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Topic: Not as much Respect as it was in the Past
thewaterbearer Joined Sun 10/25/09 Posts: 19759	Wed 02/09/11 07:15 PM
We need more shows like this to much violent crap nowadays on tv.

iam4u Joined Fri 10/13/06 Posts: 30096	Wed 02/09/11 07:18 PM
Do you think people now disrespect people a lot more then years ago and why??? well years ago people cared for others open up doors more and kids would respect there parents not talk back as much and neighbors would not fight as much , people were more kind and loving ,and a lot more happy even when they did not have as much ,my self i see a huge change in life its so sad ,i loved the old comedy's like Red Skelton ,Marx brothers ,3 stoodges,Abbott and Costello,Jerry Lewis ,The Honeymooners,and a bunch more i wish they had more funny comedy's like that again ,now theres more killing fighting hatred movies and not as much fun Comedy's and kids buy all the fighting games when i was young i played Hockey ,football,hide and seek ,one man chase,soccer, stuff like that ,theres to much Violence and killing now and i think it lead to more and more disrespect and not Enough Laughter and fun ,When i was younger we would show respect to are Elders and care about are neighbors more and people in General whats your opinion all????? we need more laughter too and happiness polite is not as profitable for the bottom line disrespect has now been labeled as 'honesty' in most situations money and greed rules us far too much its an every man for themself mentality that has slowly replaced the mentality of community and family authority and experience equate to nothing, so respecting 'elders' is seen as some afront to an individuals own ability and knowledge and no longer promoted in the mainstream equality goes to extremes where age no longer makes ANY difference in our society and people feel other should first EARN their respect so everyone continues to sit around and wait on respect because SOMEONE has to be first all these things seem truer now than ever before, BUT , are they really? I think the pendulum of time swings back and forth between extremes and SOMEWHERE in mankinds history(babylon perhaps?) things have been just the same,,,,until something drastic happened to change it and the trend will most likely repeat at this stage, something will eventually happen to start the pendulum swinging back Miss Harmony,,,YOU SPOKE HERE,,,perfectly to my own answer,,,so YOUR views,,,match what NOW,,I need not say,,,, Thank You.....

Monier Joined Sat 03/17/07 Posts: 3337	Wed 02/09/11 07:58 PM Edited by Monier on Wed 02/09/11 08:02 PM
We may disrespect more these days with words, but it is a step up in society today compared to our jaded past. Now we are more likely to assault each other with words than with our hands. If this is as far as our aggression usually reaches, consider it healthy venting about something or somebody that we don't understand. Are there as many ignorant people beating up gays just for being gay as there were in the past? These days will an entire neighboorhood label a young girl as a whore just because she is pregnant, underage and not married? Are people still spit on in public and told they are'nt wanted around just because of the color of their skin? If the most harm that we can do to each other is disrespecting through words, then we have come a long way. What was that they used to say about sticks and stones? Our kids are truly beggining to embrace each other's cultures. In another 20 years, societys definition of respect could be drastically different than it is now.

Cheer_up Joined Tue 11/02/10 Posts: 3269	Thu 02/10/11 01:54 PM
We just see it more today, can't really say if it is more prevalent today than it was back in the 50's. Just the same it is a poor comparison anyway given technological advances and population growth. ........yes we can say it is cause we didn't have all that crap stuff back then are minds were on a different conception of life stimulating the brain in a diff life wave .............So in other words your saying cause of population growth thats part of the reason for less respect? people can respect people no matter if you 1 million or 100 but i can say the technological advances in fighting games and violent games has a lot to do with it as you can read......Over the years, there have been literally hundreds of studies examining the connection between media violence and violence in real-life, the results of which were summarized in a joint statement signed by representatives from six of the nation's top public health organizations, including the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Psychological Association, and the American Medical Association: "Well over 1000 studies…point overwhelmingly to a causal connection between media violence and aggressive behavior in some children. The conclusion of the public health community, based on over 30 years of research, is that viewing entertainment violence can lead to increases in aggressive attitudes, values and behavior, particularly in children." Today, the connection between media violence and aggressive and violent behavior in real life has been so well documented, that for many, the question is settled. In fact, a position paper by the American Psychiatric Association on media violence begins by declaring: "The debate is over." According to Jeffrey McIntyre, legislative and federal affairs officer for the American Psychological Association, "To argue against it is like arguing against gravity." thanks for your comment thou:)Cheers Violent video games don't create violent people. Violent people are usually already in a disposition to be violent, whether how they were brought up or who the interacted with while young. Violent media is a scapegoat used by irresponsible parents so that they don't have to take the blame when their child goes and does something stupid. Kind of funny actually, movies were far more violent in the 70's and for the general portion of it most serial killers were born in the 40's or 50's, so they grew up in the 50's or 60's. Which makes this argument as asinine as it was when it started in the 90's. If our kids are being lead by the media...the last thing we need to worry about is the media. Well its been a proven fact if you put a bad apple in a bunch of good apples they become bad and where is your proof that most violent killers were born later i just looked it up :) but theres proof that if you born into violents you can become that and proof on games and the studies i have showed you already proved it and sorry your wrong movies of 70s and now theres more now my friend look it up cheers cause a lot more produced now too sad but true It hasn't been a proven fact, and just as many studies if not more have shown no tangible connection. Have you studied it? Because I've been studying it since 1999...the only sad but true part of this debate is that people still blame violent media in place of blaming parents. Also, you haven't show me any studies, you blurted out a few random words you found on the internet. Most of the studies conducted are on children younger than 14, and if your kids are younger than 14 partaking in violent media the first responsibility lies in your ill-advised choices. Before ratings were developed in the 80's this wasn't an argument, even though comparitively speaking 70's movies were far more violent. Sure, there are more movies now, but they are nowhere near as violent due to the MPAA. Quit trying to validate irresponsible parenting and just deal with the fact that some parents are irresponsible in raising their children. How about we actually try to solve the issue instead of pointing fingers and playing the blame game, which, since the early 90's has gotten us absolutely nowhere. Violence isn't going away, not in movies, TV, or video games. That is why there is a rating system in place, children should not play games that are outside their respective age. They say up until the age of 14 and child's mind is still developing, why, in all of ****, would a parent let a 14 year old watch violent movies and play violent video games...again, the problem is the parents, not the media. Yes i agree a lot comes down to parents and i don't have any kids myself but years ago there were more comedys that to me was way more funny then now ,and years ago kids played more sports and mor active then doing violent games , Let's face it - we're a lot more violent than we were even 20 years ago. Every day the newscasts and newspapers are full of stories about drive-by shootings, gang attacks, murders, knifings - if its violent, we do it. Have we become so desensitized to the violence that it doesn't bother us any more? And you can't blame the economy, since this increase in violence has been going on for some time. It's no longer safe in most places to take a walk after dark, sit in your front yard or on the front porch if you have one - there's a good chance you're going to become a victim of mindless, insensitive violence. ........now years ago people left doors unlocked there was not as much gangs there was more respect , its just sad what i saying sooooooooo sad people get no love from there parents and turn to a gang for love cause they care about each other i think a lot has to do with love a lot has been gone sad my friend but true , and the studies i showed violent games do not help if anything can make it worse , CHEERS:)

Cheer_up Joined Tue 11/02/10 Posts: 3269	Thu 02/10/11 02:01 PM
Our world is a reflection of us....we are a violent and selfish society. We live in constant war and instant gratification mentality and wonder why the youth don't live up to our standards...maybe we have not lived up to theirs. Ditto, I feel that maybe we have lost site ourselves therefore not teaching our youth the basics. We as a society must lay the road and values for those ahead in order for them to learn. We can't expect more from them then what we in fact give of ourselves. i agree its really sad the way values have changed over the years and your right if kids seeing parents doing something wrong they just follow and think its normal i see your point thanks for your comments

Cheer_up Joined Tue 11/02/10 Posts: 3269	Thu 02/10/11 02:04 PM
We need more shows like this to much violent crap nowadays on tv. i 100% AGREE your right i wish they bring back some of them old funnies they really made me laugh

Cheer_up Joined Tue 11/02/10 Posts: 3269	Fri 02/11/11 09:39 AM
If any like to see the 3 stoodges on the net here look at this site it says its free and a lot of funny comedys there to remember how a lot of people relaxed in older days http://emol.org/movies/threestooges/colorcraziness/index.html Enjoy all cheers

krupa Joined Thu 07/03/08 Posts: 18651	Sat 02/12/11 07:04 AM
Then again...there is still plenty of respect out there. Respect is earned...it aint a birthrite. Focusing on the negative aspects of our society is useless to me....All that I can do is be the best man I can be and hope that it makes my world better. Lets face it....perceptions of the "respectful societies of the past" are contingent on one thing....If a kid opened his mouth wrong, he WOULD be beaten with a belt....People of the past learned very early on to shut the hell up or get your @$$ whipped. Now that kids aint getting physically discipled....they get away with more than what we got to get away with....Sure I would like to take a belt and beat some kids and slap thier mammies and pappys for being failures but....Plenty of people of all ages show respect in many ways.

sweetestgirl11 Joined Fri 09/12/08 Posts: 30087	Sat 02/12/11 07:19 AM
Do you think people now disrespect people a lot more then years ago and why??? well years ago people cared for others open up doors more and kids would respect there parents not talk back as much and neighbors would not fight as much , people were more kind and loving ,and a lot more happy even when they did not have as much ,my self i see a huge change in life its so sad ,i loved the old comedy's like Red Skelton ,Marx brothers ,3 stoodges,Abbott and Costello,Jerry Lewis ,The Honeymooners,and a bunch more i wish they had more funny comedy's like that again ,now theres more killing fighting hatred movies and not as much fun Comedy's and kids buy all the fighting games when i was young i played Hockey ,football,hide and seek ,one man chase,soccer, stuff like that ,theres to much Violence and killing now and i think it lead to more and more disrespect and not Enough Laughter and fun ,When i was younger we would show respect to are Elders and care about are neighbors more and people in General whats your opinion all????? we need more laughter too and happiness polite is not as profitable for the bottom line disrespect has now been labeled as 'honesty' in most situations money and greed rules us far too much its an every man for themself mentality that has slowly replaced the mentality of community and family authority and experience equate to nothing, so respecting 'elders' is seen as some afront to an individuals own ability and knowledge and no longer promoted in the mainstream equality goes to extremes where age no longer makes ANY difference in our society and people feel other should first EARN their respect so everyone continues to sit around and wait on respect because SOMEONE has to be first all these things seem truer now than ever before, BUT , are they really? I think the pendulum of time swings back and forth between extremes and SOMEWHERE in mankinds history(babylon perhaps?) things have been just the same,,,,until something drastic happened to change it and the trend will most likely repeat at this stage, something will eventually happen to start the pendulum swinging back good post msharmony in particular I'd like to comment on your idea that honesty has been replaced by disrespect. I agree, but IDK that it's anything totally new. As I remember girlhood friends in high school saying "well I was just being "honest" but I think that one irks me the most. There is a lack of respect that is mainstream. When I meet someone - particularly much younger, who is respectful, I almost always compliment them because it is so rare now when I was younger it would not have occurred to my peer group to be as disrespectful to our elders - that has changed, and not for the better -tho it has always been somewhat more true in the states than in other societies I recently left a job where I believe that age discrimination was RAMPANT and my management did nothing about it and may have even encouraged it. I worked with the rudest group of 20-somethings I have ever encountered - but I'm not upset with them - they're too young to have a clue, but need to get one pretty quick before someone sues the job. I'd like to collectively smack their parents tho.

sweetestgirl11 Joined Fri 09/12/08 Posts: 30087	Sat 02/12/11 07:25 AM
Then again...there is still plenty of respect out there. Respect is earned...it aint a birthrite. Focusing on the negative aspects of our society is useless to me....All that I can do is be the best man I can be and hope that it makes my world better. Lets face it....perceptions of the "respectful societies of the past" are contingent on one thing....If a kid opened his mouth wrong, he WOULD be beaten with a belt....People of the past learned very early on to shut the hell up or get your @$$ whipped. Now that kids aint getting physically discipled....they get away with more than what we got to get away with....Sure I would like to take a belt and beat some kids and slap thier mammies and pappys for being failures but....Plenty of people of all ages show respect in many ways. I agree that respectful people are every where, but after that I can't disagree with you more everyone is entitled to respect, and when another behaves disprespectfully it only makes the rude slob look bad. Treating others with respect speaks to an individual's integrity and is a reflection of how one feels about oneself. I thing when physical punishment is administered it tends to foster far more disrespect than it cures as it is difficult to respect an authority that abuses- fear yes - respect - no. fear and respect are not the same thing

GravelRidgeBoy Joined Thu 01/06/11 Posts: 507	Sat 02/12/11 09:03 AM
People are talking about how bad the stuff is on TV here, but the people who make the shows are criticized if they try to copy the old stuff... they say they lack imagination or their own idea and are just copying an older show. So the only thing they can do is try to "one up" the last big hit that came out. Before when someone on the TV was beat up, you might see the people go into a back alley or something and the viewers would see their shadows fighting, then came the staged fighting but that was not even enough so they had to make sure the people were overly bloody. Then the TV people had to go beyond that to make it bloody in new ways that most people have never even thought of doing to another person but when that has lost the shock factor they are working on 3D movies to make the guts look like they are flying right at you. I guess the only thing left is to have actual blood and guts fly at you while watching a show, or go third world and watch live tortures... This seems to be the way things are headed because it is what is selling I guess...

sweetestgirl11 Joined Fri 09/12/08 Posts: 30087	Sat 02/12/11 10:33 AM
People are talking about how bad the stuff is on TV here, but the people who make the shows are criticized if they try to copy the old stuff... they say they lack imagination or their own idea and are just copying an older show. So the only thing they can do is try to "one up" the last big hit that came out. Before when someone on the TV was beat up, you might see the people go into a back alley or something and the viewers would see their shadows fighting, then came the staged fighting but that was not even enough so they had to make sure the people were overly bloody. Then the TV people had to go beyond that to make it bloody in new ways that most people have never even thought of doing to another person but when that has lost the shock factor they are working on 3D movies to make the guts look like they are flying right at you. I guess the only thing left is to have actual blood and guts fly at you while watching a show, or go third world and watch live tortures... This seems to be the way things are headed because it is what is selling I guess... don't think the virtual matrix hasn't thought of it but yes, to your mention of the media - there is educational reseach available that evidences the desensitization to violence and the potential ill effect of television on achievement and behavior in children. NO TV in my house - and my kids never watched network TV until their father allowed them to after the divorce. he did them no favors now when I catch glimpses of network TV when I am out & about I am appalled at the stupidity of it

artlo Joined Sat 01/29/11 Posts: 3085	Sat 02/12/11 10:45 AM Edited by artlo on Sat 02/12/11 10:46 AM
I think it's closely related to the issue of bullying in the schools. Incivility has always been attractive to parts of society for all kinds of reasons. Bad parents, bad psychology, bad role models, all that stuff. What disturbs me is that it has become legitimized in the name of "honesty" and "frankness". How many times have you heard something like this? The little kid talks around the whole school about how that little girl is fat, ugly and stupid. And besides, she smells bad You: You shouldn't talk about somebody like that. The kid: Well, it's TRUE. Then what? (You: Weeell, I suppose we want our kids to be honest and frank)? I've heard this kind of excuse from grown ADULTS.

sweetestgirl11 Joined Fri 09/12/08 Posts: 30087	Sat 02/12/11 10:56 AM
I think it's closely related to the issue of bullying in the schools. Incivility has always been attractive to parts of society for all kinds of reasons. Bad parents, bad psychology, bad role models, all that stuff. What disturbs me is that it has become legitimized in the name of "honesty" and "frankness". How many times have you heard something like this? The little kid talks around the whole school about how that little girl is fat, ugly and stupid. And besides, she smells bad You: You shouldn't talk about somebody like that. The kid: Well, it's TRUE. Then what? (You: Weeell, I suppose we want our kids to be honest and frank)? I've heard this kind of excuse from grown ADULTS. and as often as not it is NOT true - either way the adults have lost the balls to intervene and teach junior some manners - when parents do not spend adequate time and effort raising their offspring, they (parents) do not develop the tools to know how to deal with the disrespectful retort you have described artlo, often they feel guilty to discipline properly or wont take the time to do so...to straighten out the kid in your example would take some time...and effort.....