Don't you think?

Nope, because I am one of them!

Don't you want a virgin too?.....

Not really....I'm tired of teaching everything all over again and the whole (pun intended) idea about the crimping tool feeling gets old.

I'll say it right here because it needs to be said -- there are no women on dating sites who don't have kids and don't want kids. None. Ever. Period. The end. Oh, except for the four of them who are 81,993,037,936,209,663.8 miles away from me.

Nope - I don't think there is a lack of .....

I am single, never married, without kids. (nor do I want kids )

There's one now. There are three more in the universe!

You're a special case. Already considered if ever moving to Calif.

I think we're actually looking at something of a stacked deck here.

It's been my experience that a lot of people don't feel the need to "resort" to dating sites until after they've been through some relationships -- by which time, they've already been married, have kids, etc.

I don't have any demographic studies in front of me, but I'm guessing the average age of women on dating sites is somewhat higher than the average age of a woman at her first childbirth. I say this because I see almost no women without kids on here -- even the 19-year-olds have three kids (AND THEY ARE MY WORLD!) -- leading me to believe that maybe those without kids (assuming they exist, which is by no means a given at this point) have other options for meeting people in the real world.

What she said!

Unless she is a nerdy geek, which is a plus in my book.

Same with guys though. Never married and no baggage at all, you find them in the clubs at Friday Night. I have been going out for a few weeks now, I see the same game played over and over again between guys vs. girls. I feel old being there...guys in their 20s and women in their 20s..I don't mind the girls, but I am unable to act like a 20 something year old guy.

Unfortunately, trying to find women in my age group (30-35) - with no kids and never married is like trying to find an albino giraffe in Manhattan. Early 20 to mid 20s, they are around and plenty of them, but it's either them calling me old or I'm calling them immature. I think I missed my connecting flight somewhere and I'm like Alice in Wonderlands.
My only chance is to gain wealth and play the dollar poppa.

Same here, I love that type! They haven't evolved in Indianastan yet, though.



I can't really speak to that, as I don't go to bars and clubs and would have no interest in anyone who did.



My problem is a little different -- I've always gotten along well with the younger ones; there just aren't any of them around here, as far as I can tell.

By the time they get into their 30s, in my experience, the priorities are babies and booze, neither of which I have any use for.



Agreed. If I ever get rich writing books, I'll start hiring "personal assistants."

I tried to figure out before "what is it" that makes a club a meat market.

Then I compared several different ones, and I came up that it's not really about the age, but more of the noise level and the amount of people rubbing against each other, whether they want to or not.

The other thing is alcohol, since it makes people more brave as well as the idea of dancing to a certain music, which would require you to have a female counterpart who is willing to be front of you from a few inches, regardless if she has never seen you or talked to you before.

It's really about invading each others' bubble, dictated by an artficially created "personal bubble-invader" environment.

So basically, the whole "club scene" is about taking down the personal safety barriers, because "it's just the place to do it".

Funny thing is, if there aren't too many people there and there isn't a squeeze to get in and there aren't many dancing, the whole effect is gone.
Same with the sitting in a bar with a beer and looking at a woman who is buying a drink also, but she isn't buying the drink because she is thirsty, but the whole idea of "buying a drink" while guys are sitting beside the bar stand.

I know, I over analyze everything, but this is how I am.

sorry, not hip to the jive here...

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I imagine the older we get, the fewer childless and never married people we will find in our own age group

This is why I usually date only women between 18 and 25.

Same here, only it's getting harder and harder to find even a younger one who doesn't have kids.

whatever works ,,,,

Try doing your fishing in another spot. A collage bar prehaps?