Topic: Love
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Thu 05/26/11 09:09 PM
@Navygirl - I understand.

That wall around your heart has flowers growing all around it.

You are not the need. You are the giver.

Be well always my friend :)

misswright's photo
Thu 05/26/11 09:23 PM
In love? ...just once. :heart:

navygirl's photo
Fri 05/27/11 06:01 AM

@Navygirl - I understand.

That wall around your heart has flowers growing all around it.

You are not the need. You are the giver.

Be well always my friend :)


Thanks for understanding and I hope you do find what you are looking for.

josie68's photo
Fri 05/27/11 06:12 AM

love does not freakin exist people suck and only love themselves


Yep there are people who love themselves, and liars and hypocrites, but it's not everyone, and yep you will probably find that most peole will hurt you in some way.

But if you let those peole make you believe that love doesnt exist then you shut yourself off from ever finding it or trusting anyone.

We are all hurt and used, and normally the more trusting you are the more you will be hurt. But honestly what do you gain by being hard, you think it will stop the hurt, but then you are hurting constantly.

Bitterness, and anger only hurt you, and it is very hard to love a bitter angry person.


Anyway back to the question, I have only been in love once in my life.

I have loved a lot of people, and I will continue to love lots of people but being in love is different. I am not even going to try and work out why, it just is, the person is just an extension of you.



josie68's photo
Fri 05/27/11 06:27 AM





well at the risk of pissing peopleoids off....cuz I really don't care

if your down on love, your down on yourself

gotta love ourselves first




On this I agree that you have to love yourself first. I am not down on love with friends and family just with relationships.


No offense Navygirl, I have read many a post about your relationship troubles.

I am sure you know who you are, and in knowing that, you know what you've got.

What you had at the beggining of any relationship. That is what you still have.

You have to pick up the old baseball bat, and get ready to hit some slogs.

This is a new game with new players, but you still have your good old heart. That is what matters. Believing you can win and giving a good game to all players.

That is what is real flowerforyou ^_^


Thanks, but for me the fairytale is over. After you get knocked down time and time again; you come to a point where you just don't want to get up. I hit that point many years ago but I was just too stupid to realize this. Don't get me wrong I am happy for those that find true love and would not wish anything but pure joy for them. I am tired and no longer can put in an effort towards a relationship. I truly have nothing to offer a potential partner and I don't want to ruin anyone's life.


I have to tell you, I really find your posts enlightening and refreshing, simply because of the way you stay true to yourself and refuse to kowtow to the standard boilerplate relationship mythology.

And a lot of times, you're expressing things I've felt but have never really verbalized.

I guess the only thing I would say is different for me, from what you wrote above, is this -- I have ALL KINDS of things to offer a potential partner -- but nobody wants it, because it doesn't include my willful acceptance of a frontal lobotomy with accompanying traditional blah lifestyle.

And I'm OK with that, because I'm worth more, as myself, than 100 debrained me's would be....




Lex you always make me laugh and I think you are wonderful..I dont understand half of what you say but its always funny.

and navygirl, I think you are fantastic, I love your posts.

And I have been where you are, where I was fed up with even trying . gosh it seemed like I ended up with more and more drongo's I think they where crawling out from under the beds. so I am not saying anything, Just enjoy your life and everything you do.

And never ever settle for anything less than what you are looking for.flowerforyou

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Fri 05/27/11 09:51 AM






well at the risk of pissing peopleoids off....cuz I really don't care

if your down on love, your down on yourself

gotta love ourselves first




On this I agree that you have to love yourself first. I am not down on love with friends and family just with relationships.


No offense Navygirl, I have read many a post about your relationship troubles.

I am sure you know who you are, and in knowing that, you know what you've got.

What you had at the beggining of any relationship. That is what you still have.

You have to pick up the old baseball bat, and get ready to hit some slogs.

This is a new game with new players, but you still have your good old heart. That is what matters. Believing you can win and giving a good game to all players.

That is what is real flowerforyou ^_^


Thanks, but for me the fairytale is over. After you get knocked down time and time again; you come to a point where you just don't want to get up. I hit that point many years ago but I was just too stupid to realize this. Don't get me wrong I am happy for those that find true love and would not wish anything but pure joy for them. I am tired and no longer can put in an effort towards a relationship. I truly have nothing to offer a potential partner and I don't want to ruin anyone's life.


I have to tell you, I really find your posts enlightening and refreshing, simply because of the way you stay true to yourself and refuse to kowtow to the standard boilerplate relationship mythology.

And a lot of times, you're expressing things I've felt but have never really verbalized.

I guess the only thing I would say is different for me, from what you wrote above, is this -- I have ALL KINDS of things to offer a potential partner -- but nobody wants it, because it doesn't include my willful acceptance of a frontal lobotomy with accompanying traditional blah lifestyle.

And I'm OK with that, because I'm worth more, as myself, than 100 debrained me's would be....




Lex you always make me laugh and I think you are wonderful..I dont understand half of what you say but its always funny.

and navygirl, I think you are fantastic, I love your posts.

And I have been where you are, where I was fed up with even trying . gosh it seemed like I ended up with more and more drongo's I think they where crawling out from under the beds. so I am not saying anything, Just enjoy your life and everything you do.

And never ever settle for anything less than what you are looking for.flowerforyou


For me, the hardest part has been coming to grips with the realization that what I want doesn't actually exist -- while I continue to run across people who are all too willing to PRETEND they're what I want. This makes absolutely no sense to me. It's actually quite irksome.

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Fri 05/27/11 10:02 AM


@Navygirl - I understand.

That wall around your heart has flowers growing all around it.

You are not the need. You are the giver.

Be well always my friend :)


Thanks for understanding and I hope you do find what you are looking for.


Thankyou! :D

fireflysgirl's photo
Fri 05/27/11 10:15 AM

how many times have I been in love? Enough times to know it exists in many ways shapes and forms.



^^^this, I have so much love for my friends and family or my animals. Those bonds are deep and much cherished. When it comes to romance, IDK? Thought I was in love many times, guess I was a few, but eventually had to realize that the "love" I was experiencing had a heavy price and that in continuing those relationships I was not loving myself. For now I will focus on loving me, family & friends, and critters!

Someday I'll be ready to give it another go with some guy that thinks I am amazing and the bad experiences I have been through are gonna help me better judge that man's character so that I am more wise in my choices of who to give all my love to!

lionsbrew's photo
Fri 05/27/11 11:38 AM
Yep pretty much I love my family and my dog. My friends are the family I got to choose so they are right there with family. There are things I love doing and wouldn't want to live without as well. Ive been in love really deeply with a woman one time and not my ex wife either.laugh laugh

I have dated plenty enough to know what I don't want.laugh I'm not worried about finding ms.right either. I'm sure If I keep living my life as I do we'll cross paths at some point in my life and it will be an interesting experience. Probably end up getting yelled at for being so effing late.grumble laugh laugh

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Fri 05/27/11 11:44 AM




:laughing: :angel:

PoemWriter99's photo
Fri 05/27/11 02:19 PM
so how do you love yourself when it seems like everyone else hates you?

lionsbrew's photo
Fri 05/27/11 02:41 PM

so how do you love yourself when it seems like everyone else hates you?


Well alot of people claim they dont pay attention to what others think. But heres my take on this question. One way of loving yourself is to think about your faults and try to improve yourself. The best way for someone to love themselves is to care enough to improve themselves and become a better you so to speak. But that is my opinion.

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Fri 05/27/11 02:57 PM

so how do you love yourself when it seems like everyone else hates you?


You accept the idea that other people are in no position to assign any value or worth (or lack thereof) to you. You are you, they are they, and they have not lived your life; ergo, they are not capable of formulating definitive judgments on who or what you are. They are operating with insufficient data, so to speak -- assessments made on the basis of insufficient data tend to be incomplete, and, in many cases, wildly inaccurate.






navygirl's photo
Fri 05/27/11 03:41 PM

so how do you love yourself when it seems like everyone else hates you?


Why would you care what others think? Your opinion of yourself is the only one that counts; everyone else can go to hell as far as I am concerned. JMO

winterblue56's photo
Fri 05/27/11 05:19 PM


so how do you love yourself when it seems like everyone else hates you?


You accept the idea that other people are in no position to assign any value or worth (or lack thereof) to you. You are you, they are they, and they have not lived your life; ergo, they are not capable of formulating definitive judgments on who or what you are. They are operating with insufficient data, so to speak -- assessments made on the basis of insufficient data tend to be incomplete, and, in many cases, wildly inaccurate.


:thumbsup:

josie68's photo
Fri 05/27/11 05:22 PM
Edited by josie68 on Fri 05/27/11 05:32 PM
flowerforyou







well at the risk of pissing peopleoids off....cuz I really don't care

if your down on love, your down on yourself

gotta love ourselves first




On this I agree that you have to love yourself first. I am not down on love with friends and family just with relationships.


No offense Navygirl, I have read many a post about your relationship troubles.

I am sure you know who you are, and in knowing that, you know what you've got.

What you had at the beggining of any relationship. That is what you still have.

You have to pick up the old baseball bat, and get ready to hit some slogs.

This is a new game with new players, but you still have your good old heart. That is what matters. Believing you can win and giving a good game to all players.

That is what is real flowerforyou ^_^


Thanks, but for me the fairytale is over. After you get knocked down time and time again; you come to a point where you just don't want to get up. I hit that point many years ago but I was just too stupid to realize this. Don't get me wrong I am happy for those that find true love and would not wish anything but pure joy for them. I am tired and no longer can put in an effort towards a relationship. I truly have nothing to offer a potential partner and I don't want to ruin anyone's life.


I have to tell you, I really find your posts enlightening and refreshing, simply because of the way you stay true to yourself and refuse to kowtow to the standard boilerplate relationship mythology.

And a lot of times, you're expressing things I've felt but have never really verbalized.

I guess the only thing I would say is different for me, from what you wrote above, is this -- I have ALL KINDS of things to offer a potential partner -- but nobody wants it, because it doesn't include my willful acceptance of a frontal lobotomy with accompanying traditional blah lifestyle.

And I'm OK with that, because I'm worth more, as myself, than 100 debrained me's would be....




Lex you always make me laugh and I think you are wonderful..I dont understand half of what you say but its always funny.

and navygirl, I think you are fantastic, I love your posts.

And I have been where you are, where I was fed up with even trying . gosh it seemed like I ended up with more and more drongo's I think they where crawling out from under the beds. so I am not saying anything, Just enjoy your life and everything you do.

And never ever settle for anything less than what you are looking for.flowerforyou


For me, the hardest part has been coming to grips with the realization that what I want doesn't actually exist -- while I continue to run across people who are all too willing to PRETEND they're what I want. This makes absolutely no sense to me. It's actually quite irksome.



rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

Ok , yep that sucks, Ihat people end up different.

Ok how about someone who just makes you happy, and doesnt annoy you every time they are around. tongue2
someone who you dont want to shove their heads in the toilet bowl to shutthem up.

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Fri 05/27/11 05:23 PM



so how do you love yourself when it seems like everyone else hates you?


You accept the idea that other people are in no position to assign any value or worth (or lack thereof) to you. You are you, they are they, and they have not lived your life; ergo, they are not capable of formulating definitive judgments on who or what you are. They are operating with insufficient data, so to speak -- assessments made on the basis of insufficient data tend to be incomplete, and, in many cases, wildly inaccurate.


:thumbsup:


Indeed. A true paragraph of awesome! ^_^

motowndowntown's photo
Fri 05/27/11 05:39 PM
How could a thread on the subject of love get so many bitter responses?

I have loved hundreds of times and still love every one of them.

Dragoness's photo
Fri 05/27/11 05:46 PM

How Many Times Have You Been In Love???:smile: :wink: happy


Three times. They did not work out.


luv2roknroll's photo
Fri 05/27/11 05:46 PM
Well....

lets see....

counting today...(I just fell in love with another Mingle hunk, that lives too far away from me)frustrated

About 67,943 times!

Oh wait...67,944 times,

I almost forgot about today!tongue2