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He seems to see things pretty clearly, actually. Perhaps you're the one who can't? i can see perfectly... better than most people Something must be clouding your vision, though. It shows here in this forum. 
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What does Paul know? Senility must be settin' in. Sure wouldn't want to see the likes of him overthrowing Hussein. no kidding... the guy is a loser What makes him a loser? |
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Just a friendly reminder to all!!!!!
Please do not direct your opinion towards each other. Stay within a debate form and direct opinions towards the Topic in hand..... Site Mod Kristi |
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Edited by
mightymoe
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Mon 08/30/10 07:22 AM
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The debate should have provided the conservative defenders of property rights with a perfect example of how the right to own property also protects the 1st Amendment rights of assembly and religion by supporting the building of the mosque. no one is saying they cant have a mosque, they want it somewhere else same crap everyone is saying... Instead, we hear lip service given to the property rights position while demanding that the need to be “sensitive” requires an all-out assault on the building of a mosque, several blocks from “ground zero.” it's 2 blocks... several implies more than 3
They never miss a chance to use hatred toward Muslims to rally support for the ill conceived preventative wars. A select quote from soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq expressing concern over the mosque is pure propaganda and an affront to their bravery and sacrifice. The nineteen suicide bombers didn’t come from Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan or Iran. Fifteen came from our ally Saudi Arabia, a country that harbors strong American resentment, yet we invade and occupy Iraq where no al Qaeda existed prior to 9/11. Many fellow conservatives say they understand the property rights and 1st Amendment issues and don’t want a legal ban on building the mosque. They just want everybody to be “sensitive” and force, through public pressure, cancellation of the mosque construction. This sentiment seems to confirm that Islam itself is to be made the issue, and radical religious Islamic views were the only reasons for 9/11. If it became known that 9/11 resulted in part from a desire to retaliate against what many Muslims saw as American aggression and occupation, the need to demonize Islam would be difficult if not impossible.
1% of a billion is still a million...
There is no doubt that a small portion of radical, angry Islamists do want to kill us but the question remains, what exactly motivates this hatred? If Islam is further discredited by making the building of the mosque the issue, then the false justification for our wars in the Middle East will continue to be acceptable. speculation, means nothing
The justification to ban the mosque is no more rational than banning a soccer field in the same place because all the suicide bombers loved to play soccer. It is repeatedly said that 64% of the people, after listening to the political demagogues, don’t want the mosque to be built. What would we do if 75% of the people insist that no more Catholic churches be built in New York City? The point being is that majorities can become oppressors of minority rights as well as individual dictators. Statistics of support is irrelevant when it comes to the purpose of government in a free society—protecting liberty. The House Speaker is now treading on a slippery slope by demanding a Congressional investigation to find out just who is funding the mosque—a bold rejection of property rights, 1st Amendment rights, and the Rule of Law—in order to look tough against Islam. the iman has said numerous times he will have all documents ready for inspection. more sensationalism... |
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no one is saying they cant have a mosque, they want it somewhere else
same crap everyone is saying... Is that really all they want? What about the mosque site in TN that was burned? That's far away from ground zero. thats just his veiw... most soldiers do not want it there.
How many soldiers have you spoken to about this? |
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no one is saying they cant have a mosque, they want it somewhere else
same crap everyone is saying... Is that really all they want? What about the mosque site in TN that was burned? That's far away from ground zero. thats just his veiw... most soldiers do not want it there.
How many soldiers have you spoken to about this? the mosque in TN was never burned.. it was just a couple of tractors and they haven't caught anyone yet, nor do they have a suspect...it could have been the muslims themselves for all anyone knows. every soldier i've talked to have said they do not want it there. i don't know the exact count, but you could ask soldiers yourself to get an accurate feedback. |
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Edited by
InvictusV
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Mon 08/30/10 08:03 AM
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Screw you neocon warmongers! HEY ... ! There's that good ol'-fashioned anti-Americanism we all love to see ... ! They never disappoint, do they ... ? You know who is anti-American? I'm gonna tell you who. The entire neoconservative party. It's been hijacked and used for nothing else but pre-emptive war across the globe for empire building. The party of hate and bigotry. It's also oxymoron to call them conservatives by any way. They are anything but conservatives. Here is a perfect quote for you: The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them. --George Orwell They are not conservatives. Their ideology stems from disaffected socialists and marxists like Irving Kristol. |
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no one is saying they cant have a mosque, they want it somewhere else
same crap everyone is saying... Is that really all they want? What about the mosque site in TN that was burned? That's far away from ground zero. thats just his veiw... most soldiers do not want it there.
How many soldiers have you spoken to about this? the mosque in TN was never burned.. it was just a couple of tractors and they haven't caught anyone yet, nor do they have a suspect...it could have been the muslims themselves for all anyone knows. every soldier i've talked to have said they do not want it there. i don't know the exact count, but you could ask soldiers yourself to get an accurate feedback. I never said a mosque in TN was burned. I said the site of one was. As for asking soldiers, you said that most soldiers do not want it at "ground zero." That suggests that you've talked to many, right? I was just curious as to how many you've talked to about it. |
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Edited by
willing2
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Mon 08/30/10 09:28 AM
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Dr Paul is finally catchin' on.
Tell the Left-wing extremists what they wanna' hear. If they bought Hussein, they'll buy anythang! 
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no one is saying they cant have a mosque, they want it somewhere else
same crap everyone is saying... Is that really all they want? What about the mosque site in TN that was burned? That's far away from ground zero. thats just his veiw... most soldiers do not want it there.
How many soldiers have you spoken to about this? the mosque in TN was never burned.. it was just a couple of tractors and they haven't caught anyone yet, nor do they have a suspect...it could have been the muslims themselves for all anyone knows. every soldier i've talked to have said they do not want it there. i don't know the exact count, but you could ask soldiers yourself to get an accurate feedback. I never said a mosque in TN was burned. I said the site of one was. As for asking soldiers, you said that most soldiers do not want it at "ground zero." That suggests that you've talked to many, right? I was just curious as to how many you've talked to about it. come on now sweet,, they didnt say they dont want it built, just not built near land apparently SACRED only to non muslims, who are apparently the only ones who suffered losses that day,,,, seperate but equal,,, let them have the mosque,,,,but only where WE say they should,,,,(sarcasm) some will never see through their bigotry,,but I do appreciate you trying to convince them otherwise,,, |
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Dr Paul is finally catchin' on. Tell the Left-wing extremists what they wanna' hear. If they bought Hussein, they'll buy anythang!
Ron Paul is catering to left wing extremists now? Nah. He just has some sense when others don't. Not much sense gets through to the hardcore right wingers, though. |
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no one is saying they cant have a mosque, they want it somewhere else
same crap everyone is saying... Is that really all they want? What about the mosque site in TN that was burned? That's far away from ground zero. thats just his veiw... most soldiers do not want it there.
How many soldiers have you spoken to about this? the mosque in TN was never burned.. it was just a couple of tractors and they haven't caught anyone yet, nor do they have a suspect...it could have been the muslims themselves for all anyone knows. every soldier i've talked to have said they do not want it there. i don't know the exact count, but you could ask soldiers yourself to get an accurate feedback. I never said a mosque in TN was burned. I said the site of one was. As for asking soldiers, you said that most soldiers do not want it at "ground zero." That suggests that you've talked to many, right? I was just curious as to how many you've talked to about it. come on now sweet,, they didnt say they dont want it built, just not built near land apparently SACRED only to non muslims, who are apparently the only ones who suffered losses that day,,,, seperate but equal,,, let them have the mosque,,,,but only where WE say they should,,,,(sarcasm) some will never see through their bigotry,,but I do appreciate you trying to convince them otherwise,,, No one can make them see things clearly. They're always going to find some other reason to be hateful. |
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no one is saying they cant have a mosque, they want it somewhere else
same crap everyone is saying... Is that really all they want? What about the mosque site in TN that was burned? That's far away from ground zero. thats just his veiw... most soldiers do not want it there.
How many soldiers have you spoken to about this? the mosque in TN was never burned.. it was just a couple of tractors and they haven't caught anyone yet, nor do they have a suspect...it could have been the muslims themselves for all anyone knows. every soldier i've talked to have said they do not want it there. i don't know the exact count, but you could ask soldiers yourself to get an accurate feedback. I never said a mosque in TN was burned. I said the site of one was. As for asking soldiers, you said that most soldiers do not want it at "ground zero." That suggests that you've talked to many, right? I was just curious as to how many you've talked to about it. come on now sweet,, they didnt say they dont want it built, just not built near land apparently SACRED only to non muslims, who are apparently the only ones who suffered losses that day,,,, seperate but equal,,, let them have the mosque,,,,but only where WE say they should,,,,(sarcasm) some will never see through their bigotry,,but I do appreciate you trying to convince them otherwise,,, Bigots. Those who disagree with or oppose the Lib Left-Winged Extremists. What next? Are those who oppose gonna' be called haters also by the Lib Left-Winged Extremists? Some of are confused as to who are being referred to as bigots. Name 'em or STFU, please! 
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no one is saying they cant have a mosque, they want it somewhere else
same crap everyone is saying... Is that really all they want? What about the mosque site in TN that was burned? That's far away from ground zero. thats just his veiw... most soldiers do not want it there.
How many soldiers have you spoken to about this? the mosque in TN was never burned.. it was just a couple of tractors and they haven't caught anyone yet, nor do they have a suspect...it could have been the muslims themselves for all anyone knows. every soldier i've talked to have said they do not want it there. i don't know the exact count, but you could ask soldiers yourself to get an accurate feedback. I never said a mosque in TN was burned. I said the site of one was. As for asking soldiers, you said that most soldiers do not want it at "ground zero." That suggests that you've talked to many, right? I was just curious as to how many you've talked to about it. come on now sweet,, they didnt say they dont want it built, just not built near land apparently SACRED only to non muslims, who are apparently the only ones who suffered losses that day,,,, seperate but equal,,, let them have the mosque,,,,but only where WE say they should,,,,(sarcasm) some will never see through their bigotry,,but I do appreciate you trying to convince them otherwise,,, Bigots. Those who disagree with or oppose the Lib Left-Winged Extremists. What next? Are those who oppose gonna' be called haters also by the Lib Left-Winged Extremists? Some of are confused as to who are being referred to as bigots. Name 'em or STFU, please!
lol,, if the shoe fits,,,however I didnt even point out who the bigots wre and I dont use or care about political 'labels' lib, conserv, right wing, left wing,,blah blah blah,,,who cares bigot:: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance read the threads and apply where appropriate,,, |
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bigot:: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance read the threads and apply where appropriate,,, Seems easy enough to do by just reading the posts here. No need to name names. |
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Edited by
willing2
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Mon 08/30/10 10:21 AM
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bigot:: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance read the threads and apply where appropriate,,, Seems easy enough to do by just reading the posts here. No need to name names. I am opposed to Muslim pedophile prophets and those who accept pedophile prophets as something holy and to be admired. Do Left-Wingers approve of pedophilia? |
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bigot:: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance read the threads and apply where appropriate,,, Seems easy enough to do by just reading the posts here. No need to name names. I am opposed to Muslim pedophile prophets and those who accept pedophile prophets as something holy and to be admired. Do Left-Wingers approve of pedophilia? Do right wingers approve of pedophilia in the Catholic church? Silly question, right? |
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bigot:: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance read the threads and apply where appropriate,,, Seems easy enough to do by just reading the posts here. No need to name names. I am opposed to Muslim pedophile prophets and those who accept pedophile prophets as something holy and to be admired. Do Left-Wingers approve of pedophilia? Do right wingers approve of pedophilia in the Catholic church? Silly question, right? You may think it's a silly question. I don't approve of pedophilia at any level and I am offended when Left-Wingers want to push Muslim, clap ridden pedophile prophets on us. It's nasty, obscene and evil from the pits of hell. |
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Edited by
singmesweet
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Mon 08/30/10 11:44 AM
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We could say the same of those who ignore what's happened in the past with the Catholic church. However, I won't assume that of everyone. What are you trying to say, though? That anyone who supports their right to build a mosque supports pedophilia? I'd like to think you're smarter than that. That's pretty out there and obviously not true. But, I'm guessing you're looking for reaction over anything else.
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We could say the same of those who ignore what's happened in the past with the Catholic church. However, I won't assume that of everyone. What are you trying to say, though? That anyone who supports their right to build a mosque supports pedophilia? I'd like to think you're smarter than that. That's pretty out there and obviously not true. But, I'm guessing you're looking for reaction over anything else. I won't stoop to insulting you as you do me and others. I'd get banned or reprimanded. Twistin' my words. Fact; Mohamed was a pedophile. He did lil' girls and boys. Muslims see him as a holy prophet. That puts them at condoning Pedophilia. They also actively pay for pre-pubescent children who they will take for wives. |
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