god - yet they often point to each other and say "I'm right, you're wrong and you will not be saved". If monotheism was merely the acceptance of a single godhead, then all monotheistic religions would be tolerant of each other. But monotheism tends to be accompanied by specific beliefs about that one god which seems totally contradict the theory that all monotheistic religions have only a single godhead. No matter, one god or many, tolerance is not a built in feature of monothesim or every sect on the list would still be Catholic. Catholic Church Eastern Catholic Churches Independent (self-identified as Catholic) Orthodoxy Protestantism Lutheranism Anglicanism Reformed Churches Presbyterianism Congregationalist Churches Anabaptists Brethren Methodists Pietists and Holiness Churches Baptists Spiritual Baptists Apostolic Churches – Irvingites Pentecostalism Charismatics Neo-Charismatic Churches Latter Day Saints Oriental Orthodoxy Assyrian Church Oneness Pentecostalism Unitarianism and Universalism Swedenborgianism Messianic Judaism Jewish Christians Esoteric Christianity I have actually attended church at several of the denominations on the list,, they use the same book,, say basically the same things the differences are too minute to really argue over,, for me anyhow I even study with jehovah witnesses because of their knowledge of the bible,,, although I am not in agreement with some of their numeric calculations,,, I also view all these different sects as being just slight variations in observance of the same fundamental theology. They should all agree that each is following the same One God and that others even non-Christians should be given the latitude to have their own observances without one being inherently a better observance than another. So, Jews, Muslims and Christians all *should* believe in freedom of religion and religious tolerance. Intolerance is not a feature of monotheism but of individuals who wish to elevate themselves above others without justification. |
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