I'm wearing clown pants though.

I have been wondering recently why us men always seem to make the women in the situation the 'victim' We blame everything except for the women,(alcohol), (naivity), (this that or the other) we tend to make excuses and blame everything but the girl. Truth is it's her fault, not the alcohol, not her innoncense, not the guy's fault, it's her fault. It always is, but we constantly make excuses for them. I am guilty of it myself, but truth is there is no excuse.

I made excuses for my ex over and over again, explained to friends why I was with her, yada yada yada, and constantly defended her. But you know if I had the common sense to listen in the first place.... anyways I found out they were right all along. I am more open now to other peoples advices and opinions on my Significant Other, for the most part they are impartial, not always but they are.

Yes I originally came here from a 'broken heart' but it makes you stronger, and time heals.

Uhhhh, dude ... SHE took HIM to a strip club before goin' home with him to bump uglies ... ? And you didn't tell her to hit the effin' road THEN ... ? Nuh-unh ... no sympathy for Part II of this sordid li'l tale ... you screwed up by tolerating it instead of mannin' up and kickin' her sorry asss out or leaving. Amazing how people can rationalize anything away ...

<--------steps out of the room quietly......

hm i just use women as a means for my pleasure n whims now hard to let someone in for me been hurt way too many times

Women r one very intresting being. You have to guard your heart well when you are around them because most of them are very sharp by nature.

I move on pretty quickly. I guess that I've been lucky to not have been screwed over really bad as of yet, but there was a time in my 20's that I actually thought that every woman was a cheater. My guy friends always tried to get together with whatever girlfriend I had at the time. I did'nt think that was very cool, but it sure helps to find out if your girlfriend is a slut.

huh

I was in a bad relationship where I was cheated on. It went on for quite a while. She thought I was stupid and didn't know. All the while I had someone getting pics of her out with these guys that new she was married and had kids. Well I gathered about a years worth of photos and her two dui convictions certainly helped and divorced the b**ch. She thought she had the upper hand and said I would never see my son again. I just laughed and told her whatever makes her feel better. She had no clue I had all this evidence that would bring her down. Come court time everything came out. I loved seeing her jaw drop when all this stuff was revealed. She lost custody of our son and her daughter. Her daughter's dad and I worked together to get the daughter away from her. After all was said and done and she was losing her mind I rubbed salt in her wounds. I waited about 6 months and dropped a bombshell after she dropped my son off from one of her short visits with him. While she was out thinking she was getting me I was doing the girls and wives of the guys she was with in our bed. Now I am not the cheating type and that was the first time I ever cheated on someone but it felt good to get that one. Not that it was right of me to do that but hey if she's having fun I might as well have it too!!

Fellows, come on. If she cheats on you once... She'll do it again, and again, and again... A relationship like that, well, it just ain't a relationship. PERIOD.

One more thing: men get as far, as women allows. Not their fault???

Please don't feel bad for the kids for they are doing excellent. The daughter now lives with her dad. My son is with me. She has substance abuse problems and mental problems. Neither of the kids need to be around her until she gets better if that ever happens. She was no kind of mother to either of the kids. I have focused on my job and my son ever since all this garbage took place. I have not dated at all for my attention needed to be with my son. I am a very loving father and my world revolves around my son. To say you feel sorry for kids that have very loving fathers and are better off where they are now is very disturbing. I really hope you are not like the State of Ohio Dept of Child and Family Services who will give any a**hole mother custody of the kids just because she is the mother. There are bad mothers out there. There are also great fathers out there who don't get to see their kids because of the a**hole moms. I know of someone who lost custody of his son to the ex-wife. He fought and fought the state to get his son back because the mother was unfit. The state only realized she was unfit when she was driving drunk with the kid in the car and killed him in a wreck.
Further more, yes I did cheat. It was retaliation to the situation. I admitted my wrongdoing. What I did was not right at all. I would never cheat on someone who was faithful to me.

Fearand Loathing

Men don't have feelings! Have you ever seen a John Wayne film with him crying in the psych office? No! Why?! Because men build things, then we destroy things to build more things!


dconexion

Why do I get the feeling you don't really believe that ?


And BTW, you forgot to say we build and destroy things for the love of women...

here...have some MIDOL for your pain..or,
maybe couple of cotex's to stop your bloody nose

No, I said we build and destroy things to create more things.

Thanks for lightening up yet another generalized topic.

To the OP: Men are just as capable of the crap you wrote about too.

People play the victim all the time if we let them.

Gain some perspective and self respect; don't tolerate crap from anyone; man, woman or child.

Or, as Gossip said, and I agree, pull up the grown-up pants and move on. Wine gets better with age but WHINE doesn’t.

i couldnt resist it.....i tried to but....

A girl just broke up with me, we had been dating for 9 months. I got laid off back in November from an excellent job. She says she got tired of me not having a good job, she doesn't like how I don't take the little jobs... I've been trying persistently to get a great job, I've got a bachelors degree in game design, she doesn't understand that I need to have a demo reel to show employers. I can't waste time on mediocore jobs when that reel is the key for me getting hired at a gaming studio. Who's in the wrong here?