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Topic: Doing What's Right
sweetestgirl11 Joined Fri 09/12/08 Posts: 30087	Fri 01/21/11 08:01 PM
funny how most people say they will break rules. of course that's the "right" answer. but place some authority figure in front of them, and bam. they're followers. you're all simple humans. rare is the case when someone won't obey. is there a difference between publically and privately acting against the rules to choose a moral stance? I mean some people may publically obey out of self presrvation

stevemaumee Joined Thu 01/20/11 Posts: 87	Fri 01/21/11 08:05 PM
I have recently broken the rules and or lied in order to keep that last person i had to ever talk to out of a very serious situation.. And im going to do so again to keep this very special person out of trouble. My outcome is i will still possibly never have this very special person that i love with all my heart in my life again, but i will do so out of my enormous amout of love and respect. I will do anything and everything for this beautiful person knowing its the not the full truth. And i dont feel bad breaking the rules or lying in order to keep this person safe from any harm, hurt or danger.

bhernandez Joined Sun 03/21/10 Posts: 14901	Fri 01/21/11 08:06 PM
well privately i suppose you wouldn't have an authority figure sitting in front of you telling you what to do. so going against would be easier. not so easy to do it publicly with someone telling you what to do.

sweetestgirl11 Joined Fri 09/12/08 Posts: 30087	Fri 01/21/11 08:09 PM
I had an interesting question posed to me today, and I 'd like to hear how you would have answered: Are there times when you have to break a rule or violate a policy in order to ethically or morally "do the right thing?" And, would you? Would you break the rules to do what is morally right if confronted with that? Simple, the right thing to do is to follow policy/rules, unless they are conflicting to the law of God, in which case, you would obey the law of God. that is like Ruth's example, in my opinion but in America we separate the state from having an official religion so you can follow your own God in freedom. Don't you think that usually works? And, in Christianity we are called to render unto Cesaer what is Cesaer's

sweetestgirl11 Joined Fri 09/12/08 Posts: 30087	Fri 01/21/11 08:13 PM
Yes, under certain circumstances I'd break the rules if I thought they were morally wrong. It's not your morals or anyone elses. It's what I believe is right. [/quote I would hope in an educated and intelligent society that , yes, we would

sweetestgirl11 Joined Fri 09/12/08 Posts: 30087	Fri 01/21/11 08:16 PM
I have recently broken the rules and or lied in order to keep that last person i had to ever talk to out of a very serious situation.. And im going to do so again to keep this very special person out of trouble. My outcome is i will still possibly never have this very special person that i love with all my heart in my life again, but i will do so out of my enormous amout of love and respect. I will do anything and everything for this beautiful person knowing its the not the full truth. And i dont feel bad breaking the rules or lying in order to keep this person safe from any harm, hurt or danger. goodness such emotional intensity. sounds like things have been difficult for you lately - for my children I would do what you are saying, and I have

Ladylid2012 Joined Sun 07/05/09 Posts: 42269	Fri 01/21/11 08:17 PM
all of these terms are subjective sweetest... right wrong gods word morals freedom they all mean something different to each of us.. all any of us can do is follow our gut, our instinct on how to deal with a situation..if we are even questioning the situation at all then that is enough to let us know something is not settling and resonating with us..so then we make the choice. and as long as were comfortable with it..it matters not what others think, say or do!

sweetestgirl11 Joined Fri 09/12/08 Posts: 30087	Fri 01/21/11 08:18 PM
well privately i suppose you wouldn't have an authority figure sitting in front of you telling you what to do. so going against would be easier. not so easy to do it publicly with someone telling you what to do. right thus timing is everything

Spidercmb Joined Fri 04/27/07 Posts: 13137	Fri 01/21/11 08:18 PM
interesting are you a philospher? No, I'm a computer programmer with too much time on his hands. Yes, how many people say they NEVER lie? I don't know and I hesitate to guess... I never deny being a sinner. One thing I'm very good at is living up to the lowest expectations of me.

TxsSun Joined Wed 05/20/09 Posts: 14582	Fri 01/21/11 08:18 PM
all of these terms are subjective sweetest... right wrong gods word morals freedom they all mean something different to each of us.. all any of us can do is follow our gut, our instinct on how to deal with a situation..if we are even questioning the situation at all then that is enough to let us know something is not settling and resonating with us..so then we make the choice. and as long as were comfortable with it..it matters not what others think, say or do!

sweetestgirl11 Joined Fri 09/12/08 Posts: 30087	Fri 01/21/11 08:24 PM
all of these terms are subjective sweetest... right wrong gods word morals freedom they all mean something different to each of us.. all any of us can do is follow our gut, our instinct on how to deal with a situation..if we are even questioning the situation at all then that is enough to let us know something is not settling and resonating with us..so then we make the choice. and as long as were comfortable with it..it matters not what others think, say or do! yes, the terms are subjective even in our interpretation of them, the constant that i was looking for is whether confronted with (what is to the individual) a moral choice, what that choice would be (irrespective of one's definition of the terms) And, it seems most everyone would. I am prolly closet in line with Totage - I will keep policy & rules unless I am confronted with a pretty unique set of circumstances - so it has to be something pretty big for me to break them...but I have

Spidercmb Joined Fri 04/27/07 Posts: 13137	Fri 01/21/11 08:25 PM
C.S. Lewis addressed the existence of a "Natural Law" that applies to human behavior in Book I of Mere Christianity. It's excellent reading for those who want to hear some very strong arguments for Objective Morality aka "Natural Law" Audio: C.S Lewis - Mere Christianity OR Book: C.S Lewis - Mere Christianity

Cheer_up Joined Tue 11/02/10 Posts: 3269	Fri 01/21/11 08:26 PM
I had an interesting question posed to me today, and I 'd like to hear how you would have answered: Are there times when you have to break a rule or violate a policy in order to ethically or morally "do the right thing?" And, would you? Would you break the rules to do what is morally right if confronted with that? Well first depends who made the rule right? and what the rule is? and if it is a rule a human made that God said not to do then who would you choose right? me it would be God:) now if its a rule that a human made and another human disagrees with the rule cause they know they are right and know the facts but the rule makers just made a rule without thinking then yes i break it as long not hurting no 1 seriously ,now policies can be broken if not made right example if you have a written agreement or contract but you were drunk when you signed it ,you can break that cause they tried to take advantage of you , or say there was a fire and they said don't go in but you only knew exactly where a person was i would break it in try to save them ,and so on:) have a great night all

sweetestgirl11 Joined Fri 09/12/08 Posts: 30087	Fri 01/21/11 08:28 PM
interesting are you a philospher? No, I'm a computer programmer with too much time on his hands. Yes, how many people say they NEVER lie? I don't know and I hesitate to guess... I never deny being a sinner. One thing I'm very good at is living up to the lowest expectations of me. how sweet. my son is a programmer who writes Windows7 phone Aps in his free time - for fun is it sinning to break a rule (not necessarily talking about lying here, but could be) if the rule is morally wrong?

sweetestgirl11 Joined Fri 09/12/08 Posts: 30087	Fri 01/21/11 08:29 PM
C.S. Lewis addressed the existence of a "Natural Law" that applies to human behavior in Book I of Mere Christianity. It's excellent reading for those who want to hear some very strong arguments for Objective Morality aka "Natural Law" Audio: C.S Lewis - Mere Christianity OR Book: C.S Lewis - Mere Christianity thank you as my afore mentioned son & I are both CSLewis fans

sweetestgirl11 Joined Fri 09/12/08 Posts: 30087	Fri 01/21/11 08:31 PM
I had an interesting question posed to me today, and I 'd like to hear how you would have answered: Are there times when you have to break a rule or violate a policy in order to ethically or morally "do the right thing?" And, would you? Would you break the rules to do what is morally right if confronted with that? Well first depends who made the rule right? and what the rule is? and if it is a rule a human made that God said not to do then who would you choose right? me it would be God:) now if its a rule that a human made and another human disagrees with the rule cause they know they are right and know the facts but the rule makers just made a rule without thinking then yes i break it as long not hurting no 1 seriously ,now policies can be broken if not made right example if you have a written agreement or contract but you were drunk when you signed it ,you can break that cause they tried to take advantage of you , or say there was a fire and they said don't go in but you only knew exactly where a person was i would break it in try to save them ,and so on:) have a great night all yup, me too

Spidercmb Joined Fri 04/27/07 Posts: 13137	Fri 01/21/11 08:34 PM
is it sinning to break a rule (not necessarily talking about lying here, but could be) if the rule is morally wrong? Every situation is different, so I can't say. I believe there would be cases where the answer would be yes and some cases where the answer would be no.

Cheer_up Joined Tue 11/02/10 Posts: 3269	Fri 01/21/11 08:35 PM
I had an interesting question posed to me today, and I 'd like to hear how you would have answered: Are there times when you have to break a rule or violate a policy in order to ethically or morally "do the right thing?" And, would you? Would you break the rules to do what is morally right if confronted with that? Well first depends who made the rule right? and what the rule is? and if it is a rule a human made that God said not to do then who would you choose right? me it would be God:) now if its a rule that a human made and another human disagrees with the rule cause they know they are right and know the facts but the rule makers just made a rule without thinking then yes i break it as long not hurting no 1 seriously ,now policies can be broken if not made right example if you have a written agreement or contract but you were drunk when you signed it ,you can break that cause they tried to take advantage of you , or say there was a fire and they said don't go in but you only knew exactly where a person was i would break it in try to save them ,and so on:) have a great night all yup, me too

Spidercmb Joined Fri 04/27/07 Posts: 13137	Fri 01/21/11 08:39 PM
C.S. Lewis addressed the existence of a "Natural Law" that applies to human behavior in Book I of Mere Christianity. It's excellent reading for those who want to hear some very strong arguments for Objective Morality aka "Natural Law" Audio: C.S Lewis - Mere Christianity OR Book: C.S Lewis - Mere Christianity thank you as my afore mentioned son & I are both CSLewis fans Awesome. C.S. Lewis was truly a treasure. I've only ever read Mere Christianity, but the depth of his thinking is breathtaking.

wolfchic Joined Wed 09/26/07 Posts: 8036	Fri 01/21/11 09:44 PM
'the right thing' is subjective...what's right for me may not be right for another and what's right for another may not be right for me i break rules, always have, always will just for the hell of it, rules are meant to be broken... Ditto, could not have said it any better.....All I can say is it will not be the first times rules have been either broken or bent and will not be the last time.... i try to break the rules here..but you send me moderator emails when i do... Me toooooooooooooo!