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Topic: Where are those peaceful Muslims when you need them?
Thomas3474's photo
Fri 09/17/10 08:14 PM
Religon of Peace???I would think at least one Muslim would defend this woman and her right to free speach in America.Islam can keep on preaching that tolerance towards Muslims to Americans.Don't expect any from them.


The Seattle cartoonist whose artwork sparked the controversial "Everybody Draw Muhammad Day!" has gone into hiding at the advice of the FBI after being targeted by a radical Muslim cleric, according to the newspaper that published her comics.

Molly Norris has moved and changed her name, the Seattle Weekly said Wednesday, after U.S.-born Yemeni cleric Anwar al-Awlaki placed her on an execution hit list. Awlaki -- who has been linked to the botched Times Square bombing and cited as inspiration for the Fort Hood massacre and a plot by two New Jersey men to kill U.S. soldiers -- reportedly called Norris a "prime target" for assassination and that her "proper abode is hellfire."

"You may have noticed that Molly Norris' comic is not in the paper this week," Seattle Weekly Editor in Chief Mark Fefer wrote Wednesday. "That's because there is no more Molly."

"The gifted artist is alive and well, thankfully. But on the insistence of top security specialists at the FBI, she is, as they put it, 'going ghost': moving, changing her name, and essentially wiping away her identity. She is, in effect, being put into a witness-protection program -- except, as she notes, without the government picking up the tab," Fefer wrote.

Norris ignited a firestorm in April after drawing a satirical cartoon to protest the decision by cable television channel Comedy Central to cancel an episode of "South Park" over its depiction of the Prophet Muhammad in a bear suit.


Soon after, a fan page popped up on Facebook, but Norris wrote on her since-shuttered website that she had nothing to do with it.

"I did NOT 'declare' May 20 to be 'Everybody Draw Muhammad Day,'" she said, adding that her idea was satire that was "taken seriously, hijacked and made viral."

"I apologize to people of Muslim faith and ask that this 'day' be called off," she said.

The 27-year-old Facebook page creator -- a Canadian woman who asked not to be identified due to fears of reprisal -- told FoxNews.com in July that she was visited at her home by Royal Canadian Mounted Police officials who advised her to remove her page and not to talk to reporters.

"I'm scared," she said. "I'm scared that somebody might kill me."

Islam strictly prohibits the depiction of any prophet as blasphemous and the "Draw Muhammad" page led to Facebook being temporarily blocked in Pakistan and sparked angry street protests.

In July, English-language Al Qaeda magazine "Inspire" attributed an article to Awlaki, saying Norris "should be taken as a prime target of assassination."

"The large number of participants makes it easier for us because there are more targets to choose from in addition to the difficulty of the government offering all of them special protection," wrote Awlaki. "But even then our campaign should not be limited to only those who are active participants."

He warned that "assassinations, bombings and acts of arson" are all legitimate forms of revenge against the creators of blasphemous depictions of Muhammad.

"Now, with the defamation of Muhammad reaching the shores of America, I wonder whether the patriotic American Muslim will still have the audacity to claim that he enjoys the right to be a Muslim in America?" Awlaki wrote. "Does he understand that this right includes his duty to fight against those who blaspheme his Prophet?"

Awlaki invited Muslims worldwide to "stand up in defense" of Muhammad and for their efforts to "manifest in all appropriate" means.


joejealousy's photo
Fri 09/17/10 09:27 PM
The term "peacefull muslim" seems to be an oxy-moron. Jesus Christ our lord and savior, is belittled and ridiculed all over the world, and our response is, everyone is allowed to have their own beliefs and opinions. Everyone will have to answer for their own evils. If a person cannot draw a simple picture, of whatever(including the god of another religon) without fear of reprisal, then the world really has become a horrible place. I say don't send innocent people into hiding because certain people don't like their thoughts or ideas, that is simply idiotic! I say make the people who are making the threats, want to hide! Are we really going to allow these people to send us into a shameful world of fear, to the point where people have to hide and change their identity. If our Goverment is going to allow this kind of intimidation to happen, what kind of security do Americans really have? This is why i liked Bush being in office. His take on the situation was, they threatened our freedom and way of life and our feeling of safety, then lets go over there and blow s**t up till they back off. when is enough going to be enough? So I invite Americans everywhere to "stand up in defense" of what makes America the land of the free and the home of the brave! Our safety is being threatened, so we have a duty to target those who target us. -Proud to be an american

Thomas3474's photo
Fri 09/17/10 10:16 PM

The term "peacefull muslim" seems to be an oxy-moron. Jesus Christ our lord and savior, is belittled and ridiculed all over the world, and our response is, everyone is allowed to have their own beliefs and opinions. Everyone will have to answer for their own evils. If a person cannot draw a simple picture, of whatever(including the god of another religon) without fear of reprisal, then the world really has become a horrible place. I say don't send innocent people into hiding because certain people don't like their thoughts or ideas, that is simply idiotic! I say make the people who are making the threats, want to hide! Are we really going to allow these people to send us into a shameful world of fear, to the point where people have to hide and change their identity. If our Goverment is going to allow this kind of intimidation to happen, what kind of security do Americans really have? This is why i liked Bush being in office. His take on the situation was, they threatened our freedom and way of life and our feeling of safety, then lets go over there and blow s**t up till they back off. when is enough going to be enough? So I invite Americans everywhere to "stand up in defense" of what makes America the land of the free and the home of the brave! Our safety is being threatened, so we have a duty to target those who target us. -Proud to be an american



Well said Sir!

Atlantis75's photo
Fri 09/17/10 10:34 PM
This is why i liked Bush being in office. His take on the situation was, they threatened our freedom and way of life and our feeling of safety, then lets go over there and blow s**t up till they back off.


How nice. The peaceful Christians, right?

RKISIT's photo
Fri 09/17/10 10:55 PM

The term "peacefull muslim" seems to be an oxy-moron. Jesus Christ our lord and savior, is belittled and ridiculed all over the world, and our response is, everyone is allowed to have their own beliefs and opinions. Everyone will have to answer for their own evils. If a person cannot draw a simple picture, of whatever(including the god of another religon) without fear of reprisal, then the world really has become a horrible place. I say don't send innocent people into hiding because certain people don't like their thoughts or ideas, that is simply idiotic! I say make the people who are making the threats, want to hide! Are we really going to allow these people to send us into a shameful world of fear, to the point where people have to hide and change their identity. If our Goverment is going to allow this kind of intimidation to happen, what kind of security do Americans really have? This is why i liked Bush being in office. His take on the situation was, they threatened our freedom and way of life and our feeling of safety, then lets go over there and blow s**t up till they back off. when is enough going to be enough? So I invite Americans everywhere to "stand up in defense" of what makes America the land of the free and the home of the brave! Our safety is being threatened, so we have a duty to target those who target us. -Proud to be an american
i bet allah would disagree or zeus or our true founding father,universe

Thomas3474's photo
Fri 09/17/10 11:25 PM

This is why i liked Bush being in office. His take on the situation was, they threatened our freedom and way of life and our feeling of safety, then lets go over there and blow s**t up till they back off.


How nice. The peaceful Christians, right?



Sorry but Bush was doing NOTHING in the name of Christianity,the bible,or anything related to Christianity.If you can find any evidence that Bush decided to go to war because of anything related to the bible,Jesus,Christianity or quoted any bible verses for justification for War I urge you to post them.


When the Christians form their own Army,their own Government,and own country and say they are actions are justified using the bible then you can make stupid statements like the Christians are using their Army to blow things up.


For your information George bush doesn't even believe the bible is true.Any true Christian knows the bible is true.So Bush is a idiot.

http://blogs.cbn.com/thebrodyfile/archive/2008/12/10/president-bush-asked-if-bible-is-literally-true-probably-not.aspx

Interviewer Cynthia McFadden asked Bush if the Bible was literally true.

“You know. Probably not. … No, I’m not a literalist, but I think you can learn a lot from it, but I do think that the New Testament for example is … has got … You know, the important lesson is ‘God sent a son,’” Bush said.

“It is hard for me to justify or prove the mystery of the Almighty in my life,” he said. “All I can just tell you is that I got back into religion and I quit drinking shortly thereafter and I asked for help. … I was a one-step program guy.”

The president also said that he prays to the same God as those with different religious beliefs.
“I do believe there is an almighty that is broad and big enough and loving enough that can encompass a lot of people,” Bush said.

joejealousy's photo
Sat 09/18/10 12:34 AM
it really has nothing to do with being a christian, my point was simply this, people not just this one cleric are publicly making hit lists and making threats towards americans everyday. We have two choices either run and hide like the Goverment suggested the cartoonist do, or show these arrogant extremists we are not going to be bullied just because they don't like what we say or do. It's to the point the Goverment says just go run and hide. That is truely pathetic. At the first sign of weakness or instability, anyone that has a problem with america will attack us or start killing us because we would rather hide, than stand our ground. what are we supposed to do when we run out of hiding places, and our Goverment is still too timid to protect its people?

msharmony's photo
Sat 09/18/10 01:35 AM

it really has nothing to do with being a christian, my point was simply this, people not just this one cleric are publicly making hit lists and making threats towards americans everyday. We have two choices either run and hide like the Goverment suggested the cartoonist do, or show these arrogant extremists we are not going to be bullied just because they don't like what we say or do. It's to the point the Goverment says just go run and hide. That is truely pathetic. At the first sign of weakness or instability, anyone that has a problem with america will attack us or start killing us because we would rather hide, than stand our ground. what are we supposed to do when we run out of hiding places, and our Goverment is still too timid to protect its people?



we have such people in all walks of life here in the USA. Whether they kill for a God, or for some concept of patriotism,,,and we cant see them just by knowing a label,,

we have to be aware and observant of the PEOPLE around us and not what faiths or race or political party they claim

joejealousy's photo
Sat 09/18/10 11:21 AM
To further prove my point, hypothetically speaking If i disagreed with someone for any trivial reason and I more or less ordered their death whether it be in a magazine or verbally in public, no one would advise my target to move and change their name. I would be brought up on charges, and convicted. I would most likely spend the rest of my life in prison. But, this guy happens to be a cleric and of the Muslim faith. So apparently, it would be a real bad idea, to hold him accountable like every other person in this world. hell, our troops tracked Sadaam Hussein all over the place until they pulled him out of a hole in the ground, and then turned him over to his own people just to be murdered, so why are we are going to walk on egg shells for this cleric? why don't we hold him to the same standards as everyone else, American or otherwise. It strikes me as odd. In my opinion, death threats are death threats, and murder is murder no matter what language it is in and no matter what faith it is for.

Dragoness's photo
Sat 09/18/10 11:33 AM
Considering that the "radical" Muslims are not representative of all Muslims the title of the thread is not accurate at all to the article.

People have had to go into hiding from Christian radicals too.

Lpdon's photo
Sat 09/18/10 12:18 PM
Edited by Lpdon on Sat 09/18/10 12:18 PM

Religon of Peace???I would think at least one Muslim would defend this woman and her right to free speach in America.Islam can keep on preaching that tolerance towards Muslims to Americans.Don't expect any from them.


The Seattle cartoonist whose artwork sparked the controversial "Everybody Draw Muhammad Day!" has gone into hiding at the advice of the FBI after being targeted by a radical Muslim cleric, according to the newspaper that published her comics.

Molly Norris has moved and changed her name, the Seattle Weekly said Wednesday, after U.S.-born Yemeni cleric Anwar al-Awlaki placed her on an execution hit list. Awlaki -- who has been linked to the botched Times Square bombing and cited as inspiration for the Fort Hood massacre and a plot by two New Jersey men to kill U.S. soldiers -- reportedly called Norris a "prime target" for assassination and that her "proper abode is hellfire."

"You may have noticed that Molly Norris' comic is not in the paper this week," Seattle Weekly Editor in Chief Mark Fefer wrote Wednesday. "That's because there is no more Molly."

"The gifted artist is alive and well, thankfully. But on the insistence of top security specialists at the FBI, she is, as they put it, 'going ghost': moving, changing her name, and essentially wiping away her identity. She is, in effect, being put into a witness-protection program -- except, as she notes, without the government picking up the tab," Fefer wrote.

Norris ignited a firestorm in April after drawing a satirical cartoon to protest the decision by cable television channel Comedy Central to cancel an episode of "South Park" over its depiction of the Prophet Muhammad in a bear suit.


Soon after, a fan page popped up on Facebook, but Norris wrote on her since-shuttered website that she had nothing to do with it.

"I did NOT 'declare' May 20 to be 'Everybody Draw Muhammad Day,'" she said, adding that her idea was satire that was "taken seriously, hijacked and made viral."

"I apologize to people of Muslim faith and ask that this 'day' be called off," she said.

The 27-year-old Facebook page creator -- a Canadian woman who asked not to be identified due to fears of reprisal -- told FoxNews.com in July that she was visited at her home by Royal Canadian Mounted Police officials who advised her to remove her page and not to talk to reporters.

"I'm scared," she said. "I'm scared that somebody might kill me."

Islam strictly prohibits the depiction of any prophet as blasphemous and the "Draw Muhammad" page led to Facebook being temporarily blocked in Pakistan and sparked angry street protests.

In July, English-language Al Qaeda magazine "Inspire" attributed an article to Awlaki, saying Norris "should be taken as a prime target of assassination."

"The large number of participants makes it easier for us because there are more targets to choose from in addition to the difficulty of the government offering all of them special protection," wrote Awlaki. "But even then our campaign should not be limited to only those who are active participants."

He warned that "assassinations, bombings and acts of arson" are all legitimate forms of revenge against the creators of blasphemous depictions of Muhammad.

"Now, with the defamation of Muhammad reaching the shores of America, I wonder whether the patriotic American Muslim will still have the audacity to claim that he enjoys the right to be a Muslim in America?" Awlaki wrote. "Does he understand that this right includes his duty to fight against those who blaspheme his Prophet?"

Awlaki invited Muslims worldwide to "stand up in defense" of Muhammad and for their efforts to "manifest in all appropriate" means.




I don't buy it, this reeks of the US Marshall's Service. If she is the possible target of an assassination, our Government has to protect her.

mightymoe's photo
Sat 09/18/10 12:19 PM

Considering that the "radical" Muslims are not representative of all Muslims the title of the thread is not accurate at all to the article.

People have had to go into hiding from Christian radicals too.

when? someone had to go into hiding because a christian was going to chop their head off? for a cartoon?

willing2's photo
Sat 09/18/10 12:20 PM
Death for some cartoons.

Now, that's a lil' radical.

What groups would call for that???

Are the folks who made the threats being investigated?

Prolly not on H's watch.

joejealousy's photo
Sat 09/18/10 12:26 PM
I couldn't agree more, but what do we do to those people that make threats of death, or make good of their threats? we hold them accountable. We don't just tell their targets,"hey, this person wants to kill you in the name of their god, so you had better run and hide".

msharmony's photo
Sat 09/18/10 12:28 PM

I couldn't agree more, but what do we do to those people that make threats of death, or make good of their threats? we hold them accountable. We don't just tell their targets,"hey, this person wants to kill you in the name of their god, so you had better run and hide".


arent threats of death protected under freedom of speech in america,,,?

mightymoe's photo
Sat 09/18/10 12:31 PM
how do we know if she is really in hiding? she may be already dead, and we would never know...

no photo
Sat 09/18/10 12:31 PM
and here I thought the Inquisition was a thing of the past..religious nut jobs..just gotta luv ém....

msharmony's photo
Sat 09/18/10 12:41 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sat 09/18/10 12:42 PM

and here I thought the Inquisition was a thing of the past..religious nut jobs..just gotta luv ém....


nutjobs make me sad,, whatever their justification,,

and the fact that they usually cant look in the mirror and face those same HARSH judgments they place upon others

Lpdon's photo
Sat 09/18/10 12:44 PM


I couldn't agree more, but what do we do to those people that make threats of death, or make good of their threats? we hold them accountable. We don't just tell their targets,"hey, this person wants to kill you in the name of their god, so you had better run and hide".


arent threats of death protected under freedom of speech in america,,,?


No, that interfears with the rights of someone else.

mightymoe's photo
Sat 09/18/10 12:45 PM


I couldn't agree more, but what do we do to those people that make threats of death, or make good of their threats? we hold them accountable. We don't just tell their targets,"hey, this person wants to kill you in the name of their god, so you had better run and hide".


arent threats of death protected under freedom of speech in america,,,?

threaten barry and see what happens....

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