amen!

any resources or facts to back that up?

yes, if they were CAUGHT shoplifting, that should be a referral to police,,,

Im an optimist generally and believe most people are decent , whatever profession they choose,,,

but I just am opposed to giving TOO MUCH authority to anyone in particular,,,,,and when cops have an OPEN ended mandate to catch illegal immigrants , IM kind of nervous of how far aomw will go to do it under the legal protection of that law

Firstly about law enforcement. Frank Serpico said it best when he said "10% of cops are honest. Then there is the 20% that are completely dishonest with the remaining 70% wanting to be more honest than they are." the "blue wall" does not allow for cops to investigate cops and civilian oversight is toothless. I also have a friend who is a PI who quit the force because the corruption is top to bottom.

About my post about high school economics, firstly I was cranky yesterday when I posted so forgive me for being blunt and confrontational.

Take here in Canada, conservative gov'ts like to send out money in the mail as a tax cut which has very short term effects and the average voter spends it, which is good but has no real effect other than to buy votes.

The reason I mentioned the past 4 administrations was they believed more in tax cuts for the rich which they do not spend to stimulate the economy or hire new workers. Supply side or trickle down economics does not work, large business are still not hiring and use lay-offs too often to have short term financial gain, pleasing their investors.

But invest in the SME's (small and medium sized enterprises) is a great thing. SME's create more jobs and hire more people than big business and this is true in all industrialized nations. SME's will spend the money on growth and keep jobs in their local economies which has direct impacts. SME's do not outsource to foreign countries. Invest in SME's today and the results will be felt within 5 years. Invest in restructuring the railroad infrastructure would bring immediate effects with 3 to 5 years, possibly less.

One final note, I am a very big supporter of smarter taxation. Lower income tax and use tax shifting policies on the things we buy or consume. Low taxes on the products and services that have positive health effects and new innovation. (low taxes on renewable energy, health foods, etc.) Tax high the things that are unhealthy (gas, junk food, etc). This puts the power in the hands of people to make the lifestyle choices that fit them best. The tax levels can be raised or lowered depending on spending habits, making it revenue neutral in relation to the lower income tax. IF you must use a car for business, deductions can be implemented come tax time.

I got rid of my car three years ago, moved to an apartment on a major bus route and bike almost all year round. Fortunate for me since I can do this since because I live in an area that has a decent transit system. My health and wallet have seen immediate improvements. I am also part of a car sharing network like Zipcar, which I use maybe 4-6 times per year.

Democrats and Republicans are two faces of the same coin. Don't trust either of them as they prefer the "too big to fail" concept instead of the SME's. I now need to back and read why the senate is not supporting the small business plan which was recently tabled.

Please don't do that, for two reasons. The first is we need to stand united in 2012 to get Obama out of office. Anyone would be better then him. Second, thousands of American's have died for us to have that most important and basic right, no matter who you vote for it is still worth voting. There are people across the world that would give andything to live in a country where there are free, open and for the most part honest elections. Hell just look at Iran, the Supreme Ruler stages the outcome of that election. Look at Cuba or N. Korea just to name a few.

Not every shoplifter got reffered. You midread what I said. Everyone I caught that didn't have id on them got reffered. We didn't refer everyone there were guidelines. If it was over $20, liquor, if they didn't have id, if we caught them in any kind of lie, if they faught or if we have caught them before were the guidelines to refer to the police.

Under federal law, local police are suppose to ID all people that get arrested, if they are not legal they are suppose to be held and referred to the ICE/INS for deportation.

That is what the local authorities were suppose to be doing.

Local authorities have been failing at this.

They release them if they suspect they are illegal because they do not want to do the work it takes to do the right thing.

This has been going on for a long time.

Im not misreading, my point was these people were already SUSPECT of breaking a law,, it isnt against the law to be a passenger in a car or to be walking down the street so there would not be sufficient grounds to REQUIRE a physical id from anyone doing so, a name and social can be just as easily verified

not everyone is as honest as you... cops have been lied to before, and will be lied to again.

true , and IF non compliant or lying, it would be grounds for further investigation

NO, it's a vote for someone who currently is outside of a broken system. Only a fool thinks voting third party is a vote for the party in power. It's a voice of dissent. It's a show of disapporval. It's a step in the right direction.

Besides, I live in KANSAS. Any vote that isn't Republican, doesn't really count. We haven't voted Democrat here since, well, never. Even so, our Democrats are Republicans in sheeps clothing.

If I wanted to vote for Obama, I'd being supporting the Democrat. This is politics, not rocket science.