Topic: Looney Paul Leaving Congress! :)
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Wed 07/13/11 03:12 PM

We will not have a conservative in office in 2013.

They are showing their a$$ so much now in congress no one wants them in there anymore.


from a liberals prospective...lol obama and his do nothing sidekicks are pretty much already out... especially now that he showing he can't lead and take control on the debt talks...

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Wed 07/13/11 03:12 PM
Edited by Spidercmb on Wed 07/13/11 03:15 PM

We will not have a conservative in office in 2013.

They are showing their a$$ so much now in congress no one wants them in there anymore.


You and I voted in the past election, right? I'm assuming you did, you are a civic minded woman. But did your great-grandchildren vote? Mine didn't. But our Government is spending their money, which hasn't even been earned yet. That's taxation without representation. It's criminal. I can't tell you how strongly I support the Republicans in refusing tax increases. Their surest way to not be elected in 2012 would be to agree to raise taxes.

Dragoness's photo
Wed 07/13/11 03:17 PM


We will not have a conservative in office in 2013.

They are showing their a$$ so much now in congress no one wants them in there anymore.


You and I voted in the past election, right? I'm assuming you did, you are a civic minded woman. But did your great-grandchildren vote? Mine didn't. But our Government is spending their money, which hasn't even been earned yet. That's taxation without representation. It's criminal. I can't tell you how strongly I support the Republicans in refusing tax increases. Their surest way to not be elected in 2012 would be to agree to raise taxes.


If they don't raise taxes on someone besides the elderly's social security I will be one pissed individual and will be letting them know as I already am.

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Wed 07/13/11 03:19 PM






I really do not understand why you would call him loony. He is the most rational candidate running.

The press release actually got his platform correct for once, and it is anything but crazy.

You cannot fix something that is huge, complex, and out of whack by making it larger, and that is what the other candidates do not understand.


Not!noway
Really, is that the only thing you have to say? That you disagree, but you are not going to detail why?

It really does not color your opinion in a good light that you cannot articulate why.


You did not articulate any pros to him so you are in the same light as meslaphead Welcome to the not good light

He is a racist lunatic! That is as good of a reason as any. I looked him up and researched him.

He is racist and he is a lunatic by definition. Just look up the definition, it fits him well.

The only thing people try to pass off that makes him "good" is he is an MD who delivered babies and all races of babies is suppose to clear up his racism charge...lol slaphead
There are no good sorry a$$holes who are doctors and deliver thousands of babies that doesn't stop them from being sorry no good a$$holes.

you are just guessing, you don't know if he is a racist or not... just more liberal propaganda... you don't like him because he is anti gay...


Anti gay is another reason to not like him. I don't guess about racism, it is usually obviously there.

Ron Paul '90s newsletters rant against blacks, gays
January 10, 2008|From Brian Todd CNN

A series of newsletters in the name of GOP presidential hopeful Ron Paul contain several racist remarks -- including one that says order was restored to Los Angeles after the 1992 riots when blacks went "to pick up their welfare checks."

CNN recently obtained the newsletters -- written in the 1990s and one from the late 1980s -- after a report was published about their existence in The New Republic.

None of the newsletters CNN found says who wrote them, but each was published under Paul's name between his stints as a U.S. congressman from Texas.
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Paul told CNN's "The Situation Room" Thursday that he didn't write any of the offensive articles and has "no idea" who did. Watch Paul's full interview with CNN

"When you bring this question up, you're really saying, 'You're a racist' or 'Are you a racist?' And the answer is, 'No, I'm not a racist,'" he said.

Paul said he had never even read the articles with the racist comments. See the newsletter excerpts for yourself

"I do repudiate everything that is written along those lines," he said, adding he wanted to "make sure everybody knew where I stood on this position because it's obviously wrong."

But that's not good enough, says one political veteran.

"These stories may be very old in Ron Paul's life, but they're very new to the American public and they deserve to be totally ventilated," said David Gergen, a CNN senior political analyst. "I must say I don't think there's an excuse in politics to have something go out under your name and say, 'Oh by the way, I didn't write that.'"

Paul, who is not considered a front-runner, has become an Internet phenomenon in the current race, raising tens of millions of dollars from a devoted online base, many of them young people drawn to his libertarian straight talk. See where the money is coming from

The controversial newsletters include rants against the Israeli lobby, gays, AIDS victims and Martin Luther King Jr. -- described as a "pro-Communist philanderer." One newsletter, from June 1992, right after the LA riots, says "order was only restored in L.A. when it came time for the blacks to pick up their welfare checks."

Another says, "The criminals who terrorize our cities -- in riots and on every non-riot day -- are not exclusively young black males, but they largely are. As children, they are trained to hate whites, to believe that white oppression is responsible for all black ills, to 'fight the power,' to steal and loot as much money from the white enemy as possible."

http://articles.cnn.com/2008-01-10/politics/paul.newsletters_1_newsletters-blacks-whites?_s=PM:POLITICS



Matt Corley , ThinkProgress at 6:48 AM on January 9, 2008.
comments_imageCOMMENTS:
Ron Paul's Old Newsletters Filled With Deeply Racist, Anti-Semitic and Homophobic Rants
Beginning in 1978, Rep. Ron Paul's (R-TX) name graced newsletters that were released on a seemingly monthly basis: Ron Paul's Freedom Report, Ron Paul Political Report, The Ron Paul Survival Report. "The Freedom Report's online archives only go back to 1999," but The New Republic's Jamie Kirchick recently tracked down physical copies of many of the pre-1999 reports.

According to Kirchick, they're peppered with a "decades worth of obsession with conspiracies, sympathy for the right-wing militia movement, and deeply held bigotry against blacks, Jews, and gays." Here are a few examples:

On David Duke: "Our priority should be to take the anti-government, anti-tax, anti-crime, anti-welfare loafers, anti-race privilege, anti-foreign meddling message of Duke, and enclose it in a more consistent package of freedom."

On Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.: "[A] comsymp, if not an actual party member, and the man who replaced the evil of forced segregation with the evil of forced integration."

On African-Americans: "I've urged everyone in my family to know how to use a gun in self defense. For the animals are coming."

On Gays: "Homosexuals, not to speak of the rest of society, were far better off when social pressure forced them to hide their activities."

In his article, Kirchick writes that "with few bylines, it is difficult to know whether any particular article was written by Paul himself" and that "the vast majority of the editions" that he "saw contain no bylines at all." Paul emphasized this point in his response to the article:

The quotations in The New Republic article are not mine and do not represent what I believe or have ever believed. I have never uttered such words and denounce such small-minded thoughts. [...]

Several writers contributed to the product. For over a decade, I have publically taken moral responsibility for not paying closer attention to what went out under my name.

But as Kirchick -- who has been criticizing Paul for months -- notes, "t is difficult to imagine how Paul could allow material consistently saturated in racism, homophobia, anti-Semitism, and conspiracy-mongering to be printed under his name for so long if he did not share these views."

Some of Paul's supporters in the blogosphere give him more of the benefit of the doubt, but still admit that the "truly odious material" released under his name is "really stunning." Andrew Sullivan writes that "it's up to Ron Paul now to clearly explain and disown these ugly, vile, despicable tracts from the past." PDFs of some of the old newsletters can be found here.

UPDATE: A 1992 Ron Paul Political Report said: "I think we can safely assume that 95% of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal."

UPDATE II via Sara Robinson @ Group News Blog: Ron Paul Supporters Passing the Buck (as Usual)

With The New Republic's release of some of Ron Paul's greatest newsletter hits, we're hearing a chorus of screeching from the Ronbots -- here, there, and everywhere -- about how he didn't know what was going on, and he didn't really mean it, and besides, he was just so busy....

Paul himself made a statement earlier today repeating pretty much the same tropes:

This story is old news and has been rehashed for over a decade. It's once again being resurrected for obvious political reasons on the day of the New Hampshire primary.

"When I was out of Congress and practicing medicine full-time, a newsletter was published under my name that I did not edit. Several writers contributed to the product. For over a decade, I have publicly taken moral responsibility for not paying closer attention to what went out under my name.

I'm sorry, but no. This simply doesn't wash. I don't doubt for a moment that Paul doesn't sincerely regret the contents of over 15 years of assorted newsletters that went out under his name (he published several different ones) -- and presumably, under his ownership and for his own profit as well.

But even the most abject apology doesn't address the larger question, which is: How do people expect a man who can't exercise basic oversight for a lousy monthly newsletter to take full responsibility for the entirety of the government of the most powerful nation on earth?

Since libertarians are supposed to be all about running the government by the standards of private business, let me clue you in on how this kind of lackadaisical failure-to-pay-attention goes down in the private sector.

If somebody goes into court to get out of a contract because "My lawyer wrote it for me, and I didn't really read it, even though I did sign my name to it," the judge will rightly laugh them right out of the courtroom -- and probably award the plaintiff extra damages just for the stupidity factor.

A corporate manager who claims, "Oh, some underling of mine let that defective product out onto the market -- I wasn't really watching, so I had nothing to do with it" is still going to be out of a job so fast he'll have asphalt marks on the butt of his Brooks Brothers suit.

And if I, as a former writer of national award-winning corporate newsletters, overheard the CEO of one of my Fortune 500 client companies trying to pin something in one of those newsletters on little underpaid me, I (and everyone else) would laugh him off the dais. The fact is: my clients bought and paid for those words. They were "work for hire" -- which means the company's executives read and approved every word; and they owned those words outright, legally, practically, and morally, starting the moment my check cleared.

Paul may not have written those words, or even seen them. But he bought and paid for them -- and no doubt, he was happy to bank the handsome profit they made him. (If he's really sorry, he might demonstrate the fact by donating every cent of those profits to the NAACP.) And thus he owns them as surely as if had written them with his own hand. The only people who could accept this weak-assed excuse-making are the ones who are willing to abandon their better sense just as fast as Paul abandoned accountability for the things he published in papers he owned.

We've already had seven long years under a Texas phony who doesn't believe in any kind of accountability or oversight, and refuses to accept responsibility for his own mistakes. The very last thing this country needs is another big dose of the same Houston swampfog. If Ron Paul didn't know what was happening at his newsletters, it's damning proof that he's an incompetent manager. If he did, it's even more damning proof that he's a racist (and a liar to boot).

Either one disqualifies him for any kind of elective office (except as a representative of racists, which it's now more obvious that he is). And all that Paulbot howling aside, it's time for the rest of us to recognize that, and move on.

(And, speaking as one of the two bloggers who first warned you about this side of Paul way back seven months ago -- and have the flak wounds, including quite a few from people on our own side, to show for it -- here's the heads-up: Next time we tell you someone's a closet racist, spare us all the angst and friendly fire, and consider that we just might know what we're talking about, OK?)

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/73205


That is enough for now.

I am barely ever wrong about racism.





He asked for it and you gave him dessert as well..., Cheers to you drinker :wink:

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Wed 07/13/11 03:19 PM
I vote faithfully and encourage and help friends to understand what is going on so they can vote knowledgeably.

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Wed 07/13/11 03:55 PM
Dear Concerned American,

President Obama must be grinning from ear to ear.

Not only has the news reported yesterday that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is scheming to raise the debt ceiling with no real spending cuts, but if this plan goes through, Senator McConnell will have handed yet more power over to the Executive Branch - just because the Senate GOP Leadership doesn't want to have to "deal with it" again!

In addition to surrendering more of Congress' power to President Obama, there is no timetable for the cuts in the bill - so they're rendered effectively meaningless.

And the ceiling will be raised "automatically" THREE TIMES during this Congress alone!

If this plan goes through, Senator McConnell will have betrayed you, me, and every other freedom-loving patriot in America.

That's why it's vital you sign the petition urging your representative and senators to oppose Mitch McConnell's raw deal - and any other phony compromise on the debt ceiling - IMMEDIATELY.



Worried about what could happen to them should they actually KEEP THEIR PROMISE to the American people to cut spending, McConnell and the Senate GOP Leadership are just deciding to hand off the responsibility of hiking our nation's debt to President Obama.

The truth is, when I first read the news, I could hardly believe it.

Instead of even bothering to try to cut spending, Mitch McConnell just wants to give President Obama a free pass to keep our deficit skyrocketing.

This is the LAST thing we need.

Our national debt is $14.3 TRILLION. The "official" unemployment rate is over 9%!

Our country's deficit is increasing at a rate of nearly $4 BILLION per day.

How bad do things have to be before our politicians start showing they are SERIOUS about solving our problems?

But instead, it appears Mitch McConnell would just rather keep up the big spending, business as usual status quo regardless of the cost to the American people.

I can hardly imagine the political fallout if such a deal goes through.

Republicans were put back in power during the last election to STOP the runaway spending in Washington, D.C. and stand up to President Obama - not cut "deals" or run away from fights with their tails between their legs.

Should they cave on their Tea Party mandate now, I believe the GOP will pay a severe price at the ballot box in 2012.

I also think that President Obama believes the same.

You see, he knows the American people are outraged and demanding true change.

But he's also desperate to keep the government's out-of-control spending machine rolling along, so he's eager to create yet another meaningless deal that provides him with some campaign trail rhetoric about supposed "change."

Now is the time to press our advantage and reform Washington.

It's time to show some backbone.



After all, if the Republican Leadership won't join me in FIGHTING the Big Spending, Big Government status quo in Washington, D.C. NOW, when will they ever?

To win this fight we must get hundreds of Members of Congress to keep the pressure up on Speaker Boehner, Mitch McConnell, and the rest of the Republican Leadership.

Any "deal" to raise the debt limit that doesn't include "Cut, Cap, and Balance" needs to be declared dead on arrival.

Quite simply, I am running for President to fundamentally change the way government operates, not just tinker around the edges.

I was the first Presidential candidate to sign on to the "Cut, Cap, and Balance" pledge.

The "Cut, Cap, and Balance" pledge states that members of Congress will not vote to give even a dollar more to raise the debt ceiling without certain conditions being met.

These conditions include one-year cuts in spending totaling at least $500 BILLION, a cap on federal spending, AND passage of the Mike Lee/Rand Paul Balanced Budget Amendment.

You and I cannot allow our elected officials to continue to throw our country's future down the drain with backroom deals and reckless, unchecked spending.

It's vital we FORCE Washington, D.C. to change course right NOW!

But it's going to take a massive outpouring of grassroots opposition from folks like you to make that happen.

Every representative and senator needs to hear from millions of Americans that any business as usual compromise is unacceptable.

So please help me defeat any phony "deals" and FORCE Washington, D.C.'s political establishment to change its ways.



And if you can, please make a generous contribution to my campaign to Restore America Now so we can spread my message of fiscal sanity and responsibility to millions of more Americans.

Time is running out, so please act NOW!

For Liberty,



Ron Paul


P.S. Mitch McConnell wants to just hand off the responsibility of increasing our national debt limit to President Obama - allowing the debt ceiling to be raised automatically three times just in this Congress.

This is an outrage.

That's why it's vital you sign the petition urging your representative and senators to reject phony compromises and join me in taking the "Cut, Cap, and Balance" pledge right away.



And I hope you can follow this action with a contribution to help me run a top-notch campaign in key states to rein in an out-of-control government and Restore America Now.

And you think Ron Paul is looney???

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Wed 07/13/11 04:47 PM



We will not have a conservative in office in 2013.

They are showing their a$$ so much now in congress no one wants them in there anymore.


You and I voted in the past election, right? I'm assuming you did, you are a civic minded woman. But did your great-grandchildren vote? Mine didn't. But our Government is spending their money, which hasn't even been earned yet. That's taxation without representation. It's criminal. I can't tell you how strongly I support the Republicans in refusing tax increases. Their surest way to not be elected in 2012 would be to agree to raise taxes.


If they don't raise taxes on someone besides the elderly's social security I will be one pissed individual and will be letting them know as I already am.


Who cares, you are voting for a leftist anyways.

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Wed 07/13/11 05:00 PM







I really do not understand why you would call him loony. He is the most rational candidate running.

The press release actually got his platform correct for once, and it is anything but crazy.

You cannot fix something that is huge, complex, and out of whack by making it larger, and that is what the other candidates do not understand.


Not!noway
Really, is that the only thing you have to say? That you disagree, but you are not going to detail why?

It really does not color your opinion in a good light that you cannot articulate why.


You did not articulate any pros to him so you are in the same light as meslaphead Welcome to the not good light

He is a racist lunatic! That is as good of a reason as any. I looked him up and researched him.

He is racist and he is a lunatic by definition. Just look up the definition, it fits him well.

The only thing people try to pass off that makes him "good" is he is an MD who delivered babies and all races of babies is suppose to clear up his racism charge...lol slaphead
There are no good sorry a$$holes who are doctors and deliver thousands of babies that doesn't stop them from being sorry no good a$$holes.

you are just guessing, you don't know if he is a racist or not... just more liberal propaganda... you don't like him because he is anti gay...


Anti gay is another reason to not like him. I don't guess about racism, it is usually obviously there.

Ron Paul '90s newsletters rant against blacks, gays
January 10, 2008|From Brian Todd CNN

A series of newsletters in the name of GOP presidential hopeful Ron Paul contain several racist remarks -- including one that says order was restored to Los Angeles after the 1992 riots when blacks went "to pick up their welfare checks."

CNN recently obtained the newsletters -- written in the 1990s and one from the late 1980s -- after a report was published about their existence in The New Republic.

None of the newsletters CNN found says who wrote them, but each was published under Paul's name between his stints as a U.S. congressman from Texas.
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Paul told CNN's "The Situation Room" Thursday that he didn't write any of the offensive articles and has "no idea" who did. Watch Paul's full interview with CNN

"When you bring this question up, you're really saying, 'You're a racist' or 'Are you a racist?' And the answer is, 'No, I'm not a racist,'" he said.

Paul said he had never even read the articles with the racist comments. See the newsletter excerpts for yourself

"I do repudiate everything that is written along those lines," he said, adding he wanted to "make sure everybody knew where I stood on this position because it's obviously wrong."

But that's not good enough, says one political veteran.

"These stories may be very old in Ron Paul's life, but they're very new to the American public and they deserve to be totally ventilated," said David Gergen, a CNN senior political analyst. "I must say I don't think there's an excuse in politics to have something go out under your name and say, 'Oh by the way, I didn't write that.'"

Paul, who is not considered a front-runner, has become an Internet phenomenon in the current race, raising tens of millions of dollars from a devoted online base, many of them young people drawn to his libertarian straight talk. See where the money is coming from

The controversial newsletters include rants against the Israeli lobby, gays, AIDS victims and Martin Luther King Jr. -- described as a "pro-Communist philanderer." One newsletter, from June 1992, right after the LA riots, says "order was only restored in L.A. when it came time for the blacks to pick up their welfare checks."

Another says, "The criminals who terrorize our cities -- in riots and on every non-riot day -- are not exclusively young black males, but they largely are. As children, they are trained to hate whites, to believe that white oppression is responsible for all black ills, to 'fight the power,' to steal and loot as much money from the white enemy as possible."

http://articles.cnn.com/2008-01-10/politics/paul.newsletters_1_newsletters-blacks-whites?_s=PM:POLITICS



Matt Corley , ThinkProgress at 6:48 AM on January 9, 2008.
comments_imageCOMMENTS:
Ron Paul's Old Newsletters Filled With Deeply Racist, Anti-Semitic and Homophobic Rants
Beginning in 1978, Rep. Ron Paul's (R-TX) name graced newsletters that were released on a seemingly monthly basis: Ron Paul's Freedom Report, Ron Paul Political Report, The Ron Paul Survival Report. "The Freedom Report's online archives only go back to 1999," but The New Republic's Jamie Kirchick recently tracked down physical copies of many of the pre-1999 reports.

According to Kirchick, they're peppered with a "decades worth of obsession with conspiracies, sympathy for the right-wing militia movement, and deeply held bigotry against blacks, Jews, and gays." Here are a few examples:

On David Duke: "Our priority should be to take the anti-government, anti-tax, anti-crime, anti-welfare loafers, anti-race privilege, anti-foreign meddling message of Duke, and enclose it in a more consistent package of freedom."

On Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.: "[A] comsymp, if not an actual party member, and the man who replaced the evil of forced segregation with the evil of forced integration."

On African-Americans: "I've urged everyone in my family to know how to use a gun in self defense. For the animals are coming."

On Gays: "Homosexuals, not to speak of the rest of society, were far better off when social pressure forced them to hide their activities."

In his article, Kirchick writes that "with few bylines, it is difficult to know whether any particular article was written by Paul himself" and that "the vast majority of the editions" that he "saw contain no bylines at all." Paul emphasized this point in his response to the article:

The quotations in The New Republic article are not mine and do not represent what I believe or have ever believed. I have never uttered such words and denounce such small-minded thoughts. [...]

Several writers contributed to the product. For over a decade, I have publically taken moral responsibility for not paying closer attention to what went out under my name.

But as Kirchick -- who has been criticizing Paul for months -- notes, "t is difficult to imagine how Paul could allow material consistently saturated in racism, homophobia, anti-Semitism, and conspiracy-mongering to be printed under his name for so long if he did not share these views."

Some of Paul's supporters in the blogosphere give him more of the benefit of the doubt, but still admit that the "truly odious material" released under his name is "really stunning." Andrew Sullivan writes that "it's up to Ron Paul now to clearly explain and disown these ugly, vile, despicable tracts from the past." PDFs of some of the old newsletters can be found here.

UPDATE: A 1992 Ron Paul Political Report said: "I think we can safely assume that 95% of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal."

UPDATE II via Sara Robinson @ Group News Blog: Ron Paul Supporters Passing the Buck (as Usual)

With The New Republic's release of some of Ron Paul's greatest newsletter hits, we're hearing a chorus of screeching from the Ronbots -- here, there, and everywhere -- about how he didn't know what was going on, and he didn't really mean it, and besides, he was just so busy....

Paul himself made a statement earlier today repeating pretty much the same tropes:

This story is old news and has been rehashed for over a decade. It's once again being resurrected for obvious political reasons on the day of the New Hampshire primary.

"When I was out of Congress and practicing medicine full-time, a newsletter was published under my name that I did not edit. Several writers contributed to the product. For over a decade, I have publicly taken moral responsibility for not paying closer attention to what went out under my name.

I'm sorry, but no. This simply doesn't wash. I don't doubt for a moment that Paul doesn't sincerely regret the contents of over 15 years of assorted newsletters that went out under his name (he published several different ones) -- and presumably, under his ownership and for his own profit as well.

But even the most abject apology doesn't address the larger question, which is: How do people expect a man who can't exercise basic oversight for a lousy monthly newsletter to take full responsibility for the entirety of the government of the most powerful nation on earth?

Since libertarians are supposed to be all about running the government by the standards of private business, let me clue you in on how this kind of lackadaisical failure-to-pay-attention goes down in the private sector.

If somebody goes into court to get out of a contract because "My lawyer wrote it for me, and I didn't really read it, even though I did sign my name to it," the judge will rightly laugh them right out of the courtroom -- and probably award the plaintiff extra damages just for the stupidity factor.

A corporate manager who claims, "Oh, some underling of mine let that defective product out onto the market -- I wasn't really watching, so I had nothing to do with it" is still going to be out of a job so fast he'll have asphalt marks on the butt of his Brooks Brothers suit.

And if I, as a former writer of national award-winning corporate newsletters, overheard the CEO of one of my Fortune 500 client companies trying to pin something in one of those newsletters on little underpaid me, I (and everyone else) would laugh him off the dais. The fact is: my clients bought and paid for those words. They were "work for hire" -- which means the company's executives read and approved every word; and they owned those words outright, legally, practically, and morally, starting the moment my check cleared.

Paul may not have written those words, or even seen them. But he bought and paid for them -- and no doubt, he was happy to bank the handsome profit they made him. (If he's really sorry, he might demonstrate the fact by donating every cent of those profits to the NAACP.) And thus he owns them as surely as if had written them with his own hand. The only people who could accept this weak-assed excuse-making are the ones who are willing to abandon their better sense just as fast as Paul abandoned accountability for the things he published in papers he owned.

We've already had seven long years under a Texas phony who doesn't believe in any kind of accountability or oversight, and refuses to accept responsibility for his own mistakes. The very last thing this country needs is another big dose of the same Houston swampfog. If Ron Paul didn't know what was happening at his newsletters, it's damning proof that he's an incompetent manager. If he did, it's even more damning proof that he's a racist (and a liar to boot).

Either one disqualifies him for any kind of elective office (except as a representative of racists, which it's now more obvious that he is). And all that Paulbot howling aside, it's time for the rest of us to recognize that, and move on.

(And, speaking as one of the two bloggers who first warned you about this side of Paul way back seven months ago -- and have the flak wounds, including quite a few from people on our own side, to show for it -- here's the heads-up: Next time we tell you someone's a closet racist, spare us all the angst and friendly fire, and consider that we just might know what we're talking about, OK?)

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/73205


That is enough for now.

I am barely ever wrong about racism.





He asked for it and you gave him dessert as well..., Cheers to you drinker :wink:



nice try... someones blog is not news to me... but i would like some more dessert tho....

Dragoness's photo
Wed 07/13/11 05:11 PM

Dear Concerned American,

President Obama must be grinning from ear to ear.

Not only has the news reported yesterday that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is scheming to raise the debt ceiling with no real spending cuts, but if this plan goes through, Senator McConnell will have handed yet more power over to the Executive Branch - just because the Senate GOP Leadership doesn't want to have to "deal with it" again!

In addition to surrendering more of Congress' power to President Obama, there is no timetable for the cuts in the bill - so they're rendered effectively meaningless.

And the ceiling will be raised "automatically" THREE TIMES during this Congress alone!

If this plan goes through, Senator McConnell will have betrayed you, me, and every other freedom-loving patriot in America.

That's why it's vital you sign the petition urging your representative and senators to oppose Mitch McConnell's raw deal - and any other phony compromise on the debt ceiling - IMMEDIATELY.



Worried about what could happen to them should they actually KEEP THEIR PROMISE to the American people to cut spending, McConnell and the Senate GOP Leadership are just deciding to hand off the responsibility of hiking our nation's debt to President Obama.

The truth is, when I first read the news, I could hardly believe it.

Instead of even bothering to try to cut spending, Mitch McConnell just wants to give President Obama a free pass to keep our deficit skyrocketing.

This is the LAST thing we need.

Our national debt is $14.3 TRILLION. The "official" unemployment rate is over 9%!

Our country's deficit is increasing at a rate of nearly $4 BILLION per day.

How bad do things have to be before our politicians start showing they are SERIOUS about solving our problems?

But instead, it appears Mitch McConnell would just rather keep up the big spending, business as usual status quo regardless of the cost to the American people.

I can hardly imagine the political fallout if such a deal goes through.

Republicans were put back in power during the last election to STOP the runaway spending in Washington, D.C. and stand up to President Obama - not cut "deals" or run away from fights with their tails between their legs.

Should they cave on their Tea Party mandate now, I believe the GOP will pay a severe price at the ballot box in 2012.

I also think that President Obama believes the same.

You see, he knows the American people are outraged and demanding true change.

But he's also desperate to keep the government's out-of-control spending machine rolling along, so he's eager to create yet another meaningless deal that provides him with some campaign trail rhetoric about supposed "change."

Now is the time to press our advantage and reform Washington.

It's time to show some backbone.



After all, if the Republican Leadership won't join me in FIGHTING the Big Spending, Big Government status quo in Washington, D.C. NOW, when will they ever?

To win this fight we must get hundreds of Members of Congress to keep the pressure up on Speaker Boehner, Mitch McConnell, and the rest of the Republican Leadership.

Any "deal" to raise the debt limit that doesn't include "Cut, Cap, and Balance" needs to be declared dead on arrival.

Quite simply, I am running for President to fundamentally change the way government operates, not just tinker around the edges.

I was the first Presidential candidate to sign on to the "Cut, Cap, and Balance" pledge.

The "Cut, Cap, and Balance" pledge states that members of Congress will not vote to give even a dollar more to raise the debt ceiling without certain conditions being met.

These conditions include one-year cuts in spending totaling at least $500 BILLION, a cap on federal spending, AND passage of the Mike Lee/Rand Paul Balanced Budget Amendment.

You and I cannot allow our elected officials to continue to throw our country's future down the drain with backroom deals and reckless, unchecked spending.

It's vital we FORCE Washington, D.C. to change course right NOW!

But it's going to take a massive outpouring of grassroots opposition from folks like you to make that happen.

Every representative and senator needs to hear from millions of Americans that any business as usual compromise is unacceptable.

So please help me defeat any phony "deals" and FORCE Washington, D.C.'s political establishment to change its ways.



And if you can, please make a generous contribution to my campaign to Restore America Now so we can spread my message of fiscal sanity and responsibility to millions of more Americans.

Time is running out, so please act NOW!

For Liberty,



Ron Paul


P.S. Mitch McConnell wants to just hand off the responsibility of increasing our national debt limit to President Obama - allowing the debt ceiling to be raised automatically three times just in this Congress.

This is an outrage.

That's why it's vital you sign the petition urging your representative and senators to reject phony compromises and join me in taking the "Cut, Cap, and Balance" pledge right away.



And I hope you can follow this action with a contribution to help me run a top-notch campaign in key states to rein in an out-of-control government and Restore America Now.

And you think Ron Paul is looney???


LOL Racist and a lunatic. But let him run, he will assist the opposite party in winning that is for sure.

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Wed 07/13/11 05:14 PM
Obama is pretty much guaranteed 2012 since there is no legitimate competition for him.

Looney Ron just guarantees it even more,

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Thu 07/14/11 02:44 AM



If we could get rid of Jindal, McConnel, McCain, Grahm, Pawlenty, Romney and I'm sure a few other republicans along with 90% of democrats the country would be much better off!


mit romney holds a government position???

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Thu 07/14/11 08:47 AM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Thu 07/14/11 09:21 AM




I really do not understand why you would call him loony. He is the most rational candidate running.

The press release actually got his platform correct for once, and it is anything but crazy.

You cannot fix something that is huge, complex, and out of whack by making it larger, and that is what the other candidates do not understand.


Not!noway
Really, is that the only thing you have to say? That you disagree, but you are not going to detail why?

It really does not color your opinion in a good light that you cannot articulate why.


You did not articulate any pros to him so you are in the same light as meslaphead Welcome to the not good light

He is a racist lunatic! That is as good of a reason as any. I looked him up and researched him.

He is racist and he is a lunatic by definition. Just look up the definition, it fits him well.

The only thing people try to pass off that makes him "good" is he is an MD who delivered babies and all races of babies is suppose to clear up his racism charge...lol slaphead
There are no good sorry a$$holes who are doctors and deliver thousands of babies that doesn't stop them from being sorry no good a$$holes.
For there to be a racism charge one would have to present evidence of such . . . it is your claim, so back it up.

you don't like him because he is anti gay...

He is NOT anti gay, he is pro liberty, which actually translates into equal rights for all, including gay people.

So much ignorance.

So all you have dragoness is that someone who was not him wrote some objectionable things on his newsletter . . . . which he came out against VEHEMENTLY. He was clearly against what was written.

Yea way to not make your case against RON PAUL.

So you have nothing but more media BS, welcome to the sad, shallow world of political ankle biting.

No one cares about the real issues, they want there pet politicians in office no matter what is really at stake, they want there government money to prop up there life style, they want want want, but could care less about freedom and liberty, they pretend to care about the constitution and the freedom our country was founded on.

You have absolutely nothing on Ron Paul. You have not made a single realistic attempt to show why you think he is loony, or why you think he is racist.

Your attempt is no better than the attempts by the pathetic people on the right who attempt to link Obama with the black panthers, the Acorn Scandal ect ect ect. Just becuase someone else writes something objectionable it does not follow that this represents Paul . . . nor that what occurred in Acorn represents Obama, nor that the radical ideology of the black panthers represent Obama.

We can share the idea of equal rights, and civil rights with the black panthers and not share the extremist positions they hold.

In the same vein Ron Paul can share the concepts of liberty and freedom with the people who wrote those articles, and NOT share the racists ideology that they presented.

This is called fairly dealing with the person in question, it is dishonest to do otherwise.

You are being dishonest and should be ignored, you perspective is tainted by this make believe association you are trying to portray.

Your best bet is to acknowledge this and redeem yourself from the petty infighting that has lowered the discourse to this shallow place politics has sunk.

Honestly everyone involved in politics, both the politicians and the people like ourselves should ridicule anyone who tries these kinds of tactics.

We should make these kinds of dishonest attacks of association so clearly unacceptable that a stigma against such dishonesty permeates all of politics, only then shall we again have a government we can be proud of . . .

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Thu 07/14/11 10:28 AM
I was watching a show last night and Obama's one number is at 58 when it's supposed to be 100. They said no sitting President with any number under 100 has EVER been re-elected when they were under 100. Carters was around 70. I wish i could remember what it is but they said this is REally bad for Obama.

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Thu 07/14/11 10:30 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws

laugh

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Thu 07/14/11 10:38 AM

I was watching a show last night and Obama's one number is at 58 when it's supposed to be 100. They said no sitting President with any number under 100 has EVER been re-elected when they were under 100. Carters was around 70. I wish i could remember what it is but they said this is REally bad for Obama.


Instead of speculating on whether he's going to be re-elected or not, why don't we look at the candidates themselves? This back and forth argument about whether he COULD get re-elected or COULDN'T because of this arbitrary number system or that is a distraction from not only the issues, but the topic of this thread.

Fact: Until November 6th of next year, we're not going to know anything for certain, so its just wasted energy.

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Thu 07/14/11 11:33 AM
I don't care who the candidate is, I wont vote for Obama under ANY circumstances, and I know a TON of people who feel the same, people who voted for him in 2008.

Unless a major act of God happens or World War III, we will have a new President in 2013.

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Thu 07/14/11 11:34 AM
And this crap with throwing a temper tantrum and storming out of negotiations making threats because he's not getting his way isn't helping him either.

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Thu 07/14/11 12:58 PM
Noted ... again ...

Can we move on?

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Thu 07/14/11 01:22 PM

I don't care who the candidate is, I wont vote for Obama under ANY circumstances, and I know a TON of people who feel the same, people who voted for him in 2008.

Unless a major act of God happens or World War III, we will have a new President in 2013.
This is true for me. I voted for him hoping at least his promise of transparency would be kept so we could hold the government accountable.

The truth is that government transparency has never been worse. The more time I have taken looking at the various platforms the more I learn toward small government.

It is just too easy for politicians to funnel tax dollars into their own pockets, or the pockets of there own interest groups to continue giving them so much of working Americans money.

Smaller government mean less waste, it means more personal responsibility.

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Thu 07/14/11 01:56 PM
I can follow that line of reasoning, but as to the origin of this thread ... offtopic I'm still waiting on ANY evidence that Ron Paul is "looney" and "racist". yawn