I know exactly what you mean, I find it hard to connect with some people because I'm so different from them or try to be, and my views are so different. It's hard to get close to some people in a relationship sense, when they are so far different from you. It gets lonesome sometimes, but can't give up!

When are we going out to have a drink??

social drinking and alcoholism are different. I am a social drinker. I actually haven't had a beer in over a year. But sometimes a nice cold beer is great on a hot day.

I am a responsible drinker. I don't drink and drive and I can own up to my responsibility that comes with being able to drink.

My son is 19. He knows that if he decides to have a drink, that he is responsible. If he is still underage....that is illegal. If he drives while drunk....that is illegal.

I know the what comes with drinking and smoking. I accept that responsibility and I don't blame commercials or anything like that. I decide my own actions.

Just because we teach our kids one thing, doesn't mean they will continue it.

Some people have other devices or addictions....food, shopping, etc. Values/morals are subjective. It is all about preferences. If someone doesn't like something....that is their right to move on to the next one

I feel this one big time......

Well you are certainly right to have that criterea. Unfortunately, almost everybody either drinks some or smokes some. Or both. Good luck......

Yea, from what i have found, most everyone drinks or does drugs.. I dont even mind cigarettes.. just not pot.. but still.. thats asking too much of most ppl. I hope i meet someone and that will never be an issue, and we can argue over normal things. like who gets the remote, or what to have for dinner.. lol

I think the underage thing is stupid, there is something to be said for personal responsibility, especially when you are over a certain age, like say maybe 16 or so? And yeah I know the law is the law, but I think the law is a bunch of crap sometimes, and more about controlling the people then anything.

That being said, I rarely drink and don't see the purpose in getting drunk and all of that, but I do feel we should have more freedom to make the choice for ourselves one way or the other.

And for the very last time I will say PEDESTAL .... stop preachin folks, people who drink and smoke are not the devil as much as you'd like to think they are....

Peace out thread.

don't feel sorry for me baby, I am not missing out on any fun, the only difference that I remember it in the morning, the ones were drunk don't.

This really bothers me.. if we are speaking about anyone specifically.. its NOT YOU.. most of us are speaking about John Q public.. or possibly even someone in our own circle of friends/family.. if anything we are saying is hitting some nerves with you, then maybe you need to look at yourself and step up to the plate, instead of ridiculing us for doin what we think is right. And if you think its easy Not drinking or Not doin drugs.. then i dare you to try it.. coz you will find out who you real friends are, and you will find that you are alone alot, and in that time of being alone, you will get to know the REAL YOU..

ha ha ha ha.... thats exactly right

Never been that drunk. Have had a few mornings where I was thinking I can't believe I did that last night........

I quit smoking 6 months ago and i havent smoked pot in a few years. I do occassionally drink when my kids are gone to their dad's. I love my kids dearly and they know that. They get discipline when needed, and discipline and rules is what kids really need. I'm a good mom and i don't judge others. I won't allow pot around my kids and if someone wants to smoke it..they can go outside or to their car..no biggie to me. But everyone has different outlooks and wants different things. To each their own!

I have had those nights, sure was fun!!!

Absolutely. Life is to short. Live like ya gotta live......

ive done my share of bads an goods but i dont believe erb makes people bad it may complicate life because of work but it is much better than the medicines the doctors give people these days.

SEE,,,,,THIS IS,,,,,,,exactly the THING in which YOU and I SEE and FEEL and LIVE....
See,,IF WE GET HIGH or DRINK,,we're considered OK,,or COOL,,
NO PROBLEMS,,,BUT,,,if We SHOULD REFLECT THAT they might have an issue with one,,,,,WE THEN ARE PUT DOWN OR PUSHED ASIDE..as NON-COOL PEEPS.....THIS WORLD DEVIDES,,,,all WE ever need to do is RESPECT EACH OTHERS OPINIONS AND WAYS...
I KNOW YOU were not putting those TYPE people DOWN,,,YOUR just making a statement of its hard to fit in with others because THEY like to party and YOU don't!
But THIS IS WHERE ANY MENTION OF NOT LIKING,,,goes to...
FOLKS,,,,PARTY if YOU LIKE,,,and DON'T IF YOU DON"T WANT TO..
But the OP is TRYING TO FIGURE OUT "HOW" TO DATE W?O FINDING THOSE ISSUES IN SOMEONE????????????????????????????

THERE,,,maybe THAT MIGHT get them to understand your question here...

I have argued this till i am blue in the face.. weather or not its bad or good for you is not even a question.. its ILLEGAL.. and having it around a child, puts that child at risk of being yanked from the home and into the hands of social services.. and thats not a risk i am willing to take. As far as the meds a doc gives ya.. well thats up to you to take them or not, but as soon as you abuse them, they become a "drug" and not a "medicine".. and there fore the "ILLEGAL" problem comes into play again.

Ah but SHOULD it be? I for one contend it SHOULDN'T. And don't forget, medicinal marijuana is legal in some states.

Regardless of that, I honestly could care less if they say it's illegal or not. If I want to grow it, or want to use (though I never have to this point in my life), I will because it's MY CHOICE and MY BUSINESS. It's not the state's business, they can go burn for all I care with laws such as this one.

We are allowing them WAYYYYYYY too much power. One day we're gonna wake up and wonder where all our freedoms went, and you know what the answer is gonna be? YOU let them take them!

There's a quote from Gerald Ford that applies here, and it goes thusly:

"A government that has the ability to give you everything you need, also has the ability to take it away".

Think about that.

Good for you for standing your ground, but i have too much to lose to fight the law on pot..
and as far as medical marijuana, thats just what it is.. MEDICAL.. and its prescribed and used as medicine.. not as a recreational thing