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Topic: texans shoot back...
mightymoe's photo
Tue 09/14/10 09:45 AM
we don't play that crap in texas...:wink:

SAN ANTONIO -- U.S. Border Patrol agents fired gunshots into Mexico after coming under attack during a half-ton drug bust and giving chase to a truck along the Rio Grande, U.S. authorities said Monday.

No Border Patrol agents were hurt during the "fire fight" early Saturday in Mission, agency spokeswoman Rosalinda Huey said. She did not say whether Border Patrol gunfire hit anyone, citing the ongoing investigation.

"The firing they received came from the Mexican side," Huey said.

Huey said several Border Patrol agents, at least some of whom were patrolling in boats, were seizing a half-ton of marijuana when they came under gunfire. Federal officials said the shots from Mexico began when a truck that was being chased by another group of Border Patrol agents entered the area.

FBI special agent Jorge Cisneros said the truck, which was on the U.S. side, appeared to be connected to the drug seizure. He said the gunfire from Mexico was a "direct result" of Border Patrol agents doing their jobs.


Cisneros described the shootout as brief.

"We're obviously concerned with what happened, that they would be shooting from the Mexico side to us," Cisneros said.

Federal officials did not release how many agents were involved, how many shots were fired or the number of shooters on the Mexico side. Cisneros said the FBI was working with Mexico authorities, including the Mexican military and the Tamaulipas state police, to determine what happened.

It was at least the second time in three months that Border Patrol agents in Texas have fired into Mexico. In June, a Border Patrol agent fatally shot a 15-year-old Mexican boy after authorities say a group trying to illegally enter Texas threw rocks at officers near downtown El Paso.

Reports of bullets whizzing across the border from Mexico also are on the rise. At least eight bullets have been fired into El Paso in the last few weeks from the rising violence in Ciudad Juarez, Mexico, where drug violence has killed more than 4,000 people since 2009, making it one of the deadliest cities in the world.

Cisneros said he can recall a handful of times in the last few years that gunfire from Mexico has crossed over the border. He said Border Patrol agents "have always been very good about not shooting back unless there is a life-threatening situation."

Huey who would not say whether the agents involved in the shooting still were on patrol. She said agents are authorized to fire their weapons any time they feel lives are at risk, even into Mexico.

"As long as our agents feel their life is in danger, they are allowed lethal (force)," she said.


willing2's photo
Tue 09/14/10 10:00 AM
Man, that's really gonna' pisss off H.

Those agents will be lucky if he doesn't try having them arrested and prosecuted.

Dragoness's photo
Tue 09/14/10 10:06 AM
Not even.

I don't see the importance of the article?

Border patrol has been doing this whenever they needed to all along.

mightymoe's photo
Tue 09/14/10 10:08 AM
all this over weed too... kinda stupid, i think...

mightymoe's photo
Tue 09/14/10 10:23 AM

Man, that's really gonna' pisss off H.

Those agents will be lucky if he doesn't try having them arrested and prosecuted.


those two border agents that shot a smuggler a few years ago are still in prison... then they gave the illegal free passage to cross the border anytime he wants, and 6 months later he was caught smuggling again... go figure, huh...

willing2's photo
Tue 09/14/10 10:33 AM
Dead drug runners can't sue.smokin

Train Border Patrol to shoot better and offer bonuses for body counts.drinker

no photo
Tue 09/14/10 01:56 PM


Man, that's really gonna' pisss off H.

Those agents will be lucky if he doesn't try having them arrested and prosecuted.


those two border agents that shot a smuggler a few years ago are still in prison... then they gave the illegal free passage to cross the border anytime he wants, and 6 months later he was caught smuggling again... go figure, huh...


Ya, and that was Bush from Texas that had them sent to prison. Their names are Campean & Ramos.....they shot a drug smuggler and got sentenced to 12 years by Bush.

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 09/14/10 02:04 PM
I missed that in the news. Why were they sentenced and nothing done about the smuggler?

Lpdon's photo
Tue 09/14/10 03:23 PM
I know that F.B.I. and Secret Service Agents and qualify and carry fully automatic weapons including machine pistols. Sounds like that should be afforded to the Boarder Patrol Agents.

mightymoe's photo
Tue 09/14/10 05:20 PM

I missed that in the news. Why were they sentenced and nothing done about the smuggler?
they shot him in the back...they gave the smuggler free passage to the us... then they caught him running drugs 6 months later...

mightymoe's photo
Tue 09/14/10 05:21 PM



Man, that's really gonna' pisss off H.

Those agents will be lucky if he doesn't try having them arrested and prosecuted.


those two border agents that shot a smuggler a few years ago are still in prison... then they gave the illegal free passage to cross the border anytime he wants, and 6 months later he was caught smuggling again... go figure, huh...


Ya, and that was Bush from Texas that had them sent to prison. Their names are Campean & Ramos.....they shot a drug smuggler and got sentenced to 12 years by Bush.

yes. not one of bushes more glorifying moments,,,

mightymoe's photo
Tue 09/14/10 05:25 PM
oh, and BTW, the illegal was smuggling drugs when he was shot too...
but the government ignored that fact.....

MiddleEarthling's photo
Tue 09/14/10 06:18 PM
The US Border Control are a federal agency, not "Texans"...egads, proper spin eludes these people.

Crap, all that pot gone to waste...


mightymoe's photo
Tue 09/14/10 07:27 PM

The US Border Control are a federal agency, not "Texans"...egads, proper spin eludes these people.

Crap, all that pot gone to waste...


where are they from? china? where is federal at?

Lpdon's photo
Tue 09/14/10 07:46 PM
Who care's where they are from. The Boarder Patrol is by far out gunned. They need to carry military style weapons and equipment, and arm their Predators with missles ready to go if they are under fire.

The cartels have automatic weapons, grenades, RPG's, Missiles, Subs, Night Vision, and many other military equipment.

mightymoe's photo
Tue 09/14/10 07:55 PM

The US Border Control are a federal agency, not "Texans"...egads, proper spin eludes these people.

Crap, all that pot gone to waste...



and where do you see the word texan in there?

TonkaTruck3's photo
Tue 09/14/10 08:04 PM


Man, that's really gonna' pisss off H.

Those agents will be lucky if he doesn't try having them arrested and prosecuted.


those two border agents that shot a smuggler a few years ago are still in prison... then they gave the illegal free passage to cross the border anytime he wants, and 6 months later he was caught smuggling again... go figure, huh...
They were released, and they both recieved a full presidential pardon from Bush before he left office. They are free men today.

mightymoe's photo
Tue 09/14/10 08:06 PM



Man, that's really gonna' pisss off H.

Those agents will be lucky if he doesn't try having them arrested and prosecuted.


those two border agents that shot a smuggler a few years ago are still in prison... then they gave the illegal free passage to cross the border anytime he wants, and 6 months later he was caught smuggling again... go figure, huh...
They were released, and they both recieved a full presidential pardon from Bush before he left office. They are free men today.

good, glad to hear that...they never deserved to go to prison...

Lpdon's photo
Tue 09/14/10 08:48 PM




Man, that's really gonna' pisss off H.

Those agents will be lucky if he doesn't try having them arrested and prosecuted.


those two border agents that shot a smuggler a few years ago are still in prison... then they gave the illegal free passage to cross the border anytime he wants, and 6 months later he was caught smuggling again... go figure, huh...
They were released, and they both recieved a full presidential pardon from Bush before he left office. They are free men today.

good, glad to hear that...they never deserved to go to prison...


I believe they wen't to prison wile Perry was Governor anyways.

mightymoe's photo
Wed 09/15/10 12:48 AM





Man, that's really gonna' pisss off H.

Those agents will be lucky if he doesn't try having them arrested and prosecuted.


those two border agents that shot a smuggler a few years ago are still in prison... then they gave the illegal free passage to cross the border anytime he wants, and 6 months later he was caught smuggling again... go figure, huh...
They were released, and they both recieved a full presidential pardon from Bush before he left office. They are free men today.

good, glad to hear that...they never deserved to go to prison...


I believe they wen't to prison wile Perry was Governor anyways.

yea, and he is still governor too...grumble grumble

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