http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/17/AR2010101703364.html?wpisrc=nl_pmheadline

I think I posted something about N. Korea being under China's power and the possibilities of N. Korea causing issues to turn the slleping giants head at some point on one of these threads..........

The origins of ST6 can be traced to the aftermath of Operation Eagle Claw, the failed 1980 attempt to rescue American hostages at the U.S. Embassy in Iran. During the Iran Hostage Crisis in 1979, Richard Marcinko was one of two Navy representatives for a Joint Chiefs of Staff task force known as the TAT (Terrorist Action Team). The purpose of the TAT was to develop a plan to free the American hostages held in Iran which culminated in Operation Eagle Claw. In the wake of the operation's disaster at Desert One, the Navy saw the need for a full-time dedicated Counter-Terrorist Team and tasked Marcinko with its design and development.

Marcinko was the first commanding officer of this new unit which he named SEAL Team Six (at the time, the US Navy had only two SEAL teams. Marcinko purportedly named the unit Team Six in order to confuse the Soviet intelligence as to the number of SEAL Teams in operation). It became officially operational in 1981.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEAL_Team_6

Not much more is known about them other then they were created because Carter got caught with his pants down by the Iranians and they assisted with the assassination of Pablo Escobar and helped capture war criminals in Bosnia and were the first on the groud with the Army's Delta Force in Afganistan and Iraq.

Spot on.

Seriously? You buy that babble? If Iran get's the bomb all hell will break loose. They are already forming an Axis with Syria and other countries that hate the Allied Nations.

There is actually a pretty good chance that they already have at least one bomb. They got the bomb building tech from Pakistan so all that remains is the time to turn enough yellow cake into weapons grade uranium. They would not announce that they had made "one". They would continue to drag out the discussion til they had several. We do not have exact knowledge of their enrichment process ... or the exact size of it. This is what the inspections are all about and why they don't want them to happen.

If you look at the time line, there has been plenty of time to make at least one bomb. Bombs can be made in any size.

I'm sure N. Korea has been helping them to since there have been massive weapons shipments intercepted from N. Korea on the way to Iran.

I guarantee once it is found they do have a bomb we can start the clock on how long it will be before Israel launches a Nuclear strike.

That is probably the main reason Iran is still claiming that they do not have it yet and are not making one even though we know the enrichment process they are using is pretty much designed for bomb making.

If they make several, and spread them around the country on demonstrated midrange rocket warheads, it would make an attacker think twice if they were within range, like Israel.

Israel knows perfectly well how to make bombs in secret and how long it takes. I think they may reach a moment where they decide "enough is enough" and BOOOM!

They were at that point right before the Nuclear Plant went live recently until our Coward in Chief pressured them not to do squat.

I suspect the Israelis agreed to delay action but left it with a "either you do something to stop it or we will".

Well, they better do it sooner rather then later.

Wow

Muslims are people that follow a different way of life.

But bottom line...

Humans.

With wives (and husbands) and children.
With hopes and dreams like you and me.

Also with people that have extreme views... Just like here.

To wipe out a seqment of humanity because of a few extremes is a bit extreme in itself.

Would you destroy humanity because cain slew able?

Just think how much better the earth plants and animals would have been without humanity to destroy it.........tricky question you ask there isnt it?

WORLD WANNABEE DICTATOR'S, can never create peace or no war for all, for their very motive is tainted with the delusion itself be superior, with such not having to be proven by other's, but only to itself.

the narcissistic mentality that create's dictator's out of all, coming to mesmorize the collective brains of the world.

if iran wants nuclear potential, than why are we so afraid, for they are but human as ourself, and we as AMERICA have them?

how can one man tell another not to have, what itself embrace for itself?

we should be helping them build their own, for do we think they will point them at what helped them to build it?

then, we, as all countries, point them at each other, and say, NOW WHAT, WE ALL ACHIEVED EQUAL POWER, AND CAN ELIMINATE EACH OTHER?

STALEMATE!

since no PERSON IN POWER WANTS TO DIE, JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER MORTAL.

then, after stalemate, of ALL AS EQUAL POWER, we could come to sane reasoning, and stop trying to PROVE WHOM BE MOST FIT TO RULE THE WORLD AS A DICTATOR.

those that demand the killing of other mortal's, without one consideration of the effect upon all as one, using not global peace as the guide, which be global equal for all, most in a global world, are always consumed and hung by thier own noose, when their own demands of treatment for other's, are turnd upon themself, by the dictator mentality they embraced in their own leadership in their own power system.

Because America would and will never use them in pure hatred like the extremist Iranian regime would.

really?

how is that any PROOF?

one's OWN WORST CRITIQUE, MUST BE THE ONE TO WIN OVER, TO AGREE TO SELF INTELLECT, OR ANY SELF ABILITY, OR OF A GRAND GOOD JOB OF SELF, OR TO A GRAND "CHARACTER" IN SELF, OR A GRAND PERSONALITY IN SELF, OR A SUPERIOR SUCCESS IN ANY VENTURE THAT SELF ENDEAVOR IN, AND AS WELL, IN ANY COUNTRY DEEMED AS "BETTER"?

if we were at one time better, than it was only because we were open to "critique", TO GET BETTER?

YOUR STATEMENT ITSELF, SHOW'S NO WILL OR MOTIVE TO EVEN CARE ABOUT INTEGRITY, WHICH IS TO HAVE TO PROVE HOE SELF BE BETTER, WITH EVIDENCE SUPPORTED BY ALL?

perhaps it is but you welcome yourself as better, with no proof needed by any outside source, so do not wish for anybody else as well, to need any proof of their own merit, or status as BETTER, OR NOT GUILTY OF BIAS, OR RACISM, OR THE MOTIVE TO LOWER OTHER'S, FOR SAKE OF SELF INTEREST ALONE?

your statement AMERICA WOULD NEVER DO THIS, is but a statement?

why not?

how so?

have we ever done it before?

how can it be said, NO SUCH POTENIAL EXIST, for the very notion of beleiving such create the very FIRST POTENTIAL FOR JUST THAT TO BE CREATED?

such statement is based upon A GRANTED SELF SUPERIOR MENTALITY, WITH FULL IMMUNITY TO ANY FLAW, OR CRITIQUE AS EVEN REAL?

SO CRITIQUE KEEP SUCH FROM OCCURING IN AMERICA, AND HOW COULD THAT BE SO, IF ALL FIRST BELIEVED NO SUCH POTENIAL EXISTED TO START WITH?

that is no logic at all?

sheer uptopian belief, IN ONESELF, AND ALL THAT THINK AS SELF, with no room for ANY FAULT?

THAT IS THE MENTALITY OF THE "TYRANNICAL" that we are supposed to BOMB?

and we are immune ourself in AMERICA?

only if we embrace critique?

where oh where do you hear critique welcomed in the world at large?

is this not the only true sign of what be better?

IS THERE ANYTHING THAT EXIST WITH SOME CART BLANCHE "BETTER IN ALL CASES" THAT APPLY IN ANY TRUE REALITY?

do not ship builder's HAVE TO CONVINCE THE CRITIQUE, THAT THEIR SHIP IS BETTER, FOR IT TO BE SO?

the ruthless dictator way, THE IGNORANT WAY, IS TO DEMAND SELF'S SHIPS ARE ALWAYS BETTER?

and despise any SUGGESTION THAT THEY MAY NOT BE?

so, would be dictator's, THINK AS THIS, AND, are the one's that commit genocide?

it be no different WITH ANY COUNTRY RIGHT, AS ALL ARE HUMAN'S?

does not the collage grad have to convince the potential employer, the CRITIQUE, of IT'S VALUE?

so then the same apply with America convincing other nation's to FOLLOW US?

so the would be wannabee destroyer's as dictator's of other human lives, simply collect any other person, WHO THINKS OF THEMSELF AS SUPERIOR, that wants to destroy other's as less than themself, AND WA LAH, the kkk, the skinheads, the church with RELIGION'S, the acedemia, the military, govenrment, the gays that want to erase all hetro's as less, and on and on and on, IF THEY USE SUCH MENTALITY?

how can only what be blind not see such mentality has already taken hold and effect the common thiking process to a grand large degree, and already be believed as good belief, in the mass collective of even the world at large?

NO ONE ENTITY OF PEOPLE IS IMMUNE FROM BIGOTRY, THAT KILLS, LESS IT CAN SPOT IT IN ITSELF, and has enough caring about other's to NOT VALIDATE IT.

it it extreme self validation, AT ALL COST, believing in essence that somehow self is perfect in all it's own ways, that creates the very first supreior mentality, then dictator mentality, HEARING NOTHING BUT IT'S OWN BRAIN, AND WHAT TI CAN FIND THAT MATCH ITSELF, THAT BELIEVE BLINDLY THE NOTION OF WAR OR ANNILILATION OF OTHER'S, be the way of most good.

hitler mentality in full display, and already validated as good.

any governing body is capable of bias, as bias be in all human's, and America not falling prey to it would only ever be if the people's themself did not validate or endorse it themselves.

for anything with any intelligence know's, the more power, the more tendency to ABUSE IT, and TO USE IT UNFAIRLY, to destroy other HUMANS whom raise any complaint, as of course, the overwhelming inclination is to tend to see such as a threaten of self standing and power.

why was it called the "chains of the constitution?

BECAUSE OUR COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED ON THE ROOT PREMISE OF CRITIQUE OF LEADERSHIP, the very congress and senate and electoral set up to NOT give carte blanc TO ANYTHING!

APPROVAL BY THE CRITIQUE!

for anything to have or be deemed with merit?

THE VERY NOTION OF ALL DEMOCRACY IS TO HEAR CRITIQUE OF ALL AS HAVING MERIT?

THE VERY NOTION OF FREEDOM IS TO HEAR ALL CRITQUE AS HAVING MERIT, or there soon exist no freedom?

why the **** do you think the founding father's INSISTED THAT FREE SPEECH BE A "RIGHT OF ALL".

to even first declare, that AMERICA, or its leaders, or it's peoples, are not CAPABLE OF ANY FOUL MOTIVE, WOULD BE TO NOT SEE THE VIOLNCE AND KILLINGS THAT OCCUR WITHIN OUR SOCIETY ITSELF, and believe such human nature be only within the "commoner or the poor" for if one human wants to kill WITHOUT JUST CAUSE, THEN SO CAN COLLECTIVE BODIES OF POWER WHO ARE JUST PEOPLE, and any other assertion of just sheer propoganda and delusion and self conjecture taken on as true reality.

Last time I checked we dropped a couple of bombs to end one of the messiest conflicts in history, not out of hatred. We did it to stop a war where our enemies set up concentration camps and exterminated millions and millions of people. We didn't even enter the war until we were attacked first.

Get your history straight and why we did what we did.

i stop listening when i hear how the founding fathers were so high and mighty in their "freedom for all" when they were importing slaves at the same time...that freedom for all didn't mean countries around the globe, they were talking about here in America. sometimes things need to be done that everyone won't agree with for the good of the nation. sorry you don't agree with war, but sometimes it is necessary, look throughout history and you will see. WW1and WW2 were very good examples of what i just said. if we didn't get involved, japan and germany would have been to strong, and we would have lost...

If we didn't get involved all of the European Union and Russia would now be Germany, all of Aisa would be Japan and we would have eventually been screwed.

Hitler was furious that we were attacked by Japan because he knew once the USA got involved in the war it would be over, BUT he had to honor the pact with Japan and Italy and publically support the attack on Pearl Harbor.

Hitler figured that as long as we wern't messed with we would go along with whatever the outcome would be.

agreed indeed!

all very good points.

but, to suggest, what "America would never do", still undermines any value of what would KEEP US FROM DOING JUST THAT?

scrutiny of America itself, be needed to KEEP SUCH FROM HAPPENING?

and why did you leave out all of history that does not validate your own point?

we also killed witches, and anyone found to aid them, and also slaughtered indian's, and killed anyone that aided them, and also enslaved black people, and killed many of them and any found aiding them...

only seeing BOTH SIDES of our history, would be non partisan, or non biased?

not to mention, to only see HALF THE COIN, show motive but to prove what self wishes to prove, to validate the view self wishes to take, showing no want or need to base such on true reality, or ALL THAT HAS ACTUALLY OCCURED?

so to make reality based decision's, upon thinking that show itself is biased, would be to as stated delusional, and conjecture?

for delusional, is to but to see THE PART OF THE FACTS THAT SUITE THE SELF, or TAKING DATA BUT TO PROVE SELF AS SUPREME, in it's perception, thought, motive, and word, and then deeds?

SELF SUPREMACIST, LOL....

that which believe's it's own perception be supreme, with no need for any critique, or ALL FACTS, and soon, no critique even be accepted, and so, THEN WA LAH, BACK TO DICTATOR MENTALITY.

the exact premise of all the last post?

hum...

not to mention, where there is the greatest power, there also be the greatest propensity for corruption, as ALL our media be showing the world each day.

and corruption, bring into question integrity, and integrity bring into question motive, and motive bring into question the merit OF ALL ASSERATION'S, no different if one finds a student cheating, then that student created it's own later scrutiny?

or critque of itself?

still, no valid reason for not embracing critique as the very foundation of all that is good, and just, and what keeps atrocities from occuring at home and abroad, and keeps corruption from compromising our own national security.

just because we bombed someone before, DOES NOT MEAN ALL FURTHER ACTION'S ARE TO BE GRANTED IMMUNITY FROM SCRUTINY?

TAKING THIS TO GIVE "PROOF", THAT ALL BOMBINGS OR KILLINGS OR WAR BE GOOD, is BIASED IN ITSELF.

again, self validating, only USING THE FACTS WISHED, TO PAINT THE DESIRED VERDICT ONE ALREADY WISHED TO GET, to prove only what it wishes to prove, LOL...

and by the way, why the extremist view about "hate"?

why is hate bad?

corruption doth not exist, due to "hate" of corruption?

so hate is not bad either?

you say we did not bomb them for "hate" sake?

but you have no balanced or non partisan view of hate?

we did go to war for "hate", for we hated the inhumane treatment of other's.

awh, but using hate in such context oneself, show this be the only way self view hate, so the only way self use hate ITSELF, which show oneself doth not actually hate, or have extreme dislike, for any torture, or pain, or inhumane treatment of other's, OR, self would have felt EXTREME HATE, AGAINST SUCH THINGS, AND NOT USED THE WORD TO ONLY MEAN HATE AS IN A "BAD THANG", lol...

man...

the view of hate, again, show total bias in the use of data, but to validate oneself?

so this show's a lopsided, or unbalanced perception...

and you wish for me to stake my life and the lives of my loved one's and countrymen on your perception of "nuke em" huh?

no thanks

good luck with that non partisan perception.

WE were not the only people killing the peoples that you mentioned...
the mexicans, the french, the english were all killing others at that time here. did they not kill anyone that seemed a bit different at that time? the english didn't kill witches? it was the times back then, and thats the way EVERYONE from all countries did things... We didn't do anything new here, those customs were brought here from all over the world.