Jesus was crucified by Roman pagans, how does that reflect on Christians?

The First Crusades were a response to 400 years of Muslim aggression, where is your thread denouncing Islam?

Edit: I think it's funny that atheists always go back 800 years to prove Christianity is a violent religion. How about sticking to the past 100 years? Everybody was pretty violent back then and I hope this doesn't come as a surprise, but civilization has progressed in the past 800 years.

No, actually Jesus was crucified by the Jews, not the Romans. Pilot acquitted Jesus. It was the Jewish Scribes and Pharisees that incited the mob to have Jesus crucified.

Moreover, if we are to accept the crucifixion of Jesus as the 'sacrificial lamb of God', then ultimately it was God who had Jesus crucified. Humans were merely pawns in God's game.



I denounce all Abrahamic religions.



Fortunately Christianity an an organized religion has basically died out. All that's really left today are a bunch of "Designer Christians" who can never agree with each other on what the religion even means.

What would really be nice is to get past the thing altogether and move forward to something more positive.

any religion that teaches a belief makes oneself BETTER than another, creates BIAS, so bigotry, so then distain, which comes to be hate.

a BETTER THAN MENTALITY...

not unto harm, IF IT IS NOT EMBRACED BY THE "HEARER" of the data, as OK, OR GOOD...

oh, but in these days, A BETTER THAN, IS INDEED EMBRACED AS "GOOD", BY MOST ALL RELIGIONS...

humans themself have come to more accept this as ok and good, BECAUSE ALL NATURALLY DO IT...

even a child, first thinks of itself a BETTER THAN...

killers?

even some of these, as our news does show us...

what is the root reason that "islam" comes to be able to want to destroy others so much?

there belief teaches them they are BETTER, because of their "belief"...

what made hitler kill six million jews?

he was able to CREATE IN THE PEOLPE HEARING HIS WORDS, A "BETTER THAN" belief ACCEPTED AS GOOD...

strong enough to make the people AGREE to the annililation of 6 million JEWS AS THE ENEMY...

so, it is far more profitable, if there is some claim that one wishes for PEACE AMOUNG MAN, or that it's belief IS ABOUT PEACE, to focus on what CREATES A "BETTER THAN" mentality in people...

there is NO BELIEF IN THE CHRISTAIN BELIEF, THAT CHRISTAINS ARE TO CREATE PEACE...

quite the contrary...

most of these do not even belief IN PEACE ON EARTH, ONLY IN HEAVEN...

the belief is NOT ABOUT CREATING PEACE AMOUNG MAN...

IT IS ABOUT TEACHING ALL "HOW TO EARN HEAVEN AFTER DEATH"...

so, IT IS NOT A BELIEF THAT PROMOTES PEACE "NOW"...

it creates the OPPOSITE OF PEACE AMOUNG MAN.

it teaches that BORN AGAINERS, ARE "BETTER THAN", the rest...

so much so, they believe GOD only speaks to THEM...

MORE "BETTER THAN"...

for it cannot be missed, that a BETTER THAN, in ALL CASES, AT ALL TIMES, be one factor in common in ALL VIOLENCE, ALL CRIME, ALL HATE, ALL GENOCIDE...

what made white's lynch black people?

BETTER THAN.

what makes hetro's kill, torture, and sodomize gays?

BETTER THAN?

what made white man kill indians?

BETTER THAN?

so, to stare at what a belief professes of itself, as good, does not change the fact, that if a belief teaches BETTER THAN, is it of hate.

what made the CATHOLICS, during the inquisiton, kill 26 million protestants?

BETTER THAN.

as such creates hate.

BREEDS IT WITHIN SOCIETY.

salem witch trails?

BETTER THAN.

how do christains interpret their "book"...

BETTER THAN.

it tells them how other's are LACKING, compared to self, SO CREATES A "BETTER THAN" complex TO THE GREATEST DEGREE.

so much so, that each "negative" assertion in the book, is APPLIED TO "OTHER PEOPLE", and the positives of the book applied to self...

just as is natural for humans to first do...

but, the book as the basis of the belief, increases this BETTER THAN, as after the "BORN AGAIN", is accepted for the SELF, then it APPLIES EVEN LESS ANY NEGATIVE ASSERTION ABOUT ITSELF AS TRUE...

so, an even GREATER "BETTER THAN" mentality...

better than is BIAS, coming to be EXTREME BIAS...

of course, many and many other's not within the "christain" religion speak about this, and distain this, rightfully so, BUT SINCE IT IS A "NEGATIVE ASSERTION" ABOUT THE "CHRISTAIN SELF", and the feedback is from a "none believer", it is autmomatically considered without merit?

so, the christain belief indeed does foster "ANY FEEDBACK EXCEPT FROM A CHRISTAIN", BE WITHOUT MERIT?

A HUGE "BETTER THAN" IN ALL CASES...

A HUGE SUPERIOR COMPLEX...

A HUGE "GOD" COMPLEX...

of course, the belief taken for the self, IS SELF TRUTH IS OF THE DIVINE...

SO, THE BELIEVER OF IT?

speak as thru a DIVINE mentality...

HUGE HUGE HUGE BETTER THAN...

which has no possible conclusion but to prommote extreme BIAS, OR FAVOR TOWARD SELF?

DOES NOT A CHRISTIAN DEFEND THE "CHRISTAIN BELIEF"?

does it defend ALL beliefs as equal?

lol...

already know the answer to that one...

IF A NONE CHRISTAIN DIE, FAR LESS MEANINGFUL THAN IF A CHRISTAIN DIE...

if a muslim is killed, well, they had it coming, they turned down THE ONE TRUE BELIEF OF CHRISTIANITY.

so, if it defend it's belief FIRST AND FOREMOST, THEN IT WILL BE ONLY INCLINED TO DEFENDS "CHRISTAINS", care about "christains"....

other soon come to be expendable...

not that many 'christains' would DO THE KILLING...

but they are more inclined to STAND IDLY BY WHILE IT IS HAPPENING, MOST IF THE ONE BEING KILLED WAS A FAGET, A ISLAMIST, A PAGAN, AND MOST, IF THEY ARE A WITCH, OR A SATANIST...

you think a christain, is going to risk it's own life for a wiccan?

are you nuts...

lol...

so it cannot be missed, CHRISTAINS TOUT THEIR OWN BELIEF ALONE AS THE MOST GOOD, and of PEACE, and actually, it is quite the opposite.

FOR THE ROOT GOAL IS NOT PEACE, BUT THAT THEIR RELIGION BE THE ONLY ONE, AND RULE THE WORLD.

if it was not so, and they scream no way, WE ARE OF PEACE, AND EQUAL, THEN WHY DO THEY ALL TRY TO "CONVERT" ALL other humans to their belief?

just like all beliefs do.

even thought the "process" of conversion, or sale of it, is different with each religion...

but indeed, it is still true...

TOTALLY ABOUT BETTER THAN.

of course, TO THEM, it is the ONLY TRUTH IN THE COSMOS, SO THEN THEY ARE THE ONMLY SPEAKERS OF "ANY TRUTH", SO THEN THE MOST VALUABLE PEOPLE ON EARTH...

again, HUGE BETTER THAN...

those in the self circle of christains are the GOOD PEOPLE...

BETTER THAN.

all religions promote this.

islam defends islam, so then islamists...

kkk defends kkk...

politicians defends politicians of the same circle of friends...

so whats new...

is it just religion?

hell no...

but to say religion does not prommote BIAS, is a denial of any insight into human behaviour and motivation.

IT IS HUGE BETTER THAN.

and BETTER THAN IS A POTENTIAL KILLER...

as BETTER THAN, IS THE CULPRIT OF ALL THINGS OF UNPEACE, OR MALICE, SOON TO TURN TO COMTEMPT, GIVEN THE RIGHT ENVIRONMENTAL CIRCUMSTANCES.

in all cases?

why no...

but to deny it so, to defend one's belief, is sheer denying reality, OR WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS, so lie's...

for indeed, if one does not AGREE with the belief, they are on the LESS THAN LIST...

no different in thought process than a islamist mentally putting a "non islamist" on their LESS THAN LIST, so their soon to be HIT LIST...

will all KILL...

again no, but it does not change the facts of what actually promotes, perpetuates, and propogates a BETTER THAN MENTALITY in society.

Exactly.

Who could possibly believe that they acknowledge God, and believe in HIS WORD, and try to do their very best to obey HIS COMMANDS, and not think that in doing so they are BETTER THAN someone who refuses to acknowledge God, his authority, or his word?

This really is the bottom line.

Christians need to seriously WAKE UP and recognize the TRUTH, that a non-belief in a particular religion or ancient mythology does not and cannot constitute a rejection of a God or a refusal to "obey" his commandments.

That's absurd.

Non-belief, is precisely that. It's non-belief.

The Bible is clearly false because of the very FACT that the men who wrote it did indeed claim that non-belief is a SIN!

That, my friends is impossible!

To not believe in something cannot possibly be a "SIN" of any kind on any level.

That very notion right there is just utterly absurd and does not even merit any consideration at all.

None whatsoever.

The authors of the Bible proved their fallacies themselves by getting GREEDY and trying to force their religion onto even "non-believers" by claiming that God would condemn non-believers.

That my friends is religious bigoted GREED.

They wanted to have POWER over everyone, not just the believers, but the non-believers as well.

These fables are clearly a dubious tactic of men to control the masses.

It couldn't have possibly come from any all-wise God, because an all-wise God would KNOW that disbelief does not equate to rejection!

I'm not trying to "mock" a religion. I'm just pointing out the fact that it can't be true. It's based on lies and obvious fallacies.

It shouldn't take a genius to recognize that non-belief does not equate to rejection.

And surely if our creator has infinite wisdom, he/she/it/or them would know better than to claim that disbelief is a 'sin'.

Only men could have created such a bigoted dogma.

christains are more and more afraid of being persecuted by the government, their "belief" being pegged a "bad" thing of society, as extremism, as potential terrorist, and against the good of mankind...

of course, or why else would they fight tooth and nail against anyone that begin to insinuate it be creating anything less than good for mankind...

why are they so afraid of this, if they have "faith" in their "god"...

because they really don't have faith in "god", just a belief...

and, because the notions believed are not of "god"...

huh?

well, if "god" equates to a ANY notion of "good"...

thats the way it works right?

god = stands for good

devil = stands for bad

if that be so, how can a "better than" belief, so then mentality, be of "god"?

when it can be shown and proven scientifically and historically, and yes, even biblically, to create ALL BAD, OR HATE?

but, if they "deny their belief", they believe they shall be cast into hell...

quite the vortex in human civilization this has to create.

it has to come to a head...

a final showdown....

just as their book declares shall happen...

of course it does, mathematically and scientifically, it has to be so...

because the "better than" has been growing, steadily, slowly, like a baby then growing into an adult, and when "better than" is an adult in society within beliefs...

watch out...

irrational manic paranoid hate against anything that is not like self...

and what is NOT LIKE SELF MOST?

that which is NOT A BELIEVER.

so, where has the "better than" been growing the most?

in BELIEVERS...

just like it "grew" in all days past, IN BELIEVERS...

until it comes to be, that if chaos, and crime, and unsanity come to overrun, someone has to be the CAUSE?

and what are believers doing more each day?

creating the essence that the NONE BELIEVER IS THE CAUSE OF ALL THAT IS "NOT GOOD" on planet earth...

they impune themself from having ANY NEGATIVE EFFECT on the planet, AT ALL!

quite the denial...

A TOTAL BLACKOUT WITHIN RELIGION OF ANY LOOKING INTO SELF AS PART OF THE PROBLEM...

hell, they don't even recognize what can create hate...

they have no insight of it within themself, so of course, no insight in to how what they wish to deny, left alone and ignored, can destroy themself...

and where is this happening most?

in any and all religions and beliefs...

in the kkk, or the baptist, the muslim, the catholic, the mormon....

they are all more extreme...

all more hateful...

all more and more insisting BETTER THAN...

so, of course, they will defend their belief with bitter hatred against what oppose it...

calling the mormons idiots, and the islamist the haters...

creating and pumping more "better than" into society, which is hate that if not reversed, will soon destroy millions, if not billions...

not missed, that "better than", is the very essence of what is supposed to create the battle of armegeddon, the greatest battle of good against evil ever known since the begnning of human civilization...

and somehow the christain can't see that our own government is far smarter than they give them credit for, trying to suppress the "better than" in the middle east, so as to keep us all sake?

hardly, lol...

oil interest?

of course...

but, rather to keep America on the map, so themself on the map, lol...

if America ain't here, their empires crash and toppple too, so it is a self serving motive, posed as caring for the people...

"protection for the people"...

but, in actuallity, our own American tactic's of how to handle "better than" in the middle east, are MAKING "BETTER THAN" LARGER THERE, AND HERE...

creating our own deathtrap...

a catch 22, 44, and 66...

the zeal of the ISLAMIC TERRORIST SHALL ONLY INCREASE...

and who is increasing and fueling it the most?

the American christains the most, since they are indeed the majority, and so the publicans...

anything that cling to A BELIEF, AS MORE IMPORTANT THAN PEOPLE...

and how many is that?

omg...

dare to look...

calculate it?

if one wants ISLAM GONE, that shall make them fight harder!

but the damn christains are the largest supporters of the war...

the fundementalists the most agreesive BETTER THANS...

nothing less than stirring a hornets nest with more hate...

if an angry lion EXISTS, what be the best tactic?

poke and prod it?

make it think it's existence hangs in the balance?

hum...

but we are doing that in all these middle eastern countries...

the "christains" can't see, that in their zeal, to name and declare themself and their belief as the "only good", they had the greaest input factor into creating a huge "better than" mentality in the world...

and so have the largest power to tear it down...

will they?

hell no...

their too busy trying to prove themself BETTER THAN, and procuring a good afterlife for themself...

this better than mentality, that they themself promoted, fostered, perpetrated, propogated, is now the same thing that will crush them, as it shall crush the belief and all belief's, if it is not reversed by some collective majority...

How about them Crusades?


http://www.frontline.org.za/articles/crusades_all_about.htm


A REACTION TO JIHAD
The crusaders were reacting to over four centuries of relentless Islamic Jihad, which had wiped out over 50% of all the Christians in the world and conquered over 60% of all the Christian lands on earth – before the crusades even began. Many of the towns liberated by the crusaders were still over 90% Christian when the crusaders arrived. The Middle East was the birthplace of the Christian Church. It was the Christians who had been conquered and oppressed by the Seljuk Turks. So many of the towns in the Middle East welcomed the crusaders as liberators.

Far from the crusaders being the aggressors, it was the Muslim armies which had spread Islam from Saudi Arabia across the whole of Christian North Africa into Spain and even France within the first century after the death of Muhammad. Muslim armies sacked and slaughtered their way across some of the greatest Christian cities in the world, including Alexandria, Carthage, Antioch and Constantinople. These Muslim invaders destroyed over 3,200 Christian churches just in the first 100 years of Islam.



http://www.cbn.com/spirituallife/onlinediscipleship/understandingislam/IslamHistory0212.aspx

"In 1095, after suffering from the murderous invasions of Muslim conquerors who killed tens of thousands of Christians through four-and-one-half centuries of Muslim imperialist, colonialist conquest, made slaves and eunuchs of Christians for the pleasure of the caliphs, burned down or sacked the holiest churches in Christendom, robbed and killed thousands of Christians on holy pilgrimage, brutally sacked and pillaged Jerusalem, and pillaged the countryside of Israel, western Europe, under the leadership of the Pope, decided to free the people of the Holy Land from their brutal masters and reclaim Christianity's holiest places for free Christian worship."


Although the law differed in different places, the following are examples of colonialist laws to which colonized Christians and Jews were made subject to over the years:


Christians and Jews could not bear arms -- Muslims could;
Christians and Jews could not ride horses -- Muslims could;
Christians and Jews had to get permission to build -- Muslims did not;
Christians and Jews had to pay certain taxes which Muslims did not;
Christians could not proselytize -- Muslims could;
Christians and Jews had to bow to their Muslim masters when they paid their taxes; and
Christians and Jews had to live under the law set forth in the Koran, not under either their own religious or secular law.

http://www.christian-community.org/library/crusades.html

"Christians in the eleventh century were not paranoid fanatics. Muslims really were gunning for them. While Muslims can be peaceful, Islam was born in war and grew the same way. From the time of Mohammed, the means of Muslim expansion was always the sword. Muslim thought divides the world into two spheres, the Abode of Islam and the Abode of War. Christianity--and for that matter any other non-Muslim religion--has no abode. Christians and Jews can be tolerated within a Muslim state under Muslim rule. But, in traditional Islam, Christian and Jewish states must be destroyed and their lands conquered. When Mohammed was waging war against Mecca in the seventh century, Christianity was the dominant religion of power and wealth. As the faith of the Roman Empire, it spanned the entire Mediterranean, including the Middle East, where it was born. The Christian world, therefore, was a prime target for the earliest caliphs, and it would remain so for Muslim leaders for the next thousand years.

"With enormous energy, the warriors of Islam struck out against the Christians shortly after Mohammed's death. They were extremely successful. Palestine, Syria, and Egypt--once the most heavily Christian areas in the world--quickly succumbed. By the eighth century, Muslim armies had conquered all of Christian North Africa and Spain. In the eleventh century, the Seljuk Turks conquered Asia Minor (modern Turkey), which had been Christian since the time of St. Paul. The old Roman Empire, known to modern historians as the Byzantine Empire, was reduced to little more than Greece. In desperation, the emperor in Constantinople sent word to the Christians of Western Europe asking them to aid their brothers and sisters in the East.

Damn, do you know what the definition of a hypocrite is???

While you pretend to be for "ALL IS EQUAL", you try to prop yourself up higher by claiming others are "LESS THAN GOOD"???


BTW, you left me alone in my dreams, where were you?

Dance little demon puppet, DANCE!

For those people who obviously think "proselytize" doesn't apply to themselves....


Definition of PROSELYTIZE
intransitive verb
1: to induce someone to convert to one's faith
2: to recruit someone to join one's party, institution, or cause
transitive verb
: to recruit or convert especially to a new faith, institution, or cause

Examples of PROSELYTIZE
He uses the forums to proselytize for the causes that he supports.


Pay close attention to #2.

No, Jesus was crucified by the Romans. Yes, it was at the insistence of some Jews, but it was the PAGAN Romans who did the deed.

EDIT: Please make sure that you revile pagan religions going forward.

Well, the the Romans will go to Heaven for having done God's work.

For as the fable goes, it was God's will to sacrifice his son to pay for the sins of man. So whoever actually nailed Jesus to the cross was doing the WILL of God.

And it always pleases God when people do HIS WILL.

Not only that, but every Christians who accepts the crucifixion of Jesus in their name is also condoning the crucifixion in their name.

In other words, if you aren't willing to nail Jesus to the cross to pay for you own salvation, then you are rejecting the crucifixion on your behalf.

It's an oxymoronic religion.

The only way to get to God in this religion is to be willing to nail Jesus to the pole yourself. If you refuse, then you are rejecting the very idea that the crucifixion was done to pay for YOUR SINS.

You must CONDONE and rejoice in the crucifixion of Jesus.

Do renounce it or claim that those who nailed Jesus to the pole were the "wrong doers" is to reject the crucifixion on your behalf.

I ask myself a long time ago. If I had been there when the crucifixion was occurring would I have condoned it? Would I have participated in it? Or would I have objected to it?

Well, in all honesty I can only confess that I would have objected to it and tried to prevent it if possible.

Therefore, I clearly DO NOT accept it on my behalf, and never could.

Yet this is precisely what I would need to do to become a Christian.

nope...

sorry, no mercy for you...

i must adhere to the book, lest my master cast me into hell, and i miss the pearly gates, so therefore, i must cast you into hell...

sorry man...

it is with great sadness that i am deeply sorry you are not as great or truth speaking as i...

i have told you the truth of the divine, and you have sperned the mercy and truth of god.

intensify the flames of hell, for the unbelievers...

What kind of Christian were you? What tiny cult of a Christian church teaches that people go to heaven because of good deeds? And how does one spend "nearly 50 years!!!!!" studying Christianity and still not grasp one of the most simple tenets of the faith?

James 2:17

17Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

Faith alone can not save a person, works alone can not save a person. We are to have faith and walk in the faith of the lord.

James was teaching that a good tree bears good fruit, just like Jesus did. In other words, if you really have Jesus in your heart, your works and life will show that. If you are simply claiming to have Jesus in your heart, your faith is dead.

Or are your going to argue that salvation can be achieved through good deeds?

it can never be denied by a sane brain, that ever heard the story of the JESUS, in the "good book", that a "GREATER THAN" mentality was what found the one named "jesus" as guilty, and murdered this one in cold blood, one that but stood for "NO GREATER THAN"...

and what has the self declared christian ideal come to embrace and lift up and purtort as GRAND GOOD?

"a greater than" of ITSELF...

self declared christian << others

believer << unbeliever

of course, totally unequal, so creating unequal status in any society...

oooooh, the coat of GREATER THAN BELIEF FEELS SO GOOD TO THE WEARER OF IT...

so lushious...

such nice fig leaves you have their proud neighbor...

lol...

a menace to any civilized peaceful society, breeding bias GREATER THAN hatred posed as divine truth and divine love.

nothing but extreme self bias and self favor run amock, the worst cases in all written history, that which believed such be endorsed by "god himself".

and divine love supposed to be love willing to lay down it's life for a friend.

but a belief is more important than ANY FRIEND.

any family.

and more important than MOST OF SOCIETY...

since each BELIEVER in GREATER THAN DOCTRINES, can find but a FEW in the ENTIRE WORLD, that believe exactely as their OWN GROUP, WHICH IS GREATER THAN, or the belief would be forsaken...

lol...

there must exist a GREATER THAN IN THE HUMAN, TO STAND OR ENDORSE ANY BELIEF AS GREATER THAN ANOTHER...

so of course, then comes MORE IMPORTANT.

so of course, then comes MORE VALUABLE THAN STATUS.

more valuable than ANY OUTSIDE the BELIEF...

and how many in the world do that?

billions?

important enough to hate with bitter vigor for...

since it "PROCURE FOR SELF", a divine gift, OF ETERNAL AFTERLIFE, and SELF DECLARED IMPORTANCE.

lol...

and this mentality is posed and accepted as "of divine love"...

lol...

only to a fool.

"greater than" is nothing but a demonic joke, that shall incite the "lessor than", to become wiser than the "greater than", and see the EXTREME GREATER THAN and self favor that it actually is.

and then see all the destruction as disunity that is breeds within a society, making ANY PEACE, FOREVER IMPOSSIBLE.

the tables are turning ever so slowly, and "purtorted christianity" can feel it...

the hypocrits of society are running scared...

those that embraced for themself, that any that heeded them not, were bound for hell fires as degenerates, and damned by "god"...

these human mouthpieces are the "damners" in the "name of god"...

for the only thing of peace, and mutual love, and sovereignty OF ALL, is to fight for "no greater than" within a society, standing against any belief, or dogma, or doctrine, that encite and spew a "greater than" mentality as grand good for humankind...

no different than some whites, stood against SELF BIAS "GREATER THAN" against blacks...

no different than some hetro's stand against SELF FAVOR "BETTER THAN" against gays...

no different than some none witches stood against SELF FAVOR GREATER THAN against witches...

no different than some stood against a GREATER THAN mentality in hitlers followers...

of course, anything that oppose such, is deemed to think of itself as "greater than" as well...

well, perhaps there is a true GREATER THAN...

which is to stand for "for no greater than"...

lol...

and a mind numbing paradox to the "believer" in a "greater than belief" it be...

lol...

the self serving cowardly motive of "self but savers"...

the "religious zealots", whom think their belief dictate themself as GREATER OF GOD, shall despise and loath any such "no greater than" with a vengeful passion...

of course, this same mentality that once killed one named "jesus", is now claimed to be THE LEADER OF THE "GREATER THAN" BELIEF AND MOVEMENT...

lol...

please...

only to a fool...

of course, these shall despise with loathing anything that attempt to remove any notion that such is as a "good of humanity", as such is seen as a threat out to "destroy them", since if such malicious notions are ever proven to be "not of any god", leaves them feeling naked and LESS THAN, SINCE THE BELIEF PROVIDED A NICE CLOAK AND PLATFORM TO ESTABLISH THEIR "GREATER THAN"...

MORE SPECIAL, as some self declared speaker of gods only truth, pointing constantly at a book to declare themself "not guilty", and totally ONLY ABOUT the betterment of society...

IMPOSSIBLE.

NO BELIEF THAT LIVES TO ATTAIN "REWARD FOR SELF IN THE AFTERLIFE", can induce more true motive and caring of LIFE NOW FOR ALL.

it steals it if it ever did exist.

such only create a hypocritical caring, that behind closed doors, is raging with menace and bigotry of GREATER THAN...

diobolically against the creation of any true caring in any human, as it induce a DIVIDED MOTIVE, OR ULTERIOR MOTIVE IN ANY THAT SUBSCRIBE TO IT...

if a "good deed" be done, to the poor, or to the sick, then it is but a deed done to allow and afford the OPPORTUNITY TO CONVERT, SELF GREATER THAN BELIEF PROPOGATED, SO GREATER THAN BELIEF CAN RULE THE WORLD.

it should have been obvious, that "no greater than", was the only thing of "god", or of love FOR ALL...

ah, but the goal of GREATER THAN BELIEF, was never at anytime, to create LOVE OF ALL, but rather to ensure SELF WAS LOVED BY GOD, RECIEVED GRAND REWARD FOR ITSELF IN THE AFTERLIFE, AND HELP SELF BE DEEMED AS "GREATER THAN" BY OTHER'S IN SOCIETY.

yes, all humans craved some "greater than" status of others in their lifetime, but some so much so, that they must find something to attribute to themself, as a BELIEF OF GOD, to prove there is "no greater than" themself, at any cost, even at the cost of ALL OF HUMANITY.

but indeed, it was but always but to promote "NO GREATER THAN" for ALL, that was of any true, any just, any fair, any love, any "god" that is supposed to be synonyms with "GOOD".

Salvation is acheived through both. Having the faith alone can not save someone, nor can one "buy" their way into heaven with works.

If you have the faith but never share it with others, what good has come of that? Nothing good, just personal gain eg., having the faith to save yourself.

If you have the works as in being a good person but never the faith your works are in vein and again they are in an attempt to better YOU. Weather that means literally bettering with money and such or just bettering in a sense of how people see you.
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We are to have the faith in the lord, and to show this to the world being a witness with our works. Showing people how great our lord is and what he offers.

cowboy...

qucik, run and cleanse youself, of the GREATER THAN mentality of the beast of hell, least ye be thrown into hells firey pits...

wash yourself in the "blood of jesus", of the "greater than" self bias...

go now, quickly, or you reject the "gift" i am offering you!

and hells flames shall engulf the feet first, then the knees, then the tummy, then the torso...

oh, the vision of itself is just so dreadful...

i can hardly stand it...

oh, but wait, perhaps hell engulfs the brain first?

hum...

from the head down would make more sense, since the head decide the the action of the hands and feet...

OMG!...

it is burning the head first!

destroying the very brain cells from the inside out...

ah...

run...

drop and roll, roll and drop...

quickly, lest ye sperning MY TRUTH, AS GODS SPEAKER, even begins to cinge the hairs of the head now...

oh, such poor disillusioned less knowing poor souls...

what oh what shall i do...

JESUS!!!

COME SAVE ME FROM THESE LESS REVELATED BEINGS!

lol...

There is no "GREATER THAN" mentality. I'm not greater then you, Thomas, MsHarmony, and or anyone else in this world. We all fall short in the glory of God. We all sin. Again i'm no greater then you, nor you me.

Regarding the foolishness of the above quoted post...

Author's foolishness > everyone else's...



Dance little demon puppet, DANCE!