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Topic: The Gift of Heaven ...a gift or a gag
CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 11/01/10 06:22 AM
=========================================== Cowboy 2 states that when if refers to the Holy Ghost ...the term "Holy Ghost" will be capitilized because it's a "being" but in the passage below the term "ghost" was not capitalized which means it's not referring to 'The Holy Ghost" ============================================= That is because the Holy Ghost itself is a separate being. It's a being of it's own. Our souls, spirits, ghosts, they are all synonyms for one another meaning the same thing. and that is why the ghost that Jesus yeilded was not the "Holy Ghost" it was only a regular ghost as the passage below clearly displays..... John 19:30: When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. it states nothing about the ghost being a "Holy Ghost" and the fact that Jesus was willing to yeild his ghost proves that he was suicidal Through all your words twisting this got a little mixed up. So i'll clarify all this one more time Jesus yielded up his GHOST, his spirit, his soul. Jesus sacrificed himself so that you did not have to die, but could have ever lasting life through him. Not suicide, he SACRIFICED. Jesus did not have to come to earth and feel the pain of death. He willingly did so that he may teach us of the new covenant between our father and us, and to feel death so that you did not have to. The Holy Ghost is an entirely different being all in it's own. Yes Jesus' ghost/soul was holy, but it was not the Holy Ghost. Again, the Holy Ghost is an entirely different being.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Mon 11/01/10 07:09 AM
=========================================== Cowboy 2 states that when if refers to the Holy Ghost ...the term "Holy Ghost" will be capitilized because it's a "being" but in the passage below the term "ghost" was not capitalized which means it's not referring to 'The Holy Ghost" ============================================= That is because the Holy Ghost itself is a separate being. It's a being of it's own. Our souls, spirits, ghosts, they are all synonyms for one another meaning the same thing. and that is why the ghost that Jesus yeilded was not the "Holy Ghost" it was only a regular ghost as the passage below clearly displays..... John 19:30: When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. it states nothing about the ghost being a "Holy Ghost" and the fact that Jesus was willing to yeild his ghost proves that he was suicidal Through all your words twisting this got a little mixed up. So i'll clarify all this one more time Jesus yielded up his GHOST, his spirit, his soul. Jesus sacrificed himself so that you did not have to die, but could have ever lasting life through him. Not suicide, he SACRIFICED. Jesus did not have to come to earth and feel the pain of death. He willingly did so that he may teach us of the new covenant between our father and us, and to feel death so that you did not have to. The Holy Ghost is an entirely different being all in it's own. Yes Jesus' ghost/soul was holy, but it was not the Holy Ghost. Again, the Holy Ghost is an entirely different being. wow another contradiction ..you have so many contradictions in your posts that all I have to do is sit back and let you debate with the other two cowboys ...but anyway Cowboy 3 posted: Yes Jesus' ghost/soul was holy, but it was not the Holy Ghost. Cowboy 1 posted: The ghost that is being inferred is the Holy Ghost. so which is it (Cowboy 2) was the ghost Jesus yeild "The Holy Ghost" the Gods of all Ghosts as (Cowboy 1) suggested or was it just Jesus's lower level holy ghost that (Cowboy 3) suggested

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 11/01/10 07:15 AM
=========================================== Cowboy 2 states that when if refers to the Holy Ghost ...the term "Holy Ghost" will be capitilized because it's a "being" but in the passage below the term "ghost" was not capitalized which means it's not referring to 'The Holy Ghost" ============================================= That is because the Holy Ghost itself is a separate being. It's a being of it's own. Our souls, spirits, ghosts, they are all synonyms for one another meaning the same thing. and that is why the ghost that Jesus yeilded was not the "Holy Ghost" it was only a regular ghost as the passage below clearly displays..... John 19:30: When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. it states nothing about the ghost being a "Holy Ghost" and the fact that Jesus was willing to yeild his ghost proves that he was suicidal Through all your words twisting this got a little mixed up. So i'll clarify all this one more time Jesus yielded up his GHOST, his spirit, his soul. Jesus sacrificed himself so that you did not have to die, but could have ever lasting life through him. Not suicide, he SACRIFICED. Jesus did not have to come to earth and feel the pain of death. He willingly did so that he may teach us of the new covenant between our father and us, and to feel death so that you did not have to. The Holy Ghost is an entirely different being all in it's own. Yes Jesus' ghost/soul was holy, but it was not the Holy Ghost. Again, the Holy Ghost is an entirely different being. wow another contradiction ..you have so many contradictions in your posts that all I have to do is sit back and let you debate with the other two cowboys ...but anyway Cowboy 3 posted: Yes Jesus' ghost/soul was holy, but it was not the Holy Ghost. Cowboy 1 posted: The ghost that is being inferred is the Holy Ghost. so which is it (Cowboy 2) was the ghost Jesus yeild "The Holy Ghost" the Gods of all Ghosts as (Cowboy 1) suggested or was it just Jesus's lower level holy ghost that (Cowboy 3) suggested I've already admitted to screwing up and describing it incorrectly with the cowboy 1 statement. Move on funches, that's already been admitted to having failed.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Mon 11/01/10 07:46 AM
=========================================== Cowboy 2 states that when if refers to the Holy Ghost ...the term "Holy Ghost" will be capitilized because it's a "being" but in the passage below the term "ghost" was not capitalized which means it's not referring to 'The Holy Ghost" ============================================= That is because the Holy Ghost itself is a separate being. It's a being of it's own. Our souls, spirits, ghosts, they are all synonyms for one another meaning the same thing. and that is why the ghost that Jesus yeilded was not the "Holy Ghost" it was only a regular ghost as the passage below clearly displays..... John 19:30: When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. it states nothing about the ghost being a "Holy Ghost" and the fact that Jesus was willing to yeild his ghost proves that he was suicidal Through all your words twisting this got a little mixed up. So i'll clarify all this one more time Jesus yielded up his GHOST, his spirit, his soul. Jesus sacrificed himself so that you did not have to die, but could have ever lasting life through him. Not suicide, he SACRIFICED. Jesus did not have to come to earth and feel the pain of death. He willingly did so that he may teach us of the new covenant between our father and us, and to feel death so that you did not have to. The Holy Ghost is an entirely different being all in it's own. Yes Jesus' ghost/soul was holy, but it was not the Holy Ghost. Again, the Holy Ghost is an entirely different being. wow another contradiction ..you have so many contradictions in your posts that all I have to do is sit back and let you debate with the other two cowboys ...but anyway Cowboy 3 posted: Yes Jesus' ghost/soul was holy, but it was not the Holy Ghost. Cowboy 1 posted: The ghost that is being inferred is the Holy Ghost. so which is it (Cowboy 2) was the ghost Jesus yeild "The Holy Ghost" the Gods of all Ghosts as (Cowboy 1) suggested or was it just Jesus's lower level holy ghost that (Cowboy 3) suggested I've already admitted to screwing up and describing it incorrectly with the cowboy 1 statement. Move on funches, that's already been admitted to having failed. (Cowboy 3)it wasn't you that was screwing up it was (Cowboy 1)can't you do anything about him? ...but anyway are we all now in agreement that christians under the jurisdiction of Jesus will be ghosts in Heaven?

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 11/01/10 07:57 AM
=========================================== Cowboy 2 states that when if refers to the Holy Ghost ...the term "Holy Ghost" will be capitilized because it's a "being" but in the passage below the term "ghost" was not capitalized which means it's not referring to 'The Holy Ghost" ============================================= That is because the Holy Ghost itself is a separate being. It's a being of it's own. Our souls, spirits, ghosts, they are all synonyms for one another meaning the same thing. and that is why the ghost that Jesus yeilded was not the "Holy Ghost" it was only a regular ghost as the passage below clearly displays..... John 19:30: When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. it states nothing about the ghost being a "Holy Ghost" and the fact that Jesus was willing to yeild his ghost proves that he was suicidal Through all your words twisting this got a little mixed up. So i'll clarify all this one more time Jesus yielded up his GHOST, his spirit, his soul. Jesus sacrificed himself so that you did not have to die, but could have ever lasting life through him. Not suicide, he SACRIFICED. Jesus did not have to come to earth and feel the pain of death. He willingly did so that he may teach us of the new covenant between our father and us, and to feel death so that you did not have to. The Holy Ghost is an entirely different being all in it's own. Yes Jesus' ghost/soul was holy, but it was not the Holy Ghost. Again, the Holy Ghost is an entirely different being. wow another contradiction ..you have so many contradictions in your posts that all I have to do is sit back and let you debate with the other two cowboys ...but anyway Cowboy 3 posted: Yes Jesus' ghost/soul was holy, but it was not the Holy Ghost. Cowboy 1 posted: The ghost that is being inferred is the Holy Ghost. so which is it (Cowboy 2) was the ghost Jesus yeild "The Holy Ghost" the Gods of all Ghosts as (Cowboy 1) suggested or was it just Jesus's lower level holy ghost that (Cowboy 3) suggested I've already admitted to screwing up and describing it incorrectly with the cowboy 1 statement. Move on funches, that's already been admitted to having failed. (Cowboy 3)it wasn't you that was screwing up it was (Cowboy 1)can't you do anything about him? ...but anyway are we all now in agreement that christians under the jurisdiction of Jesus will be ghosts in Heaven? Holy Ghost is a name for a being. We will not be specifically ghosts for we will be given a new rejuvenated body which i've shown with previous verses.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Mon 11/01/10 08:13 AM
=========================================== Cowboy 2 states that when if refers to the Holy Ghost ...the term "Holy Ghost" will be capitilized because it's a "being" but in the passage below the term "ghost" was not capitalized which means it's not referring to 'The Holy Ghost" ============================================= That is because the Holy Ghost itself is a separate being. It's a being of it's own. Our souls, spirits, ghosts, they are all synonyms for one another meaning the same thing. and that is why the ghost that Jesus yeilded was not the "Holy Ghost" it was only a regular ghost as the passage below clearly displays..... John 19:30: When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. it states nothing about the ghost being a "Holy Ghost" and the fact that Jesus was willing to yeild his ghost proves that he was suicidal Through all your words twisting this got a little mixed up. So i'll clarify all this one more time Jesus yielded up his GHOST, his spirit, his soul. Jesus sacrificed himself so that you did not have to die, but could have ever lasting life through him. Not suicide, he SACRIFICED. Jesus did not have to come to earth and feel the pain of death. He willingly did so that he may teach us of the new covenant between our father and us, and to feel death so that you did not have to. The Holy Ghost is an entirely different being all in it's own. Yes Jesus' ghost/soul was holy, but it was not the Holy Ghost. Again, the Holy Ghost is an entirely different being. wow another contradiction ..you have so many contradictions in your posts that all I have to do is sit back and let you debate with the other two cowboys ...but anyway Cowboy 3 posted: Yes Jesus' ghost/soul was holy, but it was not the Holy Ghost. Cowboy 1 posted: The ghost that is being inferred is the Holy Ghost. so which is it (Cowboy 2) was the ghost Jesus yeild "The Holy Ghost" the Gods of all Ghosts as (Cowboy 1) suggested or was it just Jesus's lower level holy ghost that (Cowboy 3) suggested I've already admitted to screwing up and describing it incorrectly with the cowboy 1 statement. Move on funches, that's already been admitted to having failed. (Cowboy 3)it wasn't you that was screwing up it was (Cowboy 1)can't you do anything about him? ...but anyway are we all now in agreement that christians under the jurisdiction of Jesus will be ghosts in Heaven? Holy Ghost is a name for a being. We will not be specifically ghosts for we will be given a new rejuvenated body which i've shown with previous verses. (Cowboy 3) didn't we already agree that there will be no "Flesh" in Heaven .....which means that those rejuvenated bodies you keep referring to will be that of ghosts

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 11/01/10 10:22 AM
=========================================== Cowboy 2 states that when if refers to the Holy Ghost ...the term "Holy Ghost" will be capitilized because it's a "being" but in the passage below the term "ghost" was not capitalized which means it's not referring to 'The Holy Ghost" ============================================= That is because the Holy Ghost itself is a separate being. It's a being of it's own. Our souls, spirits, ghosts, they are all synonyms for one another meaning the same thing. and that is why the ghost that Jesus yeilded was not the "Holy Ghost" it was only a regular ghost as the passage below clearly displays..... John 19:30: When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. it states nothing about the ghost being a "Holy Ghost" and the fact that Jesus was willing to yeild his ghost proves that he was suicidal Through all your words twisting this got a little mixed up. So i'll clarify all this one more time Jesus yielded up his GHOST, his spirit, his soul. Jesus sacrificed himself so that you did not have to die, but could have ever lasting life through him. Not suicide, he SACRIFICED. Jesus did not have to come to earth and feel the pain of death. He willingly did so that he may teach us of the new covenant between our father and us, and to feel death so that you did not have to. The Holy Ghost is an entirely different being all in it's own. Yes Jesus' ghost/soul was holy, but it was not the Holy Ghost. Again, the Holy Ghost is an entirely different being. wow another contradiction ..you have so many contradictions in your posts that all I have to do is sit back and let you debate with the other two cowboys ...but anyway Cowboy 3 posted: Yes Jesus' ghost/soul was holy, but it was not the Holy Ghost. Cowboy 1 posted: The ghost that is being inferred is the Holy Ghost. so which is it (Cowboy 2) was the ghost Jesus yeild "The Holy Ghost" the Gods of all Ghosts as (Cowboy 1) suggested or was it just Jesus's lower level holy ghost that (Cowboy 3) suggested I've already admitted to screwing up and describing it incorrectly with the cowboy 1 statement. Move on funches, that's already been admitted to having failed. (Cowboy 3)it wasn't you that was screwing up it was (Cowboy 1)can't you do anything about him? ...but anyway are we all now in agreement that christians under the jurisdiction of Jesus will be ghosts in Heaven? Holy Ghost is a name for a being. We will not be specifically ghosts for we will be given a new rejuvenated body which i've shown with previous verses. (Cowboy 3) didn't we already agree that there will be no "Flesh" in Heaven .....which means that those rejuvenated bodies you keep referring to will be that of ghosts The rejuvenated body will be a spiritual body. If you wish to name that a ghost, then so be it.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Mon 11/01/10 03:36 PM
=========================================== Cowboy 2 states that when if refers to the Holy Ghost ...the term "Holy Ghost" will be capitilized because it's a "being" but in the passage below the term "ghost" was not capitalized which means it's not referring to 'The Holy Ghost" ============================================= That is because the Holy Ghost itself is a separate being. It's a being of it's own. Our souls, spirits, ghosts, they are all synonyms for one another meaning the same thing. and that is why the ghost that Jesus yeilded was not the "Holy Ghost" it was only a regular ghost as the passage below clearly displays..... John 19:30: When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. it states nothing about the ghost being a "Holy Ghost" and the fact that Jesus was willing to yeild his ghost proves that he was suicidal Through all your words twisting this got a little mixed up. So i'll clarify all this one more time Jesus yielded up his GHOST, his spirit, his soul. Jesus sacrificed himself so that you did not have to die, but could have ever lasting life through him. Not suicide, he SACRIFICED. Jesus did not have to come to earth and feel the pain of death. He willingly did so that he may teach us of the new covenant between our father and us, and to feel death so that you did not have to. The Holy Ghost is an entirely different being all in it's own. Yes Jesus' ghost/soul was holy, but it was not the Holy Ghost. Again, the Holy Ghost is an entirely different being. wow another contradiction ..you have so many contradictions in your posts that all I have to do is sit back and let you debate with the other two cowboys ...but anyway Cowboy 3 posted: Yes Jesus' ghost/soul was holy, but it was not the Holy Ghost. Cowboy 1 posted: The ghost that is being inferred is the Holy Ghost. so which is it (Cowboy 2) was the ghost Jesus yeild "The Holy Ghost" the Gods of all Ghosts as (Cowboy 1) suggested or was it just Jesus's lower level holy ghost that (Cowboy 3) suggested I've already admitted to screwing up and describing it incorrectly with the cowboy 1 statement. Move on funches, that's already been admitted to having failed. (Cowboy 3)it wasn't you that was screwing up it was (Cowboy 1)can't you do anything about him? ...but anyway are we all now in agreement that christians under the jurisdiction of Jesus will be ghosts in Heaven? Holy Ghost is a name for a being. We will not be specifically ghosts for we will be given a new rejuvenated body which i've shown with previous verses. (Cowboy 3) didn't we already agree that there will be no "Flesh" in Heaven .....which means that those rejuvenated bodies you keep referring to will be that of ghosts The rejuvenated body will be a spiritual body. If you wish to name that a ghost, then so be it. a ghost by any other name is still a ghost ....Casper 3:16

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 11/03/10 07:47 AM
=========================================== Cowboy 2 states that when if refers to the Holy Ghost ...the term "Holy Ghost" will be capitilized because it's a "being" but in the passage below the term "ghost" was not capitalized which means it's not referring to 'The Holy Ghost" ============================================= That is because the Holy Ghost itself is a separate being. It's a being of it's own. Our souls, spirits, ghosts, they are all synonyms for one another meaning the same thing. and that is why the ghost that Jesus yeilded was not the "Holy Ghost" it was only a regular ghost as the passage below clearly displays..... John 19:30: When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. it states nothing about the ghost being a "Holy Ghost" and the fact that Jesus was willing to yeild his ghost proves that he was suicidal Through all your words twisting this got a little mixed up. So i'll clarify all this one more time Jesus yielded up his GHOST, his spirit, his soul. Jesus sacrificed himself so that you did not have to die, but could have ever lasting life through him. Not suicide, he SACRIFICED. Jesus did not have to come to earth and feel the pain of death. He willingly did so that he may teach us of the new covenant between our father and us, and to feel death so that you did not have to. The Holy Ghost is an entirely different being all in it's own. Yes Jesus' ghost/soul was holy, but it was not the Holy Ghost. Again, the Holy Ghost is an entirely different being. wow another contradiction ..you have so many contradictions in your posts that all I have to do is sit back and let you debate with the other two cowboys ...but anyway Cowboy 3 posted: Yes Jesus' ghost/soul was holy, but it was not the Holy Ghost. Cowboy 1 posted: The ghost that is being inferred is the Holy Ghost. so which is it (Cowboy 2) was the ghost Jesus yeild "The Holy Ghost" the Gods of all Ghosts as (Cowboy 1) suggested or was it just Jesus's lower level holy ghost that (Cowboy 3) suggested I've already admitted to screwing up and describing it incorrectly with the cowboy 1 statement. Move on funches, that's already been admitted to having failed. (Cowboy 3)it wasn't you that was screwing up it was (Cowboy 1)can't you do anything about him? ...but anyway are we all now in agreement that christians under the jurisdiction of Jesus will be ghosts in Heaven? Holy Ghost is a name for a being. We will not be specifically ghosts for we will be given a new rejuvenated body which i've shown with previous verses. (Cowboy 3) didn't we already agree that there will be no "Flesh" in Heaven .....which means that those rejuvenated bodies you keep referring to will be that of ghosts The rejuvenated body will be a spiritual body. If you wish to name that a ghost, then so be it. a ghost by any other name is still a ghost ....Casper 3:16 ok now that we know that those believers under the jurisdiction of Jesus Christ will be turned into ghosts which means they probably do not have to eat food and take of drink since they are already dead ...but it makes you wonder about angels since there are indications in the bible that they do eat food are angels therefore more alive than ghosts but now the question becomes is being a ghost in Heaven a gift or a gag and what will a ghost be allowed to do in Heaven according to the rules set forth in the bible FOR EXAMPLE: will ghosts be allowed to have sex ...

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Wed 11/03/10 08:52 AM
=========================================== Cowboy 2 states that when if refers to the Holy Ghost ...the term "Holy Ghost" will be capitilized because it's a "being" but in the passage below the term "ghost" was not capitalized which means it's not referring to 'The Holy Ghost" ============================================= That is because the Holy Ghost itself is a separate being. It's a being of it's own. Our souls, spirits, ghosts, they are all synonyms for one another meaning the same thing. and that is why the ghost that Jesus yeilded was not the "Holy Ghost" it was only a regular ghost as the passage below clearly displays..... John 19:30: When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. it states nothing about the ghost being a "Holy Ghost" and the fact that Jesus was willing to yeild his ghost proves that he was suicidal Through all your words twisting this got a little mixed up. So i'll clarify all this one more time Jesus yielded up his GHOST, his spirit, his soul. Jesus sacrificed himself so that you did not have to die, but could have ever lasting life through him. Not suicide, he SACRIFICED. Jesus did not have to come to earth and feel the pain of death. He willingly did so that he may teach us of the new covenant between our father and us, and to feel death so that you did not have to. The Holy Ghost is an entirely different being all in it's own. Yes Jesus' ghost/soul was holy, but it was not the Holy Ghost. Again, the Holy Ghost is an entirely different being. wow another contradiction ..you have so many contradictions in your posts that all I have to do is sit back and let you debate with the other two cowboys ...but anyway Cowboy 3 posted: Yes Jesus' ghost/soul was holy, but it was not the Holy Ghost. Cowboy 1 posted: The ghost that is being inferred is the Holy Ghost. so which is it (Cowboy 2) was the ghost Jesus yeild "The Holy Ghost" the Gods of all Ghosts as (Cowboy 1) suggested or was it just Jesus's lower level holy ghost that (Cowboy 3) suggested I've already admitted to screwing up and describing it incorrectly with the cowboy 1 statement. Move on funches, that's already been admitted to having failed. (Cowboy 3)it wasn't you that was screwing up it was (Cowboy 1)can't you do anything about him? ...but anyway are we all now in agreement that christians under the jurisdiction of Jesus will be ghosts in Heaven? Holy Ghost is a name for a being. We will not be specifically ghosts for we will be given a new rejuvenated body which i've shown with previous verses. (Cowboy 3) didn't we already agree that there will be no "Flesh" in Heaven .....which means that those rejuvenated bodies you keep referring to will be that of ghosts The rejuvenated body will be a spiritual body. If you wish to name that a ghost, then so be it. a ghost by any other name is still a ghost ....Casper 3:16 ok now that we know that those believers under the jurisdiction of Jesus Christ will be turned into ghosts which means they probably do not have to eat food and take of drink since they are already dead ...but it makes you wonder about angels since there are indications in the bible that they do eat food are angels therefore more alive than ghosts but now the question becomes is being a ghost in Heaven a gift or a gag and what will a ghost be allowed to do in Heaven according to the rules set forth in the bible FOR EXAMPLE: will ghosts be allowed to have sex ... No we will not have sex in heaven. There would be no need for such an action. Sex is for reproduction. In heaven the producing is finished. Sex for any other purpose falls into the category of lust. Desiring/lusting for the physical pleasure of sex. In which is sinful, therefore would not be included in heaven.

Abracadabra Joined Thu 04/12/07 Posts: 17851	Wed 11/03/10 09:26 AM
No we will not have sex in heaven. There would be no need for such an action. Sex is for reproduction. In heaven the producing is finished. Sex for any other purpose falls into the category of lust. Desiring/lusting for the physical pleasure of sex. In which is sinful, therefore would not be included in heaven. So in other words, any form of seeking pleasure would be considered to be lust. So there can be no pleasure in heaven because to indulge in pleasure would be sinful.

Abracadabra Joined Thu 04/12/07 Posts: 17851	Wed 11/03/10 09:42 AM
Cowboy wrote: No we will not have sex in heaven. By the way, can you show us where it actually states this in the Bible? Or is this just more Cowboyainity?

Arcamedees Joined Wed 04/22/09 Posts: 1817	Wed 11/03/10 09:47 AM
=========================================== Cowboy 2 states that when if refers to the Holy Ghost ...the term "Holy Ghost" will be capitilized because it's a "being" but in the passage below the term "ghost" was not capitalized which means it's not referring to 'The Holy Ghost" ============================================= That is because the Holy Ghost itself is a separate being. It's a being of it's own. Our souls, spirits, ghosts, they are all synonyms for one another meaning the same thing. and that is why the ghost that Jesus yeilded was not the "Holy Ghost" it was only a regular ghost as the passage below clearly displays..... John 19:30: When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. it states nothing about the ghost being a "Holy Ghost" and the fact that Jesus was willing to yeild his ghost proves that he was suicidal Through all your words twisting this got a little mixed up. So i'll clarify all this one more time Jesus yielded up his GHOST, his spirit, his soul. Jesus sacrificed himself so that you did not have to die, but could have ever lasting life through him. Not suicide, he SACRIFICED. Jesus did not have to come to earth and feel the pain of death. He willingly did so that he may teach us of the new covenant between our father and us, and to feel death so that you did not have to. The Holy Ghost is an entirely different being all in it's own. Yes Jesus' ghost/soul was holy, but it was not the Holy Ghost. Again, the Holy Ghost is an entirely different being. wow another contradiction ..you have so many contradictions in your posts that all I have to do is sit back and let you debate with the other two cowboys ...but anyway Cowboy 3 posted: Yes Jesus' ghost/soul was holy, but it was not the Holy Ghost. Cowboy 1 posted: The ghost that is being inferred is the Holy Ghost. so which is it (Cowboy 2) was the ghost Jesus yeild "The Holy Ghost" the Gods of all Ghosts as (Cowboy 1) suggested or was it just Jesus's lower level holy ghost that (Cowboy 3) suggested I've already admitted to screwing up and describing it incorrectly with the cowboy 1 statement. Move on funches, that's already been admitted to having failed. (Cowboy 3)it wasn't you that was screwing up it was (Cowboy 1)can't you do anything about him? ...but anyway are we all now in agreement that christians under the jurisdiction of Jesus will be ghosts in Heaven? Holy Ghost is a name for a being. We will not be specifically ghosts for we will be given a new rejuvenated body which i've shown with previous verses. (Cowboy 3) didn't we already agree that there will be no "Flesh" in Heaven .....which means that those rejuvenated bodies you keep referring to will be that of ghosts The rejuvenated body will be a spiritual body. If you wish to name that a ghost, then so be it. a ghost by any other name is still a ghost ....Casper 3:16 ok now that we know that those believers under the jurisdiction of Jesus Christ will be turned into ghosts which means they probably do not have to eat food and take of drink since they are already dead ...but it makes you wonder about angels since there are indications in the bible that they do eat food are angels therefore more alive than ghosts but now the question becomes is being a ghost in Heaven a gift or a gag and what will a ghost be allowed to do in Heaven according to the rules set forth in the bible FOR EXAMPLE: will ghosts be allowed to have sex ... No we will not have sex in heaven. There would be no need for such an action. Sex is for reproduction. In heaven the producing is finished. Sex for any other purpose falls into the category of lust. Desiring/lusting for the physical pleasure of sex. In which is sinful, therefore would not be included in heaven. No sex in Heaven?? Well, I'm sold...on Hell.

Arcamedees Joined Wed 04/22/09 Posts: 1817	Wed 11/03/10 09:53 AM
Cowboy wrote: No we will not have sex in heaven. By the way, can you show us where it actually states this in the Bible? Or is this just more Cowboyainity? Perhaps noone has sex in Heaven because people in Heaven are mindless robots only serving to inflate the ego of a selfish and insecure godthing. Mindless robots, who do nothing but praise and worship God, don't really need sex.

Abracadabra Joined Thu 04/12/07 Posts: 17851	Wed 11/03/10 09:54 AM
No sex in Heaven?? Well, I'm sold...on Hell. Well, don't listen to Cowboy. He just another perverted Paper Pope. What kind of a God would have made the procreation of LIFE a filthy dirty sinful act? Clearly those ancient Hebrews were just perverts and they they put their perverted thoughts into the mythologies they wrote. No truly sane and intelligent human would believe that the act of creating new life could be a filthy sin. That's just absurd. This is just yet more proof why these ancient Hebrew perversions are as far from being 'godly' as they can get. These Christians are just verifying how truly perverted their religion truly is.

Abracadabra Joined Thu 04/12/07 Posts: 17851	Wed 11/03/10 10:04 AM
Cowboy wrote: No we will not have sex in heaven. By the way, can you show us where it actually states this in the Bible? Or is this just more Cowboyainity? Perhaps noone has sex in Heaven because people in Heaven are mindless robots only serving to inflate the ego of a selfish and insecure godthing. Mindless robots, who do nothing but praise and worship God, don't really need sex. Well, in all honesty, the more Cowboy describes his "God" the more I begin to believe in Satan. I'm beginning to think that there truly is a Satan and he's the one who wrote the Bible. He probably saw Jesus preaching LOVE and had him crucified so he could use him as a patsy to get a bunch of people to worship him in Jesus' name. Like you, I wouldn't want to go anywhere near these Christians. I would gladly choose spiritual death over living in eternity with such perverted people. Heaven would be hell, and spiritual death would be heaven. Of course, I personally don't believe that life or God is anywhere near as petty, shallow, and perverted as these Christian demand. So thankfully, the "REAL GOD" is capable of having multiple heavens. God can allow the Christians to go off to their perverted "heaven" where they are not permitted to enjoy any pleasures of any kind and must instead just constantly worship their creator. They seem to be obsessed with doing that anyway, so I guess that will make them happy. In the meantime I'm sure that God has far greater plans for me. I would need to truly LIMIT God in order to become a Christian. Christianity would be a GIANT step backwards for me.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 11/03/10 10:11 AM
No we will not have sex in heaven. There would be no need for such an action. Sex is for reproduction. In heaven the producing is finished. Sex for any other purpose falls into the category of lust. Desiring/lusting for the physical pleasure of sex. In which is sinful, therefore would not be included in heaven. thanks Cowboy...it's rare when a christian admit that sex is only for reproduction and not pleasure ...and this is why God have deem that lust is an abomination ...because you are only supposed to have sex to make children and not for the pleasure of having sex which is why all those christians that have sex for lust will be tossed into the lake of fire so no sex in Heaven ...so far Heaven seem like a Gag instead of a gift ....but not being able to have sex in Heaven seems more like Hell

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 11/03/10 10:14 AM
Cowboy wrote: No we will not have sex in heaven. By the way, can you show us where it actually states this in the Bible? Or is this just more Cowboyainity? I refer to cowboyainity as (Cowboy 1)which takes less time to type

Arcamedees Joined Wed 04/22/09 Posts: 1817	Wed 11/03/10 10:48 AM
No sex in Heaven?? Well, I'm sold...on Hell. Well, don't listen to Cowboy. He just another perverted Paper Pope. What kind of a God would have made the procreation of LIFE a filthy dirty sinful act? Clearly those ancient Hebrews were just perverts and they they put their perverted thoughts into the mythologies they wrote. No truly sane and intelligent human would believe that the act of creating new life could be a filthy sin. That's just absurd. This is just yet more proof why these ancient Hebrew perversions are as far from being 'godly' as they can get. These Christians are just verifying how truly perverted their religion truly is. A famous actress, from the golden age of cinema, was once asked "Is sex dirty?" She said, "Oh honey, only if it's done right."

Arcamedees Joined Wed 04/22/09 Posts: 1817	Wed 11/03/10 10:54 AM
Cowboy wrote: No we will not have sex in heaven. By the way, can you show us where it actually states this in the Bible? Or is this just more Cowboyainity? Perhaps noone has sex in Heaven because people in Heaven are mindless robots only serving to inflate the ego of a selfish and insecure godthing. Mindless robots, who do nothing but praise and worship God, don't really need sex. Well, in all honesty, the more Cowboy describes his "God" the more I begin to believe in Satan. I'm beginning to think that there truly is a Satan and he's the one who wrote the Bible. He probably saw Jesus preaching LOVE and had him crucified so he could use him as a patsy to get a bunch of people to worship him in Jesus' name. Like you, I wouldn't want to go anywhere near these Christians. I would gladly choose spiritual death over living in eternity with such perverted people. Heaven would be hell, and spiritual death would be heaven. Of course, I personally don't believe that life or God is anywhere near as petty, shallow, and perverted as these Christian demand. So thankfully, the "REAL GOD" is capable of having multiple heavens. God can allow the Christians to go off to their perverted "heaven" where they are not permitted to enjoy any pleasures of any kind and must instead just constantly worship their creator. They seem to be obsessed with doing that anyway, so I guess that will make them happy. In the meantime I'm sure that God has far greater plans for me. I would need to truly LIMIT God in order to become a Christian. Christianity would be a GIANT step backwards for me. There's a great story by Harlan Ellison about how Satan was the one who created the Earth and life and people. Then God, being mad(as in crazy) stole it from him and then wrote all the books demonizing Satan so he could keep it. And Satan has been suing God about it ever since.