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And if an indictment for murder was even remotely similar to being elected President of the United States by a landslide, that statement might mean something. -Kerry O. In the context it was used in it did go perfectly. Sorry it went over your head. 'Fraid not, mon cherie. It was an obvious attempt to 'poison the well', a common debating tactic amongst the loud and less adept at making a case based on merits. But that's Birthers for you-- anyone who doesn't see things their way is an idiot. Which is why Birther-in-Chief Orly Taitz was cited for contempt of court. You know, if you really feel this strongly about it and aren't just blowing smoke, why don't you exercise your Constitutional right to seek redress in the courts? Take him to court. Or write your Republican Congressperson and DEMAND they impeach Obama when they win a majority in the House this fall. I mean really, you already have half the posters in the Current Events forum on Mingle^2 convinced, right? :) What could go wrong? -Kerry O. LOL 
Nice try, but you still missed the point. I have grown weary of arguing people who are incapable of offering a legitimate argument. Personal attacks and opinions are useless on me. I am above that type of petty arguing. Obviously not. Most of your answers include posturing and veiled insults. Like this one. Newsflash: The Internet is lousy with snarky posters who say they are soooooo weary--but nobody gives a crap about that sort of posturing. They only care about what you write, not how smart you contend you are or pretend to be. Or your history at getting people to see your point of view on loud rhetoric as opposed to through persuasion based on verifiable facts. And history has shown me that the Birther movement is one big loud Fail. Not a single court has rendered a verdict in the Birthers' favor. -Kerry O. -Kerry O. LOL I am the only one who posted facts. Is your tactic to try insulting me and distract from the truth that you have no valid point other than not liking me? I tried to tell you that the personal attacks won't bother me. It only shows me how desperate and angry you truly are. That may work with other people from here but not me.  Some love to beat around the bush.
Normally I am all for beating around the bush  Sorry that was a naughty joke
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Edited by
msharmony
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And if an indictment for murder was even remotely similar to being elected President of the United States by a landslide, that statement might mean something. -Kerry O. In the context it was used in it did go perfectly. Sorry it went over your head. 'Fraid not, mon cherie. It was an obvious attempt to 'poison the well', a common debating tactic amongst the loud and less adept at making a case based on merits. But that's Birthers for you-- anyone who doesn't see things their way is an idiot. Which is why Birther-in-Chief Orly Taitz was cited for contempt of court. You know, if you really feel this strongly about it and aren't just blowing smoke, why don't you exercise your Constitutional right to seek redress in the courts? Take him to court. Or write your Republican Congressperson and DEMAND they impeach Obama when they win a majority in the House this fall. I mean really, you already have half the posters in the Current Events forum on Mingle^2 convinced, right? :) What could go wrong? -Kerry O. LOL
Nice try, but you still missed the point. I have grown weary of arguing people who are incapable of offering a legitimate argument. Personal attacks and opinions are useless on me. I am above that type of petty arguing. Obviously not. Most of your answers include posturing and veiled insults. Like this one. Newsflash: The Internet is lousy with snarky posters who say they are soooooo weary--but nobody gives a crap about that sort of posturing. They only care about what you write, not how smart you contend you are or pretend to be. Or your history at getting people to see your point of view on loud rhetoric as opposed to through persuasion based on verifiable facts. And history has shown me that the Birther movement is one big loud Fail. Not a single court has rendered a verdict in the Birthers' favor. -Kerry O. -Kerry O. LOL I am the only one who posted facts. Is your tactic to try insulting me and distract from the truth that you have no valid point other than not liking me? I tried to tell you that the personal attacks won't bother me. It only shows me how desperate and angry you truly are. That may work with other people from here but not me. Some love to beat around the bush.
Or some just make stuff up, thrive on conspiracy theroys and just filled with hate. amen to that,,,,along with the intelligent and rational debaters, there are certainly the fair share of paranoid and intellectually dishonest, and plain out delusional ones as well but what would life be without diversity and balance,,,lol |
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And if an indictment for murder was even remotely similar to being elected President of the United States by a landslide, that statement might mean something. -Kerry O. In the context it was used in it did go perfectly. Sorry it went over your head. 'Fraid not, mon cherie. It was an obvious attempt to 'poison the well', a common debating tactic amongst the loud and less adept at making a case based on merits. But that's Birthers for you-- anyone who doesn't see things their way is an idiot. Which is why Birther-in-Chief Orly Taitz was cited for contempt of court. You know, if you really feel this strongly about it and aren't just blowing smoke, why don't you exercise your Constitutional right to seek redress in the courts? Take him to court. Or write your Republican Congressperson and DEMAND they impeach Obama when they win a majority in the House this fall. I mean really, you already have half the posters in the Current Events forum on Mingle^2 convinced, right? :) What could go wrong? -Kerry O. LOL
Nice try, but you still missed the point. I have grown weary of arguing people who are incapable of offering a legitimate argument. Personal attacks and opinions are useless on me. I am above that type of petty arguing. Obviously not. Most of your answers include posturing and veiled insults. Like this one. Newsflash: The Internet is lousy with snarky posters who say they are soooooo weary--but nobody gives a crap about that sort of posturing. They only care about what you write, not how smart you contend you are or pretend to be. Or your history at getting people to see your point of view on loud rhetoric as opposed to through persuasion based on verifiable facts. And history has shown me that the Birther movement is one big loud Fail. Not a single court has rendered a verdict in the Birthers' favor. -Kerry O. -Kerry O. LOL I am the only one who posted facts. Is your tactic to try insulting me and distract from the truth that you have no valid point other than not liking me? I tried to tell you that the personal attacks won't bother me. It only shows me how desperate and angry you truly are. That may work with other people from here but not me. Some love to beat around the bush.
Normally I am all for beating around the bush Sorry that was a naughty joke
I'm all for beating around 'in' the bush and I am not joking around! 
Still I say unto thee. I can buy people books but all they do is tear off the covers and eat the pages. Read facts? That is just too hard for some people. It is funny how it can look and sound like a goose but people can see it as a swan. I want a pair of those happy glasses! Where can I get a pair??? |
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And if an indictment for murder was even remotely similar to being elected President of the United States by a landslide, that statement might mean something. -Kerry O. In the context it was used in it did go perfectly. Sorry it went over your head. 'Fraid not, mon cherie. It was an obvious attempt to 'poison the well', a common debating tactic amongst the loud and less adept at making a case based on merits. But that's Birthers for you-- anyone who doesn't see things their way is an idiot. Which is why Birther-in-Chief Orly Taitz was cited for contempt of court. You know, if you really feel this strongly about it and aren't just blowing smoke, why don't you exercise your Constitutional right to seek redress in the courts? Take him to court. Or write your Republican Congressperson and DEMAND they impeach Obama when they win a majority in the House this fall. I mean really, you already have half the posters in the Current Events forum on Mingle^2 convinced, right? :) What could go wrong? -Kerry O. LOL
Nice try, but you still missed the point. I have grown weary of arguing people who are incapable of offering a legitimate argument. Personal attacks and opinions are useless on me. I am above that type of petty arguing. Obviously not. Most of your answers include posturing and veiled insults. Like this one. Newsflash: The Internet is lousy with snarky posters who say they are soooooo weary--but nobody gives a crap about that sort of posturing. They only care about what you write, not how smart you contend you are or pretend to be. Or your history at getting people to see your point of view on loud rhetoric as opposed to through persuasion based on verifiable facts. And history has shown me that the Birther movement is one big loud Fail. Not a single court has rendered a verdict in the Birthers' favor. -Kerry O. -Kerry O. LOL I am the only one who posted facts. Is your tactic to try insulting me and distract from the truth that you have no valid point other than not liking me? I tried to tell you that the personal attacks won't bother me. It only shows me how desperate and angry you truly are. That may work with other people from here but not me. Some love to beat around the bush.
Normally I am all for beating around the bush Sorry that was a naughty joke
Me Too!!
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you just wanted to use that smiley for a change, didn't ya?
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you just wanted to use that smiley for a change, didn't ya? Yea, I was bored |
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Edited by
KerryO
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Sat 10/09/10 01:44 PM
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And if an indictment for murder was even remotely similar to being elected President of the United States by a landslide, that statement might mean something. -Kerry O. In the context it was used in it did go perfectly. Sorry it went over your head. 'Fraid not, mon cherie. It was an obvious attempt to 'poison the well', a common debating tactic amongst the loud and less adept at making a case based on merits. But that's Birthers for you-- anyone who doesn't see things their way is an idiot. Which is why Birther-in-Chief Orly Taitz was cited for contempt of court. You know, if you really feel this strongly about it and aren't just blowing smoke, why don't you exercise your Constitutional right to seek redress in the courts? Take him to court. Or write your Republican Congressperson and DEMAND they impeach Obama when they win a majority in the House this fall. I mean really, you already have half the posters in the Current Events forum on Mingle^2 convinced, right? :) What could go wrong? -Kerry O. LOL
Nice try, but you still missed the point. I have grown weary of arguing people who are incapable of offering a legitimate argument. Personal attacks and opinions are useless on me. I am above that type of petty arguing. Obviously not. Most of your answers include posturing and veiled insults. Like this one. Newsflash: The Internet is lousy with snarky posters who say they are soooooo weary--but nobody gives a crap about that sort of posturing. They only care about what you write, not how smart you contend you are or pretend to be. Or your history at getting people to see your point of view on loud rhetoric as opposed to through persuasion based on verifiable facts. And history has shown me that the Birther movement is one big loud Fail. Not a single court has rendered a verdict in the Birthers' favor. -Kerry O. -Kerry O. LOL I am the only one who posted facts. Is your tactic to try insulting me and distract from the truth that you have no valid point other than not liking me? I tried to tell you that the personal attacks won't bother me. It only shows me how desperate and angry you truly are. That may work with other people from here but not me. Some love to beat around the bush.
Or some just make stuff up, thrive on conspiracy theroys and just filled with hate. Well, all you and your merry band of Rightwingers For Truth have to on this topic, then, is post just ONE court case where Birther have prevailed. Could it be the reason none of you have yet is because the one 'fact' you can't post is the one that would settle the matter in your favor? What are you waiting for? Is it because you CAN'T? And are posting innuendo about other Mingle^2 posters to cover for the indadequacy of your 'debate'? The 'New York Lawyer' credo bears repeating: If the fact are on your side, argue the facts. If the facts are against you, yell and beat your fists on the table. Because really, if you pulled some of the stuntes in an actual court of law that have been tried here, any presiding judge would find you out of order and sanction you. (Which is precisely why Orly Taitz was scanctioned, and if memory serves, about to be fined for contempt of court.) -Kerry O. |
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The only "Judge" That means anything to me. Is my Taurus Judge.
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And if an indictment for murder was even remotely similar to being elected President of the United States by a landslide, that statement might mean something. -Kerry O. In the context it was used in it did go perfectly. Sorry it went over your head. 'Fraid not, mon cherie. It was an obvious attempt to 'poison the well', a common debating tactic amongst the loud and less adept at making a case based on merits. But that's Birthers for you-- anyone who doesn't see things their way is an idiot. Which is why Birther-in-Chief Orly Taitz was cited for contempt of court. You know, if you really feel this strongly about it and aren't just blowing smoke, why don't you exercise your Constitutional right to seek redress in the courts? Take him to court. Or write your Republican Congressperson and DEMAND they impeach Obama when they win a majority in the House this fall. I mean really, you already have half the posters in the Current Events forum on Mingle^2 convinced, right? :) What could go wrong? -Kerry O. LOL
Nice try, but you still missed the point. I have grown weary of arguing people who are incapable of offering a legitimate argument. Personal attacks and opinions are useless on me. I am above that type of petty arguing. Obviously not. Most of your answers include posturing and veiled insults. Like this one. Newsflash: The Internet is lousy with snarky posters who say they are soooooo weary--but nobody gives a crap about that sort of posturing. They only care about what you write, not how smart you contend you are or pretend to be. Or your history at getting people to see your point of view on loud rhetoric as opposed to through persuasion based on verifiable facts. And history has shown me that the Birther movement is one big loud Fail. Not a single court has rendered a verdict in the Birthers' favor. -Kerry O. -Kerry O. LOL I am the only one who posted facts. Is your tactic to try insulting me and distract from the truth that you have no valid point other than not liking me? I tried to tell you that the personal attacks won't bother me. It only shows me how desperate and angry you truly are. That may work with other people from here but not me. Some love to beat around the bush.
Or some just make stuff up, thrive on conspiracy theroys and just filled with hate. Well, all you and your merry band of Rightwingers For Truth have to on this topic, then, is post just ONE court case where Birther have prevailed. Could it be the reason none of you have yet is because the one 'fact' you can't post is the one that would settle the matter in your favor? What are you waiting for? Is it because you CAN'T? And are posting innuendo about other Mingle^2 posters to cover for the indadequacy of your 'debate'? The 'New York Lawyer' credo bears repeating: If the fact are on your side, argue the facts. If the facts are against you, yell and beat your fists on the table. Because really, if you pulled some of the stuntes in an actual court of law that have been tried here, any presiding judge would find you out of order and sanction you. (Which is precisely why Orly Taitz was scanctioned, and if memory serves, about to be fined for contempt of court.) -Kerry O. So your gonna start with the personal attacks now eh? I am not a birther and never claimed to be. I said the way to shut people up would be to provide the actual document and make people eat crow, when you dont do that it make it look like your hiding something. |
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So your gonna start with the personal attacks now eh? I am not a birther and never claimed to be. I said the way to shut people up would be to provide the actual document and make people eat crow, when you dont do that it make it look like your hiding something. What personal attack?? You can either site a court case in favor of your agenda, or you can't. Although you're now claiming not to be a Birther, you sure stir the pot like one. Obama provided a birth certificate that satisfied even extremeist people such as Ann Coulter. So, maybe it's time for you to show _your_ cards-- if you have them. Post a case that shows that his Hawaii birth certificate wasn't the legal document that clears up this controversy or admit you have NO legal leg to stand upon by demanding these documents. -Kerry O. |
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So your gonna start with the personal attacks now eh? I am not a birther and never claimed to be. I said the way to shut people up would be to provide the actual document and make people eat crow, when you dont do that it make it look like your hiding something. What personal attack?? You can either site a court case in favor of your agenda, or you can't. Although you're now claiming not to be a Birther, you sure stir the pot like one. Obama provided a birth certificate that satisfied even extremeist people such as Ann Coulter. So, maybe it's time for you to show _your_ cards-- if you have them. Post a case that shows that his Hawaii birth certificate wasn't the legal document that clears up this controversy or admit you have NO legal leg to stand upon by demanding these documents. -Kerry O. There is a difference between a Birth Certificate and a Certificate of Live birth. I'm not stirring the pot im just saying he needs to produce a Birth Certificate to shut the people up, unless he has something to hide. |
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There is a difference between a Birth Certificate and a Certificate of Live birth. I'm not stirring the pot im just saying he needs to produce a Birth Certificate to shut the people up, unless he has something to hide. I would think a Harvard Law Professor such as Obama would know about this alleged 'difference'. And, apparently, the courts unanimously agree with him. Not you. Or the Birthers, who keep running this issue of the flagpole for the courts to 'flag it down'. Keeping this issue alive is just more Tea Party FUD (Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt), and just as apparently, it's not heard much outside the right wing echo chambers that provide it a regenerative feedback loop. It's just not credible. -Kerry O. |
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I THINK EVERYONE AS A CHOICE TO VOTE OR NOT
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So your gonna start with the personal attacks now eh? I am not a birther and never claimed to be. I said the way to shut people up would be to provide the actual document and make people eat crow, when you dont do that it make it look like your hiding something. What personal attack?? You can either site a court case in favor of your agenda, or you can't. Although you're now claiming not to be a Birther, you sure stir the pot like one. Obama provided a birth certificate that satisfied even extremeist people such as Ann Coulter. So, maybe it's time for you to show _your_ cards-- if you have them. Post a case that shows that his Hawaii birth certificate wasn't the legal document that clears up this controversy or admit you have NO legal leg to stand upon by demanding these documents. -Kerry O. There is a difference between a Birth Certificate and a Certificate of Live birth. I'm not stirring the pot im just saying he needs to produce a Birth Certificate to shut the people up, unless he has something to hide. for purposes of citizenship, there isnt the document he showed is exactly like the one I showed to receive my passport(prove my citizenship) |
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I THINK EVERYONE AS A CHOICE TO VOTE OR NOT and you think correctly,,, 
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I THINK EVERYONE AS A CHOICE TO VOTE OR NOT and you think correctly,,,
Not even Obama has given Felons the ability to vote yet 
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So your gonna start with the personal attacks now eh? I am not a birther and never claimed to be. I said the way to shut people up would be to provide the actual document and make people eat crow, when you dont do that it make it look like your hiding something. What personal attack?? You can either site a court case in favor of your agenda, or you can't. Although you're now claiming not to be a Birther, you sure stir the pot like one. Obama provided a birth certificate that satisfied even extremeist people such as Ann Coulter. So, maybe it's time for you to show _your_ cards-- if you have them. Post a case that shows that his Hawaii birth certificate wasn't the legal document that clears up this controversy or admit you have NO legal leg to stand upon by demanding these documents. -Kerry O. it wasn't a birth certificate and you know it wasn't...it was a copy of a certificate of live birth... |
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it wasn't a birth certificate and you know it wasn't...it was a copy of a certificate of live birth... It apparently satisfied everyone except the fanatics who will stop at nothing to thwart the will of the electorate. See, that's one of the ways fanaticism works-- it thinks the Law is there for its exclusive use to acheive only the ends it deems worthy. That it's a last chance 'Gotcha' when no other method works when it's on a By Any Means Necessary mission to save America. The Birthers are no different than the fanactics who were trying to mount an Impeach George W. Bush campaign every other week. Ambrose Bierce said it pretty well in his creation of the toungue-in-cheek Devil's Dictionary: Politics, n., A strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. The conduct of public affairs for private advantage. -Kerry O. |
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it wasn't a birth certificate and you know it wasn't...it was a copy of a certificate of live birth... It apparently satisfied everyone except the fanatics who will stop at nothing to thwart the will of the electorate. See, that's one of the ways fanaticism works-- it thinks the Law is there for its exclusive use to acheive only the ends it deems worthy. That it's a last chance 'Gotcha' when no other method works when it's on a By Any Means Necessary mission to save America. The Birthers are no different than the fanactics who were trying to mount an Impeach George W. Bush campaign every other week. Ambrose Bierce said it pretty well in his creation of the toungue-in-cheek Devil's Dictionary: Politics, n., A strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. The conduct of public affairs for private advantage. -Kerry O. Look I am tired of you calling names. Not one person in this thread has called a name but you, even political motivate names. Keep the personal attacks to yourself. I don't care if the definition of ******* describes you I wont use it on this forum, so don't use "birthers" to describe people here unless you want the insults and name calling to start. Make your point without insulting people. |
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