Topic: New York Mosque Feed's Jihadists' Fire
msharmony's photo
Sun 08/29/10 12:55 AM




it's funny you bash the quran and Islam's laws itself...it's a direct reflection of everything that was Judiasm. In fact there's more violence in the Old testament than the quran and hadiths combined. Terrorists do not follow Islam, but who said americans were educated.


Ummmmm I don't remember reading about a Pedophile in the bible. Just sayin'.



Numbers 31: 17-18



17. Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

18. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.



in religious writings, people can find examples of anything to prove or disprove their point



That doesn't answer my question. Besides that is nothing compared to the Pedophile Mohummad who had a child bride (6 years old) and banged her before her 10th birthday and he was over 50.



umm, it answers the question about pedophiles in the bible,,,,

msharmony's photo
Sun 08/29/10 01:00 AM




it's funny you bash the quran and Islam's laws itself...it's a direct reflection of everything that was Judiasm. In fact there's more violence in the Old testament than the quran and hadiths combined. Terrorists do not follow Islam, but who said americans were educated.


Ummmmm I don't remember reading about a Pedophile in the bible. Just sayin'.


first of all genius, a pedophile is someone who preys and is sexually attracted to children and children alone. Aisha, was just one bride that was of under the age of 16. Besides, the age of Aisha didn't concern anyone as it was the custom of that era to be married off at a young age. Mary , mother of Jesus, was only 12 when she married Joseph who was 45 as was many other jewish women at that era.
if you want to talk pedophiles, take a look at your own religion LP as many priests daily are being outed for this...and with BOYS at that!
second, i can point out many instances in YOUR book where your people engaged in not only pedophilia but homosexual and beastial acts so don't come at me with this garbage.


A pedophile is someone who enteres into a relationship with a child. Oh and by the way, you have no idea what my religion even if I have one.



there need not be a relationship anymore than there needs to be a relationship to be a hetero or homosexual

it is about a preference,,,in the case of pedophilia, a preference/attraction to pre pubescent children

Lpdon's photo
Sun 08/29/10 02:21 AM

Islam = what a crack up!!


There is absolutely nothing funny about Islam.

TarzanLikeJane's photo
Sun 08/29/10 02:51 AM
here's the funny part guys, if we let them build the mosque, the terrorists will hate us because there was controversy, if we don't let them build it, we will be stomping on all of the American forefathers dreams of a new world where we could be free to express our own beliefs, and once again the terrorists would still hate all of us westerners, so its one of these cases where your damned if you do, damned if you don't. SO WHO CARES WHAT THEY THINK, in the western world we celebrate the freedom to say what ever we want, so let them say what they want, let them scorn us for thinking that we are sinners, IT DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO LISTEN, we also have the freedom to plug our ears when we hear things we don't like, this debate is just a joke, and a total waste of time

mightymoe's photo
Sun 08/29/10 04:54 AM

here's the funny part guys, if we let them build the mosque, the terrorists will hate us because there was controversy, if we don't let them build it, we will be stomping on all of the American forefathers dreams of a new world where we could be free to express our own beliefs, and once again the terrorists would still hate all of us westerners, so its one of these cases where your damned if you do, damned if you don't. SO WHO CARES WHAT THEY THINK, in the western world we celebrate the freedom to say what ever we want, so let them say what they want, let them scorn us for thinking that we are sinners, IT DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO LISTEN, we also have the freedom to plug our ears when we hear things we don't like, this debate is just a joke, and a total waste of time


lol... like most of the other posts in here are any less of a waste of time
laugh laugh laugh

willing2's photo
Sun 08/29/10 07:22 AM





it's funny you bash the quran and Islam's laws itself...it's a direct reflection of everything that was Judiasm. In fact there's more violence in the Old testament than the quran and hadiths combined. Terrorists do not follow Islam, but who said americans were educated.


Ummmmm I don't remember reading about a Pedophile in the bible. Just sayin'.


first of all genius, a pedophile is someone who preys and is sexually attracted to children and children alone. Aisha, was just one bride that was of under the age of 16. Besides, the age of Aisha didn't concern anyone as it was the custom of that era to be married off at a young age. Mary , mother of Jesus, was only 12 when she married Joseph who was 45 as was many other jewish women at that era.
if you want to talk pedophiles, take a look at your own religion LP as many priests daily are being outed for this...and with BOYS at that!
second, i can point out many instances in YOUR book where your people engaged in not only pedophilia but homosexual and beastial acts so don't come at me with this garbage.


A pedophile is someone who enteres into a relationship with a child. Oh and by the way, you have no idea what my religion even if I have one.



there need not be a relationship anymore than there needs to be a relationship to be a hetero or homosexual

it is about a preference,,,in the case of pedophilia, a preference/attraction to pre pubescent children

drinker
Mohamed loved his pre-pube boys to.

msharmony's photo
Sun 08/29/10 08:43 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 08/29/10 08:52 AM






it's funny you bash the quran and Islam's laws itself...it's a direct reflection of everything that was Judiasm. In fact there's more violence in the Old testament than the quran and hadiths combined. Terrorists do not follow Islam, but who said americans were educated.


Ummmmm I don't remember reading about a Pedophile in the bible. Just sayin'.


first of all genius, a pedophile is someone who preys and is sexually attracted to children and children alone. Aisha, was just one bride that was of under the age of 16. Besides, the age of Aisha didn't concern anyone as it was the custom of that era to be married off at a young age. Mary , mother of Jesus, was only 12 when she married Joseph who was 45 as was many other jewish women at that era.
if you want to talk pedophiles, take a look at your own religion LP as many priests daily are being outed for this...and with BOYS at that!
second, i can point out many instances in YOUR book where your people engaged in not only pedophilia but homosexual and beastial acts so don't come at me with this garbage.


A pedophile is someone who enteres into a relationship with a child. Oh and by the way, you have no idea what my religion even if I have one.



there need not be a relationship anymore than there needs to be a relationship to be a hetero or homosexual

it is about a preference,,,in the case of pedophilia, a preference/attraction to pre pubescent children

drinker
Mohamed loved his pre-pube boys to.



anti christians claim God loved to kill,,,yet I oppose violence and am a christian,,,,,go figure,,,,

couid it be the PROPHET that non muslims think is a pedophile , and his marriage to a child does NOT mean that muslims believe in or support or worship pedophilia?...

why do christians imagine christ himself did not CONDEMN those who were adhering to mosaic law and support their deaths ?

werent all those in the old testament just as deserving of the heinous things people are wishing upon muslims(they were doing the same things,...)

Jesus himself did not behave so about those actions then, why would christians do so now,,,?

yes, its barbaric to us and yes we have stopped adhering to it, but if there is a group of people AGREEING to abide by it,,why is it our business as christians to oppose what is itself in the bible as law

I dont agree with violence at all, dont get me wrong, but as a christian I cant blindly condemn people for their attempts to go by biblical law IF that is what their faith believes

the bible says cast the first stone,,, and I am opposed to stoning,,yet does that mean I have christian perogative to condemn over a BILLION people without being guilty of casting stones myself?


jesus said love your neighbor, are those who choose hate sinning and did the bible say anywhere that that type of hate is any more or less of a sin than stoning(which the bible never actually called a sin at all)

willing2's photo
Sun 08/29/10 08:55 AM







it's funny you bash the quran and Islam's laws itself...it's a direct reflection of everything that was Judiasm. In fact there's more violence in the Old testament than the quran and hadiths combined. Terrorists do not follow Islam, but who said americans were educated.


Ummmmm I don't remember reading about a Pedophile in the bible. Just sayin'.


first of all genius, a pedophile is someone who preys and is sexually attracted to children and children alone. Aisha, was just one bride that was of under the age of 16. Besides, the age of Aisha didn't concern anyone as it was the custom of that era to be married off at a young age. Mary , mother of Jesus, was only 12 when she married Joseph who was 45 as was many other jewish women at that era.
if you want to talk pedophiles, take a look at your own religion LP as many priests daily are being outed for this...and with BOYS at that!
second, i can point out many instances in YOUR book where your people engaged in not only pedophilia but homosexual and beastial acts so don't come at me with this garbage.


A pedophile is someone who enteres into a relationship with a child. Oh and by the way, you have no idea what my religion even if I have one.



there need not be a relationship anymore than there needs to be a relationship to be a hetero or homosexual

it is about a preference,,,in the case of pedophilia, a preference/attraction to pre pubescent children

drinker
Mohamed loved his pre-pube boys to.



anti christians claim God loved to kill,,,yet I oppose violence and am a christian,,,,,go figure,,,,

couid it be the PROPHET that non muslims think is a pedophile , and his marriage to a child does NOT mean that muslims believe in or support or worship pedophilia?...

why do christians imagine christ himself did not CONDEMN those who were adhering to mosaic law and support their deaths ?

werent all those in the old testament just as deserving of the heinous things people are wishing upon muslims(they were doing the same things,...)

Jesus himself did not behave so about those actions then, why would christians do so now,,,?

yes, its barbaric to us and yes we have stopped adhering to it, but if there is a group of people AGREEING to abide by it,,why is it our business as christians to oppose what is itself in the bible as law

I dont agree with violence at all, dont get me wrong, but as a christian I cant blindly condemn people for their attempts to go by biblical law IF that is what their faith believes

the bible says cast the first stone,,, and I am opposed to stoning,,yet does that mean I have christian perogative to condemn over a BILLION people without being guilty of casting stones myself?

As if it ain't enough that Muslims fall all over a pedophile prophet, Muslim men marrying pre-pubescent children is going on and is being supported by Muslims.

Show me where a Muslim condemns marrying babies.

July 31, 2009, - 7:40 pm
The HAMAS marries 450 Child Brides Video of the Day
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/5787/the-hamas-marries-450-child-brides-video-of-the-dayb/

By Debbie Schlussel

I’ve written about this before–in 2005, when HAMAS had only 200 child brides. When the Moonies have a mass wedding, at least everyone getting betrothed is an adult. When HAMAS does it, well . . . .

Yes, I know that occasionally HAMAS uses children with more make-up than Jon-Benet Ramsey and Anna Nicole Smith combined as stand ins for their adult brides. You know–because seeing a grown woman might cause them thoughts and actions beyond their control . . . like rape. But, as we also know, Muslims frequently forcibly marry young girls and essentially commit Islamo-legalized child molestation and rape. But we don’t know which, exactly, is the case here. And either way, it says a lot–not just about HAMAS, but about Islam period.

no photo
Sun 08/29/10 08:56 AM
Edited by Kings_Knight on Sun 08/29/10 08:58 AM

Believing Faux News Channel with pickle your brain.

It is very bad for people, they should look away.


Yeah. That Keith Olbermann guy is SO much more knowledgeable and smarter 'n stuff. Then there's that really unbiased Chris Matthews and the 'thrill' he gets up his leg when 'The UN' speaks ... can't ask for more 'objectivity' than that, huh ... ? We should all get our 'news' from DailyKOS and 'Democratic Underground' and then we'd be SO much more 'informed' ... we'd have SO much Kool-Aid® we'd NEVER get thirsty for unbiased reporting ...

Sad, really ... leading the horse to water and waiting 'til it wants to drink is all y' can do sometimes ...

willing2's photo
Sun 08/29/10 09:02 AM


Believing Faux News Channel with pickle your brain.

It is very bad for people, they should look away.


Yeah. That Keith Olbermann guy is SO much more knowledgeable and smarter 'n stuff. Then there's that really unbiased Chris Matthews and the 'thrill' he gets up his leg when 'The UN' speaks ... can't ask for more 'objectivity' than that, huh ... ? We should all get our 'news' from DailyKOS and 'Democratic Underground' and then we'd be SO much more 'informed' ... we'd have SO much Kool-Aid® we'd NEVER get thirsty for unbiased reporting ...

Sad, really ... leading the horse to water and waiting 'til it wants to drink is all y' can do sometimes ...


That dude Madcow isn't biased much or is that much biased?

msharmony's photo
Sun 08/29/10 09:05 AM








it's funny you bash the quran and Islam's laws itself...it's a direct reflection of everything that was Judiasm. In fact there's more violence in the Old testament than the quran and hadiths combined. Terrorists do not follow Islam, but who said americans were educated.


Ummmmm I don't remember reading about a Pedophile in the bible. Just sayin'.


first of all genius, a pedophile is someone who preys and is sexually attracted to children and children alone. Aisha, was just one bride that was of under the age of 16. Besides, the age of Aisha didn't concern anyone as it was the custom of that era to be married off at a young age. Mary , mother of Jesus, was only 12 when she married Joseph who was 45 as was many other jewish women at that era.
if you want to talk pedophiles, take a look at your own religion LP as many priests daily are being outed for this...and with BOYS at that!
second, i can point out many instances in YOUR book where your people engaged in not only pedophilia but homosexual and beastial acts so don't come at me with this garbage.


A pedophile is someone who enteres into a relationship with a child. Oh and by the way, you have no idea what my religion even if I have one.



there need not be a relationship anymore than there needs to be a relationship to be a hetero or homosexual

it is about a preference,,,in the case of pedophilia, a preference/attraction to pre pubescent children

drinker
Mohamed loved his pre-pube boys to.



anti christians claim God loved to kill,,,yet I oppose violence and am a christian,,,,,go figure,,,,

couid it be the PROPHET that non muslims think is a pedophile , and his marriage to a child does NOT mean that muslims believe in or support or worship pedophilia?...

why do christians imagine christ himself did not CONDEMN those who were adhering to mosaic law and support their deaths ?

werent all those in the old testament just as deserving of the heinous things people are wishing upon muslims(they were doing the same things,...)

Jesus himself did not behave so about those actions then, why would christians do so now,,,?

yes, its barbaric to us and yes we have stopped adhering to it, but if there is a group of people AGREEING to abide by it,,why is it our business as christians to oppose what is itself in the bible as law

I dont agree with violence at all, dont get me wrong, but as a christian I cant blindly condemn people for their attempts to go by biblical law IF that is what their faith believes

the bible says cast the first stone,,, and I am opposed to stoning,,yet does that mean I have christian perogative to condemn over a BILLION people without being guilty of casting stones myself?

As if it ain't enough that Muslims fall all over a pedophile prophet, Muslim men marrying pre-pubescent children is going on and is being supported by Muslims.

Show me where a Muslim condemns marrying babies.

July 31, 2009, - 7:40 pm
The HAMAS marries 450 Child Brides Video of the Day
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/5787/the-hamas-marries-450-child-brides-video-of-the-dayb/

By Debbie Schlussel

I’ve written about this before–in 2005, when HAMAS had only 200 child brides. When the Moonies have a mass wedding, at least everyone getting betrothed is an adult. When HAMAS does it, well . . . .

Yes, I know that occasionally HAMAS uses children with more make-up than Jon-Benet Ramsey and Anna Nicole Smith combined as stand ins for their adult brides. You know–because seeing a grown woman might cause them thoughts and actions beyond their control . . . like rape. But, as we also know, Muslims frequently forcibly marry young girls and essentially commit Islamo-legalized child molestation and rape. But we don’t know which, exactly, is the case here. And either way, it says a lot–not just about HAMAS, but about Islam period.



I get so sick of the holier than thou tit for tat

so I will make it short

I could claim that the MAJORITY of catholics dont (publicly) support or condemn pedophilia either,,but I would be digressing and just repeating a point other holier than thou types REFUSE to aknowledge

but here is one website from some muslims who dont 'embrace' pedophilia, and guess which religious writing THEY use to nit pick at as 'proof' that christians(obviously) do

its a game for those of false pride and hateful hearts,,,



no photo
Sun 08/29/10 09:07 AM

" ... its a game for those of false pride and hateful hearts,,, "


Oooooooooooh, that's a GOOD one ...

msharmony's photo
Sun 08/29/10 09:16 AM
thanx hansel..lol

willing2's photo
Sun 08/29/10 09:43 AM


but here is one website from some muslims who dont 'embrace' pedophilia, and guess which religious writing THEY use to nit pick at as 'proof' that christians(obviously) do

How, is being against pedophilia holier than thou????

You was gonna' give a link to a blogsite?

How many does it take to cr5eate a blogsite?

1 person. So, out of all the billions of pedophile worshipers ya' have maybe three or four who wouldn't rape a child.

Dragoness's photo
Sun 08/29/10 09:43 AM
Edited by Dragoness on Sun 08/29/10 09:45 AM


Believing Faux News Channel with pickle your brain.

It is very bad for people, they should look away.


Yeah. That Keith Olbermann guy is SO much more knowledgeable and smarter 'n stuff. Then there's that really unbiased Chris Matthews and the 'thrill' he gets up his leg when 'The UN' speaks ... can't ask for more 'objectivity' than that, huh ... ? We should all get our 'news' from DailyKOS and 'Democratic Underground' and then we'd be SO much more 'informed' ... we'd have SO much Kool-Aid® we'd NEVER get thirsty for unbiased reporting ...

Sad, really ... leading the horse to water and waiting 'til it wants to drink is all y' can do sometimes ...



I don't watch Olberman or Matthews so I can't speak on them nor Daily kos or Democratic underground either for that matter

But I do understand leading people to knowledge and well you know the rest.

msharmony's photo
Sun 08/29/10 09:54 AM



but here is one website from some muslims who dont 'embrace' pedophilia, and guess which religious writing THEY use to nit pick at as 'proof' that christians(obviously) do

How, is being against pedophilia holier than thou????

You was gonna' give a link to a blogsite?

How many does it take to cr5eate a blogsite?

1 person. So, out of all the billions of pedophile worshipers ya' have maybe three or four who wouldn't rape a child.



http://www.answering-christianity.com/age3.htm
muslims who dont condone pedophilia

and

http://islamgreatreligion.wordpress.com/2009/05/31/was-muhammad-a-pedophile-an-examination-of-muhammads-relationship-with-a-nine-year-old-girl/


muslims who DONT BELIEVE Muhammed had sex with a minor and was therefore not a pedophile

claiming people in one religion are more or less 'against' it than another is a holier than thou attitude

examples of heinous acts can be found in ANY religious book being done by both prophets and God, and people always overlook what their own book might imply to others while convincing themself that they are experts in what someone elses book means to them,,,

s1owhand's photo
Sun 08/29/10 10:17 AM
Edited by s1owhand on Sun 08/29/10 10:36 AM
To get back to the original topic. I do not think that the whole ground
zero mosque controversy will fuel jihadists fire - but it might help to
extinguish it.

Sure there are some ugly slurs coming out. But the majority of americans
and the majority of muslims are for religious tolerance and mutual respect.

It definitely is going to hurt the muslim community to address the pain
that americans are feeling so acutely about 9/11. But it merely shows
how far we are from really healing the deep wounds of this unprecendented
massacre of innocent people.

Unfortunately many americans feel that the american islamic community
has not done enough to repudiate the radical elements in this country
and others. Not enough voices have risen to condemn attacks on israeli
civilians or to support our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Not enough muslims have answered the call to publicly debate the
offensive and self-destructive imams who issue death fatwas to
cartoonists and stoning sentences to women. Where are the public
debates? Where are those american muslims who abhor rocket firings
from Gaza into playgrounds?

Where are the muslims who confront the hate-textbooks issued to
schoolchildren in the name of islam?

As unfortunate as the situation is - and I do support their "right" to
build a mosque anywhere they choose - I do not support the decision
to place a large islamic center next to the gravesite. I think it is
unseemly and counterproductive under the circumstances. But I believe
the american muslim community and the moderate and faithful peaceful
muslims will eventually be heard. It will largely be their voices who
will ultimately help destroy the jihadist radical islamist false
narrative.

And the ground zero mosque controversy shines a light of intensity
on the problem which cannot be ignored. Someone will stand MLK like
or Ghandi like and lead. And it will be beautiful when it happens....

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6430933n&tag=related;photovideo

Go ahead. address the original topic if you dare....

no photo
Sun 08/29/10 10:25 AM



Believing Faux News Channel with pickle your brain.

It is very bad for people, they should look away.


Yeah. That Keith Olbermann guy is SO much more knowledgeable and smarter 'n stuff. Then there's that really unbiased Chris Matthews and the 'thrill' he gets up his leg when 'The UN' speaks ... can't ask for more 'objectivity' than that, huh ... ? We should all get our 'news' from DailyKOS and 'Democratic Underground' and then we'd be SO much more 'informed' ... we'd have SO much Kool-Aid® we'd NEVER get thirsty for unbiased reporting ...

Sad, really ... leading the horse to water and waiting 'til it wants to drink is all y' can do sometimes ...



I don't watch Olberman or Matthews so I can't speak on them nor Daily kos or Democratic underground either for that matter

But I do understand leading people to knowledge and well you know the rest.


Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight ... that's why the responses mirror their programming directives ... unh-huh ... I believe that ... whatever you say ... I was born yesterday ... tell me more ... I'll believe it ... promise ... just like I believe Olbermann 'n Madcow 'n Franken 'n Gore 'n Salon 'n Slate 'n HuffPo 'n ... well, you know the rest ...

msharmony's photo
Mon 08/30/10 01:05 AM




Believing Faux News Channel with pickle your brain.

It is very bad for people, they should look away.


Yeah. That Keith Olbermann guy is SO much more knowledgeable and smarter 'n stuff. Then there's that really unbiased Chris Matthews and the 'thrill' he gets up his leg when 'The UN' speaks ... can't ask for more 'objectivity' than that, huh ... ? We should all get our 'news' from DailyKOS and 'Democratic Underground' and then we'd be SO much more 'informed' ... we'd have SO much Kool-Aid® we'd NEVER get thirsty for unbiased reporting ...

Sad, really ... leading the horse to water and waiting 'til it wants to drink is all y' can do sometimes ...



I don't watch Olberman or Matthews so I can't speak on them nor Daily kos or Democratic underground either for that matter

But I do understand leading people to knowledge and well you know the rest.


Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight ... that's why the responses mirror their programming directives ... unh-huh ... I believe that ... whatever you say ... I was born yesterday ... tell me more ... I'll believe it ... promise ... just like I believe Olbermann 'n Madcow 'n Franken 'n Gore 'n Salon 'n Slate 'n HuffPo 'n ... well, you know the rest ...


the cyberworld, media, and the balancing act to find the truth

everyone uses the source that 'proves' what they already believe

thats why we have groups like 'truthers' who believe 9/11 conpiracies
and groups like 'birthers' who believe public information conspiracies

and no doubt members of each side probably think the other side is nuts for THEIR beliefs,,lol

its an endless circle,,,

mightymoe's photo
Mon 08/30/10 05:51 AM





Believing Faux News Channel with pickle your brain.

It is very bad for people, they should look away.


Yeah. That Keith Olbermann guy is SO much more knowledgeable and smarter 'n stuff. Then there's that really unbiased Chris Matthews and the 'thrill' he gets up his leg when 'The UN' speaks ... can't ask for more 'objectivity' than that, huh ... ? We should all get our 'news' from DailyKOS and 'Democratic Underground' and then we'd be SO much more 'informed' ... we'd have SO much Kool-Aid® we'd NEVER get thirsty for unbiased reporting ...

Sad, really ... leading the horse to water and waiting 'til it wants to drink is all y' can do sometimes ...



I don't watch Olberman or Matthews so I can't speak on them nor Daily kos or Democratic underground either for that matter

But I do understand leading people to knowledge and well you know the rest.


Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight ... that's why the responses mirror their programming directives ... unh-huh ... I believe that ... whatever you say ... I was born yesterday ... tell me more ... I'll believe it ... promise ... just like I believe Olbermann 'n Madcow 'n Franken 'n Gore 'n Salon 'n Slate 'n HuffPo 'n ... well, you know the rest ...


the cyberworld, media, and the balancing act to find the truth

everyone uses the source that 'proves' what they already believe

thats why we have groups like 'truthers' who believe 9/11 conpiracies
and groups like 'birthers' who believe public information conspiracies

and no doubt members of each side probably think the other side is nuts for THEIR beliefs,,lol

its an endless circle,,,
none of them care about the truth... ratings, thats where its at.