Topic: Applause for Ahmadinejad
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Fri 09/24/10 06:34 PM
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Fri 09/24/10 06:56 PM
Edited by MiddleEarthling on Fri 09/24/10 06:59 PM





Not many americans know about the two sides of the nuclear non proliferation treaty. One side signed to not develope nuclear weapons the other countries who allready possesed them are required to reduce down to zero in exchange. Of course we only demand other countries not develope them and refuse to reduce our own stockpiles. Most educated people are aware of this. Regardless no one has proven Iran is even developing weapons at all. As for 911 I dont buy that BS either no freaking way a plane penetrated the most defended air space on the planet and hit the pentagon especialy after the twin towers were allready hit. What a mess this country is in when an average Joe american like myself cant even self delude myself that all is well..................


Akmadinnerjacket tho~ a nutjob is correct about 9-11. I hate that it's him that gets it in the press...the Truthers have many credible spokespersons but him saying it gives ammo to the witless Duhniers.

Egads....you know?




all he's trying to do is get the dim-witted people that believe that nonsense to act on it to try to divide the US even more than it is.
to bad the dim-wits do not see that, we really don't need any more inner turmoil...





Dim- Witss.. Get Informed!!!





http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1 U.S. Military Wanted to Provoke War With Cuba
Book: U.S. Military Drafted Plans to Terrorize U.S. Cities to Provoke War With Cuba

60 comments By David Ruppe
N E W Y O R K, May 1, 2001 ( NOTICE BEFORE 9/11 )





In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit

acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba.

Code named Operation Northwoods, the plans reportedly included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats

of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and even orchestrating violent terrorism in

U.S. cities.

The plans were developed as ways to trick the American public and the international community into supporting a war to oust

Cuba's then new leader, communist Fidel Castro.

America's top military brass even contemplated causing U.S. military casualties, writing: "We could blow up a U.S. ship in

Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba," and, "casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national

indignation."

Details of the plans are described in Body of Secrets (Doubleday), a new book by investigative reporter James Bamford about

the history of America's largest spy agency, the National Security Agency. However, the plans were not connected to the

agency, he notes.

The plans had the written approval of all of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and were presented to President Kennedy's defense

secretary, Robert McNamara, in March 1962. But they apparently were rejected by the civilian leadership and have gone

undisclosed for nearly 40 years.

"These were Joint Chiefs of Staff documents. The reason these were held secret for so long is the Joint Chiefs never wanted

to give these up because they were so embarrassing," Bamford told ABCNEWS.com.

"The whole point of a democracy is to have leaders responding to the public will, and here this is the complete reverse,

the military trying to trick the American people into a war that they want but that nobody else wants."

Gunning for War

The documents show "the Joint Chiefs of Staff drew up and approved plans for what may be the most corrupt plan ever created

by the U.S. government," writes Bamford.


The Joint Chiefs even proposed using the potential death of astronaut John Glenn during the first attempt to put an

American into orbit as a false pretext for war with Cuba, the documents show.

Should the rocket explode and kill Glenn, they wrote, "the objective is to provide irrevocable proof … that the fault lies

with the Communists et all Cuba [sic]."

The plans were motivated by an intense desire among senior military leaders to depose Castro, who seized power in 1959 to

become the first communist leader in the Western Hemisphere — only 90 miles from U.S. shores.

The earlier CIA-backed Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba by Cuban exiles had been a disastrous failure, in which the military

was not allowed to provide firepower.The military leaders now wanted a shot at it.

"The whole thing was so bizarre," says Bamford, noting public and international support would be needed for an invasion,

but apparently neither the American public, nor the Cuban public, wanted to see U.S. troops deployed to drive out Castro.

Reflecting this, the U.S. plan called for establishing prolonged military — not democratic — control over the island nation

after the invasion.

"That's what we're supposed to be freeing them from," Bamford says. "The only way we would have succeeded is by doing

exactly what the Russians were doing all over the world, by imposing a government by tyranny, basically what we were

accusing Castro himself of doing."

'Over the Edge'

The Joint Chiefs at the time were headed by Eisenhower appointee Army Gen. Lyman L. Lemnitzer, who, with the signed plans

in hand made a pitch to McNamara on March 13, 1962, recommending Operation Northwoods be run by the military.

Whether the Joint Chiefs' plans were rejected by McNamara in the meeting is not clear. But three days later, President

Kennedy told Lemnitzer directly there was virtually no possibility of ever using overt force to take Cuba, Bamford reports.

Within months, Lemnitzer would be denied another term as chairman and transferred to another job.


The secret plans came at a time when there was distrust in the military leadership about their civilian leadership, with

leaders in the Kennedy administration viewed as too liberal, insufficiently experienced and soft on communism. At the same

time, however, there real were concerns in American society about their military overstepping its bounds.

There were reports U.S. military leaders had encouraged their subordinates to vote conservative during the election.

And at least two popular books were published focusing on a right-wing military leadership pushing the limits against

government policy of the day.

The Senate Foreign Relations Committee published its own report on right-wing extremism in the military, warning a

"considerable danger" in the "education and propaganda activities of military personnel" had been uncovered. The committee

even called for an examination of any ties between Lemnitzer and right-wing groups. But Congress didn't get wind of

Northwoods, says Bamford.

"Although no one in Congress could have known at the time," he writes, "Lemnitzer and the Joint Chiefs had quietly slipped

over the edge."

Even after Lemnitzer was gone, he writes, the Joint Chiefs continued to plan "pretext" operations at least through 1963.

One idea was to create a war between Cuba and another Latin American country so that the United States could intervene.

Another was to pay someone in the Castro government to attack U.S. forces at the Guantanamo naval base — an act, which

Bamford notes, would have amounted to treason. And another was to fly low level U-2 flights over Cuba, with the intention

of having one shot down as a pretext for a war.

"There really was a worry at the time about the military going off crazy and they did, but they never succeeded, but it

wasn't for lack of trying," he says.

After 40 Years

Ironically, the documents came to light, says Bamford, in part because of the 1992 Oliver Stone film JFK, which examined

the possibility of a conspiracy behind the assassination of President Kennedy.

As public interest in the assassination swelled after JFK's release, Congress passed a law designed to increase the

public's access to government records related to the assassination.

The author says a friend on the board tipped him off to the documents.

Afraid of a congressional investigation, Lemnitzer had ordered all Joint Chiefs documents related to the Bay of Pigs

destroyed, says Bamford. But somehow, these remained.

"The scary thing is none of this stuff comes out until 40 years after," says Bamford


=ronically enough the proof is subjective and could possibly have been fabricated.....the other point is.....there is no proof for 911.....and for everyone that can bring proof for one side another can also for the opposition.......I still do not see any unequivical proof to suppot 911 and that is what we are talking about after all isn't it.....not what happened in the 60s 40 years ago.......how does what happened forty years ago prove in anyway what happened at 911........and tell me there is proof it wasn't terroists or another country doing to the US what they suspect the US did in 1960....besides if Cheyney had anything to do with it he'd of just taken a shotgun and shot everyone....now that incident I would call suspect......


50 Years,...and I think people misunderstand the CT...I mean it's a CT to cover up the obvious...9-11 is an unsolved crime right...eh?

Who keeps it in America's closet?...most of the sane world country's people believe 9-11 was...uh, not as reported so expose the shills and you'll find some of the 9-11 criminals.

Here's the question to Americans...only 46% think the (CIA named) "Al Qaeda" did it...OBL isn't wanted for it. Whodunnit then?



NONE of you have taken an objective look at 9-11, Ackmadinnerjacket IS an arsehole...but he's right about 9-11.




Dragoness's photo
Fri 09/24/10 07:13 PM
No big deal what the guy said.

He doesn't do anything for this country so who cares.

mightymoe's photo
Sat 09/25/10 12:10 AM


50 Years,...and I think people misunderstand the CT...I mean it's a CT to cover up the obvious...9-11 is an unsolved crime right...eh?

Who keeps it in America's closet?...most of the sane world country's people believe 9-11 was...uh, not as reported so expose the shills and you'll find some of the 9-11 criminals.

Here's the question to Americans...only 46% think the (CIA named) "Al Qaeda" did it...OBL isn't wanted for it. Whodunnit then?



no, 9/11 is not unsolved... they have confessions, muslims are in prison for it... al quida and bin ladin admitted to it...

s1owhand's photo
Sat 09/25/10 09:05 AM
Edited by s1owhand on Sat 09/25/10 09:10 AM
any reasonably intelligent person knows al qaeda did it
plenty of clear evidence

MiddleEarthling's photo
Sat 09/25/10 09:59 AM



50 Years,...and I think people misunderstand the CT...I mean it's a CT to cover up the obvious...9-11 is an unsolved crime right...eh?

Who keeps it in America's closet?...most of the sane world country's people believe 9-11 was...uh, not as reported so expose the shills and you'll find some of the 9-11 criminals.

Here's the question to Americans...only 46% think the (CIA named) "Al Qaeda" did it...OBL isn't wanted for it. Whodunnit then?



no, 9/11 is not unsolved... they have confessions, muslims are in prison for it... al quida and bin ladin admitted to it...



Waterboard you and you'll say anything plus SHOW ME where OBL admitted to the attacks. SHOW ME.


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Sat 09/25/10 01:38 PM




50 Years,...and I think people misunderstand the CT...I mean it's a CT to cover up the obvious...9-11 is an unsolved crime right...eh?

Who keeps it in America's closet?...most of the sane world country's people believe 9-11 was...uh, not as reported so expose the shills and you'll find some of the 9-11 criminals.

Here's the question to Americans...only 46% think the (CIA named) "Al Qaeda" did it...OBL isn't wanted for it. Whodunnit then?



no, 9/11 is not unsolved... they have confessions, muslims are in prison for it... al quida and bin ladin admitted to it...



Waterboard you and you'll say anything plus SHOW ME where OBL admitted to the attacks. SHOW ME.


i don't have to show you anything... no matter what i show you will find fault with it, so go live in your fantasy land, you don't wanna see the real truth...

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Sat 09/25/10 04:00 PM
Edited by Milesoftheusa on Sat 09/25/10 04:02 PM
I find it interesting if nothing else. in 1962 the operation was to be called...

Operation Northwoods


on 9 11

OPERATION NORTHERN VIGILANCE was 1 of the operations going on

Names in the armed forces and NASA have a lot of thought gone into them.. Like the secret Aries Shuttle most Americans have forgot about then alone what they are saying that shuttle is

MiddleEarthling's photo
Sat 09/25/10 04:15 PM

I find it interesting if nothing else. in 1962 the operation was to be called...

Operation Northwoods


on 9 11

OPERATION NORTHERN VIGILANCE was 1 of the operations going on

Names in the armed forces and NASA have a lot of thought gone into them.. Like the secret Aries Shuttle most Americans have forgot about then alone what they are saying that shuttle is


Interesting...well that was going on over Canada on 9-11 so I doubt they named it that tongue-in-cheek. Since (for fun) we are reaching here...I saw Curb's after show discussions a few weeks back and they were talking about the episode where everyone left LA because of a rumor of a terrorist attack...one of the guest on the show from NY said, "Oh, I heard a rumor before 9-11 about an attack that day (in NYC)". OOPS. Wish I had caught her name...but didn't think it important to follow up on since we have more than enough evidence to support a real investigation..

"Operation Northern Vigilance, was a NORAD operation which involved deploying fighter aircraft to locations in Alaska and Northern Canada.[1] The operation was a response to a Russian exercise, in which long-range bombers were dispatched to Russia's high north. The operation was one part simulation, one part real world. It was immediately called off after NORAD received word from NEADS that the Federal Aviation Administration had evidence of a hijacking. All simulated information (so called "injects") were purged from computer screens at NORAD headquarters in Colorado. On receiving news of the attacks, the Russians promptly canceled their exercise as well"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_government_operations_and_exercises_on_September_11,_2001

Question: Why was there a Cold War operation going on in 2001?


mightymoe's photo
Sat 09/25/10 04:44 PM
Edited by mightymoe on Sat 09/25/10 05:22 PM


I find it interesting if nothing else. in 1962 the operation was to be called...

Operation Northwoods


on 9 11

OPERATION NORTHERN VIGILANCE was 1 of the operations going on

Names in the armed forces and NASA have a lot of thought gone into them.. Like the secret Aries Shuttle most Americans have forgot about then alone what they are saying that shuttle is


Interesting...well that was going on over Canada on 9-11 so I doubt they named it that tongue-in-cheek. Since (for fun) we are reaching here...I saw Curb's after show discussions a few weeks back and they were talking about the episode where everyone left LA because of a rumor of a terrorist attack...one of the guest on the show from NY said, "Oh, I heard a rumor before 9-11 about an attack that day (in NYC)". OOPS. Wish I had caught her name...but didn't think it important to follow up on since we have more than enough evidence to support a real investigation..

"Operation Northern Vigilance, was a NORAD operation which involved deploying fighter aircraft to locations in Alaska and Northern Canada.[1] The operation was a response to a Russian exercise, in which long-range bombers were dispatched to Russia's high north. The operation was one part simulation, one part real world. It was immediately called off after NORAD received word from NEADS that the Federal Aviation Administration had evidence of a hijacking. All simulated information (so called "injects") were purged from computer screens at NORAD headquarters in Colorado. On receiving news of the attacks, the Russians promptly canceled their exercise as well"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_government_operations_and_exercises_on_September_11,_2001

Question: Why was there a Cold War operation going on in 2001?


they have been doing that for years, and they still do it.
look up how many times the canadian air force is scrambled to intercept russian bombers coming into our/their air space...
it's a frequent thing..

http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20100730/jets-intercepted-100730/20100730?hub=BritishColumbiaHome

s1owhand's photo
Sat 09/25/10 05:07 PM
Edited by s1owhand on Sat 09/25/10 05:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiKyWJRRjnU

drinker

from the Wiki:

The September 11 attacks (often referred to as September 11th or 9/11) were a series of coordinated suicide attacks by al-Qaeda upon the United States on September 11, 2001. On that morning, 19 al-Qaeda terrorists hijacked four commercial passenger jet airliners.[1][2] The hijackers intentionally crashed two of the airliners into the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center in New York City, killing everyone on board and many others working in the buildings. Both buildings collapsed within two hours, destroying nearby buildings and damaging others. The hijackers crashed a third airliner into the Pentagon in Arlington, Virginia, just outside Washington, D.C. The fourth plane crashed into a field near Shanksville in rural Pennsylvania after some of its passengers and flight crew attempted to retake control of the plane, which the hijackers had redirected toward Washington, D.C. There were no survivors from any of the flights.

Nearly 3,000 victims and the 19 hijackers died in the attacks.[3]

1. ^ a b c "Bin Laden claims responsibility for 9/11". CBC News. October 29, 2004. http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2004/10/29/binladen_message041029.html. Retrieved January 11, 2009. "al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden appeared in a new message aired on an Arabic TV station Friday night, for the first time claiming direct responsibility for the 2001 attacks against the United States."
2. ^ a b "Security Council Condemns, 'In Strongest Terms', Terrorist Attacks on the United States". United Nations. September 12, 2001. http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2001/SC7143.doc.htm. Retrieved September 11, 2006. "The Security Council today, following what it called yesterday’s "horrifying terrorist attacks" in New York, Washington, D.C., and Pennsylvania, unequivocally condemned those acts, and expressed its deepest sympathy and condolences to the victims and their families and to the people and Government of the United States."
3. ^ a b "9 Years Later, Nearly 900 9/11 Responders Have Died, Survivors Fight for Compensation". FOX News. September 11, 2010. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/09/09/report-responders-died-ground-zero-illnesses/. Retrieved September 12, 2010.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks

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Sat 09/25/10 06:25 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiKyWJRRjnU

drinker

from the Wiki:

The September 11 attacks (often referred to as September 11th or 9/11) were a series of coordinated suicide attacks by al-Qaeda upon the United States on September 11, 2001. On that morning, 19 al-Qaeda terrorists hijacked four commercial passenger jet airliners.[1][2] The hijackers intentionally crashed two of the airliners into the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center in New York City, killing everyone on board and many others working in the buildings. Both buildings collapsed within two hours, destroying nearby buildings and damaging others. The hijackers crashed a third airliner into the Pentagon in Arlington, Virginia, just outside Washington, D.C. The fourth plane crashed into a field near Shanksville in rural Pennsylvania after some of its passengers and flight crew attempted to retake control of the plane, which the hijackers had redirected toward Washington, D.C. There were no survivors from any of the flights.

Nearly 3,000 victims and the 19 hijackers died in the attacks.[3]

1. ^ a b c "Bin Laden claims responsibility for 9/11". CBC News. October 29, 2004. http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2004/10/29/binladen_message041029.html. Retrieved January 11, 2009. "al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden appeared in a new message aired on an Arabic TV station Friday night, for the first time claiming direct responsibility for the 2001 attacks against the United States."
2. ^ a b "Security Council Condemns, 'In Strongest Terms', Terrorist Attacks on the United States". United Nations. September 12, 2001. http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2001/SC7143.doc.htm. Retrieved September 11, 2006. "The Security Council today, following what it called yesterday’s "horrifying terrorist attacks" in New York, Washington, D.C., and Pennsylvania, unequivocally condemned those acts, and expressed its deepest sympathy and condolences to the victims and their families and to the people and Government of the United States."
3. ^ a b "9 Years Later, Nearly 900 9/11 Responders Have Died, Survivors Fight for Compensation". FOX News. September 11, 2010. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/09/09/report-responders-died-ground-zero-illnesses/. Retrieved September 12, 2010.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks


Yeah, shills write on Wiki often...and then unpaid shills repeat the lies about 9-11 on blog sites...complete with POX spun BS.

Nice try.




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Sat 09/25/10 07:05 PM




miles, I don't believe there is any way to connect Iraq with 911. I think we made a mistake by in effect killing Hussein because he wouldn't have allowed those terrorist organizations into his country. The guy was a freakin megalomaniac and would have cut there heads off if they pooped giving him suggestions. this thing was brokered for Haliburton by Richard Cheyney and the Chinese had a role in this too somehow, they get the lions share of the oil. Next!


Not true, AQ leadership met with top official's in Saddam's Government over the years.

msharmony's photo
Sat 09/25/10 07:08 PM
Saddam had to clean house of some of his backstabbing officials also,, everything they did can not be assumed to be under his guidance or condoning

we really had next to null to tie him in with 9/11,

except maybe all that top secret info that some minglers probably have,,,lol

mightymoe's photo
Sat 09/25/10 07:12 PM

Saddam had to clean house of some of his backstabbing officials also,, everything they did can not be assumed to be under his guidance or condoning

we really had next to null to tie him in with 9/11,

except maybe all that top secret info that some minglers probably have,,,lol
laugh laugh laugh laugh

Lpdon's photo
Sat 09/25/10 07:18 PM




Not many americans know about the two sides of the nuclear non proliferation treaty. One side signed to not develope nuclear weapons the other countries who allready possesed them are required to reduce down to zero in exchange. Of course we only demand other countries not develope them and refuse to reduce our own stockpiles. Most educated people are aware of this. Regardless no one has proven Iran is even developing weapons at all. As for 911 I dont buy that BS either no freaking way a plane penetrated the most defended air space on the planet and hit the pentagon especialy after the twin towers were allready hit. What a mess this country is in when an average Joe american like myself cant even self delude myself that all is well..................


Akmadinnerjacket tho~ a nutjob is correct about 9-11. I hate that it's him that gets it in the press...the Truthers have many credible spokespersons but him saying it gives ammo to the witless Duhniers.

Egads....you know?




all he's trying to do is get the dim-witted people that believe that nonsense to act on it to try to divide the US even more than it is.
to bad the dim-wits do not see that, we really don't need any more inner turmoil...





Dim- Witss.. Get Informed!!!





http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1 U.S. Military Wanted to Provoke War With Cuba
Book: U.S. Military Drafted Plans to Terrorize U.S. Cities to Provoke War With Cuba

60 comments By David Ruppe
N E W Y O R K, May 1, 2001 ( NOTICE BEFORE 9/11 )





In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit

acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba.

Code named Operation Northwoods, the plans reportedly included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats

of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and even orchestrating violent terrorism in

U.S. cities.

The plans were developed as ways to trick the American public and the international community into supporting a war to oust

Cuba's then new leader, communist Fidel Castro.

America's top military brass even contemplated causing U.S. military casualties, writing: "We could blow up a U.S. ship in

Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba," and, "casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national

indignation."

Details of the plans are described in Body of Secrets (Doubleday), a new book by investigative reporter James Bamford about

the history of America's largest spy agency, the National Security Agency. However, the plans were not connected to the

agency, he notes.

The plans had the written approval of all of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and were presented to President Kennedy's defense

secretary, Robert McNamara, in March 1962. But they apparently were rejected by the civilian leadership and have gone

undisclosed for nearly 40 years.

"These were Joint Chiefs of Staff documents. The reason these were held secret for so long is the Joint Chiefs never wanted

to give these up because they were so embarrassing," Bamford told ABCNEWS.com.

"The whole point of a democracy is to have leaders responding to the public will, and here this is the complete reverse,

the military trying to trick the American people into a war that they want but that nobody else wants."

Gunning for War

The documents show "the Joint Chiefs of Staff drew up and approved plans for what may be the most corrupt plan ever created

by the U.S. government," writes Bamford.


The Joint Chiefs even proposed using the potential death of astronaut John Glenn during the first attempt to put an

American into orbit as a false pretext for war with Cuba, the documents show.

Should the rocket explode and kill Glenn, they wrote, "the objective is to provide irrevocable proof … that the fault lies

with the Communists et all Cuba [sic]."

The plans were motivated by an intense desire among senior military leaders to depose Castro, who seized power in 1959 to

become the first communist leader in the Western Hemisphere — only 90 miles from U.S. shores.

The earlier CIA-backed Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba by Cuban exiles had been a disastrous failure, in which the military

was not allowed to provide firepower.The military leaders now wanted a shot at it.

"The whole thing was so bizarre," says Bamford, noting public and international support would be needed for an invasion,

but apparently neither the American public, nor the Cuban public, wanted to see U.S. troops deployed to drive out Castro.

Reflecting this, the U.S. plan called for establishing prolonged military — not democratic — control over the island nation

after the invasion.

"That's what we're supposed to be freeing them from," Bamford says. "The only way we would have succeeded is by doing

exactly what the Russians were doing all over the world, by imposing a government by tyranny, basically what we were

accusing Castro himself of doing."

'Over the Edge'

The Joint Chiefs at the time were headed by Eisenhower appointee Army Gen. Lyman L. Lemnitzer, who, with the signed plans

in hand made a pitch to McNamara on March 13, 1962, recommending Operation Northwoods be run by the military.

Whether the Joint Chiefs' plans were rejected by McNamara in the meeting is not clear. But three days later, President

Kennedy told Lemnitzer directly there was virtually no possibility of ever using overt force to take Cuba, Bamford reports.

Within months, Lemnitzer would be denied another term as chairman and transferred to another job.


The secret plans came at a time when there was distrust in the military leadership about their civilian leadership, with

leaders in the Kennedy administration viewed as too liberal, insufficiently experienced and soft on communism. At the same

time, however, there real were concerns in American society about their military overstepping its bounds.

There were reports U.S. military leaders had encouraged their subordinates to vote conservative during the election.

And at least two popular books were published focusing on a right-wing military leadership pushing the limits against

government policy of the day.

The Senate Foreign Relations Committee published its own report on right-wing extremism in the military, warning a

"considerable danger" in the "education and propaganda activities of military personnel" had been uncovered. The committee

even called for an examination of any ties between Lemnitzer and right-wing groups. But Congress didn't get wind of

Northwoods, says Bamford.

"Although no one in Congress could have known at the time," he writes, "Lemnitzer and the Joint Chiefs had quietly slipped

over the edge."

Even after Lemnitzer was gone, he writes, the Joint Chiefs continued to plan "pretext" operations at least through 1963.

One idea was to create a war between Cuba and another Latin American country so that the United States could intervene.

Another was to pay someone in the Castro government to attack U.S. forces at the Guantanamo naval base — an act, which

Bamford notes, would have amounted to treason. And another was to fly low level U-2 flights over Cuba, with the intention

of having one shot down as a pretext for a war.

"There really was a worry at the time about the military going off crazy and they did, but they never succeeded, but it

wasn't for lack of trying," he says.

After 40 Years

Ironically, the documents came to light, says Bamford, in part because of the 1992 Oliver Stone film JFK, which examined

the possibility of a conspiracy behind the assassination of President Kennedy.

As public interest in the assassination swelled after JFK's release, Congress passed a law designed to increase the

public's access to government records related to the assassination.

The author says a friend on the board tipped him off to the documents.

Afraid of a congressional investigation, Lemnitzer had ordered all Joint Chiefs documents related to the Bay of Pigs

destroyed, says Bamford. But somehow, these remained.

"The scary thing is none of this stuff comes out until 40 years after," says Bamford



That's about as real as the Majestic 12 documents.

damnitscloudy's photo
Sat 09/25/10 07:21 PM
The aliens where behind 9-11! They told me after I took my tinfoil hat off!

Truthers are annoying just like tea partiers and birthers.

s1owhand's photo
Sat 09/25/10 07:35 PM
Edited by s1owhand on Sat 09/25/10 07:36 PM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiKyWJRRjnU

drinker

from the Wiki:

The September 11 attacks (often referred to as September 11th or 9/11) were a series of coordinated suicide attacks by al-Qaeda upon the United States on September 11, 2001. On that morning, 19 al-Qaeda terrorists hijacked four commercial passenger jet airliners.[1][2] The hijackers intentionally crashed two of the airliners into the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center in New York City, killing everyone on board and many others working in the buildings. Both buildings collapsed within two hours, destroying nearby buildings and damaging others. The hijackers crashed a third airliner into the Pentagon in Arlington, Virginia, just outside Washington, D.C. The fourth plane crashed into a field near Shanksville in rural Pennsylvania after some of its passengers and flight crew attempted to retake control of the plane, which the hijackers had redirected toward Washington, D.C. There were no survivors from any of the flights.

Nearly 3,000 victims and the 19 hijackers died in the attacks.[3]

1. ^ a b c "Bin Laden claims responsibility for 9/11". CBC News. October 29, 2004. http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2004/10/29/binladen_message041029.html. Retrieved January 11, 2009. "al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden appeared in a new message aired on an Arabic TV station Friday night, for the first time claiming direct responsibility for the 2001 attacks against the United States."
2. ^ a b "Security Council Condemns, 'In Strongest Terms', Terrorist Attacks on the United States". United Nations. September 12, 2001. http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2001/SC7143.doc.htm. Retrieved September 11, 2006. "The Security Council today, following what it called yesterday’s "horrifying terrorist attacks" in New York, Washington, D.C., and Pennsylvania, unequivocally condemned those acts, and expressed its deepest sympathy and condolences to the victims and their families and to the people and Government of the United States."
3. ^ a b "9 Years Later, Nearly 900 9/11 Responders Have Died, Survivors Fight for Compensation". FOX News. September 11, 2010. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/09/09/report-responders-died-ground-zero-illnesses/. Retrieved September 12, 2010.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks


Yeah, shills write on Wiki often...and then unpaid shills repeat the lies about 9-11 on blog sites...complete with POX spun BS.

Nice try.






rofl

The article has 275 references from free press literature. It is
documented out the wazoo. There is no credible denial of Al-Qaeda's
responsibility for the 9/11 attacks. They've proudly claimed
credit for the atrocity!

rofl

It's you and Ahmadinejad. You are the two most respected authorities!

laugh laugh laugh

laugh

s1owhand's photo
Sat 09/25/10 07:39 PM

The aliens where behind 9-11! They told me after I took my tinfoil hat off!

Truthers are annoying just like tea partiers and birthers.


The aliens have the most truthiness of all.

drinker

msharmony's photo
Sat 09/25/10 07:42 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sat 09/25/10 07:44 PM



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiKyWJRRjnU

drinker

from the Wiki:

The September 11 attacks (often referred to as September 11th or 9/11) were a series of coordinated suicide attacks by al-Qaeda upon the United States on September 11, 2001. On that morning, 19 al-Qaeda terrorists hijacked four commercial passenger jet airliners.[1][2] The hijackers intentionally crashed two of the airliners into the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center in New York City, killing everyone on board and many others working in the buildings. Both buildings collapsed within two hours, destroying nearby buildings and damaging others. The hijackers crashed a third airliner into the Pentagon in Arlington, Virginia, just outside Washington, D.C. The fourth plane crashed into a field near Shanksville in rural Pennsylvania after some of its passengers and flight crew attempted to retake control of the plane, which the hijackers had redirected toward Washington, D.C. There were no survivors from any of the flights.

Nearly 3,000 victims and the 19 hijackers died in the attacks.[3]

1. ^ a b c "Bin Laden claims responsibility for 9/11". CBC News. October 29, 2004. http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2004/10/29/binladen_message041029.html. Retrieved January 11, 2009. "al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden appeared in a new message aired on an Arabic TV station Friday night, for the first time claiming direct responsibility for the 2001 attacks against the United States."
2. ^ a b "Security Council Condemns, 'In Strongest Terms', Terrorist Attacks on the United States". United Nations. September 12, 2001. http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2001/SC7143.doc.htm. Retrieved September 11, 2006. "The Security Council today, following what it called yesterday’s "horrifying terrorist attacks" in New York, Washington, D.C., and Pennsylvania, unequivocally condemned those acts, and expressed its deepest sympathy and condolences to the victims and their families and to the people and Government of the United States."
3. ^ a b "9 Years Later, Nearly 900 9/11 Responders Have Died, Survivors Fight for Compensation". FOX News. September 11, 2010. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/09/09/report-responders-died-ground-zero-illnesses/. Retrieved September 12, 2010.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks


Yeah, shills write on Wiki often...and then unpaid shills repeat the lies about 9-11 on blog sites...complete with POX spun BS.

Nice try.






rofl

The article has 275 references from free press literature. It is
documented out the wazoo. There is no credible denial of Al-Qaeda's
responsibility for the 9/11 attacks. They've proudly claimed
credit for the atrocity!

rofl

It's you and Ahmadinejad. You are the two most respected authorities!

laugh laugh laugh

laugh



actually, even a broken clock is correct twice a day

I at least respect consistency and if people are so demanding to personally see the birth certificate of the president,, certainly finding the FACTS about 9/11 should be just as pressing


I personally think its all paranoia, except that maybe the US government could have intervened and chose not to for the political support it would provide them in the aftermath, but I dont believe it was any americans who came up with or executed the plan

I believe OBama is who he says he is, american born and christian

and I dont believe the government will be forcing us to place chips in our bodies at any time in the near future,,..lol


but it is amazing to see the depths that the human imagination can reach,,