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Topic: Atheism and Suicide
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Mon 11/01/10 02:22 AM



What does kissing a ring have ANYTHING to do with anything? Sins are and will only forgiven if forgiveness is searched for. If one doesn't seek forgiveness, how may they receive it? And it has to be true heartedly seeking forgiveness. It can't be in vein, cause then how could it have been truly desired? You can't party like crazy doing all kinds of crap Friday and Saturday, then go to church like a saint sunday and ask our father for forgiveness. Especially with a premeditated mind like that. Because if it was premeditated the asking for as such would not be true, you wouldn't truly care if you were forgiven or not or you would not have done as such in the first place.


First, 'kissing the ring' is a metaphor for seeking that 'forgiveness' from the local Holy Man. You basically go there and confess what a crapweasel you've been and that you're soooo soooo sorry and won't do it again (until next time), and :::poof::: you're clean as the driven snow.

As to the premeditation, Jeffrey Dahmer committed premeditated serial murders, yet he was 'saved' before he himself paid in the same currency in prison.

And NONE of this discussed an iota of the effect of these sins/crimes on the victims. Are they just chattel in the Christian God's forgiveness scheme?

-Kerry O.


I need not to nor do i seek forgiveness from some man. The only one i wish to receive forgiveness from for my transgressions is Jesus Christ. Any other MAN, I could care less if they forgave me or not.


Never mind that you completely dodged the point, did it never occur to you that Christ was just a MAN, too? Needed to be to make the legend stick, because a god is immortal. But I guess since contradictions are transparent to you, you probably wouldn't.


-Kerry O.

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Mon 11/01/10 06:25 AM




What does kissing a ring have ANYTHING to do with anything? Sins are and will only forgiven if forgiveness is searched for. If one doesn't seek forgiveness, how may they receive it? And it has to be true heartedly seeking forgiveness. It can't be in vein, cause then how could it have been truly desired? You can't party like crazy doing all kinds of crap Friday and Saturday, then go to church like a saint sunday and ask our father for forgiveness. Especially with a premeditated mind like that. Because if it was premeditated the asking for as such would not be true, you wouldn't truly care if you were forgiven or not or you would not have done as such in the first place.


First, 'kissing the ring' is a metaphor for seeking that 'forgiveness' from the local Holy Man. You basically go there and confess what a crapweasel you've been and that you're soooo soooo sorry and won't do it again (until next time), and :::poof::: you're clean as the driven snow.

As to the premeditation, Jeffrey Dahmer committed premeditated serial murders, yet he was 'saved' before he himself paid in the same currency in prison.

And NONE of this discussed an iota of the effect of these sins/crimes on the victims. Are they just chattel in the Christian God's forgiveness scheme?

-Kerry O.


I need not to nor do i seek forgiveness from some man. The only one i wish to receive forgiveness from for my transgressions is Jesus Christ. Any other MAN, I could care less if they forgave me or not.


Never mind that you completely dodged the point, did it never occur to you that Christ was just a MAN, too? Needed to be to make the legend stick, because a god is immortal. But I guess since contradictions are transparent to you, you probably wouldn't.


-Kerry O.


Jesus was not just a man. He was the only begotten child of God. Jesus came to give us knowledge of heaven and in the end sacrificed himself so that you would not have to feel death. And there are no contradictions lol, this has been shown.

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Mon 11/01/10 06:55 AM
suicide is a cowardly choice that some people take when life is too much but what i say is what doesnt kill u makes u stronger and committing suicide is actually a selfish act that leaves u with no honor for yourself or your family and statistics are horse crap everyone who is unhappy thinks bout suicide once in their life time. any race, any religion , any age it affects everyone.

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Mon 11/01/10 07:11 AM

suicide is a cowardly choice that some people take when life is too much but what i say is what doesnt kill u makes u stronger and committing suicide is actually a selfish act that leaves u with no honor for yourself or your family and statistics are horse crap everyone who is unhappy thinks bout suicide once in their life time. any race, any religion , any age it affects everyone.


Yes suicide is wrong. Suicide would be against one of the 10 commandments. Thou shalt not kill. Suicide would be killing yourself. That is why when Jesus was crucified it was not suicide, for he did not put himself on the cross. We put Jesus on the cross, we crucified Jesus. So therefore it was not suicide for Jesus did not do the action of taking his life.

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