So why are older guys who look for younger women called creeps? I thought creepy guys were the ones into heat shrink tubing and blow driers! I just want a real relationship that works. I am not out to fulfill some sick fetish! So am I supposed to feel guilty for something? So many profiles of women who say they are not out to meet creeps over 25, 27 or whatever.

Well, I am not about to feel any guilt. But still, feedback on this issue would be funny to see what others think and feel about this issue! I mean being called a Badger or something would apply. Even so and with the upsetting of the Wolf therians Wolf also applies! A Sugar Daddy uses candy (DRUGS) to keep his girls. So that would not apply here!

So what do we call a older guy with a younger woman? Lucky? That is the name of my neighbor's dog!

Because, generally speaking...They usually are creeps I would imagine.

Long time no see!

How about a Lion, they often have young lionesses around..

I realy dont see what the big deal is, if both are happy I just dont see the creepyness. Obviously a young women is attractive so if she is attracted to an older man, then really what makes it such a problem to people.

I could see that. Besides, I am a Leo! Hear me Rawr!

lion is good maybe panther or jaguar

noooo, the women get the cat names...it's in the rule book

they need to be a different animal, like the monkeys or something

Gorilla?

I'd say, they be called 'grand lovers'

Desperate :P

Huh? An older guy having a younger woman is far from being a desperate one... in fact, it seems his pick comes from better options.

Or vast options, I'd say...

Options? :)

I'm still gonna say desperate.

There's only one thing he's after with a younger girl. He's no better then Father Christmas.

I have more fun with younger women. I am supposed to slow down for others? PLEASE! At 18 they are adults. So where is all this consent and adult choice here?

I never ever went geriatric but some guys would. Who would poke their grand mother? Now that to me is sick (flip side, for example, Hugh Heffner cough cough. And why does he still land fluffy young cotton tails?). There are some things I can never bring myself to. One of them is homosexuality. I would go bestial LONG before I poke at another guys back door. (I can love another man like a brother but as a lover? NO WAY!) Also poking granny? NO WAY! I would kill her! That and the factor is WAY off of the index!

We all have limits somewhere.

But hey, I look like I am in my 30s. I don't feel like anything other than Andy. And I am sick of the second hand life. I am tired of coming up behind the other guy. Again, those are MY personal issues. I don't think desperate has anything to do with it. Desperate is screwing a woman I would have nothing to do with otherwise! Desperate is abandoning my standards.

I am not above a good time here and there but again I do have certain standards I am not letting up on. Sex is sex. Good sex on the other hand is hard to find! A good woman is harder to find. And when you get both then you have achieved heaven and something few others ever get to experience even for one day. Real happiness.

I think where I am going in all of this is people spend too much time ridiculing others and set double standards. Calling an older guy with a younger woman or the younger woman with an older guy desperate is unfair. Most people sell out for money anyways and if that makes them happy, whatevs.

I would be happy to have an honest working relationship with someone in the same mindset I am in as long as she is her own unique person! And if she was 18, 28, or 38 it doesn't matter to me. Age is a number! Nothing more.

Hell, I never dated in High School for two reasons, My father was a supreme embarrassment to me and stuck his nose where it didn't belong in my life, and also I was told I looked too young even up till the time I was 28 years old. Personally I am SO sick and tired of all the labeling going on but in this big bad old world if I do have to wear a label I want one I can live with. Cougar is not such a bad name. Hell, I got my cougar merit badge! I have a couple of stripes under it too! But if I am to be called something for my living the flip side of the coin Lion doesn't hurt! Neither does Wolf. I am not however a creep pervert! And any woman of any age accusing me of that deserves to be pimp slapped!

Inside my many pseudo personalities, well facets of my personality, one of them is Rick James beyatch! And he likes to slap deserving people!

Now if I came up to a woman sight unseen and told her how I would like to oil her up and lick her all over, THAT IS CREEPY! If I was like that I would deserve to be called creepy and a creep. If I walked up to a woman and told her I wanted to use her for my personal toilet? That is Creepy perverted and SICKO! That also deserves a session explaining to the cops what that was all about. If I walked up to a woman and told her I was going to kill, rape and eat her in that order, that is super over the top UBERSCUM that if someone is not on the phone to the police they had better be getting a gun to protect themselves FAST and calling the police in the mean time!

All I want to do is go out, see where things go and if the pilot light fires up and she is the one turning up the thermostat well, congratulate me cause nobody likes a haterator! If nothing happens it was not meant to be!

So come on. Desperate? That is so sad! On so many levels.

MrBiscut, I know you are more creative than that! I mean you are the biscuit, right? Not the Muffin man? Nobody has seen him lately!

I think immature is a better term.

In some cases I might agree but all cases? I DARE you to call Hugh Heffner immature. That man has had more of a life than I have. He makes more money than all of us combined. And he got to tap a$$ most of us heterosexual men WISHED TO GOD we could just get a chance to touch anywhere on them!

Can't go with that name either.

In my mind, the absolute height of masculinity is being a good husband and father. Hugh Hefner never left his late teens emotionally.

AH! But how many unconventional relationships are serious? Hard to tell but some women do prefer being with older men and I am not talking Grandpa and a Cheerleader here.

Happiness is far to hard to find. If you find it and age becomes an issue then what? Live miserably alone?

That sounds like hell to me!

I don't have a problem with a reasonable age difference. A 51 year old man marrying a 16 year old girl is a bit much. But a 51 year old man marrying a 30 year old woman, I say "LUCKY!" and move on.

Hmmm I think I like a little older as i tend to need someone a little stable and sensible, and normally younger men are just not sensible or stable until they get old.. Its just that you all take so long to grow up..And since i dont want to grow up, I want someone who has


Oh bummer I forgot, I am already old and grown up