WASHINGTON — A leading U.S. Senate Democrat said on Tuesday that President Barack Obama's healthcare overhaul will likely survive an effort by Senate Republicans to repeal the year-old law.

Senator Charles Schumer told reporters that there is enough support in the Senate to keep the healthcare law intact.

"I think there is support ... on the floor, to make sure the basic health care bill stays intact," Schumer said.

All 47 Senate Republicans have backed a bill to repeal the law.

Fla. judge rules health care law unconstitutional
But that falls short of the 60 needed to overcome procedural hurdles in the 100-member Senate. Republicans may try to offer the repeal, which passed the House on January 19, as an amendment to an unrelated airline safety bill as early this week.

A federal judge in Florida ruled on Monday to strike down the entire law, because he found a mandate for most people to purchase health coverage unconstitutional, has given fresh impetus to the Republican repeal effort.

Senate GOP to try to force health care repeal vote
"Yesterday's ruling out of Florida, only adds to the urgency of repeal," Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell said in a Senate speech.

Republicans argue that the law places too big a financial burden on small businesses and that the mandate to purchase insurance violates the Constitution. The constitutional issue is expected to be eventually settled by the U.S. Supreme Court.

Democrats have been using the repeal move to try to highlight the more politically popular aspects of the law. They argue that the law is already benefiting people, particularly provisions that allow young adults to stay on their parents' health insurance until age 26 and added prescription drug benefits to the elderly.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid defended the law in a Senate speech on Tuesday.

"Health reform is complex, but this debate is a simple one: We put patients in control of their health care," Reid said.

"Repeal would put insurance companies back in charge. We can't afford it — not with our wallets, and certainly not with our lives," he added.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41373414/ns/politics-capitol_hill/

"Repeal would put insurance companies back in charge. We can't afford it — not with our wallets, and certainly not with our lives,"


The Pubes don't care about Americans.

Of course the senate won't vote to repeal it.

The Supreme Court will uphold the lower courts ruling and they will have to do it all over again.

Hopefully, this time they might even read it before they vote on it.

Heath care costs are largely based on quality and quantity of care. If I had surgery today, I could probably get a private or semi-private room. If I were in another country, I would be sharing a ward with 20 other people. I am also more likely to see a specialist in the US than in any other country. Add to this the quick access we have to physicians and surgical procedures. It's possible to be diagnosed with a non life-threatening illness in the USA and get the surgery the next week or sooner. In most of the world, you would have to wait months or even years for the same procedure (or go to the USA like foreign leaders and rich people do now). The USA has the highest per capita of MRI, CT scan and other diagnostic tools in the world, which means that diagnosis and treatment are faster and include fewer hassles. If not for the storm outside, I could go get an MRI today. The average wait time in the UK is 7.5 weeks.

Also, it's embarrassing that I have to point this out...IT'S NONE OF YOUR DAMN BUSINESS WHAT SOMEONE ELSE CHOOSES TO PAY FOR THEIR HEALTHCARE.

So basically, you get what you pay for. If I want to pay more on health care for me and my family than you choose to pay for yours, that's not your business and it sure as hell isn't the Government's business.

Charles Schumer is the one who told us we have three branches of government "We have a house, a senate, and the president!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fG0Jpu9geWY

Here are the Dems who believe it before they read it.

The lower courts rulings!
Plural!

2 ruled the law was constitutional
1 ruled only the mandate was unconstitutional
1 ruled the whole thing was unconstitutional because of the mandate.

Several others ruled that there were no grounds to hear the case and dismissed Repub efforts.

I know Fox news makes a big deal out of this one ruling, and the Republican Party is loud about it, but the way I see it there are more court rulings that say it is constitutional!

Even this Judge put a stay on his ruling in his district.
It won't even be heard by the SC before 2014 and until then it's still the law of the land, even in Florida.

Repeal would put insurance companies back in charge. We can't afford it — not with our wallets, and certainly not with our lives"

Don't forget,
The majority of Americans are against repealing the law. They want it strengthened.

It doesn't matter the perception you might get on this site.
This site is not a true representation of Americans.

Fanta

there is information all over on both sides

why and how the law will stand constitutionally

AND

why it wont



BUT either way it goes, whether this is the final call or just the first draft,,,it will happen

To sit around idly and silent expecting everything to come out okay is naive thinking.
Complacency has been the problem in this country for years and is the reason we find ourselves in the position we are today.

You need to speak up at every opportunity you can. If you don't then the only voice heard will be the uninformed and brain washed Republicans.

They will, by default, be assumed as a majority and the laws in Wash will reflect that.

I advise you to speak up and not rely on fate to chose the future of your children.

I always vote. My statement was not one about things 'working out', I was making the statement that it will be embraced by more and more people eventually(its already embraced by me) and it will become a reality ....

Nice Spin.

The michigan case is pending at the 6th circuit court of appeals and will go to the supreme court well before your proposed 2014.

No way does the supreme court let this law go into full effect before ruling.

Has anyone in this forum actually read the Healthcare bill??? all 2400 pages?

I don't see any hands raised! Its difficult to have a conversation for or against it with someone who has not done their homework, and that includes me.

So take home a copy of the new health Care Reform law tonite and read it, I expect a full report in the morning, including pros and cons.

I would guess that with all those pages someone had to stumble onto some decent ideas about how to improve our health care system don't you think? At the same time this is not the Good Book so I am just as sure that there are some bad points as well.

Speaking out is correct action.

Speaking false is not.

Your numbers of people for/people against are skewd...


what is more.... I bet you know it. I do noticed that you stopped 'quoting' which poll you got it from... to easy to check polls for validity or method

and checking reveals the skew immediately.

I have!

Poppycock!


Americans don't want health-care repeal
01/18/2011

It is simply not true that "the American people" want President Obama's health-care reform law repealed. House Republicans should be aware that while conservative activists may support the action they're about to take, surveys indicate that the general public clearly does not.

A new Post poll shows that 50 percent of those surveyed oppose the "Obamacare" law, while 45 percent support it. But these numbers are misleading, since The Post reports that "a quarter of those who oppose the health-care law say the legislation is faulty because it did not go far enough, not because it pushed change too far."

In other words, one-fourth of the law's opponents believe it should have been more ambitious and far-reaching, not less so. These are people who would have liked to see single-payer universal care, or tighter regulation of insurance companies, or less restrictive language on abortion rights -- hardly positions that John Boehner and Eric Cantor would endorse. By counting them among opponents of the law, Republicans are essentially arguing that Michael Moore is on their side.

Subtracting these dyed-in-the-wool progressives from the "anti-" column leaves just 37.5 percent opposed to the health-care law. Putting the Moore crowd in the "pro-" column, where ideologically it belongs, means that 57.5 percent of Americans support what Republicans deride as a "big government takeover of health care."

So the next time somebody tries to tell you how unpopular "Obamacare" is, remember one thing: It isn't.

All the cases are pending appeal!

Even the one in Fla.

There are 6 that were refused by the court to even be heard.
The courts said their was no evidence that the law was unconstitutional, No case.

Poppycock!


Americans don't want health-care repeal
01/18/2011

It is simply not true that "the American people" want President Obama's health-care reform law repealed. House Republicans should be aware that while conservative activists may support the action they're about to take, surveys indicate that the general public clearly does not.

A new Post poll shows that 50 percent of those surveyed oppose the "Obamacare" law, while 45 percent support it. But these numbers are misleading, since The Post reports that "a quarter of those who oppose the health-care law say the legislation is faulty because it did not go far enough, not because it pushed change too far."

In other words, one-fourth of the law's opponents believe it should have been more ambitious and far-reaching, not less so. These are people who would have liked to see single-payer universal care, or tighter regulation of insurance companies, or less restrictive language on abortion rights -- hardly positions that John Boehner and Eric Cantor would endorse. By counting them among opponents of the law, Republicans are essentially arguing that Michael Moore is on their side.

Subtracting these dyed-in-the-wool progressives from the "anti-" column leaves just 37.5 percent opposed to the health-care law. Putting the Moore crowd in the "pro-" column, where ideologically it belongs, means that 57.5 percent of Americans support what Republicans deride as a "big government takeover of health care."

So the next time somebody tries to tell you how unpopular "Obamacare" is, remember one thing: It isn't.



These numbers have remained the same since the final bill was voted on by the Senate.