I don't think anyone is doom and gloom here at all.

I don't believe in 'angels' as depicted in the bible.

However in my travels I have seen people of all races and religions behave in a way the reminded me of the presence of God...

So I reckon I understand what 'angelic' is...

we are all angels....

In gods eye.

I believe I have but still hyard to say for sure. The one I remember the best happened in Dec 1981.

I was traveling to My AF Base in New Mexico from Denver close to Raton NM. when I stopped to get gas it was cold but not real bad. as i went in a guy come out with a staff and sheepskin with no shoes. de4finately noticed that. when i paid for my gas I asked if he was a local and they said no never seen him before. He was walking down the highway and I drove slow by him and it was very flat ground and i had a friend with me. after i drove by we decide to go back and pick him up. I looked in my rearview mirror and he was gone. We stopped got out and looked around and noway could he got out of our sight.. we went on to our base bewildered by this. Well just a few days later i was watching the news and somewhere in Florida a cop had picked up a hitch hiker gave the same description to the dispatch of the guy i had seen in sheepskin and no shoes with a staff.. He was locked in the back seat of the patrol car going like 60 mph i think and the guy said the messiah would be back soon to him.. he looked in his rearview mirror and he was gone. he freaked out and the news said he refused to leave a ch-rch where he was praying.

I remember it like it was yesterday. what else could we of saw and i truely believe I saw what that cop saw. Blessings...Miles

weird... i was in south Florida, i saw the face of jesus in a storm cloud... it was very pronounced, and looked exactly like him.. there were four of us, and i was the only one to see it... and i don't even believe in god/jesus...i'll never forget that tho, took my breath away with that stare...

most have probably seen the Angel of Death

She's a necromantic witch
wickedly equipped
to call upon the spirits
that lie beyond the crypt

She'll chase away the angels
and summon demons from the tomb
Her besom's quite neglected
and she never sweeps her room

She's a negligent practitioner
of magickal ability
when summoning a friendly ghost
she conjures up hostility!

Not knowing what she's doing
she warns of the occult.
Be careful if you try this
or you'll get the same result!

Charge your besom with your love
and sweep your circle round
you'll always meet the angels
and leave the demons in the ground

I was just relaying my experiences. You're right, though. My advice is not worth much and no one should listen to me when it comes to these things.

I'm just picking on you.

But seriously, you shouldn't be open to those sorts of things if you follow all the correct procedures. For example, did you invoke Micheal (or some other spiritual protector) before you even started the séance?

Did you perform this séance within a properly cast circle?

I don't see how you can call up all your spirit guides and protectors and have something go wrong.

When I cast a circle it's like a party here. No evil spirit would dare come near this place with all these spirit guides and protectors here.

You didn't just perform a séance out of the blue without a properly cast circle and spirit guides who had actually consented to taking part in this ritual did you?

If you did, then shame on you.

You're bound to get a boogieman that way.

does Azazel count as an angel? I met him and one of the other crowned princes.

I would have to agree with you here! Coolest experience I've ever had was going to heaven and then coming back. I can't even begin to describe it actually, the feeling...the peace...I didn't want to return but "my angels" that were waiting there...I dunno, just wasn't my time I guess. But I can tell you this, I'm not afraid of dying now (provided I'm still headed north on my demise!).

So yes, I've seen angels...I've seen 'the light'...I've felt heaven on earth...and I consider myself truly blessed and humbled for it.

You mean, you lose your free will (to ask the angel a sensible question, or any question, if you so choose, because that's "not what happens wehn you meet an angel")?

But it was god according to your faith who gave you free will.

So the angel's appearance nullifies god's action, and reverses the action of god's doing.

So you met Satan.

Don't you dare to deny that!!

At the risk of being reprimanded for saying the following, I strongly suspect your brain was not revived, though your soul and your body was.

haha! Joke! Friendly banter!! Don't take offence, Shiki, please, because none was intended.

Oh, in case you did not know... butterflies carry the viruses for 23 human diseases, including the common flu, the grocer's coma, the bad grammar, and the black plague.

Just saying. Not everything is gold that shines. Not everything is naive and innocent that flutters.

I think that is an excellent question.

Does Mr. Vereschak count as an Angel? Known formerly as Dr. Vereschak. I met him three times.

when the religious intentionly and/or knowingly sin in front of the eyes of God.....isn't that an indication that they met the angel Satan

Not to my knowledge. Though it does depend on your source or sources sometimes.

which would mean that the devil didn't make them do it...and being bad can be devilishly fun....

I could never understand why believer's knowing sin and then blame Satan...wouldn't that be proof that they don't love God as they claimed....wouldn't knowingly and intentionaly committing sin be the same as cheating on God with Satan

Satan can not make anyone do anything. All Satan can do is tempt one to do something or don't do something. That right there is why we have a judgment. We will have a judgment of our actions through our lives for every action one takes, they are accountable for it. For the only reason one does an action is cause that one chose to do it. Again, all Satan can do is tempt someone.

Cowboy there have been times in our debating that you have admitted that you were weak and listened to Satan ....so were you lying?

No I was not lying, don't know where you get off asking that. Satan did not MAKE me do the sins I've done in my life. It is from my own personal actions when I failed God who art in heaven. Satan didn't make me do it, he didn't force me to do it, he didn't do anything other then tempt me to do such things. That is where our judgment comes from. If we obeyed God in his instructions or fell into the temptation trap and did the will of Satan. But NEVERTHELESS, it is from that person's own choice to do the action. They were not again, forced, made, or anything along those lines. Just merely enticed to do it and listened. Again, that is where our judgment will come from, who we chose to obey.

are you sure you're not lying..

if Satan as you just claimed had nothing to do with you intentionly sinning then why are you claiming in that same exact post that Satan tempted you..... make up your mind

did Satan have nothing to do with you sinning or did Satan tempt you...which is it