Topic: Dangerous Progressive Liberal view on Illegal Immigration
willing2's photo
Tue 02/01/11 06:55 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDgfOroVmMk&feature=related

no photo
Tue 02/01/11 07:22 PM
That's really good.

willing2's photo
Tue 02/01/11 08:00 PM
Every forum I have visited I read the same extreme rhetoric as played on the video.

The Extremist Progressive Liberals care not for the health or economic well being of US citizens and Legal Immigrants.

metalwing's photo
Tue 02/01/11 08:06 PM
Very funny and very true.laugh

blackcherryroze's photo
Tue 02/01/11 08:57 PM
I'm just going to leave this here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1T75jBYeCs&feature=related


boredinaz06's photo
Tue 02/01/11 09:04 PM

I'm just going to leave this here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1T75jBYeCs&feature=related




A solution to the farmer mans problems is using minimum security inmates, we use them all the time to clean up roads, highways and medians! Nothing stopping them from picking fruit and veggies.

blackcherryroze's photo
Tue 02/01/11 09:36 PM
I did say I'd just leave that there, but I did some research. There just literally aren't enough prisoners in the U.S. to meet the labor needs. There are approximately 2.5 million farm workers in the U.S. (and knowing how the system works that probably underestimated). There are 2.2 million people in the U.S. behind bars, not all of which are in minimum security prisons. To have these prisoners work on farms would cost a lot of government money, just think of the money in transportation alone, to support a private industry. If you think that these farms would pay prisoners to pick, well, it just hasn't happened. I guess they prefer illegal immigrants for some reason. Roads are government supported, therefore there's a big benefit to having prisoners clean them up rather than using that labor to support an industry they don't have to fund. Not to mention a lot of people would be pretty up in arms about mostly non-violent offenders being forced to do such harsh labor. Lastly, illegal immigrants are going to try to come here anyway. We might as well give them the visas and let them pay taxes.

AndyBgood's photo
Tue 02/01/11 10:10 PM

I did say I'd just leave that there, but I did some research. There just literally aren't enough prisoners in the U.S. to meet the labor needs. There are approximately 2.5 million farm workers in the U.S. (and knowing how the system works that probably underestimated). There are 2.2 million people in the U.S. behind bars, not all of which are in minimum security prisons. To have these prisoners work on farms would cost a lot of government money, just think of the money in transportation alone, to support a private industry. If you think that these farms would pay prisoners to pick, well, it just hasn't happened. I guess they prefer illegal immigrants for some reason. Roads are government supported, therefore there's a big benefit to having prisoners clean them up rather than using that labor to support an industry they don't have to fund. Not to mention a lot of people would be pretty up in arms about mostly non-violent offenders being forced to do such harsh labor. Lastly, illegal immigrants are going to try to come here anyway. We might as well give them the visas and let them pay taxes.


Ah but how many people collect welfare and do nothing? Likewise how many out there complain about there being no work?

I shed no tears for the whining. People have to do jobs they don't like all the time. I have to do jobs I don't like. So what makes anyone else any better? Their rights to free government hand outs? PLEASE!

Yes we need Immigration reform but looking the other way on our laws is not it!

Likewise we need to end the greed and lunacy that drives business out of our country! We are over taxed and misrepresented. There are things a lot of Canadians don't seem to understand about the fundamental differences in our governments. America was built on the principles of free enterprise. Not a social state. A government's job is to regulate but they have gotten far beyond that. Likewise groups like the CIA do things not of the will of the people all the time for the interests of whoever is the shadow government behind the scenes. Why is it the CIA doesn't put the monkey on the other guy's back? hostile government like Iran? Give them a Meth problem! Not us! I am stunned the CIA will do unto our own in the name of protecting our country! There are way too many compartments within our government that have way too much sway over our lives! BATF, FBI, State Department, NSA, CIA, Federal Marshal, and Military all have powers of arrest. That does not count state agencies with arrest powers!

Our government is like a dragon that got way too big and now inhales everything around it to support itself.

blackcherryroze's photo
Tue 02/01/11 11:10 PM
I would never call for looking the other way. I just think everyone would be better off if we were a bit more accommodating. If we let them be here legally, they'll end up paying taxes back to us and do labor the rest of us just don't want to do. Legal citizens are free to work in the fields if they like. I live about ten or fifteen miles from some of these fields. This stuff makes news. They've interviewed field workers that have seen white people try farm work. They never come back for a second day. All I'm proposing is a little reform to make things run smoother with what we have, no other liberal ideas. I live in a little conservative pocket in southern California and I went to school with a lot of immigrants, legal and illegal. Our class president was born in Mexico. Our graduation speaker was Ethiopian (actually born there). Our valedictorian was Mexican as well. I'd be happy to support more legal immigration if that's the result, people bringing their children here and having them work hard and achieve a bright future.

willing2's photo
Wed 02/02/11 08:04 AM
Edited by willing2 on Wed 02/02/11 08:04 AM
There are plenty who are doing it the legal way and still waiting.

Screw that, just give them amnesty crap.

History proves, amnesty just makes for a higher demand of Illegals.

motowndowntown's photo
Wed 02/02/11 08:17 AM
If these "farmers", many of which are large corporations, would pay a decent wage for getting their crops in, plenty of legal Americans would be flocking to do the work.

willing2's photo
Wed 02/02/11 08:27 AM

If these "farmers", many of which are large corporations, would pay a decent wage for getting their crops in, plenty of legal Americans would be flocking to do the work.

And food prices wouldn't even have to increase.

boredinaz06's photo
Wed 02/02/11 08:33 AM


If these "farmers", many of which are large corporations, would pay a decent wage for getting their crops in, plenty of legal Americans would be flocking to do the work.

And food prices wouldn't even have to increase.


They wouldn't have to but they would! gotta make sure the corporate farm share holders get their quarterly bonuses.