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I feel much better now about things. It is a glorious morning knowing Husseins and the democrats have been stopped, even though the dems still have the Senate they also still have the blue dog dems and a whole bunch of republicans to deal with. Stalemates are going to be so fun, aren't they? lol That really isn't the case. The primary reason the Democrats got their butts kicked was the spending. All spending bills must originate in the House which is now controlled by the Republicans. It will be difficult for the two houses to agree on many things but it will be impossible for the Democrats and Obama to continue the spending spree. it isnt the case? I certainly remember different this last two years of the party of 'no' the bottom line folks, is repubs and DEMS have to AGREE for bills to pass, and that involves something thats been difficult in the bi partisan bs,,,,WORKING TOGETHER read more at http://www.house.gov/house/Tying_it_all.shtml I really dont think a majority of americans understand how government works,,,but thats my opinion Apparently you don't understand that the Democrats held a majority in the house and a super-majority in the senate the past two years. Bills like the health care fiasco were passed totally without the consent of the Republicans. The house now has the power to break bills into smaller pieces so the government can function with needed bills while separating unneeded spending into a a separate bill with a separate vote. and it passes congress before it goes to the President as I said, whatever republicans do or dont do, they will still need to be WORKING WITH the democrats to accomplish it No. That isn't how the system works. All the republicans have to do to stop the unwarranted spending is to NOT originate the spending bill. The origination of spending bills is totally in the power of the House; not the Senate, and not the president. In order to get approval of a spending bill that EVERYBODY wants, it has to go through all three branches. This is nothing like the system of the past two years. and all the dems have to do to stop repubs cutbacks is oppose it in SENATE like I said,, still no win if there is no compromise |
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they say this means obama will be reelected.... The dems still control the senate also...... instead of being negative constantly like so many who post in politics..I'm WILLING TO wait and see how the next two years go before I start to pass judgement smart decision,,,,I think this country is going crazy,,lol, but I will wait it out and see what the mood is in the next presidential election |
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to the people from last night on my back about taxes;
would you rather have a bunchhh of super rich corporations running this entire nation and super high levels of poverty. or would you rather have some super rich corporations and lower poverty. |
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Spidercmb
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Wed 11/03/10 11:06 AM
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to the people from last night on my back about taxes; would you rather have a bunchhh of super rich corporations running this entire nation and super high levels of poverty. or would you rather have some super rich corporations and lower poverty. This is a false dilemma. I would support the Fair Tax. That is to institute a 23% tax on retail goods and eliminate all other federal taxes. Every adult would then receive a small check every month as a rebate for their cost of groceries. This would bring in as much money as the current tax structure and it would even-out the tax burden. The rich (who purchase more and larger retail items) would pay more taxes to make the rich-haters happy. The tax burden on poverty level people would be 0 or very close to it, to make everyone happy. Goods and services would drop in price due to the simple single layer of taxation. The IRS would shrink dramatically in size and power. It is none of my business how rich people or corporations are (except for those I own stock in through my 401k, then I want them to make as much money as possible), because it's their money, NOT MINE. It's not your money either. And it certainly isn't the Government's money. |
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Obama is definately not his normal arrogant and cocky self today!
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i was talking to the people who want a flat tax.
i find that ridiculous. |
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Harry Reid just won in Arizona. No ****? When did he move here from Nevada? That was the compromise Nevada made, we would re-elect him but trade him to Arizona for McCain. 
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i was talking to the people who want a flat tax. i find that ridiculous. How so? The only problem I have with a flat tax is that it doesn't do enough to reduce the size of the IRS and the IRS' intrusions into the lives of the tax payers. |
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Well, we knew for a while they'd gain control of the house and not the senate, yet we've been hearing about all the changes they'll make. So, I'm interested in see what they're going to do to fix the country like they've said they would. I personally don't wanna see Bohner as the SOTH, but anyone's better then Pelosi. They have two years to make progress or they will get fired too. |
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I feel much better now about things. It is a glorious morning knowing Husseins and the democrats have been stopped, even though the dems still have the Senate they also still have the blue dog dems and a whole bunch of republicans to deal with. Gonna' be kinda' tough. The "One" just ran off a few more Trillion of Funny Money. Well, they don't have a large majority in the Senate anymore. It's also a very strong signal to Washington when Obama's own Senate Seat wen't Republican. |
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I feel much better now about things. It is a glorious morning knowing Husseins and the democrats have been stopped, even though the dems still have the Senate they also still have the blue dog dems and a whole bunch of republicans to deal with. Stalemates are going to be so fun, aren't they? lol That really isn't the case. The primary reason the Democrats got their butts kicked was the spending. All spending bills must originate in the House which is now controlled by the Republicans. It will be difficult for the two houses to agree on many things but it will be impossible for the Democrats and Obama to continue the spending spree. it isnt the case? I certainly remember different this last two years of the party of 'no' the bottom line folks, is repubs and DEMS have to AGREE for bills to pass, and that involves something thats been difficult in the bi partisan bs,,,,WORKING TOGETHER read more at http://www.house.gov/house/Tying_it_all.shtml I really dont think a majority of americans understand how government works,,,but thats my opinion Apparently you don't understand that the Democrats held a majority in the house and a super-majority in the senate the past two years. Bills like the health care fiasco were passed totally without the consent of the Republicans. The house now has the power to break bills into smaller pieces so the government can function with needed bills while separating unneeded spending into a a separate bill with a separate vote. and it passes congress before it goes to the President as I said, whatever republicans do or dont do, they will still need to be WORKING WITH the democrats to accomplish it No. That isn't how the system works. All the republicans have to do to stop the unwarranted spending is to NOT originate the spending bill. The origination of spending bills is totally in the power of the House; not the Senate, and not the president. In order to get approval of a spending bill that EVERYBODY wants, it has to go through all three branches. This is nothing like the system of the past two years. and all the dems have to do to stop repubs cutbacks is oppose it in SENATE like I said,, still no win if there is no compromise That isn't the way the system works. The house has no ability to overrule the senate in the approval of certain items such as judges or foreign treaties and the Senate has NO ability to generate funding. The power for generating funding bills lies uniquely in the hands of the house of representatives. The senate doesn't get to vote on a funding bill unless it is generated by the house first. All bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills. |
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Obama is definately not his normal arrogant and cocky self today!
I don't know about that. I just watched the hour long press conference and in no way would he admit that he has headed the nation in the wrong direction. The people just didn't "understand" because the good things he had done weren't helping "fast enough to see". |
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so you find it okay to tax a billionaire and someone making twenty a year the same percentage.
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so you find it okay to tax a billionaire and someone making twenty a year the same percentage. who is going to spend more money, a billionaire or someone making 20? |
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I feel much better now about things. It is a glorious morning knowing Husseins and the democrats have been stopped, even though the dems still have the Senate they also still have the blue dog dems and a whole bunch of republicans to deal with. Stalemates are going to be so fun, aren't they? lol That really isn't the case. The primary reason the Democrats got their butts kicked was the spending. All spending bills must originate in the House which is now controlled by the Republicans. It will be difficult for the two houses to agree on many things but it will be impossible for the Democrats and Obama to continue the spending spree. it isnt the case? I certainly remember different this last two years of the party of 'no' the bottom line folks, is repubs and DEMS have to AGREE for bills to pass, and that involves something thats been difficult in the bi partisan bs,,,,WORKING TOGETHER read more at http://www.house.gov/house/Tying_it_all.shtml I really dont think a majority of americans understand how government works,,,but thats my opinion Apparently you don't understand that the Democrats held a majority in the house and a super-majority in the senate the past two years. Bills like the health care fiasco were passed totally without the consent of the Republicans. The house now has the power to break bills into smaller pieces so the government can function with needed bills while separating unneeded spending into a a separate bill with a separate vote. and it passes congress before it goes to the President as I said, whatever republicans do or dont do, they will still need to be WORKING WITH the democrats to accomplish it No. That isn't how the system works. All the republicans have to do to stop the unwarranted spending is to NOT originate the spending bill. The origination of spending bills is totally in the power of the House; not the Senate, and not the president. In order to get approval of a spending bill that EVERYBODY wants, it has to go through all three branches. This is nothing like the system of the past two years. and all the dems have to do to stop repubs cutbacks is oppose it in SENATE like I said,, still no win if there is no compromise That isn't the way the system works. The house has no ability to overrule the senate in the approval of certain items such as judges or foreign treaties and the Senate has NO ability to generate funding. The power for generating funding bills lies uniquely in the hands of the house of representatives. The senate doesn't get to vote on a funding bill unless it is generated by the house first. All bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills. are you suggesting that if a bill for raising revenue is originated in the hor that the senate doesnt have to still AGREE to the bill for it to pass? |
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Obama is definately not his normal arrogant and cocky self today!
I don't know about that. I just watched the hour long press conference and in no way would he admit that he has headed the nation in the wrong direction. The people just didn't "understand" because the good things he had done weren't helping "fast enough to see". |
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I feel much better now about things. It is a glorious morning knowing Husseins and the democrats have been stopped, even though the dems still have the Senate they also still have the blue dog dems and a whole bunch of republicans to deal with. Stalemates are going to be so fun, aren't they? lol That really isn't the case. The primary reason the Democrats got their butts kicked was the spending. All spending bills must originate in the House which is now controlled by the Republicans. It will be difficult for the two houses to agree on many things but it will be impossible for the Democrats and Obama to continue the spending spree. it isnt the case? I certainly remember different this last two years of the party of 'no' the bottom line folks, is repubs and DEMS have to AGREE for bills to pass, and that involves something thats been difficult in the bi partisan bs,,,,WORKING TOGETHER read more at http://www.house.gov/house/Tying_it_all.shtml I really dont think a majority of americans understand how government works,,,but thats my opinion Apparently you don't understand that the Democrats held a majority in the house and a super-majority in the senate the past two years. Bills like the health care fiasco were passed totally without the consent of the Republicans. The house now has the power to break bills into smaller pieces so the government can function with needed bills while separating unneeded spending into a a separate bill with a separate vote. and it passes congress before it goes to the President as I said, whatever republicans do or dont do, they will still need to be WORKING WITH the democrats to accomplish it No. That isn't how the system works. All the republicans have to do to stop the unwarranted spending is to NOT originate the spending bill. The origination of spending bills is totally in the power of the House; not the Senate, and not the president. In order to get approval of a spending bill that EVERYBODY wants, it has to go through all three branches. This is nothing like the system of the past two years. and all the dems have to do to stop repubs cutbacks is oppose it in SENATE like I said,, still no win if there is no compromise That isn't the way the system works. The house has no ability to overrule the senate in the approval of certain items such as judges or foreign treaties and the Senate has NO ability to generate funding. The power for generating funding bills lies uniquely in the hands of the house of representatives. The senate doesn't get to vote on a funding bill unless it is generated by the house first. All bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills. are you suggesting that if a bill for raising revenue is originated in the hor that the senate doesnt have to still AGREE to the bill for it to pass? This is what I am saying: All bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills. Neither the Senate nor the President can originate funding bills. The House has total control. So nothing (Revenue wise) goes to the Senate or the President that was not originated in the house. This power is one of the greatest "separations of power" of our government. |
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so you find it okay to tax a billionaire and someone making twenty a year the same percentage. No, I don't. Why should someone have to pay a higher percentage, for succeeding in business or industry? Sure, we should help out poverty level people, so that their lives are better. But EVERYONE above poverty would have to help out or it's just robbing the rich of the money they earned to give some of it to the poor, while the guys in the middle take a bit to line their pockets. If you are talking about how the rich can arrange their salaries, so that it appears they aren't making a salary... Well, see that's a problem with an income tax. Rich people can get around them. It's how the system works now and hate to tell you, but it's working as intended. We could fix that loophole by requiring that all companies only compensate their employees with cash (no stock options, etc) or force the companies to list all perks as taxable compensation. |
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I feel much better now about things. It is a glorious morning knowing Husseins and the democrats have been stopped, even though the dems still have the Senate they also still have the blue dog dems and a whole bunch of republicans to deal with. Stalemates are going to be so fun, aren't they? lol That really isn't the case. The primary reason the Democrats got their butts kicked was the spending. All spending bills must originate in the House which is now controlled by the Republicans. It will be difficult for the two houses to agree on many things but it will be impossible for the Democrats and Obama to continue the spending spree. it isnt the case? I certainly remember different this last two years of the party of 'no' the bottom line folks, is repubs and DEMS have to AGREE for bills to pass, and that involves something thats been difficult in the bi partisan bs,,,,WORKING TOGETHER read more at http://www.house.gov/house/Tying_it_all.shtml I really dont think a majority of americans understand how government works,,,but thats my opinion Apparently you don't understand that the Democrats held a majority in the house and a super-majority in the senate the past two years. Bills like the health care fiasco were passed totally without the consent of the Republicans. The house now has the power to break bills into smaller pieces so the government can function with needed bills while separating unneeded spending into a a separate bill with a separate vote. and it passes congress before it goes to the President as I said, whatever republicans do or dont do, they will still need to be WORKING WITH the democrats to accomplish it No. That isn't how the system works. All the republicans have to do to stop the unwarranted spending is to NOT originate the spending bill. The origination of spending bills is totally in the power of the House; not the Senate, and not the president. In order to get approval of a spending bill that EVERYBODY wants, it has to go through all three branches. This is nothing like the system of the past two years. and all the dems have to do to stop repubs cutbacks is oppose it in SENATE like I said,, still no win if there is no compromise That isn't the way the system works. The house has no ability to overrule the senate in the approval of certain items such as judges or foreign treaties and the Senate has NO ability to generate funding. The power for generating funding bills lies uniquely in the hands of the house of representatives. The senate doesn't get to vote on a funding bill unless it is generated by the house first. All bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills. are you suggesting that if a bill for raising revenue is originated in the hor that the senate doesnt have to still AGREE to the bill for it to pass? This is what I am saying: All bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills. Neither the Senate nor the President can originate funding bills. The House has total control. So nothing (Revenue wise) goes to the Senate or the President that was not originated in the house. This power is one of the greatest "separations of power" of our government. and what I am saying, is where it STARTS has little to do with whether the parties have to work together to COMPLETE it |
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who is going to spend more money, a billionaire or someone making 20? your point; |
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