Topic: values anyone?
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Tue 07/06/10 07:00 PM
well i drink beer an smoke cigarette,s but i have morrales. is that rong ?:wink:

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Tue 07/06/10 07:01 PM




ive done my share of bads an goods but i dont believe erb makes people bad it may complicate life because of work but it is much better than the medicines the doctors give people these days.

I have argued this till i am blue in the face.. weather or not its bad or good for you is not even a question.. its ILLEGAL..


Ah but SHOULD it be? I for one contend it SHOULDN'T. And don't forget, medicinal marijuana is legal in some states.

Regardless of that, I honestly could care less if they say it's illegal or not. If I want to grow it, or want to use (though I never have to this point in my life), I will because it's MY CHOICE and MY BUSINESS. It's not the state's business, they can go burn for all I care with laws such as this one.

We are allowing them WAYYYYYYY too much power. One day we're gonna wake up and wonder where all our freedoms went, and you know what the answer is gonna be? YOU let them take them!

There's a quote from Gerald Ford that applies here, and it goes thusly:

"A government that has the ability to give you everything you need, also has the ability to take it away".

Think about that.


Good for you for standing your ground, but i have too much to lose to fight the law on pot..


I can understand the concerns, but I find it kind of sad we have to actually fear our own government. It shouldn't be that way you know?

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Tue 07/06/10 07:05 PM
Ok, I do not feel like I am better than one who does do the sex, drugs and rock and roll thing. That is there choice as I have made mine. I have no problem others lifestyles as long as they are respectful of my choice’s, which is most of the time. If they do give me a hard time I just feel extremely uncomfortable, try to hide, and then run away. I just do not like feeling like a tube of toothpaste being squeezed. Yes I also go to bars on every weekend to do Karaoke. I have a blast from the rush I get when I sing in front of a receptive audience.

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Tue 07/06/10 07:05 PM
so true alot of people use things for medicine not for party things are ment to be used right not abused .I always believe the way you treat others although different from you is the most important forget the difference but remember what they are for what an how they do people in life an how they earn there living ive worked hard all my life an dont screw people over .been the same job for 10 yrs with a strict attendance .i vote an have lived in the same house for 8 yrs. the only ones i ever pushed aside were the ones who just couldnt let it go an preached constantly at me. i loved them but different life. was an old song about the only person in life you can truly make happy is yourself . thanks love america for our freedom an the rights we have.

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Tue 07/06/10 07:06 PM

I have noticed that i am alone because i have morals and values that other ppl have lost over the years. For example, i dont drink, or smoke pot, or do drugs of any kind, and i expect that of anyone i bring into my life (and my daughters life as well). Is anyone else facing this issue?


I have never done an illegal drug in my life, not even smoked pot. I also don't smoke and I don't drink. I dont judge those who smoke or drink, it's just my thing.

I also plan on waiting until I am in a very serious relationship before I have sex again.

I think it's great that you have good morals and it set's a good example for your daughter.

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Tue 07/06/10 07:07 PM

well i drink beer an smoke cigarette,s but i have morrales. is that rong ?:wink:

I have nothing against smoking cigarettes, and if you want to drink beer then drink it.. all i am saying is that i cant date anyone who does those things

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Tue 07/06/10 07:07 PM

I know what you mean. Having a clean body, mind, and life are normal things to want and strive for.


And you look very healthy and thank you for serving our country! I tried to email you thanking you but you put a restriction of not interested an anyone over 150 miles so it wont let anyone further then that distance email you, you should chage that :)

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Tue 07/06/10 07:14 PM


well i drink beer an smoke cigarette,s but i have morrales. is that rong ?:wink:

I have nothing against smoking cigarettes, and if you want to drink beer then drink it.. all i am saying is that i cant date anyone who does those things


Not a thing wrong with that. Stand up for what you feel is right. I can respect that. Everybody has there thing.....smokin

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Tue 07/06/10 07:17 PM
Edited by sweet_pea0623 on Tue 07/06/10 07:17 PM


I have noticed that i am alone because i have morals and values that other ppl have lost over the years. For example, i dont drink, or smoke pot, or do drugs of any kind, and i expect that of anyone i bring into my life (and my daughters life as well). Is anyone else facing this issue?


I have never done an illegal drug in my life, not even smoked pot. I also don't smoke and I don't drink. I dont judge those who smoke or drink, it's just my thing.

I also plan on waiting until I am in a very serious relationship before I have sex again.

I think it's great that you have good morals and it set's a good example for your daughter.


Thank you
It gets very confusing when trying to teach my daughter whats "right and wrong" without it seeming like i am "judging" others. I could care less what other ppl do.. it just limits who i let into our lives. And if i didnt judge drugs and alcohol as bad, i wouldnt find the need to keep them away from us. I really hate how negative "judge or judging" comes across.. weather we like it or not, we judge ppl on there lifestyle, personality, appearance, finacial gain, intelligence and everything else everyday.. if not.. we would all be paired off simply coz of the male to female ratio in our area.. but it does matter to us.. we do have certain likes and dislikes..

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Tue 07/06/10 07:18 PM
I can't be with someone who drinks everyday. I drink...usually 3 or 4 times a month. Sometimes more, sometimes less. Sometimes I go months without alcohol.

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Tue 07/06/10 07:26 PM
I smoke...cigs..but I dont think that makes me without morals. On the contrary, I wish I could find a woman that was still old fashioned in the sense that they had morals and character. It seems this world has changed so much, that society accepts drugs and alchoholics as the norm. No I am not drug friendly and social drinking is fine. I also do not put people down though for thier choices. This is what all thses soldiers have fought to protect. Although I may not agree with certain decisions people make it doesnt necessarily mean I will condemn them for it. Just simply means I will keep looking

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Tue 07/06/10 07:52 PM





I don't know your situation, so I can't comment on that, but most of the people I used to know, the ones I mentioned above -- the ones who killed themselves with alcohol -- said "I will never end up like [insert name of current or deceased alcoholic here]."

The very assertion alone speaks volumes....







Pedestal


If "pedestal" means I have no desire to get involved with anyone who is suicidal and self-destructive, then we're on the same page.

I just don't see the point in being with someone who values their own health so little that they don't care what they do to themselves. Granted, that's my own assessment, and my own personal preference, but I think the "pedestal" remark is misplaced and entirely out of line here. Is it being on a pedestal to want a healthy partner?


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Tue 07/06/10 08:10 PM






I don't know your situation, so I can't comment on that, but most of the people I used to know, the ones I mentioned above -- the ones who killed themselves with alcohol -- said "I will never end up like [insert name of current or deceased alcoholic here]."

The very assertion alone speaks volumes....







Pedestal


If "pedestal" means I have no desire to get involved with anyone who is suicidal and self-destructive, then we're on the same page.

I just don't see the point in being with someone who values their own health so little that they don't care what they do to themselves. Granted, that's my own assessment, and my own personal preference, but I think the "pedestal" remark is misplaced and entirely out of line here. Is it being on a pedestal to want a healthy partner?




if thats what it means, then i am guilty of being on a pedestal too

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Tue 07/06/10 08:54 PM




I don't know your situation, so I can't comment on that, but most of the people I used to know, the ones I mentioned above -- the ones who killed themselves with alcohol -- said "I will never end up like [insert name of current or deceased alcoholic here]."

The very assertion alone speaks volumes....



Pedestal


If "pedestal" means I have no desire to get involved with anyone who is suicidal and self-destructive, then we're on the same page.

I just don't see the point in being with someone who values their own health so little that they don't care what they do to themselves. Granted, that's my own assessment, and my own personal preference, but I think the "pedestal" remark is misplaced and entirely out of line here. Is it being on a pedestal to want a healthy partner?




I'm referring to the way you responded to me like you're enlightened on the subject when I had stated that I've been through the same situation. Just because I chose a different path doesn't make me less educated or aware of the subject.

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Tue 07/06/10 09:01 PM

I feel sorry for people who don't drink.... boringggggggggggg


I don't drink (a glass of wine now and then) and I'm not boring...
not in the least, I'm a pretty darn good time actually winking

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Tue 07/06/10 09:03 PM
"Values' are very subjective. Each of us gets to set our own standard of values...same as we all get to choose our own morals.

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Tue 07/06/10 09:08 PM





I don't know your situation, so I can't comment on that, but most of the people I used to know, the ones I mentioned above -- the ones who killed themselves with alcohol -- said "I will never end up like [insert name of current or deceased alcoholic here]."

The very assertion alone speaks volumes....



Pedestal


If "pedestal" means I have no desire to get involved with anyone who is suicidal and self-destructive, then we're on the same page.

I just don't see the point in being with someone who values their own health so little that they don't care what they do to themselves. Granted, that's my own assessment, and my own personal preference, but I think the "pedestal" remark is misplaced and entirely out of line here. Is it being on a pedestal to want a healthy partner?




I'm referring to the way you responded to me like you're enlightened on the subject when I had stated that I've been through the same situation. Just because I chose a different path doesn't make me less educated or aware of the subject.


And, of course, I never said any of that. I said my experience was different. If you choose to personalize it, that's your decision, but I wrote what I wrote in the context of one individual's personal experience.

Believe me, this happens a lot. I've noticed that, any time I indicate I'm not interested in dealing with people because of certain habits, lifestyles, etc., I'm automatically attacked by people who fall into those categories as if I had somehow specifically targeted them as horrible people individually. Of course, I don't keep a scorecard, so I don't generally know, off the top of my head, who drinks, who has kids, who does this or that or whatever. For the most part, I just automatically assume that everyone drinks and/or everyone has kids, because that's also been my experience.

So, when I just say "I'm not interested in ______" people jump all over me for having a preference that they don't agree with.

And I'm OK with that. Knowledge is a good thing -- it helps to know who's who....!!

But please don't be offended over the fact that I have preferences and opinions, and I don't hesitate to express them. They are NOT directed at you -- they're just expressions of my own individual personal policies, based on years and years of experience.



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Tue 07/06/10 09:14 PM

Lex, I get it that you're very clever with your words for a reason but I found your comment to be condescending whether it was meant for me or not.

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Tue 07/06/10 09:21 PM


Lex, I get it that you're very clever with your words for a reason but I found your comment to be condescending whether it was meant for me or not.


You both are debating the same point. Just saying........smokin

DrRob's photo
Tue 07/06/10 09:30 PM

I smoke...cigs..but I dont think that makes me without morals. On the contrary, I wish I could find a woman that was still old fashioned in the sense that they had morals and character. It seems this world has changed so much, that society accepts drugs and alchoholics as the norm. No I am not drug friendly and social drinking is fine. I also do not put people down though for thier choices. This is what all these soldiers have fought to protect. Although I may not agree with certain decisions people make it doesnt necessarily mean I will condemn them for it. Just simply means I will keep looking


not only did i like your comment best,but i completely agree.


also,Lex,id like my blue stegosaurus now...i dont drink either....bigsmile