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Topic: The Big Lie
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Tue 04/12/11 06:28 AM
In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
-- George Orwell

Is there any limit to the outrageousness of the GOP lies?

Is there any limit to the capacity of a large number of our fellow citizens to accept these lies?

If it were in the interest of the ruling oligarchs to convince a majority of the public that the earth is flat, could they succeed?

This is, after all, a public almost half of which refuses to accept evolution – the central coordinating concept of modern biology. And approximately half of the GOP primary voters believe that Barack Obama was not born in the United States.

These unsettling thoughts came to my mind when I heard Michael Steele remark that "not in the history of mankind has the government ever created a job." This from a man who held a government job as Lieutenant Governor of Maryland. That remark was echoed by Mitch Daniels, the Governor of Indiana and Sarah Palin and I can testify that I have heard it elsewhere.

Michael Steele's comment is more audacious even than the claim that the earth is flat. (After all, the earth looks flat, doesn’t it?). To say that government never created a single job flies in the face of ordinary, everyday experience. What are police, firefighters, teachers, judges, prosecutors, postal workers, military personnel, etc engaged in if not “government jobs.” What is the construction and maintenance of roads and bridges, the certification of the safety of our food and drugs, air traffic control, if they are not “government jobs.”

The claim that government never creates jobs is so preposterous that it seems pointless even to bother to refute it.

Yet somehow, some GOP politicians freely utter this absurdity without fear of being laughed off the stage of public debate. And apparently some people, failing to give the claim even a moment’s critical reflection, believe it. Otherwise, why would Steele and others say such nonsense in the first place.

And this is only the most egregious of a long string of Republican lies thrown at the public by right-wing politicians and pundits and largely unchallenged by a complaint corporate media. Among them:

** Al Gore claimed to have invented the internet and to have discovered the toxic contamination of Love Canal.

** John Kerry’s allegedly heroic war record was fraudulent.

** Barack Obama was born in Kenya and is a secret Muslim.

** Saddam Hussein possessed weapons of mass destruction and was involved in the attacks of September 11, 2001.

** Global warming is a gigantic hoax, perpetrated by thousands of deceitful scientists.

** Obama has raised taxes.

** “Obamacare” is a “socialist government takeover of health care.”

** Ninety percent of Planned Parenthood funding is for abortion services.

** Elections in the United States are always accurate and fair.

These are not “matters of opinion,” they are flatly and demonstrably false. Clear and decisive refutation of all these claims are available to anyone who cares to examine the evidence. As Daniel Patrick Moynihan famously remarked, while we are entitled to our own opinions, we are not entitled to our own facts.

Then there are the contradictions:

** Teachers, police officers and firefighters are greedy. But billionaire CEOs and hedge-fund managers are not.

** Wall street banksters are entitled to their million-dollar bonuses because theses bonuses are contractual obligations with their firms. But the states are not required to honor their contractual obligations to public workers, obligations such as pensions and health coverage.

** Federal revenues are increased by cutting taxes (i.e., revenues).

** During the Bush administration, “Reagan proved [that] deficits don’t matter.” (Dick Cheney) In the Obama administration, the GOP tells us that the federal deficit is the Number One economic problem today.

** “Not in the history of mankind has the government ever created a job.” (Michael Steele, etc.). “Since President Obama has taken office, the federal government had added 200 thousand new federal jobs.” (John Boehner. Also false, by the way. The correct number is 56,000).

And finally, there is the “dogma” – a priori “first principles” too sacred to be doubted or subjected to rational analysis and confirmation:

** “Government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem.” (Ronald Reagan).

** Market fundamentalism: “A free market [co-ordinates] the activity of millions of people, each seeking his own interest, in such a way as to make everyone better off.” (Milton Friedman)

** Privatization: "Whenever we find an approach to the extension of private property rights [in the natural environment,] we find superior results.” (Robert J. Smith).

** “There is no such thing as society.” (Margaret Thatcher)

** “There is no such entity as ‘the public.’” (Ayn Rand)

These last two dogmas bear significant implications. For if there is no such thing as “society,” it follows that there are no social problems or “social injustice. Poverty is the fault of individuals who are sinful and lazy. And if there is no “public,” then there is no “public interest,” and thus no need for government to promote same.

A large portion of the American public believes these lies, accepts these contradictions, and embraces these dogmas, not because of supporting evidence (there is none) or cogent arguments (there are none), but out of sheer unquestioned repetition in the corporate media.

Students of propaganda methods call this “The Big Lie” – a term that has its origins in the Nazi Regime.

Congressman Steve Cohen (Democrat, Virginia) correctly observed that when the GOP claimed that “Obamacare” was “government takeover of health care,” they were engaging in a “Big Lie.” Yet when he said this on the floor of the House of Representatives, he was so mercilessly hounded by the media and his colleagues, that he felt obliged to apologize.

So now the corporate media has, in effect, ruled the expression, “The Big Lie,” out of bounds of polite political discourse, despite the fact that the term precisely describes the successful method of the right wing propagandists. In short, those who wish to complain against this practice have been effectively disarmed.

So where is the bewildered citizen to go if that citizen is to avoid the big lies and to encounter a fund of verifiable facts and informed opinion? Rule One: stay clear of the corporate media. Even The New York Times, once regarded as “the newspaper of historical record,” can no longer be trusted to deliver “all the news that’s fit to print.” Remember the hullabaloo about Bill Clinton’s “Whitewater” deal? Remember Judith Miller’s breathless disclosure of Saddam Hussein’s nefarious “aluminum tubes”? All promoted by The New York Times. All false.

So where do we find authentic news? Try National Public Radio (while it lasts) and, of course, the internet (until it is privatized and sold to the media conglomerates). Also deserving honorable mention is the evening contingent of MSNBC – O’Donnell, Maddow and Schultz. Even so, along with the entire corporate media, these worthies never question the integrity of our elections and only rarely discuss the size of the military budget, now approximately equal all the other military budgets in the world combined, including those of our allies. It should be noted that NBC, the parent company of MSNBC, is half owned by the world’s largest military contractor, General Electric.

In addition, some of the best sources of news are foreign – and all available on the internet. They include the BBC (England) and the CBC (Canada), The Real News (broadcast from Toronto, Canada), Al Jazeera English, and, amazingly, Russia Today. The Russians, it seems, are returning the favor that we bestowed upon them during the Soviet Era, when the U.S. and Western Europe sent accurate news across “the iron curtain” via The Voice of America and Radio Free Europe. Yes, it has come to that!

But these are all pathetically weak voices accessed by thousands, arrayed against the corporate media that is devoured by millions. And as long as this remains the case, and those millions accept uncritically the lies, myths and dogmas fed to them by the mega-corporations that own our government, there appears to be little hope of a return to economic justice and democratic government that we once enjoyed in the United States of America.

But all is not lost. As the folk tale of the boy who cried “Wolf!” reminds us, liars tend through time to lose their credibility. We should strive to accelerate this process as it applies to the corporate media by exposing the lies and boycotting the sponsors of those who tell the lies.

The experience of the Russians is instructive. My Russian friends tell me that after decades of unabashed lying by Pravda, Izvestia and Gostelradio, fewer and fewer Soviet citizens believed the state media. The facts bear them out, as history discloses that Russians instead sought out foreign sources of news such as The Voice of America and Radio Free Europe. (See my “What if America Loses its Voice”).

Some Russians were so desperate for authentic news and uncensored opinion that they risked arrest and prison by producing and distributing underground manuscripts, Samizdat, hand to hand.

When the Soviet government lost control of the hearts and minds of its citizens, its days were numbered.

In the United States, the corporate media, unlike the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, is sensitive to market forces. As ever more Americans refuse to believe the lies served up by the corporate media, the media will either reform or become politically irrelevant, and more and more attention will be directed to responsible sources of news, both foreign and domestic. The fate of Glenn Beck’s TV show and the diminishing audience of Fox “News” may be harbingers of such reform.

Whatever the outcome, Thomas Jefferson’s warning remains enduringly true: “If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be.”

The restoration of sanity in our public discourse is essential to the restoration of our democracy. Necessary, but not sufficient. In addition, the liars in public offices must be removed from those offices. And that will only happen if official election returns can once again be trusted to reflect the will of the voters, and not the output of secret software written by right wing partisans.

But that is a huge topic that deserves a separate essay – perhaps the next. Stay tuned.

Copyright 2011 by Ernest Partridge

_______
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/ernest-partridge/35479/the-big-lie

mightymoe's photo
Tue 04/12/11 06:30 AM

In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
-- George Orwell

Is there any limit to the outrageousness of the GOP lies?

Is there any limit to the capacity of a large number of our fellow citizens to accept these lies?

If it were in the interest of the ruling oligarchs to convince a majority of the public that the earth is flat, could they succeed?

This is, after all, a public almost half of which refuses to accept evolution – the central coordinating concept of modern biology. And approximately half of the GOP primary voters believe that Barack Obama was not born in the United States.

These unsettling thoughts came to my mind when I heard Michael Steele remark that "not in the history of mankind has the government ever created a job." This from a man who held a government job as Lieutenant Governor of Maryland. That remark was echoed by Mitch Daniels, the Governor of Indiana and Sarah Palin and I can testify that I have heard it elsewhere.

Michael Steele's comment is more audacious even than the claim that the earth is flat. (After all, the earth looks flat, doesn’t it?). To say that government never created a single job flies in the face of ordinary, everyday experience. What are police, firefighters, teachers, judges, prosecutors, postal workers, military personnel, etc engaged in if not “government jobs.” What is the construction and maintenance of roads and bridges, the certification of the safety of our food and drugs, air traffic control, if they are not “government jobs.”

The claim that government never creates jobs is so preposterous that it seems pointless even to bother to refute it.

Yet somehow, some GOP politicians freely utter this absurdity without fear of being laughed off the stage of public debate. And apparently some people, failing to give the claim even a moment’s critical reflection, believe it. Otherwise, why would Steele and others say such nonsense in the first place.

And this is only the most egregious of a long string of Republican lies thrown at the public by right-wing politicians and pundits and largely unchallenged by a complaint corporate media. Among them:

** Al Gore claimed to have invented the internet and to have discovered the toxic contamination of Love Canal.

** John Kerry’s allegedly heroic war record was fraudulent.

** Barack Obama was born in Kenya and is a secret Muslim.

** Saddam Hussein possessed weapons of mass destruction and was involved in the attacks of September 11, 2001.

** Global warming is a gigantic hoax, perpetrated by thousands of deceitful scientists.

** Obama has raised taxes.

** “Obamacare” is a “socialist government takeover of health care.”

** Ninety percent of Planned Parenthood funding is for abortion services.

** Elections in the United States are always accurate and fair.

These are not “matters of opinion,” they are flatly and demonstrably false. Clear and decisive refutation of all these claims are available to anyone who cares to examine the evidence. As Daniel Patrick Moynihan famously remarked, while we are entitled to our own opinions, we are not entitled to our own facts.

Then there are the contradictions:

** Teachers, police officers and firefighters are greedy. But billionaire CEOs and hedge-fund managers are not.

** Wall street banksters are entitled to their million-dollar bonuses because theses bonuses are contractual obligations with their firms. But the states are not required to honor their contractual obligations to public workers, obligations such as pensions and health coverage.

** Federal revenues are increased by cutting taxes (i.e., revenues).

** During the Bush administration, “Reagan proved [that] deficits don’t matter.” (Dick Cheney) In the Obama administration, the GOP tells us that the federal deficit is the Number One economic problem today.

** “Not in the history of mankind has the government ever created a job.” (Michael Steele, etc.). “Since President Obama has taken office, the federal government had added 200 thousand new federal jobs.” (John Boehner. Also false, by the way. The correct number is 56,000).

And finally, there is the “dogma” – a priori “first principles” too sacred to be doubted or subjected to rational analysis and confirmation:

** “Government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem.” (Ronald Reagan).

** Market fundamentalism: “A free market [co-ordinates] the activity of millions of people, each seeking his own interest, in such a way as to make everyone better off.” (Milton Friedman)

** Privatization: "Whenever we find an approach to the extension of private property rights [in the natural environment,] we find superior results.” (Robert J. Smith).

** “There is no such thing as society.” (Margaret Thatcher)

** “There is no such entity as ‘the public.’” (Ayn Rand)

These last two dogmas bear significant implications. For if there is no such thing as “society,” it follows that there are no social problems or “social injustice. Poverty is the fault of individuals who are sinful and lazy. And if there is no “public,” then there is no “public interest,” and thus no need for government to promote same.

A large portion of the American public believes these lies, accepts these contradictions, and embraces these dogmas, not because of supporting evidence (there is none) or cogent arguments (there are none), but out of sheer unquestioned repetition in the corporate media.

Students of propaganda methods call this “The Big Lie” – a term that has its origins in the Nazi Regime.

Congressman Steve Cohen (Democrat, Virginia) correctly observed that when the GOP claimed that “Obamacare” was “government takeover of health care,” they were engaging in a “Big Lie.” Yet when he said this on the floor of the House of Representatives, he was so mercilessly hounded by the media and his colleagues, that he felt obliged to apologize.

So now the corporate media has, in effect, ruled the expression, “The Big Lie,” out of bounds of polite political discourse, despite the fact that the term precisely describes the successful method of the right wing propagandists. In short, those who wish to complain against this practice have been effectively disarmed.

So where is the bewildered citizen to go if that citizen is to avoid the big lies and to encounter a fund of verifiable facts and informed opinion? Rule One: stay clear of the corporate media. Even The New York Times, once regarded as “the newspaper of historical record,” can no longer be trusted to deliver “all the news that’s fit to print.” Remember the hullabaloo about Bill Clinton’s “Whitewater” deal? Remember Judith Miller’s breathless disclosure of Saddam Hussein’s nefarious “aluminum tubes”? All promoted by The New York Times. All false.

So where do we find authentic news? Try National Public Radio (while it lasts) and, of course, the internet (until it is privatized and sold to the media conglomerates). Also deserving honorable mention is the evening contingent of MSNBC – O’Donnell, Maddow and Schultz. Even so, along with the entire corporate media, these worthies never question the integrity of our elections and only rarely discuss the size of the military budget, now approximately equal all the other military budgets in the world combined, including those of our allies. It should be noted that NBC, the parent company of MSNBC, is half owned by the world’s largest military contractor, General Electric.

In addition, some of the best sources of news are foreign – and all available on the internet. They include the BBC (England) and the CBC (Canada), The Real News (broadcast from Toronto, Canada), Al Jazeera English, and, amazingly, Russia Today. The Russians, it seems, are returning the favor that we bestowed upon them during the Soviet Era, when the U.S. and Western Europe sent accurate news across “the iron curtain” via The Voice of America and Radio Free Europe. Yes, it has come to that!

But these are all pathetically weak voices accessed by thousands, arrayed against the corporate media that is devoured by millions. And as long as this remains the case, and those millions accept uncritically the lies, myths and dogmas fed to them by the mega-corporations that own our government, there appears to be little hope of a return to economic justice and democratic government that we once enjoyed in the United States of America.

But all is not lost. As the folk tale of the boy who cried “Wolf!” reminds us, liars tend through time to lose their credibility. We should strive to accelerate this process as it applies to the corporate media by exposing the lies and boycotting the sponsors of those who tell the lies.

The experience of the Russians is instructive. My Russian friends tell me that after decades of unabashed lying by Pravda, Izvestia and Gostelradio, fewer and fewer Soviet citizens believed the state media. The facts bear them out, as history discloses that Russians instead sought out foreign sources of news such as The Voice of America and Radio Free Europe. (See my “What if America Loses its Voice”).

Some Russians were so desperate for authentic news and uncensored opinion that they risked arrest and prison by producing and distributing underground manuscripts, Samizdat, hand to hand.

When the Soviet government lost control of the hearts and minds of its citizens, its days were numbered.

In the United States, the corporate media, unlike the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, is sensitive to market forces. As ever more Americans refuse to believe the lies served up by the corporate media, the media will either reform or become politically irrelevant, and more and more attention will be directed to responsible sources of news, both foreign and domestic. The fate of Glenn Beck’s TV show and the diminishing audience of Fox “News” may be harbingers of such reform.

Whatever the outcome, Thomas Jefferson’s warning remains enduringly true: “If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be.”

The restoration of sanity in our public discourse is essential to the restoration of our democracy. Necessary, but not sufficient. In addition, the liars in public offices must be removed from those offices. And that will only happen if official election returns can once again be trusted to reflect the will of the voters, and not the output of secret software written by right wing partisans.

But that is a huge topic that deserves a separate essay – perhaps the next. Stay tuned.

Copyright 2011 by Ernest Partridge

_______
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/ernest-partridge/35479/the-big-lie



obama is the "big lie"...

no photo
Tue 04/12/11 06:39 AM
That's probably the best summary of the issue that I have read. To make it all even worst, merely pointing this out is to risk getting the critique in return. Yesterday, an avid consumer of these preposterous claims posted a message for the soul purpose of calling me a liar. It is getting impossible. At least there is usually some attempt at the discussion discussion of an issue before we get to the part where I am accused of being a liar.

Shy_Emo_chick's photo
Tue 04/12/11 09:29 AM
The government encourage unhealthy environments, which cause depression, we get hold of anti-depressants=Oh look, the government now have more money. Good for them. Lol

msharmony's photo
Tue 04/12/11 09:41 AM
smirking chimp had good commentaries, Im not sure I agree with the whole piece, but its got some interesting information to verify.

i already know the often repeated claim of what Al Gore said is not quite in context of what he ACTUALLY SAID... and I think the internet has FAR more misinformation than it does accurate information,,,,but otherwise,,,,good piece of work

mightymoe's photo
Tue 04/12/11 09:49 AM

smirking chimp had good commentaries, Im not sure I agree with the whole piece, but its got some interesting information to verify.

i already know the often repeated claim of what Al Gore said is not quite in context of what he ACTUALLY SAID... and I think the internet has FAR more misinformation than it does accurate information,,,,but otherwise,,,,good piece of work


he has a habit of posting someones blogs on here and accepting it as the truth... i never read blogs, because they are always just an opinion...

msharmony's photo
Tue 04/12/11 10:24 AM


smirking chimp had good commentaries, Im not sure I agree with the whole piece, but its got some interesting information to verify.

i already know the often repeated claim of what Al Gore said is not quite in context of what he ACTUALLY SAID... and I think the internet has FAR more misinformation than it does accurate information,,,,but otherwise,,,,good piece of work


he has a habit of posting someones blogs on here and accepting it as the truth... i never read blogs, because they are always just an opinion...



these forums are RAMPANT with opinions,,lol:tongue:


there is nothing wrong with reading or posting opinions,

so long as people understand that they are someones opinions with whom they might agree or disagree

mightymoe's photo
Tue 04/12/11 10:35 AM
Edited by mightymoe on Tue 04/12/11 10:35 AM



smirking chimp had good commentaries, Im not sure I agree with the whole piece, but its got some interesting information to verify.

i already know the often repeated claim of what Al Gore said is not quite in context of what he ACTUALLY SAID... and I think the internet has FAR more misinformation than it does accurate information,,,,but otherwise,,,,good piece of work


he has a habit of posting someones blogs on here and accepting it as the truth... i never read blogs, because they are always just an opinion...



these forums are RAMPANT with opinions,,lol:tongue:


there is nothing wrong with reading or posting opinions,

so long as people understand that they are someones opinions with whom they might agree or disagree


that's what i was saying, in my own way, that opinions are not facts


msharmony's photo
Tue 04/12/11 10:36 AM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 04/12/11 10:37 AM




smirking chimp had good commentaries, Im not sure I agree with the whole piece, but its got some interesting information to verify.

i already know the often repeated claim of what Al Gore said is not quite in context of what he ACTUALLY SAID... and I think the internet has FAR more misinformation than it does accurate information,,,,but otherwise,,,,good piece of work


he has a habit of posting someones blogs on here and accepting it as the truth... i never read blogs, because they are always just an opinion...



these forums are RAMPANT with opinions,,lol:tongue:


there is nothing wrong with reading or posting opinions,

so long as people understand that they are someones opinions with whom they might agree or disagree


that's what i was saying, in my own way, that opinions are not facts




oh man, they truly need to teach a class in public school explaining the difference in this entertainment news/internet era,,,


and while they are at it, they could also teach the difference between a promise and a proposal and a suggestion,,,etc,,,

mightymoe's photo
Tue 04/12/11 10:44 AM





smirking chimp had good commentaries, Im not sure I agree with the whole piece, but its got some interesting information to verify.

i already know the often repeated claim of what Al Gore said is not quite in context of what he ACTUALLY SAID... and I think the internet has FAR more misinformation than it does accurate information,,,,but otherwise,,,,good piece of work


he has a habit of posting someones blogs on here and accepting it as the truth... i never read blogs, because they are always just an opinion...



these forums are RAMPANT with opinions,,lol:tongue:


there is nothing wrong with reading or posting opinions,

so long as people understand that they are someones opinions with whom they might agree or disagree


that's what i was saying, in my own way, that opinions are not facts




oh man, they truly need to teach a class in public school explaining the difference in this entertainment news/internet era,,,


and while they are at it, they could also teach the difference between a promise and a proposal and a suggestion,,,etc,,,


funny you say that, my humanities class right now is on that very same topic...

msharmony's photo
Tue 04/12/11 10:51 AM






smirking chimp had good commentaries, Im not sure I agree with the whole piece, but its got some interesting information to verify.

i already know the often repeated claim of what Al Gore said is not quite in context of what he ACTUALLY SAID... and I think the internet has FAR more misinformation than it does accurate information,,,,but otherwise,,,,good piece of work


he has a habit of posting someones blogs on here and accepting it as the truth... i never read blogs, because they are always just an opinion...



these forums are RAMPANT with opinions,,lol:tongue:


there is nothing wrong with reading or posting opinions,

so long as people understand that they are someones opinions with whom they might agree or disagree


that's what i was saying, in my own way, that opinions are not facts




oh man, they truly need to teach a class in public school explaining the difference in this entertainment news/internet era,,,


and while they are at it, they could also teach the difference between a promise and a proposal and a suggestion,,,etc,,,


funny you say that, my humanities class right now is on that very same topic...




EXCELLENT

boi69's photo
Tue 04/12/11 11:24 AM

In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
-- George Orwell

Is there any limit to the outrageousness of the GOP lies?

Is there any limit to the capacity of a large number of our fellow citizens to accept these lies?

If it were in the interest of the ruling oligarchs to convince a majority of the public that the earth is flat, could they succeed?

This is, after all, a public almost half of which refuses to accept evolution – the central coordinating concept of modern biology. And approximately half of the GOP primary voters believe that Barack Obama was not born in the United States.

These unsettling thoughts came to my mind when I heard Michael Steele remark that "not in the history of mankind has the government ever created a job." This from a man who held a government job as Lieutenant Governor of Maryland. That remark was echoed by Mitch Daniels, the Governor of Indiana and Sarah Palin and I can testify that I have heard it elsewhere.

Michael Steele's comment is more audacious even than the claim that the earth is flat. (After all, the earth looks flat, doesn’t it?). To say that government never created a single job flies in the face of ordinary, everyday experience. What are police, firefighters, teachers, judges, prosecutors, postal workers, military personnel, etc engaged in if not “government jobs.” What is the construction and maintenance of roads and bridges, the certification of the safety of our food and drugs, air traffic control, if they are not “government jobs.”

The claim that government never creates jobs is so preposterous that it seems pointless even to bother to refute it.

Yet somehow, some GOP politicians freely utter this absurdity without fear of being laughed off the stage of public debate. And apparently some people, failing to give the claim even a moment’s critical reflection, believe it. Otherwise, why would Steele and others say such nonsense in the first place.

And this is only the most egregious of a long string of Republican lies thrown at the public by right-wing politicians and pundits and largely unchallenged by a complaint corporate media. Among them:

** Al Gore claimed to have invented the internet and to have discovered the toxic contamination of Love Canal.

** John Kerry’s allegedly heroic war record was fraudulent.

** Barack Obama was born in Kenya and is a secret Muslim.

** Saddam Hussein possessed weapons of mass destruction and was involved in the attacks of September 11, 2001.

** Global warming is a gigantic hoax, perpetrated by thousands of deceitful scientists.

** Obama has raised taxes.

** “Obamacare” is a “socialist government takeover of health care.”

** Ninety percent of Planned Parenthood funding is for abortion services.

** Elections in the United States are always accurate and fair.

These are not “matters of opinion,” they are flatly and demonstrably false. Clear and decisive refutation of all these claims are available to anyone who cares to examine the evidence. As Daniel Patrick Moynihan famously remarked, while we are entitled to our own opinions, we are not entitled to our own facts.

Then there are the contradictions:

** Teachers, police officers and firefighters are greedy. But billionaire CEOs and hedge-fund managers are not.

** Wall street banksters are entitled to their million-dollar bonuses because theses bonuses are contractual obligations with their firms. But the states are not required to honor their contractual obligations to public workers, obligations such as pensions and health coverage.

** Federal revenues are increased by cutting taxes (i.e., revenues).

** During the Bush administration, “Reagan proved [that] deficits don’t matter.” (Dick Cheney) In the Obama administration, the GOP tells us that the federal deficit is the Number One economic problem today.

** “Not in the history of mankind has the government ever created a job.” (Michael Steele, etc.). “Since President Obama has taken office, the federal government had added 200 thousand new federal jobs.” (John Boehner. Also false, by the way. The correct number is 56,000).

And finally, there is the “dogma” – a priori “first principles” too sacred to be doubted or subjected to rational analysis and confirmation:

** “Government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem.” (Ronald Reagan).

** Market fundamentalism: “A free market [co-ordinates] the activity of millions of people, each seeking his own interest, in such a way as to make everyone better off.” (Milton Friedman)

** Privatization: "Whenever we find an approach to the extension of private property rights [in the natural environment,] we find superior results.” (Robert J. Smith).

** “There is no such thing as society.” (Margaret Thatcher)

** “There is no such entity as ‘the public.’” (Ayn Rand)

These last two dogmas bear significant implications. For if there is no such thing as “society,” it follows that there are no social problems or “social injustice. Poverty is the fault of individuals who are sinful and lazy. And if there is no “public,” then there is no “public interest,” and thus no need for government to promote same.

A large portion of the American public believes these lies, accepts these contradictions, and embraces these dogmas, not because of supporting evidence (there is none) or cogent arguments (there are none), but out of sheer unquestioned repetition in the corporate media.

Students of propaganda methods call this “The Big Lie” – a term that has its origins in the Nazi Regime.

Congressman Steve Cohen (Democrat, Virginia) correctly observed that when the GOP claimed that “Obamacare” was “government takeover of health care,” they were engaging in a “Big Lie.” Yet when he said this on the floor of the House of Representatives, he was so mercilessly hounded by the media and his colleagues, that he felt obliged to apologize.

So now the corporate media has, in effect, ruled the expression, “The Big Lie,” out of bounds of polite political discourse, despite the fact that the term precisely describes the successful method of the right wing propagandists. In short, those who wish to complain against this practice have been effectively disarmed.

So where is the bewildered citizen to go if that citizen is to avoid the big lies and to encounter a fund of verifiable facts and informed opinion? Rule One: stay clear of the corporate media. Even The New York Times, once regarded as “the newspaper of historical record,” can no longer be trusted to deliver “all the news that’s fit to print.” Remember the hullabaloo about Bill Clinton’s “Whitewater” deal? Remember Judith Miller’s breathless disclosure of Saddam Hussein’s nefarious “aluminum tubes”? All promoted by The New York Times. All false.

So where do we find authentic news? Try National Public Radio (while it lasts) and, of course, the internet (until it is privatized and sold to the media conglomerates). Also deserving honorable mention is the evening contingent of MSNBC – O’Donnell, Maddow and Schultz. Even so, along with the entire corporate media, these worthies never question the integrity of our elections and only rarely discuss the size of the military budget, now approximately equal all the other military budgets in the world combined, including those of our allies. It should be noted that NBC, the parent company of MSNBC, is half owned by the world’s largest military contractor, General Electric.

In addition, some of the best sources of news are foreign – and all available on the internet. They include the BBC (England) and the CBC (Canada), The Real News (broadcast from Toronto, Canada), Al Jazeera English, and, amazingly, Russia Today. The Russians, it seems, are returning the favor that we bestowed upon them during the Soviet Era, when the U.S. and Western Europe sent accurate news across “the iron curtain” via The Voice of America and Radio Free Europe. Yes, it has come to that!

But these are all pathetically weak voices accessed by thousands, arrayed against the corporate media that is devoured by millions. And as long as this remains the case, and those millions accept uncritically the lies, myths and dogmas fed to them by the mega-corporations that own our government, there appears to be little hope of a return to economic justice and democratic government that we once enjoyed in the United States of America.

But all is not lost. As the folk tale of the boy who cried “Wolf!” reminds us, liars tend through time to lose their credibility. We should strive to accelerate this process as it applies to the corporate media by exposing the lies and boycotting the sponsors of those who tell the lies.

The experience of the Russians is instructive. My Russian friends tell me that after decades of unabashed lying by Pravda, Izvestia and Gostelradio, fewer and fewer Soviet citizens believed the state media. The facts bear them out, as history discloses that Russians instead sought out foreign sources of news such as The Voice of America and Radio Free Europe. (See my “What if America Loses its Voice”).

Some Russians were so desperate for authentic news and uncensored opinion that they risked arrest and prison by producing and distributing underground manuscripts, Samizdat, hand to hand.

When the Soviet government lost control of the hearts and minds of its citizens, its days were numbered.

In the United States, the corporate media, unlike the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, is sensitive to market forces. As ever more Americans refuse to believe the lies served up by the corporate media, the media will either reform or become politically irrelevant, and more and more attention will be directed to responsible sources of news, both foreign and domestic. The fate of Glenn Beck’s TV show and the diminishing audience of Fox “News” may be harbingers of such reform.

Whatever the outcome, Thomas Jefferson’s warning remains enduringly true: “If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be.”

The restoration of sanity in our public discourse is essential to the restoration of our democracy. Necessary, but not sufficient. In addition, the liars in public offices must be removed from those offices. And that will only happen if official election returns can once again be trusted to reflect the will of the voters, and not the output of secret software written by right wing partisans.

But that is a huge topic that deserves a separate essay – perhaps the next. Stay tuned.

Copyright 2011 by Ernest Partridge

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http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/ernest-partridge/35479/the-big-lie




They know they have been caught up in somethings that where nothing more than flat out lies. It was desperation and the people saw that. Maybe republicans can go back to there true nature now. All i think they care about know is beating Obama

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Tue 04/12/11 11:28 AM


In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
-- George Orwell

Is there any limit to the outrageousness of the GOP lies?

Is there any limit to the capacity of a large number of our fellow citizens to accept these lies?

If it were in the interest of the ruling oligarchs to convince a majority of the public that the earth is flat, could they succeed?

This is, after all, a public almost half of which refuses to accept evolution – the central coordinating concept of modern biology. And approximately half of the GOP primary voters believe that Barack Obama was not born in the United States.

These unsettling thoughts came to my mind when I heard Michael Steele remark that "not in the history of mankind has the government ever created a job." This from a man who held a government job as Lieutenant Governor of Maryland. That remark was echoed by Mitch Daniels, the Governor of Indiana and Sarah Palin and I can testify that I have heard it elsewhere.

Michael Steele's comment is more audacious even than the claim that the earth is flat. (After all, the earth looks flat, doesn’t it?). To say that government never created a single job flies in the face of ordinary, everyday experience. What are police, firefighters, teachers, judges, prosecutors, postal workers, military personnel, etc engaged in if not “government jobs.” What is the construction and maintenance of roads and bridges, the certification of the safety of our food and drugs, air traffic control, if they are not “government jobs.”

The claim that government never creates jobs is so preposterous that it seems pointless even to bother to refute it.

Yet somehow, some GOP politicians freely utter this absurdity without fear of being laughed off the stage of public debate. And apparently some people, failing to give the claim even a moment’s critical reflection, believe it. Otherwise, why would Steele and others say such nonsense in the first place.

And this is only the most egregious of a long string of Republican lies thrown at the public by right-wing politicians and pundits and largely unchallenged by a complaint corporate media. Among them:

** Al Gore claimed to have invented the internet and to have discovered the toxic contamination of Love Canal.

** John Kerry’s allegedly heroic war record was fraudulent.

** Barack Obama was born in Kenya and is a secret Muslim.

** Saddam Hussein possessed weapons of mass destruction and was involved in the attacks of September 11, 2001.

** Global warming is a gigantic hoax, perpetrated by thousands of deceitful scientists.

** Obama has raised taxes.

** “Obamacare” is a “socialist government takeover of health care.”

** Ninety percent of Planned Parenthood funding is for abortion services.

** Elections in the United States are always accurate and fair.

These are not “matters of opinion,” they are flatly and demonstrably false. Clear and decisive refutation of all these claims are available to anyone who cares to examine the evidence. As Daniel Patrick Moynihan famously remarked, while we are entitled to our own opinions, we are not entitled to our own facts.

Then there are the contradictions:

** Teachers, police officers and firefighters are greedy. But billionaire CEOs and hedge-fund managers are not.

** Wall street banksters are entitled to their million-dollar bonuses because theses bonuses are contractual obligations with their firms. But the states are not required to honor their contractual obligations to public workers, obligations such as pensions and health coverage.

** Federal revenues are increased by cutting taxes (i.e., revenues).

** During the Bush administration, “Reagan proved [that] deficits don’t matter.” (Dick Cheney) In the Obama administration, the GOP tells us that the federal deficit is the Number One economic problem today.

** “Not in the history of mankind has the government ever created a job.” (Michael Steele, etc.). “Since President Obama has taken office, the federal government had added 200 thousand new federal jobs.” (John Boehner. Also false, by the way. The correct number is 56,000).

And finally, there is the “dogma” – a priori “first principles” too sacred to be doubted or subjected to rational analysis and confirmation:

** “Government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem.” (Ronald Reagan).

** Market fundamentalism: “A free market [co-ordinates] the activity of millions of people, each seeking his own interest, in such a way as to make everyone better off.” (Milton Friedman)

** Privatization: "Whenever we find an approach to the extension of private property rights [in the natural environment,] we find superior results.” (Robert J. Smith).

** “There is no such thing as society.” (Margaret Thatcher)

** “There is no such entity as ‘the public.’” (Ayn Rand)

These last two dogmas bear significant implications. For if there is no such thing as “society,” it follows that there are no social problems or “social injustice. Poverty is the fault of individuals who are sinful and lazy. And if there is no “public,” then there is no “public interest,” and thus no need for government to promote same.

A large portion of the American public believes these lies, accepts these contradictions, and embraces these dogmas, not because of supporting evidence (there is none) or cogent arguments (there are none), but out of sheer unquestioned repetition in the corporate media.

Students of propaganda methods call this “The Big Lie” – a term that has its origins in the Nazi Regime.

Congressman Steve Cohen (Democrat, Virginia) correctly observed that when the GOP claimed that “Obamacare” was “government takeover of health care,” they were engaging in a “Big Lie.” Yet when he said this on the floor of the House of Representatives, he was so mercilessly hounded by the media and his colleagues, that he felt obliged to apologize.

So now the corporate media has, in effect, ruled the expression, “The Big Lie,” out of bounds of polite political discourse, despite the fact that the term precisely describes the successful method of the right wing propagandists. In short, those who wish to complain against this practice have been effectively disarmed.

So where is the bewildered citizen to go if that citizen is to avoid the big lies and to encounter a fund of verifiable facts and informed opinion? Rule One: stay clear of the corporate media. Even The New York Times, once regarded as “the newspaper of historical record,” can no longer be trusted to deliver “all the news that’s fit to print.” Remember the hullabaloo about Bill Clinton’s “Whitewater” deal? Remember Judith Miller’s breathless disclosure of Saddam Hussein’s nefarious “aluminum tubes”? All promoted by The New York Times. All false.

So where do we find authentic news? Try National Public Radio (while it lasts) and, of course, the internet (until it is privatized and sold to the media conglomerates). Also deserving honorable mention is the evening contingent of MSNBC – O’Donnell, Maddow and Schultz. Even so, along with the entire corporate media, these worthies never question the integrity of our elections and only rarely discuss the size of the military budget, now approximately equal all the other military budgets in the world combined, including those of our allies. It should be noted that NBC, the parent company of MSNBC, is half owned by the world’s largest military contractor, General Electric.

In addition, some of the best sources of news are foreign – and all available on the internet. They include the BBC (England) and the CBC (Canada), The Real News (broadcast from Toronto, Canada), Al Jazeera English, and, amazingly, Russia Today. The Russians, it seems, are returning the favor that we bestowed upon them during the Soviet Era, when the U.S. and Western Europe sent accurate news across “the iron curtain” via The Voice of America and Radio Free Europe. Yes, it has come to that!

But these are all pathetically weak voices accessed by thousands, arrayed against the corporate media that is devoured by millions. And as long as this remains the case, and those millions accept uncritically the lies, myths and dogmas fed to them by the mega-corporations that own our government, there appears to be little hope of a return to economic justice and democratic government that we once enjoyed in the United States of America.

But all is not lost. As the folk tale of the boy who cried “Wolf!” reminds us, liars tend through time to lose their credibility. We should strive to accelerate this process as it applies to the corporate media by exposing the lies and boycotting the sponsors of those who tell the lies.

The experience of the Russians is instructive. My Russian friends tell me that after decades of unabashed lying by Pravda, Izvestia and Gostelradio, fewer and fewer Soviet citizens believed the state media. The facts bear them out, as history discloses that Russians instead sought out foreign sources of news such as The Voice of America and Radio Free Europe. (See my “What if America Loses its Voice”).

Some Russians were so desperate for authentic news and uncensored opinion that they risked arrest and prison by producing and distributing underground manuscripts, Samizdat, hand to hand.

When the Soviet government lost control of the hearts and minds of its citizens, its days were numbered.

In the United States, the corporate media, unlike the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, is sensitive to market forces. As ever more Americans refuse to believe the lies served up by the corporate media, the media will either reform or become politically irrelevant, and more and more attention will be directed to responsible sources of news, both foreign and domestic. The fate of Glenn Beck’s TV show and the diminishing audience of Fox “News” may be harbingers of such reform.

Whatever the outcome, Thomas Jefferson’s warning remains enduringly true: “If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be.”

The restoration of sanity in our public discourse is essential to the restoration of our democracy. Necessary, but not sufficient. In addition, the liars in public offices must be removed from those offices. And that will only happen if official election returns can once again be trusted to reflect the will of the voters, and not the output of secret software written by right wing partisans.

But that is a huge topic that deserves a separate essay – perhaps the next. Stay tuned.

Copyright 2011 by Ernest Partridge

_______
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/ernest-partridge/35479/the-big-lie




They know they have been caught up in somethings that where nothing more than flat out lies. It was desperation and the people saw that. Maybe republicans can go back to there true nature now. All i think they care about know is beating Obama
and all the libs care about is their lies and beating the repubs... is there a point to the party bashing?

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Tue 04/12/11 03:11 PM

That's probably the best summary of the issue that I have read. To make it all even worst, merely pointing this out is to risk getting the critique in return. Yesterday, an avid consumer of these preposterous claims posted a message for the soul purpose of calling me a liar. It is getting impossible. At least there is usually some attempt at the discussion discussion of an issue before we get to the part where I am accused of being a liar.




I was referring to the propaganda you copy and paste from your favorite left wing sites..

I don't believe you are a liar. I think that you are a true believer..






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Tue 04/12/11 03:59 PM
Edited by artlo on Tue 04/12/11 04:01 PM
I don't believe you are a liar. I think that you are a true believer..
Thank you for that. I guess that one ma's propaganda is another man's truth. I would sometimes like to hear some details as to what makes my truths propaganda. Did you find the items listed in the original post to be fraudulent?

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Tue 04/12/11 04:50 PM
Edited by Chazster on Tue 04/12/11 04:51 PM
Lets look at some of the things he claims are republican lies and see if we can possibly debunk them.

Global warming is not a proven thing. Many scientists know that the Earths temperature does change and has a cycle.

Al Gore did say he "created" the internet. The claim he invented it would be more of an exaggeration but not a lie. If I asked you who created peanut butter wouldn't most people think of the person who invented it?

I am not saying Obama was born in Kenya but unless you can produce proof he wasn't then it is not a lie. There has yet to be any proof produced he was born in this country. (to my knowledge)

Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi' lied about Saddam having WMDs not the GOP. He was an Irqi defector.

Thats just what I have off the top of my head.

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Tue 04/12/11 05:20 PM

Lets look at some of the things he claims are republican lies and see if we can possibly debunk them.

Global warming is not a proven thing. Many scientists know that the Earths temperature does change and has a cycle.

Al Gore did say he "created" the internet. The claim he invented it would be more of an exaggeration but not a lie. If I asked you who created peanut butter wouldn't most people think of the person who invented it?

I am not saying Obama was born in Kenya but unless you can produce proof he wasn't then it is not a lie. There has yet to be any proof produced he was born in this country. (to my knowledge)

Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi' lied about Saddam having WMDs not the GOP. He was an Irqi defector.

Thats just what I have off the top of my head.
No big suprise that your misinformed on this one. Al Gore never said he invented the internet nor did he say anything that could be interpeted that way by any reasonable person.

"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet."

Read the whole interview here. http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/03/09/president.2000/transcript.gore/index.html

Imagine how much better off this country would be had we elected Al Gore rather than Bush. Its to bad the republican smear machine managed to fool enough gullible americans to vote against their own self interests.

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Tue 04/12/11 05:25 PM


Lets look at some of the things he claims are republican lies and see if we can possibly debunk them.

Global warming is not a proven thing. Many scientists know that the Earths temperature does change and has a cycle.

Al Gore did say he "created" the internet. The claim he invented it would be more of an exaggeration but not a lie. If I asked you who created peanut butter wouldn't most people think of the person who invented it?

I am not saying Obama was born in Kenya but unless you can produce proof he wasn't then it is not a lie. There has yet to be any proof produced he was born in this country. (to my knowledge)

Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi' lied about Saddam having WMDs not the GOP. He was an Irqi defector.

Thats just what I have off the top of my head.
No big suprise that your misinformed on this one. Al Gore never said he invented the internet nor did he say anything that could be interpeted that way by any reasonable person.

"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet."

Read the whole interview here. http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/03/09/president.2000/transcript.gore/index.html

Imagine how much better off this country would be had we elected Al Gore rather than Bush. Its to bad the republican smear machine managed to fool enough gullible americans to vote against their own self interests.


Yes he said he "created" the internet. That is exactly what I said. Please read my post.

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Tue 04/12/11 05:35 PM



Lets look at some of the things he claims are republican lies and see if we can possibly debunk them.

Global warming is not a proven thing. Many scientists know that the Earths temperature does change and has a cycle.

Al Gore did say he "created" the internet. The claim he invented it would be more of an exaggeration but not a lie. If I asked you who created peanut butter wouldn't most people think of the person who invented it?

I am not saying Obama was born in Kenya but unless you can produce proof he wasn't then it is not a lie. There has yet to be any proof produced he was born in this country. (to my knowledge)

Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi' lied about Saddam having WMDs not the GOP. He was an Irqi defector.

Thats just what I have off the top of my head.
No big suprise that your misinformed on this one. Al Gore never said he invented the internet nor did he say anything that could be interpeted that way by any reasonable person.

"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet."

Read the whole interview here. http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/03/09/president.2000/transcript.gore/index.html

Imagine how much better off this country would be had we elected Al Gore rather than Bush. Its to bad the republican smear machine managed to fool enough gullible americans to vote against their own self interests.


Yes he said he "created" the internet. That is exactly what I said. Please read my post.


In 1988 Al Gore sponsored the National High Performance Computer Act which created a national computing plan and began connecting other Universities and Libraries to the existing ARPANET network.


Then, Al Gore began to craft the High Performance Computing and Communication Act of 1991 (commonly referred to as "The Gore Bill") after hearing the 1988 report toward a National Research Network submitted to Congress by a group chaired by UCLA professor of computer science, Leonard Kleinrock, one of the central creators of the ARPANET (the ARPANET, first deployed by Kleinrock and others in 1969, is the predecessor of the Internet). The bill was passed on December 9, 1991 and led to the National Information Infrastructure (NII) which Gore referred to as the "information superhighway."

SO, while quite amusing to see ignorant people who know nothing about the history of the Internet perpetuate the lie that Al Gore had nothing to do with it. Al Gore did in fact take the initiative in creating the the internet.


He is actually owed quite a bit of thanks and credit for there being an internet today.



Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Did_Al_Gore_really_say_he_invented_the_internet#ixzz1JMJT6U75

no photo
Tue 04/12/11 05:38 PM
Edited by artlo on Tue 04/12/11 05:48 PM
Somebody pleas explain the difference between "creating" something and "taking the initiative" in creating something?
Initiative –noun. 1. an introductory act or step; leading action:
Which is exactly what he did. Far cry from "inventing". Probably means something different in Japan

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