from a non-news related source:

http://freethoughtnation.com/contributing-writers/63-acharya-s/392-ground-zero-mosque-developer-el-gamal-a-muslim-brotherhood-front

Take it for what it's worth.

slamist organizations in the West are quick to label crimes as anti-Muslim hate crimes as part of their effort to make Muslims feel under attack and to paint themselves as Muslims’ protectors.

Immediately following the Fort Hood shooting, CAIR asked Muslims to respond by donating to it. “We need financial help to meet these crises and push back against those who seek to score political points off the Muslim community in the wake of the Fort Hood tragedy,” the fundraising pitch read. To no one’s surprise, an anti-Muslim backlash did not ensue.

Cutting through the propaganda requires understanding the ways in which crimes are misrepresented as hate crimes — and why.

There are two main culprits to consider:

a. Muslims who stage fake hate crimes and
b. Islamist organizations that seek to exploit them.


Why would anyone fabricate a hate crime against himself or his mosque??????????
The faker has an obvious political goal of demonstrating the supposed prejudice against Muslims.

Similar incidents recently unfolded overseas. A Muslim community leader in London reported that he had been kidnapped by members of the quasi-fascist British National Party; he also said that he had received death threats and his home had been firebombed.

His claim received widespread attention, causing him to boast, “I have got the whole UK Muslim community behind me now.” Later, he was arrested for faking the crime.

And the supposed Mosque burning in GA? The FBI investigated----because CAIR issued a statement saying that hate crimes were increasing because of a “vocal minority in our society promoting anti-Muslim bigotry. In that case, too, the police arrested a Muslim suspect.

Of the of 1.2 billion Muslims, how many are moderates? Why are they keeping quiet?

We wouldn't be having this thread posted nor would we be worrying about Islam and terrorists if it weren't for the lily white progressive left and their Faustian deal they made with Islam. They both hate America and western values and traditions. So they joined forces to destroy America.

Muslim extremists are playing by the same rules as O and his cronies.

Yes, the Muslims learned from the gays, and other fringe leftist organizations: Fake an incident and then scream "hate crime"! Just further evidence that Islam resembles an organized criminal syndicate rather than a religion.

Why is Obama in this topic again?

While it's true he said something about it, and maybe he shouldn't since it becomes a political issue, but still, it's not like Obama "and his cronies" are planning this all along. Obama has about as much to do with this as me or you.
He is not a "decider" like the former one, Bush who was just insane with his "God talks to me" crap.

allah talks to obama...

Beside the typical rumor making.....
You do know "Allah" it's the same Abrahamic God figure, others call him Yahweh?
They worship the same God as Christians and Jews..only the prophet of choice is different?

it's all the same crap... jews and muslims were part of the 7 tribes, and the bibles are almost identical. the muslims have it harder because the clerics make ridicules fatwas that make life miserable for everyone. it's like they are still in the 12th century.

Allah is not the same God, no matter what some Arab tells you.
Look up the Quoran, Allah insists that his people kill innocents to please him.

The Christian God says "Thou Shall Not Kill"....big difference there!!

oh come now,, where did Allah say kill innocents,,,?

this is no less or more accurate than claming God told people to kill in scripture because out of context

'Do not think that I have come to bring peace upon the earth. I have
come to bring not peace but the sword. (Matthew 10:34)

Joshua 6:20 So the people shouted, and the trumpets were blown. As soon as the people heard the sound of the trumpet, the people shouted a great shout, and the wall fell down flat, so that the people went up into the city, every man straight before him, and they captured the city. 21 Then they devoted all in the city to destruction, both men and women, young and old, oxen, sheep, and donkeys, with the edge of the sword.

Deuteronomy 20:16 However, in the cities of the nations the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. 17 Completely destroy [a] them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the LORD your God has commanded you. 18 Otherwise, they will teach you to follow all the detestable things they do in worshiping their gods, and you will sin against the LORD your God



we could find many examples like this, I debate often with anti christians over their context,,,,,

this could be christians SOMEDAY , being persecuted for such words in our religious teachings, being labeled as supporters of murder and violence because it is included in our book and in some cases asked of by our God


I will let God be the judge of my soul and of others and until then I will judge actions and words but not souls(ie, who is evil or not)

The Islamic Agenda And Its Blueprints

It was reported in The Times on Thursday January 17 2002 that the alleged British shoe bomber Richard Reid, a suspected agent of al-Qa'eda, managed to stay safe by deception.

The report said that one of his tricks was to hide his religious fanaticism by scavenging empty alcohol bottles (Muslims generally do not drink alcohol) and cigarette ends from rubbish bins to leave in his hotel rooms. Another was putting his passport through the washing machine to remove a Pakistani visa stamp that might have posed difficulties when he travelled to Israel.

Why would someone do what is a betrayal of his own belief system, and be deceptive about it? Was it his own idea? Is it what he was taught and, if so, by whom and why? Could it be part of the Islamic belief system?

To understand Richard Reid's behaviour one needs to have grasped the basics of Islamic teaching: its maxim is that Islam should dominate the world. Whatever means are required to achieve this objective will be used, including deception. Of course, if Richard Reid was part of an Islamic radical movement, he did not act alone.

Islam is socio-political

The majority of people hold the view that Islam is one of the world's major religions, but they know hardly anything about it. Since September 11 it has received a lot of media attention, and is portrayed as a peace-loving, peace-preaching religion. That may be true of many Muslims, but is it true of the ideology and doctrines of Islam itself?

Indeed, Islam is a religion but it would be most misleading to stop at that. The heart of Islamic teaching is that religion is not just a part of life, but life is a tiny part of religion. Thus everything in life is dominated by this religion. As such, Islam is a system. It is a socio-political, socio-religious, socio-economical, educational, legislative, judicial, and militaristic system garbed in religious terminology.

The Qur'an teaches that Muhammad was sent not only to all mankind but to the demonic world too, many of whom have submitted and become Muslims according to Sura 72 of the Qur'an.

His mission was universal, and with the declaration that 'the religion before Allah is Islam' (Sura 3.19), it was his mission not only to preach, but to change the existing society into an Islamic society governed by the revealed laws of Allah, ‘the Shari'ah’, and also by his personal example, known in Islam as Sunnah (sometimes spelt Sunna).

Leaders agree

As such, Islam grants radical Muslims a mandate. It is a mandate to change the existing society into an Islamic society. This isn't about building a few mosques for the needs of Muslim congregations, or schools, or a few cultural centres. It is to make Islam supreme, and thus dominate every aspect of society. This is not only the desire of fundamentalists like Osama bin Laden, but, from their teaching, preaching and publications, would seem to be the desire of a large number of Muslims all over the world.

One such document, authored by Khurram Murad as far as back as 1980, was entitled The Islamic Movement in the West. The late Khurram Murad was then the head of the Islamic Foundation with branches around the world. He outlined his Islamic revolution and the blueprint of how to bring it about in the West.

On page three of his document he posed the question: ‘What is an Islamic movement?’ He goes on to answer: ‘An Islamic movement is an organised struggle to change the existing society into an Islamic society based on the Qur'an and the Sunna, and make Islam, which is a code for en-tire life, supreme and dominant, especially in the socio-political spheres.’

Further he says: ‘The idea of the Islamic movement is inherent in the very nature of Islam.’ The chilling fact is made clearer by saying: ‘It is not necessary to give any arguments about this here but innumerable Qur'anic verses amply bear it out, like those laying down the concepts and objectives of Jihad.’

You can find some of the Qur'anic verses that Murad quotes: Sura 9.19-21, 40; Sura 48.28; Sura 2.216 says: ‘Fighting is prescribed upon you, and you dislike it, but it is possible that you dislike a thing which is good for you, that you love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knows and you know not.’

Well, they do know where the money is coming from:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-august-23-2010/the-parent-company-trap

how is collecting bottles and butts tantamount to 'Why would someone do what is a betrayal of his own belief system'


if he had been DRINKING that would be different, he did nothing that went against his religion ,, he just did things to make people THINK he had ,,,

'Political Theater' and 'AgitProp' are great little tools direct from the Marxist School of Persuasion to play mind games with the 'sheeple'... they'll believe whatever they 'see' and 'hear' and 'think', 'cuz surely no one would LIE about things like this ... It's worked ever since the '17 Revolution, and people are still dumber than a sack of hammers, so it'll be workin' indefinitely into the future ...

"Who controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past."

the medias biggest weapon is lying through omission


they report the most sensational and edit out the ordinary and logical explanations,,,

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That's how Hussein got elected by da' sheeple.

You think only "arabs" are Muslims? Or all Muslims are arabs?


They don't look Arab to me and yet they are Muslims and also Europeans:



Guess their nationality.

look at the old testament... it's almost word for word with the quran and Torah

its not a mosque. its a rec center/pre school/ and its 3 blocks from ground zero.

even republican ron paul doesnt think its a big deal.