Topic: Illegal Immigration
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Tue 06/26/07 10:14 PM
British Columbia! It has all of the different climactic zones found on
the planet all in one province.

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Tue 06/26/07 10:15 PM
the okanagan.....only semi arrid desert in canada!!!! Its hot like
arizona here in the summer.

Fanta46's photo
Tue 06/26/07 10:16 PM
What about the winter?
Glaciers????laugh

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Tue 06/26/07 10:18 PM
its freaking freeeeeeeeezing!!!!! -27 at times but kid prolly gets
colder where he is.....he probably lives in a bigger igloo.:wink:
laugh

Fanta46's photo
Tue 06/26/07 10:24 PM
IGLOO!!!! Oh hell no!!!
Too Cold!!noway

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Tue 06/26/07 10:27 PM
I knowwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!! I hate it tooooooooo!!!!! But we have really
good food and not so much racism.flowerforyou

Fanta46's photo
Tue 06/26/07 10:28 PM
Yeah, but does it count when you only have one race crazy enough to live
in an Igloo???laugh

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Tue 06/26/07 10:44 PM
lol you are talking about the eskimoes....actually alot of them ar in
Alaska, which the USA owns....was canada at one time but we sold it for
a $1 and a big gulp!:wink: laugh drinker

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Tue 06/26/07 10:47 PM
Should have gotten a chili cheese dog too. Love those 7 Eleven chili
cheese dogs. bigsmile smokin

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Tue 06/26/07 10:48 PM
looks around.... what a mess !! hahahahhahahahaahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhaha

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Tue 06/26/07 10:49 PM
heheheeeeeeeeeeee blatant!!!!!drinker drinker drinker drinker


Ummmmmmm Im being bad here........I need to be spanked only 9 times with
baby powder!!!!!:wink: laugh laugh laugh laugh

Fanta46's photo
Tue 06/26/07 10:54 PM
laugh laugh laugh

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Tue 06/26/07 10:55 PM
and go sit in the naughty chair !!!! with Zap the two of ya outta be
shamed of yerself!! lmao!!!

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Tue 06/26/07 10:58 PM
hmmmm am I fighting the good ppl or bad ppl right now.......Im not sure
yet!!!!drinker drinker drinker drinker

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Tue 06/26/07 11:00 PM
mooooove overrrrrrrrrrr....scooches into the chair with the melted
m&m's in the corner....

want one????:wink: bigsmile

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Tue 06/26/07 11:02 PM
doctors orders????? OK!!!laugh laugh laugh

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Tue 06/26/07 11:04 PM
The border here in the southern Arizona desert is a cat-and-mouse
struggle, the Homeland Security Department says it has a smarter cat.
The Homeland Security Department is building nine towers with radar and
cameras to scan 28 miles of border Project 28, nine nearly 100-foot-tall
towers, is arrayed across 28 miles of Arizona desert with radar and
high-definition cameras.
It comes in the form of nine nearly 100-foot-tall towers with radar,
high-definition cameras and other equipment rising from the mesquite and
lava fields around this tiny town.

Known as Project 28, for the 28 miles of border that the towers will
scan, the so-called virtual fence forms the backbone of the Secure
Border Initiative, known as SBInet, a multibillion-dollar mix of
technology, manpower and fencing intended to control illegal border
crossings.

If successful, hundreds of such towers could dot the 6,000 miles of the
Mexican and Canadian borders.

But glitches with the radar and cameras have forced the project to miss
its June 13 starting date, just as Congress focuses anew on border
security in the Senate measure to overhaul immigration law.

Officials at the Homeland Security Department insist that Boeing, which
has a $67 million contract to develop the project and others, will soon
put it back on track, though they are not providing a new completion
date.

Boeing referred requests for comment to the department.

“We are making good progress,” the executive director of the border
program, Gregory Giddens, said.

Democrats in Congress are questioning why the problems were not
disclosed at a hearing on the project on June 7. It was only afterward,
in communication to Congressional staff members, that the delays came to
light.

“The department’s failure to be forthcoming and the repeatedly
slipping project deadlines not only impede Congress’ ability to
provide appropriate oversight of the SBInet program, but also undermine
the department’s credibility with respect to this initiative,”
Representatives Bennie G. Thompson of Mississippi, chairman of the House
Homeland Security Committee, and Loretta Sanchez of California,
chairwoman of a border subcommittee, both Democrats, wrote in a letter
on June 19 to the department.

In a report in February, the Government Accountability Office warned
that Congress needed to keep a tight rein on the program, because, it
said, “SBInet runs the risk of not delivering promised capabilities
and benefits on time and within budget.”

Officials estimate total cost of the initiative through 2011 at $7.6
billion. The accountability office has suggested that figure is too low.

Boeing won the contract, which includes $20 million for Project 28, in
September and has undertaken it with a sense of urgency, Mr. Giddens
said, adding that he would prefer a delay over starting the project with
malfunctioning equipment.

Rather than develop new technology, Boeing took existing cameras,
sensors, radar and other equipment and bundled them into a system that
although not technologically novel is unlike anything the Border Patrol
now uses.

The cameras, set off by radar, are to beam high-quality images of
targets miles away to field commanders and agents, making it possible to
determine almost instantly whether they are watching a family outing or
a group of illegal immigrants.

The information is to flow over a high-speed wireless network into
laptops in dozens of Border Patrol vehicles that, in theory, would
respond quicker and more efficiently to breaches than they do now.

“We are living the dividing line between the old Border Patrol and the
new patrol of the future,” said David Aguilar, chief of the Border
Patrol.

“It will not only detect, but identify what the incursion is,” Mr.
Aguilar added, a step up from the existing ground sensors, fence cameras
and footprint tracking that can lead to “false positives.”

With much of the 2,000-mile-long Mexican border a wilderness of plains,
plunging ravines and soaring craggy hills, officials consider virtual
fencing a pragmatic improvement to far-flung agents and physical fences
— 88 miles now have primary fencing — that illegal immigrants knock
down, bore through and slip over and under.

The towers are ringed with a six-foot-tall chain-link fence, and the
Border Patrol can warn people away through a loudspeaker. Private guards
are at the towers now.

On Thursday morning at a tower north of here, a reporter and a
photographer walked right up to the tower, observing and photographing
it for several minutes with no guard in sight.

Mr. Aguilar said he was not concerned about such access, speculating
that no threat was discerned or the cameras were not turned on then.

Residents near the towers have raised concerns, questioning why most
towers are miles from the border and whether they will allow
unscrupulous agents to peer into their bedrooms.

“We don’t live in clusters,” said Roger Beal, who runs a grocery
store in the isolated town of Arivaca, the site of a tower and about 10
miles from the border. “The homes here are not 10 feet apart. People
value their privacy here, and we are just not used to being observed. Do
it at the border. This isn’t it.”

Mr. Aguilar, the Border Patrol chief, said: “We are members of the
community. We recognize their sensitivity. But we feel confident our
officers are going to follow policy and common sense. Can I guarantee
you nothing is going to happen? No, we are all human.”

Although the towers are in a region with heavy traffic in smuggling,
Boeing chose to place them close to existing roads and away from the
most rugged terrain to help captures.

Mr. Aguilar said the towers did not need to be right on the border,
suggesting that traffickers would find it difficult to move their routes
undetected in the rough terrain even if they figured out the locations
of the towers. The expected locations have been published in a public
environmental assessment.

The virtual fence is one piece of a flurry of border enforcement. The
Border Patrol said it was on pace to hire thousands of agents, with the
goal of a total of 18,000 by the end of 2008, up from just under 12,000
in 2006, when President Bush announced the push.

In addition, officials expect to have 370 miles of physical fencing by
the end of next year. Drug seizures are increasing, and arrests for
illegal immigration have dropped since last summer, when the National
Guard arrived to supplement agents.

Though scholars say an array of factors, including economic and social
trends in Latin America and the vagaries of the drug trade could explain
the trends, Mr. Aguilar said they vindicated the stricter enforcement.

After the system is fully functioning, he said, “the net will be very,
very tight.”

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Wed 06/27/07 02:13 AM
fanta, you can call yourself half texan if you like, but that first part
half w.virginian will not be allowed, I am full blooded w. virginian.

Fanta46's photo
Wed 06/27/07 02:25 AM
My momma was from Hunington!drinker

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Wed 06/27/07 06:39 AM
for the individual who called me childish
you addressed something important the illegal people (my people I'm not
mexican though) should pay taxes, but how the heck they are going to do
it the hatred governmental mechanism is making them criminals.
These illegals work their asses of they wake up 4 am in the morning, and
they keep working till late in the evening, they are not lazy. I tell
you this because I have lived with them
Cuban people are lovely people I know a lot of them (gorgeous women as
well).
I agree with the fact that the government, if it can be called in that
way, has to stop people entering the country through the border.
However, they have to think beyond because this country still needs the
labor force. Therefore, they have to implement a policy that makes it
viable for them to apply for a work visa from their countries.
Now what are you going to do with 12 million people who are already
here. For me let them pay taxes make them legal. It is going to be way
more expensive deport them. However, just imagine the amount of money in
revenue that this country would get out of these people. We are talking
of hundreds of millions of dollars. In that way the bushy guy from
WAshington can keep funding the insanity out the in Iraq.
Furtheremore, this country should make more human international policies
with regard Central and South AMerican countries (including Mexico).
Policies in which they induce the generation of more business and works
in our countries.
Social policies to increase education and health care.
However, I agree that if the USA is going to put money there have to be
very careful, so the money goes where it has to go because the inmense
corruption down there.
North AMerican trade policies with Latin AMerican countries are really
unfair they buy raw material a ridiculous prices they bring it here and
they make final products and sell them back at outrageous prices. How in
the hell these little countries will grow and keep their people if big
daddy is being unfair.
COnclusion there has to be a better and more human way to do this.
And I still believe that "SOME" people use this immigration issue as a
tool to show their hate.

TLW