oh my dear one cowboy...

deeming the self brain, hath and know the only divine truth, make it a GREATER THAN, so NOT EQUAL, by default...

it becomes the default operating system of the brain itself...

for if i say unto you, i speak the TRUTH OF GOD...

and you say, NO YOU DON'T!

then you just then, AT THE MOMENT IN TIME, deemed yourself as GREATER THAN ME, by rejecting MY WORDS, OR BRAIN, AS EQUAL IN TRUE KNOWING AS YOUR OWN...

and then, to top off this grand GREATER THAN, i say, you will go to hell, and be forever damned, if you don't accept the "gift" I, I, I, am OFFERING YOU, WITH "MY WORDS"...

THIS IS IN ALL ESSENCE IN ALL CASES, IS MAKING SELF, "GREATER THAN", OR NOT EQUAL...

as if i say, YOU SHALL GO TO HELL...

YOU WOULD HAVE TO BELIEVE "MY WORDS", TO ACTUALLY CONSIDER YOU AND I, AS EQUAL.

as then speaking EQUAL TRUTH...

so, i say, YOUR GONNA FRY IN HELL, FOR TAKING AND ACCEPTING A "GREATER THAN BELIEF", THAT CREATES A "GREATER THAN MENTLAITY', AND CLAIMMING IT BE ENDORSED BY "GOD" HIMSELF...

if you don't believe me, than you deem YOUR TRUTH, as GREATER THAN MINE, so then SELF AS NOT EQUAL TO ME...

so, somebody has no true sight of what equal, or NO GREATER THAN, actually be.

No it doesn't. You obviously don't know what greater is. Greater isn't the knowledge you hold, can hold, or might think you hold. Someone could sit and read science books 24/7 gaining all the knowledge in the world and it would not make them greater then anyone else. The greatest thing in the world is love. Everything else is almost irrelevant and will decay after time, will be of no substance after a period of time. Even gold deteriorates after a time being. Love holds for ever. And again no one is greater then anyone else, nor are my beliefs, thoughts, or anything greater then yours. Why make it a competition? That's what it boils down to what you're doing, mine is bigger and better then yours.

and i suppose, you cannot see, that in assessing 'what i am doing', as wrong, as not accurate, as not true, you just deemed yourself GREATER THAN...

lol...

for you deemed what "i am saying, doing", as LESS THAN, what you are doing and saying...

DEEMING MINE AS CREATING SOME COMPETITION?

is there some unequal in your brain, that assess COMPETITION AS NOT GOOD?

has to be, to deem me making 'competition' as some BAD THING...

as something 'less than good'...

and, stating your "definition", of "greater than", as GREATER THAN MINE, or more accurate than mine, as more insightful than mine, IS CREATING AGAIN, A "LESSOR THAN"...

for who?

why me, of course...

for it not to be so, YOU WOULD HAVE TO SAY, "THATS TRUE, what you say is true ben", lol...

and this, you are not saying, lol...

do i want you to, or expect you to?

hell no...

lol...

but for you to say, you see nothing as LESS THAN YOURSELF, IS A TOTAL ILLUSION, A DELUSIONAL STATEMENT, AS THE WORDS SHOW SUCH IS NOT SO...

so, there is a huge inconsistency, that self denies exist...

of course, you deem there be no inconsistency...

so, to do this, THERE HAS TO EXIST, UNEQUAL, OR BELIEVING MY WORDS HAVE LESS MEANING THAN YOURS...

again, a I KNOW GREATER THAN WHAT YOU KNOW...

lol...

SELF TRUTH AS GREATER THAN...

SELF THOUGHTS AS GREATER THAN...

SELF KNOWING AS SUPERIOR...

since you don't recognize such things, then i do indeed, deem my truth as superior, or better, or greater than...

take that you LESSOR THAN BEING...

LOL...

Making things a competition allows room for ego and pride. I have no ego nor pride. And no I never said what you are doing is "wrong". Wrong leaves room for personal opinionated belief.

And if you deem your truth as superior so be it. That is your choice, your actions. I just pray you will be able to live with yourself after claiming as such. I want you to sincerely think about it and find the truth without premade thoughts. Clear your mind of what and how you think, and listen to the lord speak to you through out your days.

But this is where it ends with this conversation, for this has swayed from discussion to leaving me nothing but preaching and that is not to be done in the general chat forum. So less you wish to continue on with a less personal discussion so be it.

so, clear my mind?

so, there exist again, a BETTER THAN, in the speaker of these words, to deem the mind of another as somehow NOT CLEAR?

as having LESS THAN GOOD THOUGHTS?

LOL...

that is not personal?

all things are personal, that come forth from a human beings mouth, lol...

who are words from self attributed to, if not the personal self?

lol...

dude, when you deem another is NOT HEARING FROM THE "LORD", SUCH CANNOT BE UTTERTED FROM THE MOUTH, LESS THERE EXIST A NOTION THAT SELF HAS "GREATER THAN" KNOWING OF WHAT BE "OF THE LORD"...

lol...

damn, so many denials of what actually exist...

i say plainly, my truth is GREATER THAN YOURS, SINCE YOU SAY IT IN ALL WORDS AND MENTALITY, UNTO ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING THAT BELIEVES NOT AS YOU...

you deny you do it...

i do not deny i do it.

so, one is based upon false, that says it does not do something, when all the world can hear one does...

so, i declare i see and know more what be REALITY, or true, and not as FALSE, AS YOU DECLARE "ME" TO BE...

for one to not deem another as false, it would have to say "good point", true, so then assimilating into the mind, anothers insight as EQUAL TO SELFS...

but, such principles of adding to the knowing, or intelligence, elude?

what does not do such, denies what is actually happening in themself, so denies reality...

so therefore, delusion resides...

you deem you don't make yourself greater than, by deeming your definitions, your knowing, as more "of god", of truth...

i say, it does, in every essence and at all times in reality.

somebody be less knowing here, because they deny many many things as irrelevant and not as true as self truth.

hum...

if you don't accept my "gift", of my words of divine truth, as written in the book, me speaking them as the true telling of the divine way, and you die, you shall go to hell...

and until you accept my words as true, than you live in SIN...

sorry, i must give you back what you give out...

oh, but don't worry, hell is not so bad...

"Fortunately Christianity an an organized religion has basically died out. All that's really left today are a bunch of "Designer Christians" who can never agree with each other on what the religion even means."

The Christians posting to this blog are great examples of this..
they all know what god is thinking..
the way to heaven (salvation) is:
one writes "do good deads"
another writes "have faith in your heart"
another writes "have faith"
another writes "you need faith and good deeds"

"Man is the only animal that has the true religion--several of them" Mark Twain

his plan from the beginning was to give the worthy immortality for following his word. this involves faith and love. so there were rules set down for a teaching /learning process.its not so much the apple but the obediance

"his plan from the beginning was to give the worthy immortality for following his word. this involves faith and love. so there were rules set down for a teaching /learning process.its not so much the apple but the obediance"

this is exactly the problem..
1)his plan from the beginning....so this gentleman, along with other Christians know his plan, or plans every believer believes what they...want to believe
2)follow his word...the Bible.. old testament..sell kids into slavery, stone and torture people, etc....
3)it involves faith and love....not logic, science etc...
4)obediance.....here we are again, full circle back to fear.. if you don't obey....an eternity burning in hell

If that was "his plan" from the very beginning then he is an extremely inept teacher and communicator, and he himself exhibits extremely poor examples of "Love".

If that is indeed our creator's plan then we were created by a seriously inept God who uses extremely poor examples for teaching love.

Extremely poor examples.

Allowing someone to be nailed to a pole for the purpose creating a central theme for LOVE is extremely poor judgment, IMHO.

I would be highly suspicious of any entity who equates such a disgusting act with love. Especially one who would design this as the focus of a religion that he wants people to worship in his name.

Sorry, no sale here.

Why not? People get rewards and honourable mentions for giving their lives in war to protect the country of which they live in. What's different from a person going to war to protect you and keep your life safe from evil, the attacking country? In comparison to Jesus giving his life for the betterment of the world? And giving salvation to those whom accept this gift? And protecting us from evil, Satan?

What is so different and not honourable about it?

The different and not so honourable about this is that the religion could have been founded any other way. If the Lord said, "I'll give my one and only last rind of orange peel for mankind," it would have done the trick. The Lord is omnipotent. He chose of a billion (actually, if an infinite) number of ways to save mankind the one way of torturing His only begotten Son to death with the most horrible death available to man at those times. (We have new and imporved, more horrible deaths now, but in Jesus' time crucifiction was the state of the art thing.)

So what's dyshonourable about it? The fact that out of all possible ways, this was the absolute worse and most despicable way of doing it.

Okay, it's honourable in War to die for your country and your king. But I haven't seen any war memorials set up yet where a father pushes his own and only begotten son to the line of fire and in order to escape with his life. Making your son die a martyr's death in battle to save the fahter's skin is NOT what the medals are given out to fathers for.

But you forget that our father nor Jesus himself put Jesus on the cross for crucifixion. It was us that put him there, us the human race. So who's dishonourable, our father or the ones that put Jesus on that cross?

LOL!!!

The crucifixion had no profit to the father. It wasn't the father "pushing" his child to this. It was us the human race that pushed Jesus into the crucifixion.

Well Mr. Literal, show me where it literally says what you assume it says...

Christianity has died out Man thats funny!Christianity hasn't died out it's thriving.It has 1.5 billion more people than Islam and Christianity is making huge gains in the Middle east and China.

You might think that some faith group must have grown during the last thirty years, and you’d be right: atheists and nonbelievers more than doubled in the eleven years between 1990 and 2001, from 14 million to 29 million: from 8% of the country to 14%. There are more than twice as many atheists and nonbelievers as there are evangelical Christians.[6] And since it’s hard to believe that all atheists/nonbelievers would be willing to confess that to pollsters, the number is probably much higher. From 2000 to 2005, church attendance fell in all fifty states.[7]

Oh stop the presses!29 million atheists .You only have 2,971,000,000 before you are equal to Christianity.Evangelical Christians are part of Protestantism which has 670 million members.

I will admit that church attendance has been falling quite dramaticly all over the United states and will probably keep dropping.The main reason this is happening is because the churches have become gutless on extremely important issues such as homosexuality,Islam,our Government and other issues.The churches are not telling the Christians what we want to hear and because of that reason we are either finding churches that are telling us what we want to hear or we are not going.

This does not make us any less Christians.You will find Christianity is growing by leaps and bounds despite lower church attendance.I know myself I don't attend church on a regular basis but I listen to the word of God on the radio of my car every day I drive it.

"really important issues"...that's yalls problem, Islam, gays and government are not the "important issues".

Important issues include HEALTH CARE for example but here's yalls position on that.



While 50 Million go W/O HC you guys are stressing over who marries whom...childish! You vote for morons from the T-bag party instead of progressives who want to fix the problems. Yeah keep voting your bizarre "values" and keep phucking this country up.