I have a friend who is Cherokee, he told me that first they took the
Cherokee land and sent them all to I believe Tennessee, where they
prospered then they took that and sent them down the trail of tears to
Oklahoma where they have done well again. He said it don't make any
difference how many times they take our land we will keep coming back, I
admire his tenacity. What was done to them and all Native Americans was
shabby indeed.

The Cherookee, peaceful??? I dont know if I could agree with that! They
ruled through war and conquest of neighboring tribes!
Highly intelligent and very proud, most definitely! They recognized and
adapted to the onslaught of the European invasion, adopting a Government
structure that was compatable to dealing with the Europeans, yet
maintaining their traditions!

They still scared the heck out of the whiteman though, as most were
afraid to venture into these hills.

They have changed a loy as the years have gone by. I saw in the link you
gave me that 5 yrs after your grandmothers death the Cherokee took away
the right of women to vote? That is different than their traditions.
What is up with that?
They also have race issues!! Rejecting citizenship to the
freeman???(descendants of mixed breed blacks?) Seems even they are not
immune from politics!!!

Your friend is correct...A major portion of Tennessee was Cherokee
land...Today...there is only one acre owned by the Cherokee...On it sits
a Museum...dedicated to many of the Cherokee that were important in our
history...you can walk out back down a trail...at the end of that trail
is a mound..in that mound are bodies that were moved from gravesites,
from when they built a dam in the 70's I believe, which put all the
Cherokee villages under water...
Yes...the tenacity is great

Doesn't mean anything to anyone but me, but my closest friend, Earl, who
is closer than a brother is nearly 100% Cherokee.

Thats one acre in Tennesse, right JJ? Qualla boundry is a lot bigger
than 1 acre!
The last of their land before the round up was in Northern GA. Wasnt it?

Ok Glen! Your right...I should have said the Cherokee women were
peaceful...a matriarchal society at one time...worked rather well....but
all good things must come to an end when the physically stronger of the
race decide to take over
As far as taking the right to vote from women...pretty obvious isn't it?
Feeling the need to adapt to new governmental policy to get along...Of
course with men at the helm
No they were far from being immune to politics unfortunately...
And looking at the other side of my family...my mothers side..her
parents 100% Cherokee...you can see that it was apparent that blacks
were integrated in alot of cases into the Cherokee tribes...

Zap, whew, you sure look pretty tonight!

Hey Grandpa!!! Congratulations!!!

Boy Glen, not sure of the Quallah thing, all I know is when visiting Red
Clay and the Museum I speak of...it was written that there was only one
acre in Tennessee legally held by the Cherokee..I know there are no
health facilities in Tennessee for the Cherokee...as I had to go to NC
to obtain medical help...

Thanks guys!

Your welcome Grandpa! Have ya got to hold that baby yet?

I love the Cherokee traditions. Its a shame they are forgetting. Maybe
they need you to come back and kick some arse? LMAO!!! REALLY!!!!
I just looked it up the land of the Qualla boundary is 57,000 acres. It
is not a reservation but a federal land trust area! Owned and governed
by the eastern band of the Cherokee! They still follow many of the
traditions, like marrying only from a different clan of the 7 clans!
While not really enforced they are only allowed to marry another
Cherokee! While they have individual land ownership, they can not sell
the land outside the tribe. Cherokee's only, Businesses can only employ
members of the tribe! They maintain tradition and purity of blood in
this way, more so than the western band!

Thanks Glen! Were yo speaking of my muscle?

I knew somebody would bite on that eventually pal!

No JJ, she is in Texas with the in-laws but will be coming home as soon
as Dad gets back from the big sand box. Can't just smooch Gle so here's
one for you too!


Oops, got carried away there.

illegal......legal........who makes up these laws???? Heh......this land
is your land this land is your land???? I'm not sure you know the
song!!!

Man! Sticking keys!

Thanks for the info Glen....my ability to google here not very
good...yeah I didn't think there was a reservation there....probably why
it didn't come up when seeking information on reservations of
Tennessee...I am of the Wolf Clan...originally they thought there were
14 clans...
Hey thanks...I appreciate it

Try this JJ!!

http://www.blueridgedigest.com/fall01/articles/cherokee.html

Gypsy you sing it sooo well!

my son is of the chilcotin tribe I had an aunt who was cree
as well.......geeeeez maybe we are all illegals according to "indian"
law!!!

Well I hope she get's to come home soon, so you can hold that baby...How
exciting for you

Thanks Glen! I'll check it out