Cowboy..to kill/murder oneself is called suicide ...when someone else does it it's called homicide

when God kills/murder he commits homicide not suicide

I can see why you do not believe in the bible. You like taking something someone said and taking it out of context. I said specifically the only reward for sin is death, thus by sinning one is killing/murdering themselves. It is not the judge's fault that you committed such actions, thus they are not to blame for the verdict.

Cowboy you got busted spreading false testimony so it is perhaps you that do not believe in the bible...in case no one told you...you don't have to believe in something in order to debate it

but anyway the fact is that your physical body has to go through death to be with God in Heaven ...and that is what Love is to God...what he has your physical body endure before death in the form of torture/kill/murder/death ...this is the way to God

I got busted at nothing nor did you prove anything. AGAIN, death referring to our physical bodies passing away is a secular term. Secular... not believing in any form of God. When our bodies pass away on earth that is NOT dying.

Cowboy...didn't you lie and claim that no babies drown in the great flood because God placed them all on Noah's Ark ....

That is irrelevant to the discussion being discussed. The only response i will give to that is that i said no babies DIED in the flood.

Can we please remain on the topic rather then jumping to a previously discussed subject? I see you do this when you have no response to defend yourself with what is being said. You do this to direct the discussion in another direction in hopes no one will notice you had no response and it keeps the discussion alive and does not reveal the actual discussion has come to an end for you had no response to make it continue.

Reason i said this is cause yes i did say it's possible babies drown in the flood. But i never said they "died".

it was you that change the topic when you make the comment that I didn't believe in the bible....and how can you claim to believe in the bible if you go around lying about what's in it ....it doesn't matter whether you believe those babies in the great flood died or not...what matters is that you lied and claim that they didn't die because God placed them on Noah's Ark

what kind of believer goes around lying about what is written in the bible ...surely not a righteous one....perhaps one that's in league with SATAN? ...

i don't lie about what is in it. The bible tells us that the only reward for sin is death. These babies could not have sinned, for they know not the law and never had the chance to learn the law. Thus they had not reached the age of accountability, we will be judged on our actions. Actions are made from decisions and since babies do not have the mentality to make decisions they are not accountable. And since they are not accountable there is nothing to be forgiven for. And if their is nothing to be forgiven for they are pure, if they are pure they will enter into the kingdom of God.

Cowboy...you said that all the babies were all on Noah's Ark....that a lie...which makes you a liar and guilty of giving false testimony ...accept it

Yes i do accept it. I was mistaken on such the subject and corrected myself after the fault had been shown. I have already admitted to this previously and explained that i was mistaken. We have already moved past this... I thought. But not a liar, for i was only mistaken. And once shown differently i did not carry on trying to debate my belief. I conceded and learned. So, why exactly did you mention this?

try actually reading the bible and you won't have to tells lies about what's in it...either way it still means that you were giving false testimony ...you were lying about the word of God

And once you've had God, you never go back....

Why make discussions personal funches? Why direct blame towards people? I admitted to having said something in the wrong way and corrected myself. We are human and make mistakes, thus i corrected myself correcting the mistake. Then that would denounce having mistakenly lied about this. I didn't carry on with it and try to spread lies. I looked at it again and apologized for my failures and corrected them. Now can we please get back onto the subject of this thread?

we were on the subject..you claim that you didn't give false testimony about what's in the bible and I pointed out when you did ....isn't that how things are supposed to work in a debate ....or do I remain silent and not make reference to it?

poor joseph, he can never tomb that womb again...but it does bring up an interesting question..wouldn't this make Jesus a product of the seventh commandment and born of sin

You were making it person by stating that I was lying. I was not lying. Once you had shown differently I apologized and moved on. If i was lying, i would have continued on trying to support of which i was saying. But i didn't, i conceded my remarks on that. This is a tactic in discussions you seem to use. You state things that can be taken offensively eg., you blatantly stating i was lying. That of which i would get offended and just spurt something back to insult you as well. But I didn't, I conceded in hopes to move on so that we could return to the discussion that was being made in this thread and not getting side tracked into other discussion that is irrelevant to this thread such as we are now.

So if you wish for more discussion from me on this thread, we will return to the topic of the thread.

Cowboy..you are the one that claim that you are a christian and were here in Mingles2 to preach the word .....to preach the word you must first know the word

so how can a christian that know the word makes claims that no babies drown in the great flood because they were all on Noah's Ark and then try to claim when they said it they made a mistake

that was no mistake you choose to lie in order to make the claim that God don't kill innocent newborn babies...the great flood only proves that God is pro-abortion and anti post-birth

you simply got busted telling a lie and spreading false testimony ...and it took a non-believer to place you on the right path ....so now don't start crying crocodile tears ...accept the enlightenment

Yes, so they didn't have to go through the pain and agony of life? What's your point? Who wouldn't want to just go through the pain of drowning for a few minutes to receive the gift of heaven and live for eternity? Where's the evil action there? What negative result do we have from it?

Yes and again, after I seen my mistake. I apologized, corrected my mistake and thought we had moved on.