Although I feel you are being overly defensive Cowboy, I agree to some extent. I avoid him for the crimes against me I am very uncomfortable plus he is still sexually excited by me which would not be a good situation if he tried it now but I do not wish harm on him. I just hope that no other girls have had to suffer at his hands.

How did we get on this anyway?

I am done reminiscing now

Back to the restrictive nature of religion in people's lives, because that is what the OP was really about.

It can be. Has been. Still is. However, we should not always be so quick to conclude that it is the religion.

"In actuality the source of morality isn't really a part of this discussion"


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Dragoness,

There are numerous scriptures which clearly advise against being friends with sinners, eating with them, and things of that nature. Are these the kinds of things that you're referring to?

I mean it causes one to choose between, right? Assuming one takes the verses literally.

Ask and ye shall receive... bible quote... Therefore written by men using tools of man.

Our Father in re god does not apply.

God wrote it not.

Not in the OP

Correct.

AB...

How ya doin' bruddah?

Eloquent concise and accurate response. Excellent.

It does certainly seem like should one hold that those words are true, and that they should follow them, then there must be some sort of conflict. It would alter one's behavior.

One of our new residents who is gay is finding acceptance from some where I work. He is very flamboyant and some can just can't handle it. I was at one of my AA meetings the other day and one of our members told me, "Don't worry you won't catch it and its not contagious." It was pertinent to one of our topics of disease. Of course, in our meetings you can find people from all walks of life. One of the ways we look at 'disease' is through the symptoms that a 'disease' can manifest itself. Some would even say that religion itself is a disease. Depending on which member you would talk to. That is why some are more agreeable to the term 'spirituality' than the term 'religion'. It goes right along with our 'attraction rather than promotion' tradition. Of course, when I first came to meetings everything was against my religion. But then I fit into the 'Some are sicker than others' category at that time. I mean I am still sick and don't want to lose my disease because otherwise at some point in time I might go back to that old stinking thinking that I am just normal as any other person and that just wouldn't do for me at all. I worked long and hard to get my disease and without my disease I would be all alone in this cruel and unforgiving world some refer to as the 'real' world. In the words of Morpheus, "Welcome to the real world."

I am off for a while. Thanks Creative for your participation and for bringing it back to what I was originally trying to say.

Have a good night

I thought that was you. I am still me.
a rose in the wildnerness, wafting forth my still small fragrance though the sands receive not comfort from it.
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Have you ever sat down with him and discussed this action he did upon you? Asked why he did as such? Searched deep inside of him to see exactly what was wrong in hopes that you could possibly bring hope to him and show him of his error?

If not, why not?

That's good, so you do not claim that a person gets their morals from religion, right?

understandable, yet it seems to me that a CHRISTIAN, is following the example of christ who not only BEFRIENDED sinners(of which he states we all are) but laid down his life for them,,,


Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends. John 15:13


I think it is a matter of seperating sin from sinner

loving the person without pretending to love everything or even accept everything they do and say

Guess it depends upon which part you read?

What about when one part conflicts with another?

I was always taught to dig deeper, due to translation issues, similar words are translated similarly although they actually have alternate meanings that are better suited to the context

Can you quote those numerous scriptures?