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Topic: Can You As God Kill/Murder A Clone
funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Tue 10/19/10 06:15 AM
if you discovered how to create a human clone with the energy from your mind in your own image and it was alive, can you then play as God and do anything to it that you want FOR EXAMPLE: if the clone disobeyed you by eating a piece of fruit that you told it not to eat and because of that you torture it constantly would that be considered to be good or evil or perhaps a just action.....but first take in consideration that you never taught the clone what disobedience was ....so would such an action considered to be good or evil if you torture the clone or perhaps even kill it so what are some of the other things that would be unethical to do to a human from the womb that was born... but not unethical to do to a human clone that was created

williamm0944 Joined Mon 09/20/10 Posts: 229	Tue 10/19/10 06:38 AM
depends what kind of fruit? lol

Peter_Pan69 Joined Sun 08/23/09 Posts: 2781	Tue 10/19/10 07:00 AM
if you discovered how to create a human clone with the energy from your mind in your own image and it was alive, can you then play as God and do anything to it that you want FOR EXAMPLE: if the clone disobeyed you by eating a piece of fruit that you told it not to eat and because of that you torture it constantly would that be considered to be good or evil or perhaps a just action.....but first take in consideration that you never taught the clone what disobedience was ....so would such an action considered to be good or evil if you torture the clone or perhaps even kill it so what are some of the other things that would be unethical to do to a human from the womb that was born... but not unethical to do to a human clone that was created Apparently you can't even make fun of that clone no matter how silly it was. There will always be some bleeding heart to "protect" it from us "gods", so in short, no.

the_one_for_u Joined Wed 09/29/10 Posts: 521	Tue 10/19/10 07:17 AM
how about this fruit lol yeeeeaaaaaa

the_one_for_u Joined Wed 09/29/10 Posts: 521	Tue 10/19/10 07:24 AM Edited by the_one_for_u on Tue 10/19/10 07:25 AM
or how about this fruit lol y'know i'd eat that fruit and wait to be punished oooooooohhhhh yeeeeaaaaaa

Arcamedees Joined Wed 04/22/09 Posts: 1817	Tue 10/19/10 07:38 AM
if you discovered how to create a human clone with the energy from your mind in your own image and it was alive, can you then play as God and do anything to it that you want FOR EXAMPLE: if the clone disobeyed you by eating a piece of fruit that you told it not to eat and because of that you torture it constantly would that be considered to be good or evil or perhaps a just action.....but first take in consideration that you never taught the clone what disobedience was ....so would such an action considered to be good or evil if you torture the clone or perhaps even kill it so what are some of the other things that would be unethical to do to a human from the womb that was born... but not unethical to do to a human clone that was created a human clone of who? One's self?

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Tue 10/19/10 07:42 AM
depends what kind of fruit? lol for the sake of argument ...let's say that the fruit was from your family jewels

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Tue 10/19/10 07:44 AM
Apparently you can't even make fun of that clone no matter how silly it was. There will always be some bleeding heart to "protect" it from us "gods", so in short, no. Peter_Pan....those "bleeding heart" wouldn't even have to know that you have a clone.....but anyway the thread ask do you yourself feel that you have the right to torture or kill/murder your clone creation since it was you that created it because it disobeyed you.. and if you did commit such acts upon the clone would you consider those acts as being evil or good

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Tue 10/19/10 07:48 AM
how about this fruit lol yeeeeaaaaaa are you sure? ....because isn't that little thing crawling around in that .gif a crab?

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Tue 10/19/10 07:51 AM
if you discovered how to create a human clone with the energy from your mind in your own image and it was alive, can you then play as God and do anything to it that you want FOR EXAMPLE: if the clone disobeyed you by eating a piece of fruit that you told it not to eat and because of that you torture it constantly would that be considered to be good or evil or perhaps a just action.....but first take in consideration that you never taught the clone what disobedience was ....so would such an action considered to be good or evil if you torture the clone or perhaps even kill it so what are some of the other things that would be unethical to do to a human from the womb that was born... but not unethical to do to a human clone that was created a human clone of who? One's self? would it make a difference?

RoamingOrator Joined Fri 07/20/07 Posts: 4943	Tue 10/19/10 07:57 AM
Well, ethically, I'd say it'd be no different than an ant and a magnifying glass.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Tue 10/19/10 08:10 AM
Well, ethically, I'd say it'd be no different than an ant and a magnifying glass. so ethically a person that is not born from a womb but created by cloning would in your opinion have the status of an ant?

RoamingOrator Joined Fri 07/20/07 Posts: 4943	Tue 10/19/10 08:24 AM
Well, ethically, I'd say it'd be no different than an ant and a magnifying glass. so ethically a person that is not born from a womb but created by cloning would in your opinion have the status of an ant? I don't think people born from a womb have much going for them either. Near as I can tell, humans, no matter how they were made, have few if any redeeming qualities. The entire concept of human rights is ridiculous, we are just animals like any other, we are just more devious in our ways of destroying each other. The "soul" or "mind energy," that's just a made up concept devised to make one feel better about their own passing, that there is a life beyond this one. All animals have some form of consciousness, they know they exist. So, by that rational, it is no different to put a magnifying glass over an ant, than it would be your clone or little brother, it's going to hurt or kill all of them. We just like to believe that because we are "human" we have some special right to life that other animals don't. It's a false belief, and the argument is spurious at best. No, it is no different to kill or harvest a "human animal" that it would be a pig or deer, we just like to think there is.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Tue 10/19/10 08:39 AM
Well, ethically, I'd say it'd be no different than an ant and a magnifying glass. so ethically a person that is not born from a womb but created by cloning would in your opinion have the status of an ant? I don't think people born from a womb have much going for them either. Near as I can tell, humans, no matter how they were made, have few if any redeeming qualities. The entire concept of human rights is ridiculous, we are just animals like any other, we are just more devious in our ways of destroying each other. The "soul" or "mind energy," that's just a made up concept devised to make one feel better about their own passing, that there is a life beyond this one. All animals have some form of consciousness, they know they exist. So, by that rational, it is no different to put a magnifying glass over an ant, than it would be your clone or little brother, it's going to hurt or kill all of them. We just like to believe that because we are "human" we have some special right to life that other animals don't. It's a false belief, and the argument is spurious at best. No, it is no different to kill or harvest a "human animal" that it would be a pig or deer, we just like to think there is. the slap of reality.... damn RoamingOrator.......you thread killer

Arcamedees Joined Wed 04/22/09 Posts: 1817	Tue 10/19/10 08:50 AM
if you discovered how to create a human clone with the energy from your mind in your own image and it was alive, can you then play as God and do anything to it that you want FOR EXAMPLE: if the clone disobeyed you by eating a piece of fruit that you told it not to eat and because of that you torture it constantly would that be considered to be good or evil or perhaps a just action.....but first take in consideration that you never taught the clone what disobedience was ....so would such an action considered to be good or evil if you torture the clone or perhaps even kill it so what are some of the other things that would be unethical to do to a human from the womb that was born... but not unethical to do to a human clone that was created a human clone of who? One's self? would it make a difference? Not really. I was just going to make a joke about sex w/ one's clone, tie it into God boffing Mary with poor Joseph thinking to himself "How am I supposed to compete w/ God's almighty penis?" But you didn't give me the right straight line...oh well..

Arcamedees Joined Wed 04/22/09 Posts: 1817	Tue 10/19/10 08:54 AM
Well, ethically, I'd say it'd be no different than an ant and a magnifying glass. so ethically a person that is not born from a womb but created by cloning would in your opinion have the status of an ant? I don't think people born from a womb have much going for them either. Near as I can tell, humans, no matter how they were made, have few if any redeeming qualities. The entire concept of human rights is ridiculous, we are just animals like any other, we are just more devious in our ways of destroying each other. The "soul" or "mind energy," that's just a made up concept devised to make one feel better about their own passing, that there is a life beyond this one. All animals have some form of consciousness, they know they exist. So, by that rational, it is no different to put a magnifying glass over an ant, than it would be your clone or little brother, it's going to hurt or kill all of them. We just like to believe that because we are "human" we have some special right to life that other animals don't. It's a false belief, and the argument is spurious at best. No, it is no different to kill or harvest a "human animal" that it would be a pig or deer, we just like to think there is. says the sociopath... I'm thinking self-awareness and intelligence puts humans up a notch from animals...most of the time...

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Tue 10/19/10 08:56 AM
if you discovered how to create a human clone with the energy from your mind in your own image and it was alive, can you then play as God and do anything to it that you want FOR EXAMPLE: if the clone disobeyed you by eating a piece of fruit that you told it not to eat and because of that you torture it constantly would that be considered to be good or evil or perhaps a just action.....but first take in consideration that you never taught the clone what disobedience was ....so would such an action considered to be good or evil if you torture the clone or perhaps even kill it so what are some of the other things that would be unethical to do to a human from the womb that was born... but not unethical to do to a human clone that was created a human clone of who? One's self? would it make a difference? Not really. I was just going to make a joke about sex w/ one's clone, tie it into God boffing Mary with poor Joseph thinking to himself "How am I supposed to compete w/ God's almighty penis?" But you didn't give me the right straight line...oh well.. if you created the clone from your mind you would be the Father ....which is why when God had sex with Mary he was committing incest

RoamingOrator Joined Fri 07/20/07 Posts: 4943	Tue 10/19/10 11:19 AM
Sorry man, hope I don't totally execute your thread. I just felt it necessary to point out that humans haven't exactly "evolved" past their basic animal instincts, we've just "adapted" how we exercise those instincts so that we appear "civilized."

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Tue 10/19/10 11:26 AM
Sorry man, hope I don't totally execute your thread. I just felt it necessary to point out that humans haven't exactly "evolved" past their basic animal instincts, we've just "adapted" how we exercise those instincts so that we appear "civilized." to stay on topic and execute a thread is one of the things debating is all about..it forces you to think

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Tue 10/19/10 11:26 AM
if you discovered how to create a human clone with the energy from your mind in your own image and it was alive, can you then play as God and do anything to it that you want FOR EXAMPLE: if the clone disobeyed you by eating a piece of fruit that you told it not to eat and because of that you torture it constantly would that be considered to be good or evil or perhaps a just action.....but first take in consideration that you never taught the clone what disobedience was ....so would such an action considered to be good or evil if you torture the clone or perhaps even kill it so what are some of the other things that would be unethical to do to a human from the womb that was born... but not unethical to do to a human clone that was created Well for one God kills, murders no one. It is us that kill ourselves in a sense. Does the judge get the death penalty for making a judgement of execution? No, for all he did was judge the person's actions, the person that made the actions is the one that killed/murdered themselves in a cause and effect form of way.